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Complication: US Ally Egypt Gets Involved, Says Will No Longer Tolerate Israel's Gaza Attacks

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it was only a matter of time before today's Israeli offensive ran into a snag. The complication: Egypt, which has long been treading the fence being both a pro-US regional power (someone has to provide those joint guarantees on Egyptian bonds, and to supply the local tear gas canisters in exchange for a friendly Suez Canal administrator), as well as a pro-Muslim presence. Today, the government was taken to task by the ruling Islamist Muslim Brotherhood which felt the need to be true to its name and express disgust at the Israeli action in Gaza. From AFP: "Egypt’s Islamist Freedom and Justice Party, formerly headed by President Mohammed Mursi, said on Wednesday Egypt would no longer stand by as Israel attacked Palestinians after air strikes killed a Hamas leader. The FJP, the political arm of the powerful Muslim Brotherhood movement, said Israeli air strikes that killed top militant Ahmed al-Jaabari in Gaza earlier on Wednesday required “swift Arab and international action to stop the massacres.” The party, which fielded Mursi in a June election to replace toppled president Hosni Mubarak, said Israel “must take into account the changes in the Arab region and especially Egypt.” Egypt “will not allow the Palestinians to be subjected to Israeli aggression, as in the past,” the party statement said."

The problem is what happens when outgoing regional presence Hillary Clinton makes a phone call to Mursi and reminds him just who runs the country. Should Egypt even then continue pretending it is willing to risk its US alliance and push for solidarity with Palestine then all bets are off, including bets that Suez Canal access to key Israel ally - the US - will remain uninhibited.

More:

Mubarak, overthrown in early 2011, was criticized by his opponents for his response to an Israeli invasion of Gaza in 2008-2009 following rocket fire by Palestinian militants.

 

Mursi, a vociferous supporter of the Palestinians before his election, had been expected to open up to the blockaded Gaza Strip bordering Egypt, but his government has backed off from his pledges.

And then this:

Not surprisingly, Enduring America's "snap analysis" agrees:

This campaign against Gaza puts the Middle East in an awkward spot. Clearly, "Arab Spring" was, if nothing else, a referendum on human rights. If leaders like Egypt's Morsi, or others in the region, see that their populous views today's events similarly to events in, say, Syria or Libya, then this could force regional leaders to put significant pressure on Israel.

 

It's too early to speculate, but to say that the region is highly susceptible to instability at the current moment is an understatement.

The ball is now in Israel's court. Because while the small country may be willing to engage three regional powers at the same time, one wonders if going full retard and adding Egypt to the countries provoked will be something even Israel is willing to do.

 

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Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:09 | 2980264 Xibalba
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GOG AND MAGOG, BITCHEZ!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:13 | 2980277 xtop23
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Annnnnnnd...........SCENE !

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:13 | 2980286 HobbyFarmer
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The timing is amazing!  What a coincidence that escalations would occur AFTER elections in the US.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2980300 Spastica Rex
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I thought the Jews wanted Romney.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2980351 john39
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war by deception.  besides, any really difference in the blind and unconditional support slathered upon Israel by both sides of the Party in the U.S.?  all for show.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:35 | 2980436 Bay of Pigs
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Yes, via AIPAC who has enormous influence over at the State Dept and Pentagon.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:41 | 2980472 john39
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when the banks you control print money, publically and secretly, its not hard to buy up everything, including politicians...   isn't freedom swell?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:49 | 2980802 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Not a big fan of Ape Act. Sure, it's cute when they put on dresses and ride on little bicycles but if you get too close they'll bite your face off.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:21 | 2981578 Spirit Of Truth
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This is extraordinarily dangerous.  The stock market was tracing out an almost perfect parallel pattern to the 1929 and 1987 stock market crashes going into the total solar eclipse today and now we just went over the cliff if the analogy holds:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/11/dow-13000-manic-depressive-...

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/11/extreme-danger-immediately-...

The only difference is this time it's not so much financial and economic affairs that are the concern as geopolitical affairs.  My sense is the Mideast is about to explode.  God have mercy on our souls.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:29 | 2981622 DosZap
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God have mercy on our souls.

You think HE is trying to get a lot of folks attention?,we are a lot closer than anyone dreams.

Look at the Fig tree bro.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 01:53 | 2982439 Joseph Jones
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Per Custus, the fig tree represents "religious" Israel of the OT and up to the destructinon of the temple 70 AD, which ended the Mosaic/Leviticul era forever.  It's not the "end of time" but the "time of the end" which is the end of God's dealing with physical Israel.

