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Should Iceland Join The EU? YES - 27.3% ; NO - 57.6%
There was one, just one, country that escaped the bankster Mutually Assured Destruction singularity force field in 2009 and after destroying the financial overhang and starting from scratch, has become a paragon of growth in the New Global Depressionary Normal. Iceland (profiled most recently here). As such, what Iceland says is signal, and what the legacy masters of the abovementioned New Normal repeat day after day, is recurring noise. Here is the signal: when Icelanders were asked if they should join the EU, this is what they responded:
- YES - 27.3%
- NO - 57.6%
Q.E.D.
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.....and it's gone.
Just like with the elections, I was forced to 'write in' a candidate because HELL NO wasn't on the ballot...
Apparently there's 27% who breathed in a bit too much ash from eyjafjallajökull
What about the 15.1% who (I guess) voted maybe/maybe not/sorry, too busy texting/what day is it/which one is 'the voice'?
<Cus 27.3% and 57.6% don't add up.>
Maybe they were too busy laughing at the question to answer? That would be my response.
I bet they voted by hand and did not use touch screen voting.
Maybe they used US voting machines provided by a Soros subsidiary. The NO votes became YES for 27%..... just like what happend on Nov 6.
Liberals. They are always around 30% of any given population.
fuck me up the ass hard twice, shame on me.
...or flips over. - Hank Johnson
The E.U. would be smart to join Iceland, not the other way around.
What are the 27.3% thinking!?
Same thing the 47% are thinking.
i think in Iceland the 47% is really the 27%. put another way, it's still disconcerting: 1 out of every 2 want to be in the Euro???¿¿??? maybe they have like a Nokia ObamaPhone equivalent they're jonzing for.....
27% of the folks in Iceland are foaming-at-the-mouth globalists whose ideological slavery blinds them to the obvious realities of the world around them.
Good for Iceland for having such a small number of the fools.
watch Max Keiser discussing capital controls and the artificial world with Icelandic Krona being a trapped currency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5vowdygIPU&feature=player_embedded
The Icelandic situation may be a result of neo liberal investment ideology where the goverment cannot spend money into existence to increase internal productive capacity.
Indeed the only reason why you should get into external debt is to increase internal productive capacity , the Irish (banks) got into external debt to give non productive assets (houses) to people so that they could earn a yield from external real capital rundown (North sea oil mainly)
They have cheap electricity in Iceland
Why not build a tram to link the burbs of Reykjavik ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Reykjavík
Its a no brainer – they spend so much of their income on diesel for their 4 * 4s just to go to the shop rather then their second home out in the icelandic wilderness.
They should follow Bergens example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KM9csmpYtA
Smart people
These figures are muddled... So are the Icelandic people in favour or not of joining the EU?
Edit: Figures are consistant now!
You fucked the bankers once my Icelandic friends.
Dont let the scum have another go for fucks sake. Tell them to fuck off, and then burn them, after hanging and gutting them like.
How about jailing them. http://www.greenewave.com/other-countries-bailout-bankers-iceland-jails-...
Better, throw them in the Eyjafjallajökull
Please no. Last trip to Iceland we chipped some glacier ice from there and used it in toasts of Hennesy. I would not want that ice polluted with corpses.
No doubleguns,
Gutting then burning is fine with me, saves money fron the state, see?
Ask not, what we can do for Iceland, but what Iceland can do for us.
They've done quite a bit, it's up to us now to do more than watch
Instead, I read this WSJ headline today (might as well repeat it every fortnight)
"The SEC doesn't intend to charge any individuals in its planned enforcement action against JP Morgan for the allegedly fraudulent sale of mortgage bonds, though the bank will pay a significant fine."
Allegedly? Normally you do not enforce or pay a significant fine for nothing more than an allegation. That said, I wonder what percentage of this scheme's profit is relative to their "punishment?"
I'm so tired of this shit
Viva Iceland!
