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Ron Paul: "0% Chance Of 'Grand Bargain' Over Fiscal Cliff"
Shining a little reality light on the otherwise pollyanna-like dearth of pragmatism that is the mainstream media's guest-list, Ron Paul provided Bloomberg TV's Trish Regan a little more than we suspect she bargained for when asked if he had any hope that we avoid the fiscal cliff. The constant "delaying-of-the-inevitable" enables our politicians to avoid facing up to the serious consequences of our reality and as Representative Paul notes the chances of a grand bargain are "probably zero... that's why I think we're over the cliff [already]." Just like the handling of the debt ceiling debacle, Paul notes they will "pretend they are going to do it" until we get a total crash of the dollar and the entire financial system (which he notes is what will occur if we continue the status quo). "We are at a point of no return" unless certain things change, since "we are not the productive nation we used to be."
Paul on the fiscal cliff and whether politicians are under more pressure to just do what they need to do to get votes:
"Well I think that's true and I think it's been that way for a long time but the big difference is the Treasury is bare. It isn't like we're in the 1950s and 1960s where economic growth could work our way out of these problems that you could print money forever. Printing the money right now, what does it do, it fills the banks with excessive reserves and they get paid to park it at the Federal Reserve. So it's quite different. We're not the productive nation we used to be…we have a lot of jobs gone overseas. Our dollar is weakening because prices do go up and as long as we do that, the politicians are going to keep pushing that and trying to get away with that but the big question is how long will politicians will be able to get away with that."
On the probability that a grand bargain will be reached on the fiscal cliff:
"Probably zero… that's why I think we're over the cliff. We're past bargaining states because they will not address those things I just stated. They're going to try to pretend that they are going to do it. The way they handled the debt increase, last summer, that is a pretty good example. And matter of fact the debt increase might be the big event come February that might be big because they can roll things over…they can postpone big decisions in January and yet that still does not remove the uncertainty. Uncertainty is a major cause of the inability for the market to get moving again and they have to revamp it in a much more detailed fashion than they are even talking about right now."
On whether Obama will be able to bring Congress together for some kind of reform before the end of the year:
"Oh no, I think there will be something, but it will be very temporary, it won't be long lasting and restore confidence and fix the problem. But there will be some type of reconciliation of saying we'll do this and a little of that and it may even help the financial markets for a little while, but since it won't solve the problems it will only be temporary. "
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you tried Dr. Paul....you really really tried.....you may go in Peace
Forbidden Knowledge - History of the Khazar Empire [Lecture by Jack Otto]
http://youtu.be/ZVomYbbb3L0
Ron Paul looks like he deserves a rest. Being the sanest person in Washington has taken its toll. Still wish he was President, though.
Who is tired of hearing about "Fiscal Cliff" yet besides me?
It's just as tiresome as the "war on terrorism".
Bills need to get paid. Entitlements will want to be funded. There is only one solution.
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ron paul has always been a little on the radical side of things
i'd say deficating all over constitution a la NDAA etc etc is pretty radical, if only it weren't any longer...
And just as radical is a 16 trillion debt load, and mounting.
But yes, liberty is also a radical thing, in some way.
USTreasury returning less than real inflation. How's that bad for america? It is the Chinese that are getting the short end of the bargain.
Have you been in the stores lately to see where things are made?
Lets be logical. The fiscal cliff was created by a super committee. No problem, since everyone knows a super committee can fly.
I'm sure the super-duper committee can fix any problems the super committee couldn't.
If not there is always the supercalifragilisticexpialidocios committee.
I don't know who i believe anymore. Is Ron pushing for change or being conrolled resisatance, I don't know.
Free America,that's the goal, but will we ever get there.
Will we ever stop the Elite from killing all of us? I hope so......
We need to start a petition drive over at Obama's new petition website calling for, "Ron Paul's Annual Audit of the Federal Reserve Bank" Someone here better than me at writing a nice concise petition calling for a complete audit and accounting of transactions, gold holdings, ownership, etc.... I'll sign it, if someone can get it going.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/
Some day space aliens will come across the smouldering remains of our planet and wonder why the fuck we didn't listen to Ron Paul.