Jesus' telling the Pharisees, "The axe is at the root of the tree" means the Mosaic/Leviticul law was coming to an end within "that generation" which means within 40 years from the time Jesus said it.  He said it between 30-33 AD, so it had to happen (the end of the Mosaic era) by 70 AD, which is when God visited His wrath upon the unrepentent Hebrews for one last time.  "The blood of all the prophets you killed is upon this generation." 

This concept only makes sense in the context of "progressive grace" and does not work in the context of "flat grace" which is what Jews, "Judeo-Christians" (no such thing, two mutually exclusive terms) and their sycophants are stuck in.  Progressive grace is the only way one can come to grips with Paul of Tarsus qualifying his being "Hebrew" as "dung".  Paul counts all things including being Hebrew as "loss for Christ" and to "gain Christ".  

This is the only way one can understand why God/Jesus told the woman at the well that "a time comes and now is when you shall no longer worship (proskuneo) on this mountain nor in Jerusalem."  (BTW, the concept of something being here/not quite here only exists in Greek and has no direct translation in English.  In Enblish, something is either here or not here.)   

In flat grace, the thought of not worshipping in the temple in Jerusalem is impossible.  Flat grace is why modern churchianists are stuck in church with a modern Moses, AKA their god-forsaken scum of the earth "pastor". 

Because 99.99% of modern "pastors" sold out in favor of the mammon of Judaism and its philosophy, the concept of progressive grace is anathema in modern churchianity.  Flat grace is why people say and promote oxymoronic terms like "Judeo-Christianity" what I and others call Judeo-churchianity, "Christians" killing for the King (military, police, etc)...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:25 | 2980359 BKbroiler
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Israel is scared of pissing off Egypt?  Please.... anyone ever heard of the 6 day war?  Yeah, and that was before they had nukes.  The only thing restraining Israel is public opinion, nothing else.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:27 | 2980375 john39
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sounds psychopathic...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:32 | 2980412 kito
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egypts masters will NEVER allow egypt to do more than gripe......money talks:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20322407

 

http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u.s.-aid-to-egypt-where-do...

 

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:36 | 2980445 BKbroiler
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It takes a psycopath to defend the asylum sometimes.  I am not a fan of Israel but at least they are a secular, westernized nation who isn't burying women up their neck in sand and stoning them.  The middle east is done... once the west is weened off their oil there will be nothing worth taking and they will disappear back into the sand.  They know this also which is why they tried to diversify in Dubai to no avail.  Sorry Allah, next time buddy.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2980480 john39
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you are kidding yourself man...  Israel is controlled by rabid fundamentalists...  it is a fascist state posing as a democracy...   as far as women's rights go, ask a woman wearing a skirt to walk around anywhere near an orthodox neighborhood...    Israel as the modern liberal democracy is a pure fabrication.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:49 | 2980517 BKbroiler
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umm.... ever been there?  I think it's you who is kidding yourself.  They have orthodox neighborhoods just like we have dry counties, it doesn't define their country by a stretch.   Despite your gibberish, Israel is a westernized secular democracy.   I don't like their influence on the US, I don't like their religion, and I don't like their garb, but that doesn't change who they are and who they are not. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:04 | 2980593 BKbroiler
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oh yeah I forgot.  Every since Rush Limbaugh mentioned this site a few years back, I gotta deal with the army of redneck groupthinkers who are quick to junk and slow to retort.  Ok let me make sure I follow the new ZH rules:

Israel bad.  Islam bad.  Europe bad (except Germany). America good (except cities).  Gold good.  Silver good.  Obama bad.  Guns good.  Regulation bad.  Smart women and dark people bad.  Evolution bad. Creationism good.  Youth stupid and lazy.  Old white folks A-ok.   Hedgless Horseman for President.

so... are we cool again?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2980670 redpill
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you forgot to say bitchez.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:32 | 2980724 BKbroiler
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My bad, bitchez...   You know what I'm saying man, you've been here long enough. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:12 | 2980916 Thulsa Doom
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Yeah, lots of junking going on lately by nihilists posing as defenders of principle. Many are just contrarians, and contrarian nihilists cannot stand someone who speaks pragmatically.

But the democrats and republicans are the same just like the zionists and Islamists and everything is all controlled by Zionist bankers, right? We get the government we deserve, and that has real world consequences. The world is about to change, big time, and thanks for just saying it like it is.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:21 | 2980964 BKbroiler
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well put.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:21 | 2980971 Totentänzerlied
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Pragmatism is the enemy of ethical people and moral societies. It encourages people not to think.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:33 | 2981018 Taint Boil
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....groupthinkers who are quick to junk and slow to retort.