It's really surprising how many said yes, considering Icelands experience
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The 27% comes from their Irish / Scottish stock of females that they brought over during the settlement phase.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrmcxa1yBec
The Faroe islands is a interesting island experiment.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroe_Islands
As explicitly asserted by both Rome treaties, the Faroe Islands are not part of the European Union. Moreover, a protocol to the treaty of accession of Denmark to the European Communities stipulates that Danish nationals residing in the Faroe Islands are not to be considered as Danish nationals within the meaning of the treaties. Hence, Danish people living in the Faroes are notcitizens of the European Union (although other EU nationals living there remain EU citizens). The Faroes are not covered by the Schengen free movement agreement, but there are no border checks when travelling between the Faroes and any Schengen country. (The Faroes have been part of the Nordic Passport Union since 1966, and since 2001 there have been no border checks between the Nordic countries and the rest of the Schengen area as part of the Schengen agreement.)[7]
I think we allow New England, including NYC, to join the EU. California can join ASEAN and go begging China for bailout money.
America's problem solved.
I'm sure the EU would love the New England socialists . . . . but the ASEAN wouldn't touch Kalifornia with a 10 foot pole (unless all the Kalifornia idiots were shipped to communes in New England). There, problem solved again!
On the other conspiratorial hand mind.
How many of our yiddish friends occupy more than their fair share of power over 300,000 people?
Can anyone riddle me this? This smells of either the kikes or the politicians. Anyway, tell them to fuck off Iceland, and for fucks sake, dont end up like us. Burn the fuckers if need be.
Oh dear........
I do believe I may have upset someone on this here thread. I dont know but it may be a closet hebe?
Ring a bell anyone???
Thats 85%, what do the other 15% want to do?
Drink vodka?
So ~ 27 out of every 100 Icelanders are jew bankers... Whocoodanode?
My short list of countries to move to when it gets too bad here just grew by one.
Wasn't sure the bankers would let Iceland get away with throwing them the middle finger, but it looks like they did. No big whoop. World didn't end for them. They aren't shut out of international credit markets, either.
Am I about to say that we should take inspiration from Iceland? Well, let's not go too far here. That's just crazy talk.
Dont worry, the EU will just have the ICelanders vote on joining the EU over and over till they get it 'right'.
LOL, I love Vikings.
The 27.3%,,,,well.....I blame Diebold.
Repeat,repeat, until you get the answer you want.
SOP in the EU.
Sounds a bit like Ireland, was Lisbon rejected 2 or 3 times before being crammed down their throats?
You won't approve but in the end, the only salvation for human kind is the removal of all barriers and all nationalistic competition. The planet is too small for vested interests all seeking the high ground at someone elses expense. This is fact, the idea of devaluations, superior religions, politic, economies etc is a doomed philosophy
Yes, the 99% Debt slaves must be ruled by the 1% Elite Banker Central Planners.
Insightful and stimulating post. Must read again.
The people of the nations already in the European Union don't get a referendum on staying in or leaving, that would just be silly.
Yeah, join the EU so the austerity police can take over your economy.
I think Iceland should definitelly join EU, borrow as much money from the ECB, IMF and WTO as possible, and then refuse to pay back. They are the only ones with the balls to pull it off.
That´s actually a pretty good result for the EU after 4 years of a ongoing financial crisis in Europe. I guess in a few years time the Icelanders will join the EU/ the Euro.
One can only hope that was a rhetorical question.....you had me for a second there! lol...
Fully 27.3% of Iceland is traitorous subhuman parasitic filth unfit to breathe the same air as free people. They should be deported to a more agreeable clime and likeminded host population ... Greece.
Mmm.... maybe too peripheral and small.
Apropos of little, Ireland might be doing some of the right things in re the banks.
They've also sacked up to talk about... talking about... getting an EU ban on products made in the West Bank {by the settlers}.
You want to see some real, honest to goodness racist hate - check out the comments section in any related story in the Jerusalem Post or indeed most Israeli papers.
Honestly, opened my eyes - here, a country with a history of being colonized and ethnically cleansed {from Ulster} is suggesting products Israelis make in occupied lands should be boycotted, and many Israelis immediately cry that only "antisemitism" is at work.
Where we are is Orwelltown - noting Israeli/Jewish violence, illegality and hate only means... wait for it... you're an 'antisemite.'
But I think it may be that the most racist folks on earth are the Israelis. Maybe that's unsurprising given the whole 'God says we're special' thing...
'You want to see some real, honest to goodness racist hate - check out the comments section in any related story in the Jerusalem Post or indeed most Israeli papers.'
There's a special strain of anti-U.S. contempt in those Israeli comment threads, for obvious reasons.
Living in a rich OECD country, Israelis know it's shameful to cadge $3 billion a year in unmerited U.S. charity. But still they grub those dirty dollars, whilst cursing their unwilling, co-opted benefactors.