"I will steal the majority of peoples money, wealth, and ability to prosper by owning the money supply and making the monetary rules myself." - Dr. Evil
The National debt is $16 Trillion.
Billion with a "B"?, that was dead a long time ago.
We're talking in the "Ts" now.
Some day space aliens will come across the smouldering remains of our planet and wonder why the fuck we didn't listen to Ron Paul.
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And when they do... Krugman will be there hailing their arrival and how it'll be a boon to GDP... I hope he gets hit with the space ray first...
...or Ross Perot
True Huxley, the chinks are gettin the short end of the stick, and thats good.... Until the figure they got some boom boom when hey wanted yum yum. Last thing you want is a billion mowfo's all mad they got effed in the A. I mean you never seen that City Wok guy all pissed?
That would be true if only the chinese were still buying US treasuries - but they are not. The Fed is buying up most of the US Treasuries thru the back door from banks and the US taxpayers are simply taking on more debt from themselves while the primary dealers are picking up a commission for acting as front for the FED. The banks keep making money while the US government debt keeps piling up. The US debt is a house of cards.
100% correct. Furthermore, I would suspect there is some kind of under the table deal with the Chinese that the banks and fed suppress the price of gold so the Chinese can buy gradually at a lower price in exchange for china not dumping their treasury holdings all at once. China is no longer buying usts, they are buying gold.
Anyone who thinks gold prices are being suppressed is a fucking retard. If you know anything about economics, you know that artificially lowering prices results in shortages. There are no shortages. You can get all the gold you want at the market price. You don't need to buy it in the black market. You may think gold should be worth more than it is, but right now, Mr. Market does not agree, and the reason is simple. GOLD HAS NO YIELD, and the market is so yield-starved that it's chasing all kinds of shitty credits.
Yea, because upholding the Constitution and paying down debt is so radical.
That's true. Radical means to go to the root. Other politicians make feel good speeches which vary from crowd to crowd. Only Ron Paul gets the joint rockin' with talk of monetary policy, nonintervention and individual rights and responsibilities.
"ron paul has always been a little on the radical side of things"
Why, that radical ole' constitutionalist, he.
Liberty is now a radical proposition (see Gop double-cross and steady-as-she-goes election result)! Truly fucked up.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
G.O.
ron paul did what he could to educate- he was an MD and not a hard as nails street fighter..see what is happening to the military leadership to know what he would have faced if he had enough support to make a real run at POTUS.
We have to get back to the 80s when "radical" meant awesome.
Radical side of things?
Let me present the edgiest, most bad-ass, radical document ever written:
Read this again and behold what true rebels looked like. This is radicalism. Pure motherfucking awesome.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
And if you're too lazy to read it again, let me excerpt the most important sentence for you:
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"
America *is* radical, and don't ever forget it.
America *was* radical.
Have you heard that Greece might default on its debt yet? You might try researching that if you're tired of hearing about the fiscal cliff.
actually it's completely mis-named. if we go "over the cliff" we end up having our taxes go way up and spending slashed dramatically. and this is bad how again? sounds to me like we're arguing over the wrong thing here. don't we WANT to go over this thing?
Yeah, we want to turn the clock back 4 years before there was trillion dollar deficits and long term unemployment checks and tax breaks. The military cutbacks are cutbacks to their increases. The fiscal cliff is nothing. When they want to add another $2.5 trillion to the debt ceiling and Representative Boner wants to make a $250 cut to the annual budget, that'll be the real deal.
True. "Fiscal cliff" is a politicized descriptor. Keep in mind the term was coined by Bernanke. Going "over the cliff" -- the ramifications of what have already been agreed upon by both parties -- represents little more than a step *away* for the continuance of profligate government spending (underwritten of course by debt monitization).
"Fiscal cliff" -- Bring it on. We need it.
As Peter Schiff said, it's amazing that the msm/establishment has gotten to where they now make it out as if this thing is a "cliff" that we don't want to dare go over.
If we were to go over what the Marxists are calling a "cliff"(minus any of the tax hikes imo), it would mean that we would get a tiny little slice of libertarianism.
