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Ron Paul: "0% Chance Of 'Grand Bargain' Over Fiscal Cliff"

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Shining a little reality light on the otherwise pollyanna-like dearth of pragmatism that is the mainstream media's guest-list, Ron Paul provided Bloomberg TV's Trish Regan a little more than we suspect she bargained for when asked if he had any hope that we avoid the fiscal cliff. The constant "delaying-of-the-inevitable" enables our politicians to avoid facing up to the serious consequences of our reality and as Representative Paul notes the chances of a grand bargain are "probably zero... that's why I think we're over the cliff [already]." Just like the handling of the debt ceiling debacle, Paul notes they will "pretend they are going to do it" until we get a total crash of the dollar and the entire financial system (which he notes is what will occur if we continue the status quo). "We are at a point of no return" unless certain things change, since "we are not the productive nation we used to be."

Paul on the fiscal cliff and whether politicians are under more pressure to just do what they need to do to get votes:

"Well I think that's true and I think it's been that way for a long time but the big difference is the Treasury is bare. It isn't like we're in the 1950s and 1960s where economic growth could work our way out of these problems that you could print money forever. Printing the money right now, what does it do, it fills the banks with excessive reserves and they get paid to park it at the Federal Reserve. So it's quite different. We're not the productive nation we used to be…we have a lot of jobs gone overseas. Our dollar is weakening because prices do go up and as long as we do that, the politicians are going to keep pushing that and trying to get away with that but the big question is how long will politicians will be able to get away with that."

On the probability that a grand bargain will be reached on the fiscal cliff:

"Probably zero… that's why I think we're over the cliff. We're past bargaining states because they will not address those things I just stated. They're going to try to pretend that they are going to do it. The way they handled the debt increase, last summer, that is a pretty good example. And matter of fact the debt increase might be the big event come February that might be big because they can roll things over…they can postpone big decisions in January and yet that still does not remove the uncertainty. Uncertainty is a major cause of the inability for the market to get moving again and they have to revamp it in a much more detailed fashion than they are even talking about right now."

On whether Obama will be able to bring Congress together for some kind of reform before the end of the year:

"Oh no, I think there will be something, but it will be very temporary, it won't be long lasting and restore confidence and fix the problem. But there will be some type of reconciliation of saying we'll do this and a little of that and it may even help the financial markets for a little while, but since it won't solve the problems it will only be temporary. "

 


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Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment Evil Bugeyes
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I agree. Something very funny is going on. Since when do a few spiteful emails warrant an FBI investigation?

Petraeus is a Republican and perhaps he might have had political ambitions. Are the Dems eliminating possible 2016 opponents?

Or is the FBI showing the CIA who is really boss?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:59 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Seven Days in May (November).

Only the roles are reversed. This time, the prez is NOT on the side of the Constitution.

Paging RP. Paging RP.

Emergency.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Fuck 'n' a right. +1000

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:55 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Shades of Stalin's Purge! You're right!

These Reds never alter their game plan.

The military had better fight back before they are replaced with russians.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:33 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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JFK was shot dead in broad daylight by George H.W.'s  assasins and even that was whitewashed. The current story is entertaining and damning, but at the end of the day, it's a fart in a windstorm.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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Not just Bush assassins, pretty sure Johnson, CIA and military industrial elite in there too.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:35 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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Absolutely... I can't say enough about the Dark Legacy documentary... and people say NetFlix is useless.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:24 | Link to Comment hamstercheese
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Right now I'm convince the driver shot him..that's why Jacquelin tried to get out of the vehicle....

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment fuu
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<golf clap>

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:24 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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I think the issue of the fiscal cliff  is the same as what Germany is doing with Greece.  Wait it out and stagnate which keeps things from getting better but more importantly getting worse fiscally as they are essentially freezing everything by simply waiting.

Neither party cares that taxpayers will slowly be wrung dry from joblessness, low wages, layoffs, benefit cuts, pension cuts; little by little bleeding the public but so slow so they don't notice and don't complain at once in a loud voice but instead in intermittent squeaks. 

The frogs are being boiled slowly and politicians are not in the pot and only have to worry about being elected again to remain out of the pot for a few more years.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:36 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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"The frogs are being boiled slowly and politicians are not in the pot..."