The other 15% don't know what they want.
I'll be refreshing Krugmanbearpig's blog today, awaiting his missive in re how 27.3% of Icelanders are poo poo heads and Republicans.
The future is debt repudiation, but in the context of a clever new model where only the central banks can fractionally create. A whole new kind of slavery.
And you can bet most people won't object. They'll be too worried about Lloyd Blankfein turning their implanted chip off.
Why, so Germany can get the Greeks to mooch off someone else?
The EMU zone and the EU zone. EMU zone is in crisis.
The OSTRICH zone and the EU zone. OSTRICH zone is in crisis.
Why the crisis? Why, 'US Citizenism' of course!
If it is bad, it comes from 'US Citizenism'.
Signed: AnAnnoyingUS
Ah, ah, the EMU zone indeedings much the crisis have makings. EMUs being now huntered to the extiction nearly due to high demandings of Chinese citizenism delicacy EMU beak soup. EMU beak soup valued the highly by Chinese citizenism citizens for making growth the 50 percent length Chinese citizenism penis to remarkable 3cm amazingly.
Chinese Citizenism tried making muchly exploitation of MOA zone in New Zealand five hundred years ago today thanks to Chinese counterfeit magical lightning-powered time-traveling flying rickshaw of Benjamin Franklin inventionism of US 'american' fabled past, but according of inferiorness of slave-labor fabricationalism, device transported they to Pangeia of 67,540,412 BC.
But hey, dinosaur gall bladders even better than moa gall bladders, happy makings of Chinese Citizenism citizen penis expansionalism to giant 5 cm .... and the rest is history.
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But hey, dinosaur gall bladders even better than moa gall bladders, happy makings of Chinese Citizenism citizen penis expansionalism to giant 5 cm .... and the rest is history.
5 cm?! Such Hantastic growth defies belief! Must be part of fabled past, since such size would drain voluminous amount of blood from Chinese citizenism citizen brain.
The tyranny of the majority.
/sarc
Respect from Croatia!!!
No EU!!!
and of course gold bitchez!!!
How many more times will they have to vote before the assoles in Europe get the"right" result.
A cute 12 year old Canadian girl Victoria Grant explains the core of economic problems in 6 minutes the way a Nobel prize economist could get
Listen up, dipshits.
Does Iceland currently have a fiat currency? Yes.
is it pegged? Yes, to the CAD.
What is the CAD? The Canadian Dollar is the US Dollar.
Ergo, Bernanke's inflation is Iceland's inflation.
They have escaped NOTHING. They are still NECK DEEP.
It's not pegged to the CAD.
I just double checked on the BBG "PEG" screen. Right you are. I was wrong. Sorry.
Freedom, bitchez!
Look out Iceland, the power mad incompetent's at the EU are on their way bearing gifts just as soon as they have suckered Turkey. You,re next in line only because Turkey has more Gold than you.
Give them a couple of more generations and the 27% can become the majority. Like here. Anyone doubt if the Democratic Party in the US supported joining the EU, or any other such nonsense, as a way to increase welfare funding that it would fail today? A generation ago, no chance.
Oh but they can alway opt out. Not so many do that though.
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Oh but they can alway opt out. Not so many do that though.
Yes, sure, and occupied Tibetans can always make Chinese citizenism citizen's arrest instead of burning themselves in protest.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/four-tibetans-self-immolate-i...
http://news.yahoo.com/china-says-18-old-tibetan-self-immolates-033516046...
Made you laugh.
Who cares about Iceland??
300k people on a lost, tiny and unfriendly island that went bankrupt withouth the need of any outside assistance in 2008?!......
Only 30% of EU citizens trusts the EU. And they are delusional.
27.3% were bankers
Dear Iceland,
I am from Goldman Sachs and i am here to help
Lloyd
An Icelandic poll taken during this past year was overwellmingly in favour of joining Canada monetarily.
The Icelandic carry trade bought them some time but they are still in the same mess when it comes to their currency.
At least their roadsides are unmolested.
Now, now. Are you saying that there's something wrong with the last election ?
Do you mean to say that there was outright fraud and manipulation?
Are you asserting that the Marxists won, not by fairness but by cheating on a massive scale?
Are you insinuating that there is a system and organization in place, the sole purpose of which is those results?
Guess what? You're right!!!! So now what?
Sun doesn't get to their heads like the people of southern latitudes. LA is really suffering this year as I'm sure anyone that follows the elections knows.