That's now called going over a cliff. LOL
I am all for going over the fiscal cliff. The media is fear mongering about the "fiscal cliff". People need to understand that this fiscal cliff is the best gift to USA to finally tackle its 17 trillion $ debt and increasing. The fiscal cliff will be the first step to resolve US debt problem immediately...Automatic Tax increase and spending cut is the only option for USA if anyone know how to do the math of addition and subtraction. If the US govt decide to kick the can down the road, the empire will definitely collapse worse than anything we have witness in history.. As for stupid Congress & Obama, the best they can do is to do nothing (when did they ever fix anything??)..
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Yep..
Ron Paul will be around, and as the SHTF, more people will wake up. He's resting up for what's coming next. I just hope we'll have some more leaders like him who can continue the education that so many in the Western World so desperately need.
First you got to get mad. Most people have forgotten how to do that. Here's an example,
For Pure Unadulterated Revenge. That's all this is about.
www.myspace.com/video/vid/109079927
New Rand Paul video.
Is 1984 Now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALN7LTeLxtI
Daily Paul community recommends this documentary.
Park Avenue: Money, Power & the American Dream
http://video.pbs.org/video/2300849486
Gee, any college course recommendations in there?
Or just the 'usual' conspiracy-based, populist (you know 'common-man wisdom', 'man on the street knowledge' kind of stuff, the 'man on the street' who doesn't know bull about much truth be told; you ever watch Jay Leno "Man on the street segments") bullshit?
(I would have tossed 'Bircher' along side populist in there, but you might have thought I wrote 'birther' and that is a whole different animal.)
That PBS show is biased, but there is good info in it. College is a waste of money and negative return on investment these days. Conspiracy Analysis is a profitable course study, but it requires a high IQ.
I was asked to do a rewrite on this;
I discovered a way for you to say anything profound you want and present content any which way you are inclined, without any interference from the Progressers, Neo-Cons, or the dead stream media. It's a get out of jail free card.
Prerequisite your incendiary thoughts if you perceive being attacked by the MSM, citing the name Alex Jones or invoke his name somewhere in the content, and you will never be bashed in the MSM for the information or opinion, as his name is banned from being spoken out loud on TV.
This is a monumental discovery. Use it prolifically to say whatever you want. If you are challenged on TV for any perceived politically incorrect statement you make, invoke the name Alex Jones, and that will immediately shut up your challenger. It's like throwing holy water on a vampire.
I wrote "College Courses"; I didn't say 'college' per se. Learn to read. (Although 'learning to think' I would say ought to be a LOT higher priority ...)
BTW, any mention of 'Alex Jones' and college in the same post is like bringing matter and anti-matter in close proximity with nothing good resulting from it.
So I gave you more than you asked for. Sorry. The course I recommended is "Conspiracy Analysis", I believe The Army War College offers it.
Ident777 econ
People's posts on the net' are frequently warped out of their original meaning. I hope that your posts do not reflect who you are. I say that because your posts sound like you are a constipated, irascible creature.
Wow, i mean, wow! My Space still exists?!!
I'm sick of heros and saviors.
Those who lead by example like Ron Paul don't need to billed as heroes or saviors. They gain attention and affection naturally.
0%. Isn't that what the big banks pay to borrow money from us?
That would be the number...and if it takes even more degradation of fiat currency/labor, they go -0%.
I disagree. 50% will not get the idea until the EBT cards are flashing TILT! Then, as they wonder who is responsible for feeding and wiping them, things will really hit the fan. They will be mad, hurt, angry and looking for new sources of free shit.
DETROIT! AMERICA'S NEW MODEL COMMUNITY!
Select the best small arms you can. Shotguns are very advised when the hoard comes looking for the people that have fed them all these years, the suckers in the middle class.
After the Fall of the Roman Empire, the people who picked up the pieces formed city-states and one city, Venice, was able to create a business empire that lasted twice as long as the Roman Empire. Whether or not something similar will happen in the near future is yet to be seen, but I'm sure we'll see something within the same framework.
You'll be surprised how resilient a lot of middle class folks will be (in my opinion) and how willing they will be to move towards a society built on personal responsibility. When it's the life of yourself and your family, there will be a lot more who decide not to be a part of the horde. Not to say the horde won't be incredibly menacing...