 

They are most assuredly in the pot and within the reach of pitchforks and torches.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:13 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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blah blah....  kill a few and they are replaced by who?? more people who get bribed to fuck over workers who don't have time or access to bitch slap them

 

people have to start local, fix all local governments and clean up the mess from the bottom to the top...  but people hate the real boring town hall budget talks.. they love the big stage of gay this and that, abortions, war, etc

fools everywhere shaking their fist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Ok Fellas, have at it.  At least you have the guts enough to claim your " Chinese, everyone< wins Trophy>

  Z/H isn't a flower shop!  bitchez

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment hamstercheese
Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:12 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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Awe come on, the two parties told everyone, when they gave ''Favorite Nation Status'' to the Great Wal Mart of Communist China Suicide Vampire Squid abortion of the Constitution, that the 2012 New World Order Out of Many In (g)od We Trust Debt Note Egyptian Pyramid Mark of the Beast is the symbol they confirmed when they sealed the ceiling. They did not paint George as this (g)od on the inside ceiling of the Temple these builder's mapped out with their ''Sirius Screw You'' over ''their'' Apollyon's Shoulder and through the White House window because they have not mapped out their plan from the beginning. LMAO. Even if the majority know not what they do, the spirit of corruption is so moved among the blind U.N.SEALedTEAM hosts. Who was tempted to cast a vote? ...but the deceived, and given into temptation, delusional morons! Does anyone, with half a brain, really think; the current geopolitical Israeli NeighborHOOD's and willful idiots of ''controlled demolition malitia men'', counterintelligently imploding from within, around Israel, being armed by the BiPolar East West Eagle of Lagash, are not part of the global borderless effort to establish their Preemptive Nobel Peace Prize for Nuclear NonproLIFEration response? LMAO. Damn it Jim, Ron is just a country Doctor, how much more of a telegraphed punch do people need in TBTB ZIRP Global Guyana? LMAO. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY STUPID IF YOU THINK THIS AIN"T THE MARK OF THE BEAST EVENT HORIZON BEING CROSSED, THAT HAS ALREADY EATEN THE CONSTITUTION AND LABOR, AS IF IT WAS NOT AN S&P BABYLON IS FALLEN ...is fallen, LMAO, ...666 ...Print BITCHEZ! ...666 APPLE ...666 CITI MARKET MAKER ABORTION CALL OF DEMAND DESTRUCTION WAR AND DEATH IN THE BLACK HOLE, ...or, you could be just a blind General BetratU.S. thinking with the same 666 dick over your shoulder evil bastard. Bla haa haa. 

Ron is just being polite, at best. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_AAD7Dij-8

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Chaos_Theory
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I got a contact high from your post!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 It's one thing to fit in Dr. Englai. It's another thing to lie? I'm putting together a Z/H get-together for next summer.

   I cordially, expect your presense, when I return from Australia! after the 'cyclone season'/

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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It is not a lie! Motherfucker. Google Lawrence Lepard Ron Paul ads and then STFU and go back to your convict laden homeland you piece of human excrement.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Child/ When you have even approached my abilities. When you have grasped the abilities of " ?"

  Don't give me a call. You are not even remotely capable!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:37 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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Lame. Pwowned. Goodnight.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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What is a " quad-angle"?   Hint, It's tin and you fish in it!   At least you are smart enough to build a alluminium boat!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:54 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Fuck you inbred Jed! It's Quail and Dove season!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Miramanee
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oh the irony....what makes a fascist in greece (golden dawn, golden shower...who are those a-holes?) become a facist? is it ideology??? not really. anger? perhaps...but only when that anger is reflected and echoed by others. it is dopamine my friends...the most powerful substance on the planet. mobs thrive on dopamine....and you'all here at zerohedge; in your view you make reasoned and rational comments about such figures as ron paul, the ben bernank, 'little' timmy geithner, etc. but reasoning has very little to do with your lives on this blog. you thrive on one-another's doomerism, regardless of the facts. ron paul...the sanest man in congress? has anyone here actually considered what would happen if we retunred to a commoditized monetary standard? instant 30% contraction. many here say, "good...that's what we need...clear the debt from the system." THAT would be the SHTF...and that is WHAT YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT!!....austerity gives rise to extremism...and extremism in all of its manifestations keeps the dope flowing through your veins. You people WANT collapse because it feeds your dopamine habit. Take that to the bank, ZH.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:38 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 3rd year, out of money "Triste".. Have you ever twisted a "79" 911 Turbo? Do you know what heel and toeing is?