 

Junks don’t bother me but I do look at the up / down arrows to get a sense of what others think – Wal-Mart shoppers comes to mind. Maybe Zero Hedge needs to bring back the CAPTCHA

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:05 | 2980600 john39
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yeah, and voting in the United States matters....    and, correct me if I'm wrong... but wasn't the isreali prime minister Rabin assassinated by a religious fundamentalist not that long ago?  sounds really tolerant.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:13 | 2980628 BKbroiler
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yeah, and voting in the United States matters

 

it just did.   Ok, genius, so a good way to characterize a country is by the profile of the people who assasinate the leaders?  Is reason not your strong suit?  Should we examine the profile of Ruby and Hinkley to see who makes up America?  Yield the floor to someone else dude, you're making a fool of yourself.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:15 | 2980932 Thulsa Doom
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See? Nihilism. Because one nutcase acts like a nutcase it makes the whole country just as bad as the neighboring country actually run by nutcases. Contrarian nihilism.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:33 | 2981026 Totentänzerlied
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"so a good way to characterize a country is by the profile of the people who assasinate the leaders?"

When both are part of groups which have been actively at war for generations, gee, there just might be a connection.

"Should we examine the profile of Ruby and Hinkley to see who makes up America?"

Yes because somehow that's analogical to assassinations which are part of a war which is going on its 7th decade.

Last but not least:

""yeah, and voting in the United States matters"

it just did."

You are a credulous fool for suggesting that any US voting in the last 150 years has mattered in any way.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2980667 rich_wicks
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I'll tell you what defines their country.

An immigration policy that favors "Jews", exclusively.  A janitor, a criminal, a welfare recipient gets automatic citizenship to Israel over a Palestinian, a Christian or a Hindu PhD.

I live and work in Silicon Valley.  I know what a craphole that country is, because some of my collegues, who are not white, have had to go there.  They have trouble getting served at restaurants if they go alone.

Quit blowing this smoke up everybody's butt about how it's supposedly a secular western democracy.  Secular western democracies don't discriminate against any ethnic or religious group.  Ethiopians had their blood thrown away after donations there.  1/2 of the Jewish population think that marrying a non Jew is "treason".  They are a nation of lunatic racists.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:34 | 2980733 Ima anal sphincter
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+1000 Excellent!!!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:36 | 2980748 onebir
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If you think racism's an exclusively Israeli problem, you need to get out more. Try being black in parts of Asia for example...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:01 | 2980827 Zero Govt
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try being white in the West

one false word and you're toasted by the racial equailities goon squad whose sole target is 'whiteman'

95% of blacks vote for Bumma, not a problem, sweep it under the rug of investigation

i've friends of all colours, will continue to do so, but this hypocracy politicing needs a shot in the throat 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:17 | 2980948 rich_wicks
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"If you think racism's an exlucisvely Israeli problem"

Hey, stupid, what would make you think I believe that, since I didn't state it?  I hate it when people create a strawman argument.

Israel is INSTITUTIONALLY racist, like Apartheid South Africa was - you remember that government that Israel was allied with when the rest of the world had finally turned their back?  You know, the country Israel was trying to sell nuclear weapons to.  Don't you remember?

Gee, a nation created for Jews, run by Jews, for the benefit of Jews.  If that maybe a bit discriminatory you think?  That's what Zionism is, isn't it?  Would you care to define it in another way?

When white anglo saxon bigots were doing in the United States what Jews are currently doing in Israel, they called it the Klu Klux Klan.  Israel is NOT a western Democracy and it never was.  It's a group of mostly European bigot colonialists that have displaced the indigenous people and have been at war with them since 1948 in order to steal their land.

If you want me to talk about the Ottoman Land Act of 1858, I can.  Every stupid moron who supports Israel thinks the only reason other people don't is because they're ignorant.  The reality is that there are only 2 reasons to support Israel.  Currently the most common one is ignorance, but the one many people have is because they're plain old bigots and many of those bigots are trying spread bigotry as fast as they can, because with the Internet, it's more difficult to keep the masses ignorant.  Hence, Mooslims evil!!!  Well, the Muslims never had a genocide against the Jewish people, never started a crusade, they aren't invading Europe and the United States, or using drones there.

You people are the crazy ones.  You're the genocidal maniacs and that's the way Israel loves it, because they can get away with another decade of murder as long as this continues.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2980772 BKbroiler
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An immigration policy that favors "Jews"

in Isreal nonetheless, that's just crazy

I know what a craphole that country is because my collegues, who are not white, have had to go there

oh yeah, that is definetely a good basis for your opinion.   Did your "not white" friends tell you how they would treat them in the middle east?  or Europe?  or in the southern states of America, for that matter?  Not being white sucks everywhere, but again, it takes traveling to learn things like that.

Ethiopians had their blood thrown away after donations there.