If what you said was untrue mankind would have died out millenia ago.
Little gap of 600 yrs in between.
Usualy called the"dark ages".
"Shotguns are very advised when the hoard comes looking for the people that have fed them all these years"
Chuck! You're a farmer too (or you work for Monsanto)?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdomBX8U0w
UROKO
History of the Khazar Empire put in perspective, ESPECIALLY in the LAST HALF HOUR of that documentary.
The best organized gangs of criminals tend to either wipe each other out, or merge into some partnerships.
Give me a break.. the MSM is already pumping rosy optimism over a compromise in the works. Right, as if it didn't take 2 months of screamfest deadlock between the power duopoly to pick the low hanging fruit for achieving a NEGATIVE budget trimming last summer.
Time for the popcorn, boys, but don't go short just yet.
Ron Paul has been in the Senate for a very long time. He knows the ins and outs.
He doesn't BS. If he says no chance for a grand bargain, I'd put stock in that and
invest accordingly.
Hmmmm...Joe Weisenthal or Ron Paul? Joe Weisenthal or Ron Paul?
It's awfully close, but I think I'll have to side with Ron Paul here.
That's weird to see Joe Weisenthal and Ron Paul mentioned in the same sentence.
One is arguably the last Statesman standing, and the other is a LSM clown who has to ask permission to use the restroom.
That's quite a juxtaposition there...
Senate....what kind of shapeshifter are you....
Settler, Your are so kind. I was thinking a lot worse.
Greek.
Congress, not senate
He was in the House, not the Senate. The term "Congress" means both House & Senate.
See what the MSM/government propaganda does? It conveniently leaves the do-nothing Senate in the shadows to work their "magic".
Which brings up another thing I've been mulling over...just why is it, that we have a former senator as president, a former senator as vice president, a former senator as secretary of state and the talk is...they want a former senator to join them and be defense secretary?
Prolly just me thinking these little connect the dots thingy's though...eh? ;-)
No free thinking outsiders allowed into the exclusive club...just think, President Clinton's fucking wife, dragged in on his coat tail, became a senator of NY and is the Secretary of State of the United States of America...as the late great George Carlin said very eloquently..."It's a big club and you and me aren't in it". Gives a new meaning to insider trading...(traitors).
and she stood by while he screwed everything breathing so that proves she's a woman of integrity, strength and principle
and nmewn makes an interesting point. The Congress suggests things and the Senate usually kills them. It's a very special club
We have waaaay too many former senators in the executive branch of government. They all think the same...not good.
A peacock mentality.
I wish they were peacocks. Peacocks are easy prey
Apparently she really wasn't much of a "fucking wife", at least based on Bill's activities.
We, here in the Commonwealth, are ardently enthusiastic that John Forbes Kerry, (who, by the way, served in Veet-Nam) take on his destiney role as SecDef. Or SecState, or whatever.
And how dare you, Sir, to challenge the reputation of the most exclusive debating club in the World? Shame, Shame I say (although Saul A. abrogates shame as a useless emotion, don't cha' know.)
Lots of people know that the Commonwealth fucked up to vote Liawatha into office. But, without Barry on the Ticket, Scott could return and represent normal people.
- Ned
{whistling past the graveyard, I fully acknowledge}
Shame, Shame I say (although Saul A. abrogates shame as a useless emotion, don't cha' know.)
Yes, it seems to be working in some quarters...its really a damned shame.
Once upon a time, no one had their hand out unless they were close to deaths door, despondent, helpless. Now, its gimme. From corporate to the projects.
Really is, a damned shame. Maybe shame is way overdue for a comeback.
Shame won't be back until murder and robbery are holding full sway first.
FORWARD SOVIET!
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H L Mencken
~John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
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~John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
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~John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
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~John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
BITCHEZ
If only we could find a way to reconcile shame and what's in it for me...................
I've often wondered about Obama's strategy on the Senate. Could it be "keep your enemies closer"? To defang the power brokers? To get back into the Senate, they would need to wait until the right time and probably challenge an existing Democrat.