  Do you know why the tensil strength of steel was changed/ CHILD!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Miramanee
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Ummmmm.....what?????

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 How many "crocs do ya fish for"? Average the size/ cost of gas/labor/> you have a ballace sheet for your lenders.

   Then you compare the industry, and resourses/costs. and get a whole sale cost...   

   Shit the New Guineans are smarter!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:25 | Link to Comment mogul rider
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the doomsday thing is so yesterday.

human ingenuity will win out

that is if it's not taxed out of existence first

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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American ingenuity will win out.

 

There... I fixed your post.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Beat it! You are clueless!  You are the master of "nothing"

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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Yeah riiight, Private Snowball. The Disney World Robot will sing ''A Deeper Shade of Soul'' and the whole world of labor is not now taxed with the mark of a Billion plus Commies and the rest that think they are not so exposed. LMAO. Watch out for that Tree of Life, George. You obvioulsy do not know where you are, and don't recognize the fact that you are not in the woods going down the slope, or the fact that the Big APPLE is way past fermented. Yer in the drakness of the black hole and there is no way out of the dark pool the beast pissed in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSHhcXpCqg

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Seer
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Ron's overlooking the real undercurrents to "poor productivity."  I don't think that he'd like to sign up for improving it lest he wants to join up with the neocons, for it is the neocons who are trying to get their hands on the REAL source of productivity (OIL = ENERGY).

The US was on the downslope when it started becoming a net importer of oil/energy.  The dots get separated if you push past this timeframe via savings and or manufacturing (that was built with cheap energy), leading people to forget about the energy flip.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:24 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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As I see it we are rushing on a crap load of energy now. There is no dearth of it for most in the USA or Europe or China or Russia or India or the rest of the usual suspects.

The powerful questions are “what is being done with it”?

Who does it benefit?

Like Dr. Evil coming out of a long seaway out of context and asking ransom in the million rather than trillion range for world salvation..

Though humorous in light of our human condition it is not funny.  Life for me is not a joke.

Let’s move on to the Mike Meyers manufacturing theme..

Bring manufacturing back!

Lots of jobs right?

Yep! For robots..

 

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:46 | Link to Comment nah
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public servants

.

zero

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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Belief system questions and certainty.

Follow those who call for certainty knowing you and they are right.

Within them is the equation that spells out the ultimate outcome for that was and is and may be.

Salvation!

Spell check may correct your grammar at a Flesh rating of 6.0 but not convey your meaning.

Why do you believe what you believe?

What and who is programming me?

Is this the way I want it to be?

Who cast the spell of my existence?

Who is the god of meaning I bow down before?

How do I know this is the truth?

Who are you to say?

McGspot

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Fuck these hill billies. I'm short risk.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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As leader of the hill billies, I am politely asking you to scram. No one wants to read your crap.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:04 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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As the leader of the dip shits , you are banished! lets make a bet ass hole!

 I'll donate 1ok to your favorite charity, if you win. you donate 10k to Zero Hedge if I win smart ass!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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You don't have $10k.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Pussy! I have 200k sitting in my hand/ right now! Buying some Maple Leafs this week end!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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Eeeeeeeeewwwwww. Big man. You are my hero.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 That donation, is redirected to "colon cancer" research. You would have done the same.

 

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:46 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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Buy with both hands in or before Feb and dump it in March, the metal markets are laging behind in price 3 months right now.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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I would be happy to provide a picture?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:05 | Link to Comment BeansBulletsBandaids
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We prefer the term "ozark-american".

 

hillbilly is rayciss

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment alibi
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and clearly long fucktard. don't forget to hedge.

oh, and spellchecker.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 22:59 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Ron Paul couldn't find his way out of a "chilli cookoff"!

  The guy will be dead in 3-5 years. Young people like him because they  are looking for direction!

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:20 | Link to Comment Savyindallas
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you're really stupid-aren't you? You can at least get that question right  -I hope.  

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:29 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 You are really indoctrinated aren't you?  What are you 20 something years old/

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:06 | Link to Comment jomama
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Yen Cross voted Romney.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Yen cross, (did not vote)...

  Better ways to improve life./

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:14 | Link to Comment Quarky Gluon
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I don't think the citizens have ever expected the government to do as much as Paul says.  Congress and the president just keep on acting seperately from the public and then just hold a popularity contest every 2 years to see who gets to stay or join up with the ivory tower that is capitol hill.  Who among the citizenry, after all, has demanded we have several hundred overseas military bases?  Not many, but the politicians go ahead and fund those bases, give out foreign aid and farm subsidies that most citizens are blissfully ignorant of, much less advocating for.