This also demonstrates that no matter what the issue, you can count on at least a quarter of your population to be complete morons.
I would not say that they are morons. In Iceland loans, like mortage loans for example are indexed to inflation but wages are not, so everytime there is a crisis those people get considerably poorer.
In the last crash inflation went over 20%. If Iceland was in the EU this problem would disapear.
Some EU laws Iceland has adopted are better for the general public than the previous Icelandic ones.
The problem with joining the EU is that it opens up the country to foreign influences of many sorts.
There is a great interest in geothermal energy, especially in exporting power to Scotland from Iceland by a sub sea cable. The idea is to connect Iceland to the European power grid.
The current energy production in Iceland is 17 TWh, that is hydro power and geothermal together.
The plan seems to be to increase production to 90 TWh, the entire increase would have to be geothermal and the wast majority would have to be deep drilling holes. A standard geothermal well generates ca 5 mw but a deep drilling well can produce up to 50 mw, but the reason Icelanders have only extracted enegry from the surface and not by deep drilling is that its dangerous and unstable.
You can see this advocated in many places, for example McKinsey wrote a report on Iceland where this idea is mentioned.
http://www.mckinsey.com/locations/Copenhagen/our_work/How_We_Work/~/medi...
Iceland is a interesting place in many ways, she rose from the sea 20 mil years ago when a mantle plume who is 140 km wide and at least 600 km deep hit the fault line where the north American plate and the EurAsian plate meet. The middle of the plume is now under a volcano called Bardarbunga, who is under Vatnajokull glacier ice cap.
This is why no place on earth is as volcanically active as Iceland is. Iceland is also the only place in the world where the mid Atlantic ridge is above the sea surface.
There was a deep drilling experiment in a volcano called Hengill, close to Reykjavik. The idea is to drill down to ca 5 km, really close to the magma chamber of a active volcano, then pump down liquid under intense pressure to fracture the borhole, this way they get superheated steam to power the turbines.
The problems with this is that you get alot of toxic material up with the steam, this needs to be pumped down again to a depth of at least 800 meters.
With the fracking and pumping came earthquake swarms with quakes up to M 4. Shortly after this begun the quake swarms developed a life of their own, coming when no activity was taking place, then the people living in the area shut this operation down.
The area that is to be exploited next is in the north east. A volcano called Theistareykir, Krafla and Bjarnarflag.
There were some holes drilled in Krafla and Bjarnarflag in 1980, just ordinary holes, but this caused earhquake swarms and one of the quakes split a borhole at bjarnarflag in half, at the same time a mud geyser erupted, folowed by a fissure eruption that went on for 9 years. This was a small eruption on a Icelandic scale.
http://www.mbl.is/myndasafn/ljosmyndari-526/emilia-bjorg-bjornsdottir/my...
When the smallest of 3 fissures in the so called dead zone, between Vatnajokull glacier and Myrdalsjokull glacier erupted last time, the fauntains of lava were from 800 to 1200 meters tall. That fissure is called Laki and belongs to Grimsvotn volcano.
Since Krafla erupted, the plates in that area have been moving apart much faster than in the southwest, 2 cm a year at Thinvellir but up to 6 cm a year at Krafla for a 80 km wide area. This is 3 times what is considered normal and usually only happens after very large earthquakes.
There has been a large quake swarm at the Tjornes fracture zone recently, close to the Krafla area, and its ironic that it happened exactly when the IDDP drill Tyr, who will be used in the area came to Husavik harbor.
If one follows the fault line from Tjornes to Krafla to Askja, who is a enormous volcano, to Bardarbunga, trough the dead zone to Katla and Hekla, you will find lots of energy, there are no words to explain how dangerous this stuff is in the hands of idiots.
Therefore private investors should not be allowed anywhere near this resource, and keep absolute control of the resource in the hands of the Icelandic people where its used safely.
One of many good reasons to keep the EU out.














































Diesel oil demand has not recovered from its highs
omrpublic.iea.org/demand/ic_dl_ov.pdf
People are not driving their 4*4s on the icelandic plateau anymore I guess
Just to the shop and diesel for the trawlers……..
Although maybe this metric shows people are staying in their second homes again.
omrpublic.iea.org/demand/ic_ho_ov.pdf