Oh goody, Jon Corzine will fit right into the new cabinet seeing as how he's a former senator too. Hail, hail, the gang's all here...
What he is really saying is that there will not be a grand bargain of his liking, that is a return to gold standard, cut in military and welfare spending etc. But we will of course see a grand bargain. Not the one Ron Paul favours though. And me neither.
we'll see a grand bargain, but one where all the "cuts" are 10 years out and are really reductions in the rate of growth instead of actual cuts. the market will rejoice, burn the shorts, and then everything collapses in 2013.
Could be. But one of the historic ironies of the end of the Roman Empire was not that it was going to end, but that it took so long for it to end.
The difference now is that information travels by speed of light instead of horseback. Money disappears at the same speed now as well.
In other words, Greece for the last 18 months.
No thanks to the Gold standard. That we DO NOT want. Competing currencies in the US is what we want and what Paul advocates. At least in the short to medium term. A true return to the Gold standard is fraught with peril.
And certainly no bimetallism. A competing currency standard would let gold and silver fluctuate against each other along with any other currency in use which would lessen the chance of anyone being Crucified on a Cross of Gold.
I'm genuinely surprised I got even a single down arrow for my statement. I didn't think it was the least bit controversial and obvious common sense.
If they truly understood how easily such a thing could be manipulated, by the very powers they would wish to free themselves from, I suppose they'd feel differently.
A true Gold standard isn't the answer folks. Although, I agree almost anything would be an improvement ( at least in the short term ) over the current system.
Perhaps you've picked up a serial down voter. It's all the rage. If you post something along the lines of "Harrisburg is the capital of Pennsylvania" and receive down votes there's a good chance that you've got your very own mischievous shadow.
I'm not worried about the down arrow per se. I was just sort of a bit incredulous that anyone could legitimately be that dense.
If they want to junk me for grins they can knock themselves out.
Harrisburg is the broke-ass capital of Pennsylvania.
Fixed it for ya.
Zorba:
A plus+ for you, my man.
A 'very long time' in the Roman Senate and a 'very long time' in the:
u. s. congress
I am invested 'accordingly' om
I know Mr Paul is a congressman, must be the rum that made that mistake.
When Ron transforms from a congressman to a senator to a pink elephant you'll know to put the glass down.
+1 Amen Crocket
RP was House, not Senate.
What is this "was" stuff and the 'he's gone" shit? He's not dead and he's still in congress! For fucks sake don't fire the man and bury him before his time!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
He's retiring.
If you play Aimee Allen backwards it says "Paul isn't dead, man."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKh9Ko3mw4
Oh... there will be a 'grand bargain' regarding the Fiscal Cliff.
But the 'bargain' will involve more spending on nowhere close to adequate revenue collections... and yet another breach of the Debt Ceiling.
Bread and Circuses, my friends. That's exactly what we'll get... and that's probably exactly what we collectively deserve.
Print away, Professor Bernanke!
Nothing's over until we decide it is!!!
What happened to the Deltas I used to know?
Where's the spirit?
Where's the guts?
Huh?
This could be the greatest night of our lives.
But you're gonna let it be the worst.
Oh, we're afraid to go with you, Bluto. We might get in trouble.
Well just kiss my ass from now on!
Not me!!!
I'm not gonna take this!!!!!!!!!
well, u b talkin' to u-sef
??? tonight is the greatest night????
I think that Phil Collins did something along those lines.
- Ned
well, u b talkin' to u-sef
??? tonight is the greatest night????
I think that Phil Collins did something along those lines.
- Ned
Those Deltas have been replaced by these Deltas. Toga parties are one thing but you do not want any alcohol introduced into your incubator.
Didn't Blutarsky become a senator?
And a damn fine one at that. But when he let it slip he had presidential aspirations he was put on double secret probation.
I have no regrets about "throwing away" my vote by writing in Paul on my Florida ballot. I disagree with him on probably half of his fundamental policy ideas, but I agree 100% on the others (states' rights, much smaller federal government, dismantle police state, MIC, and others), and I believe he would honestly try to do what he promises. With the other choices, that made him the clear candidate to vote for. Too bad his son is a douche corporatist, because he could otherwise take up the mantle. Given that Ron Paul is probably at the end of his career for national office, we can only hope that the coming collapse will usher in a new round of reasonable alternatives to the Blue Team/Red Team nonsense, but I suspect our political candidate choices are going to get much worse before they get better.