Also, I highly doubt that we are not as productive as we used to be.  I'm quite sure instead that we are much more productive than we ever have been.  It is just with every improvement in productivity, the fruits of those improvements have been going into fewer and fewer hands.  Unfortunately that regressive trend will likely continue where every job lost to technology will only represent a loss of income for the worker replaced by the machinery while the owner will just hang on to all the increased profits due to the total cost of ownership of the machine being less than the cost of the employee.  I don't see any other way to reverse the trend other than with the help of the government to force a fair redistribution of the nations wealth and bounty.  

We are living in a fundamentally different time from when the constitution was written.  There was no such thing back then as the computers, robots and artificial intelligence that now or in the future could potentially replace the modern day equivalent of the colonial blacksmith, cooper, cobbler and every other position that was once held by a human being.  Without a government enforced fair distribution of wealth, how will a human be able to have any income in a world where there are no no longer any jobs that provide an income for humans?

 

 

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Jugdish
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There was no such thing back then as the computers, robots and artificial intelligence that now or in the future could potentially replace the modern day equivalent of the colonial blacksmith, cooper, cobbler and every other position that was once held by a human being.

 

You forgot rampant free pornography.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:28 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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But we already have a government enforced fair distribution of wealth. The problem is that you have a different definition of fair.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 04:13 | Link to Comment bunnyswanson
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China pulled millions out of poverty in the last 10 years, leaving millions of American workers in poverity as a consequence.  and..they took the jobs of their customers.  

Bringing all citizens across the globe up to standards of 1st world life and you'd create millions of new consumers.  I believe this could end up being the only solution, right after dissolving megacorporations and attempting for a change to do honest business for the good of society, that is.  

The 2nd video in this link is very informative about what is taking place in the NE with regards to aftermath of Sandy.   remember it is winter in the NE. 

http://theintelhub.com/2012/11/13/long-beach-martial-law-persists-as-curfews-have-been-implemented/

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:20 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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Pinata Economics....  just a smash and grab

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:26 | Link to Comment P.T.Bull
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If a dolt like obama with his disasterous campaign can win a second term, republicans are no longer relevant, and we are past the tipping point. No hope and change this time, no pretending things will get better--just a vote for the status quo. And republicans should be irrelevent, as they have successfully resisted libertarian influence and put forward a status quo candidate romney. White teeth and no apparent core beliefs.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:42 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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He didn't win a second term, they stole it. 59 districts in Philly recieved -0- votes for Romney the RINO, Nuff said. Florida had more ballots casted in some counties then they have residence. Go search that.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:01 | Link to Comment jomama
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par for the (s)election course.

http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/Documents/ExitPoll.pdf

and notice Romney didn't say shit about what you just mentioned.  just like good little bitch Kerry didn't.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 07:13 | Link to Comment LateToTheTable
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Is theft committed on the thief a crime? If so, there is no reason to wonder why this menagerie of humans- in the failure of- being, continue to entertain with kabuki.  

Oh, the Out Rage! - cut one, scene nine, (the actors take their places).  Help me out here kind ZH - I've lost my place on where we are in the script.

The corruption is so deep and pure that few, yes very few, could execute a cleansing.  The rot has become so profound that even the dullest of knives in the drawer can smell it.  And if there was a fair executioner to be found ~ who could withstand the fire that would burn them to the ground they traversed?

Wait with enduring patience, said the watchman, We shall see for it's coming.... Hell is a comin'.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:26 | Link to Comment P.T.Bull
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Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Tis the Ron Paul season. Red Costumes, and grey beards.

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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Wow! This Ron Paul guy seems pretty smart! I think he should run for President some day...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:01 | Link to Comment seton
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Yeah dude, where has this guy been in the last 4 years?

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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double

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 23:50 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Just sell some puts, or  buy some out  of the money "February Calls", to hedge your self.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:11 | Link to Comment SanOvaBeach
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What is for desert?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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RETARDS

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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JHC!  I had to pause the interview because I'm so irritated.  How many fucking times is that bubblehead going to ask the same goddamn question? 

Re:  Dr. Paul.  This interview really highlighted his mental acuity and laser-like focus; no teleprompter and no uh's and ah's while his brain caught up to his mouth.  The country had its chance to elect an intelligent, educated, honest man as President, and we are going to rue the opportunity lost. 

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:40 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Long Live Real Estate Geek

   The guy gets it! 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:47 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 This  crap is old!  I'm tired of the same  old shit!  A bunch of " douche bags" that have never traveled abroad!

  I'm so burn't on children! You fucking worthless entitled piglets'

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 00:52 | Link to Comment Incubus
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Ron Paul -- 1st President of the New United States of America

 

bet me we'll see it in our lifetime.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 i can't believe the way that these kids minds are being pillaged!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:50 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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I understand it and am not standing for it. I protect my children, as they will for me in time as they learn the lesson of gratitude and reciprocity understand.

Patience.

Or not.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 You know yer getting old when ?  Just having some fun...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 01:52 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I made a promise. I'll send a notorized copy of my donation to Tyler.  I hope he brings back"captcha"

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:05 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Yen Cross is OK in my book.   A ZH fixture. 

Haters B hatin' but God's love is free.

 

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:55 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I do not want to be the "mayor of Z/H"! I occasionally contribute"....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:18 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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I salute Ron Paul for not riding into his sunset years quietly. The truth must always be spoken, particularly when it is under constant attack by vile politicians and bankers. It must be spoken even when dark forces seem to have defeated the nation. It must be spoken even when there is no one left to hear it.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:29 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 it's OK, we all spend some time in the "out house"

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:36 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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 In the world of monitor and control.

Understand your role bitch,

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:48 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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So i will become the Architect of Control, make the plan for World Conquest and Domination.

The folks doing it now are failing with great penache.

That is not my way.

May you have it as you wish.

All the best!

Michael

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 02:53 | Link to Comment McRocket
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I fear Ron Paul will be dead/near dead before the country realizes that he was right ALL along.

I believe he will be looked back on by history as a beacon of political sanity in a sea of short sightedness. A man who stood up against almost everyone to say what was right.

Fortunately, there are all these videos to show people of the future just how right he was.

I have no heros...but if I did, he would be one of them.

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 03:07 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ron was genuinely pleased and surprised by the support he received in 2008 and 2012. He's been speaking out for liberty for forty years and for the first time he has the attention and affection of a million people, many of them young people who will determine future events. He's tickled pink which is certainly fair as he's likely done that to a baby or two in his time.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 04:56 | Link to Comment Floodmaster
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Same old speeches, Ron Paul Economics would lead to a depression, he want to pull the plug on the boomer debt debauchery ??? This economy is run by and for the Boomer assets inflation.Don't forget that they own 78 percent of America’s financial assets and 80 percent of all money in savings accounts. Bankers love inflation and hope they will be dead before the exponential wall of debt occurred. This slow-motion train wreck cannot be stopped, resistance is futile,politics won't change a thing.

nice tangent line ... http://www.futuretimeline.net/subject/images/us-debt-graph-2020.jpg

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 04:17 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 This is for Ron pauls bretheren. The Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin - YouTube

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 05:36 | Link to Comment falak pema
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BRuce Krasting also predicted this. Good shooting from the hip.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 06:14 | Link to Comment luckylongshot
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There are only three things that grow exponentially and all three end in death....cancer, parasites and compound interest...Ron as usual is spot on!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Dre4dwolf
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Everyone is too grounded, everyone is clinging to their rock afraid to fall off, ........JUST........LET..........GO..........

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 07:18 | Link to Comment Monedas
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Monedas to Earthlings .... You're fucked !

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 07:35 | Link to Comment Monedas
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CNN report on a mutilated African child:   "I felt his grief ! I felt his pain ! I wanted to do something ! (So, I dumped him on the doorstep of the US taxpayers !)"     US undeclared dumping ground for all basket cases that move liberal hearts !  Tax Genocide decimates our families .... we are still expected to pay up and smile ?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 09:38 | Link to Comment Aegelis
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Ron Paul reminds me of a father and oil changes.  "I told you over and over again to change the oil every 2,500 miles or else your engine would eventually blow up.  Now that you're stuck on the interstate you're calling me?"

Fri, 12/07/2012 - 23:29 | Link to Comment cgagw
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Fri, 12/28/2012 - 01:08 | Link to Comment MikeMcGspot
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Episode 27, Ron Paul spin on earthlings,

Oh the sense of urgency, I think I going to swoon!

Catch me, cathch me please.

Frankly my dear I don't give a damn.

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