"I have no regrets about "throwing away" my vote by writing in Paul on my Florida ballot. "
So you wrote in Ron Paul right? And told others to do the same yet you're anything but a Libertarian. I see you enjoy rubbing salt on the wound. Enjoy the script you wrote for yourself because I will.
So my vote for Ron Paul is salt in your wound? If that is the case, I'd say your wound is self-inflicted.
LTER is apparently attempting a conversion/intervention I think...to what purpose I have no idea.
But in the past, it has always defended more government regulation (now proclaiming a belief in smaller government). Not long ago, it defended "you didn't build that" to the disgust of those who did build that.
Maybe it was being contrarian then...but you are wise to keep this one at the end of a stick...I damned sure do.
Wow, I guess I have the winker so afraid of my consistent message that black and white thinking is counter-productive, that he refers to me as a non-person ("it"), and is encouraging others not to talk to me. How free-market-of-ideas-really-a-hypocrite-who-doesn't-like-dissent-freedom-is-for-me-and-not-you, of "him."
You were able to see the forest for the trees and wrote in RP for Prez, congratz. I'd wager there were hundreds of thousands of other 'progressives' right there with you.
Now consider how many 'Libertarians' were able to make an equally grand gesture and wrote in 'Ralph Nader' for Veep?
Count on one hand all the ZH echochambermaidens such an idea even occurred to I betcha y'all...
as long as we're on the subject of '~0% chances for Grand Bargains', I mean.
"I'd wager there were hundreds of thousands of other 'progressives' right there with you."
As long as you didn't make the wager in NYC...lol...looks like a bomb went off...
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/states/new-york
I was going to write in Ralph as Vice President but I chose slewie instead.
I voted for Roseanne Barr. She's the same as Ron Paul, without the whiney voice. End the federal reserve and usury and stop being the country with the most prisoners per capita and legalize weed. Paul should run as her vice president under the peace and freedom party next time.
weeellllll, not quite the same as. . .
Roseanne Barr strongly supports a woman's right to choose.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Roseanne_Barr.htm
but other than that, she's covered all the points made often, here. and she'd be hella funny in the role, you have to admit.
upvote for creativity, ha.
The establishment grows increasingly paranoid with each incremental loss in the power of their propaganda.
You're doing it correctly. They must come over to the correct "side." Compromise only hastens our demise at this point.
"that he refers to me as a non-person ("it")"
Ok, clarification is in order then...are you male or female?...this would be a yes or no question to you LTER.
"and is encouraging others not to talk to me."
No, it would be just what I said...holding you and your ever changing ideas at arms length...even to the point of holding you on a stick.
"who-doesn't-like-dissent-freedom"
Dissent-Freedom?
Mmmkay. I clearly said, you may have been being contrarian in your previous arguments in defending more government regulation and the "you didn't build that" hogwash.
But you defended both of them...did you not? In so doing, how do you reconcile that with your new found "small government" position?
Hey straw man. Good to see again, as always. You post here every day, 12 or 14 hours a day, so you must read even more often (assuming you care what anyone says but "you"). Find a single quote from me defending "big government." I consistently defend the concept of government, which brings us such awful things as roads, schools, airports, GPS, etc, but I never defend a bloated government defined by the MIC. I'm sorry for you that you can't see the difference. Rander.
1) Ok, I'll continue to call you an "it"...as you didn't answer the question. Even though you object to being called an "it"...when given the opportunity to clarify, to right some feigned indignity on your person, you declined.
2) So, in your opinion, THE ONLY place you can find "bloat", across the entire expanse of federal government, is in the defense department? Mr.Chu can stuff cash in the pockets of Obama crony's for Fisker Karma's, Mr.Holder can run guns across the border to kill innocent mexicans and Mzzz. Sebelius can regulate a citizens health care until they go on the government dole and you are all good with that?
Over 6,000 new notices & regulations in just the last 90 days is the definition of bloat...
November 9, 2012 (CNSNews.com) – It’s Friday morning, and so far today, the Obama administration has posted 165 new regulations and notifications on its reguations.gov website.
In the past 90 days, it has posted 6,125 regulations and notices – an average of 68 a day.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/6125-proposed-regulations-and-notifications-posted-last-90-days-average-68-day
Looks to me like, they have a lot of people sittin around thinking up things to regulate.
What have you got to say about this?...Citizen It ;-)
Huffington Post
November 13, 2012
A Republican state legislator in Montana who once supported U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) for president is asking to be paid in gold and silver coins to guard against a collapse of the dollar.
State Rep. Jerry O’Neil (R-Columbia Falls) wrote to the state’s Office of Legislative Services on Friday making the request, noting that concerns among his constituents about the national debt have prompted him to ask for payment in gold and silver coins “that are unadulterated with base metals.” O’Neil, who is entering his sixth term, had not objected previously to being paid in dollars by the state for his services. Politico first reported the story on Tuesday.
“My constituents, when I went door to door, one of the things they were interested in was the $17 trillion national debt,” O’Neil told The Huffington Post. “Some of my constituents said we would not have this problem if we had currency backed by gold.”
http://www.infowars.com/montana-legislator-asks-to-be-paid-in-gold/
Link(hope I did this right).
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-paul-washington-not-facing-reality-KR...
Ron Paul was simply the messenger of an "Idea whose time has come".
Ron Paul may speak the truth but he never had a shot at the presidency.
On the other hand, General Petraeus did and now he has been compromised
because of his affair. I have been telling my friends for years that Petraeus was
the only hope this country had. A military coup after the collapse of the dollar,
was our only hope of getting back on track to a government of the people.
Petraeus was the obvious candidate to lead the coup. In my heart I believe
Petraeus is a patriot and could lead us back to Democracy after the demons
have been exorcised.
If you're looking for a Caesar, that's not the one we need. Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eau3RoxGN8E
It's too late for bargains anyway.
a Republican who wants to cut military spending!?!? i'm all in, Paul 2016
Ron Paul first ran for president in 1988. I find it extraordinary that he managed to keep his patience for another 24 years.
Hear that? zero, nien, kaputsky. The sun will not rise nor set. Finished. Game over. Move on, start a war.
I'm really going to miss this guy's candid responses to dumb econo-questions.
Dont worry he will still be around
Nice person, good intensions... Out of touch with reality...
Ron Paul is a , pragmatic person... Ron Paul is "just Ron Paul"!
Invigoration BITCHEZ!
Disagree Yen, maybe out of touch with those voters who need their social fix from Obama, but not out of touch with reality. In fact, I would say he is one of the few who is "In touch" with the truth. He was our hope, and it is gone.
nO oFFENCE , to Mr.Paul. I think he is trying to "teach " his legacy to people that weren't around 3-4 decades ago.
When I went to school, "cigarettes were bad". Funny thing is cigarettes are still bad...
I think cigarettes are pretty good. That's why I'm willing to risk death by smoking them.
I'll second that risk.
"He was our hope, and it is gone."
Well to be honest, you sir are our only hope, think about that for awhile.
Well... that, and Obi Wan Kenobi. ;)
"He was our hope, and it is gone."
Considering his unprecedented record of success how could he fail?
I had better luck at the track with dog names that were anagrams of his.
No offense but it's time we man up and be our own hope.
+ 1 Agreed.
Plus 2! Junks/down votes< are for pussies!
worked for an island up north
Exactly. Unplug from the matrix.
Get as much of your life out of the system as feasible and starve the leviathan.
Short Risk
I like your Afghan heroin-induced version of reality, but I like keeping my teeth better. I'll continue to support the Paul and say no to freebasing h-bombs while looping Krugman lectures on youtube.
Stagflation BITCHEZ!
Now U went and dun it...
Romney really blew it by alienating the libertarians ... but of course no mention of this in MSM....
Thanks S/V, I just couldn't verbalise?
Perhaps, but imagine the shit storm Romney would have got FROM the MSM if he had simply endorsed most of Ron's quite rational economic policies. There's the heart of darkness.