Right, because I'm sure you'd be dying for some Ethiopian blood when you need a transfusion, the country with one of the highest AIDS populations in the world.

You failed.  At least you tried.  next.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:24 | 2980988 Thulsa Doom
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All you are doing is putting forward some pragmatic thoughts about the middle east. Contrarian nihilists hate that, posing as defenders of principle and condemning an entire nation because of a few little anecdotes. Equating being viewed skeptically and with discrimination, with people who look similar blowing themselves up in restaurants and thus causing that pragmatic discrimination. Equating favoring ones own tribe for immigration to the other tribe across the border indiscriminately firing rockets across the border. That's why it's nihilistic, because essentially the whole planet is corrupt, except for the world inside their minds.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:42 | 2981072 rich_wicks
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WTF is  contrarian Nihilist?

I don't know, but I must ascribe to some basicic stupid philosophy some moron made up though.  Everybody can be classified in a nice little package, right?

 

Either Republican or Democrat

Either Israel lover or or anti-Semite.

Love Israel or support terrorism.

 

The world is a little more complicated but many people never grow up.  They never realize it's more complicated than a bunch of false dichotomies presented to stupid people as a choice.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:30 | 2981626 Global Hunter
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WTF is  contrarian Nihilist?

They were the baddies in the Big Lebowski

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:44 | 2981084 Totentänzerlied
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You don't speak English do you? You're like the singer from Poison, you just sing the words on the lyric sheet and hope it sounds like real English, right?

I have not heard a more asinine and wrong portrayal of nihilism and pragmatism than yours. And how is it relevant to the terrorist state Israel, which through terroristic actions such as the very method by which it was established (theft, depopulation, forced relocation, war) has sown the wind and reaped the whirlwind in the form of retaliatory terrorism?

I don't care for a response, for like AnAnonymous you seem to have a single dialectical relation with which to define the entire world without ever actually saying anything about it - the interest is in how it is said and what is left unsaid. Calling everyone with whom you disagree a "nihilist" no matter how it is defined - even as bizarrely as you have attempted to do - has no rational force, it is fallacious argumentative rhetoric.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:36 | 2981365 Dugald
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"nihilist" he found the word in a Chinese Cookie.....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:37 | 2981374 rich_wicks
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You don't speak English do you?

Actually I do, but you keep going onto tangenets and bs.

I pointed out that the goal of Zionists for Israel is the same as the goal the KKK had for the United States.  Suddenly I become a label of some sort.

People like you don't respond to statements like that, because they are true.  Zionism is OBVIOUSLY racism.  When this is pointed out to a bigot, often they just go over into tangents and accuse me of mental illness or made up philosophies because you can't refute it.  They have identical goals.  Ethnic nationalism.  That's basically all it is.

Israel isn't a western democracy.  It's a hold over from colonialism, the last colony.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:25 | 2981594 DosZap
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Israel isn't a western democracy. It's a hold over from colonialism, the last colony.

It HAS to be, otherwise it becomes like the US.................hows that immigration thing worked for us?.

And how has it worked for the Frogs, and the UK?.

Do a Wiki look up on Zionism, your take, and theirs is not the same.

Not one thing wrong with Nationalism, unless your a Commie/Socialist,Liberal Dem.

Used to be, the USA was very Nationalistic..........in the good old days.NOW look at us, we have devolved SO far.....................

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:11 | 2981808 rich_wicks
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It HAS to be, otherwise it becomes like the US.................hows that immigration thing worked for us?.

Alaxander Bell was Scottish immigrant.

Tesla was a Croatian immigrant.

Einstein was a German immigrant

John Muir was a Scottish immigrant

Irving Berlin was a Russian immigrant

So, all in all, pretty awful I guess!!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:21 | 2981002 rich_wicks
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I know what a craphole that country is because my collegues, who are not white, have had to go there

oh yeah, that is definetely a good basis for your opinion.

 

It CERTAINLY is.

You really think I want to go to a nation that is as primitive as the United States South was in 1950?  REALLY?

How do you know if *I* am white?  You think I want to go to some fucking backward hick nation if I'm not or even if I am?  You think I ought to be "oh, gee whiz, it's just fine and dandy that a nation of people might fucking hate my guts, because I don't have the right skin color or stupid ass religion - they ARE a western Democracy right?  Golly, I ought to check out this dangerous ghetto of Jewish people just to be certain."

Hey, no thank you.  You can have your little stupid craphole in the desert, just leave me out of your insanity and quit getting my government to tax me for the privilege of keeping it alive.  I don't care what they do, just don't involve me or my nation in it.  It's going to go the way of Apartheid South Africa anyhow, it's just a question of how much damage they do along the way.

They're a group of freaking lunatic hypocritical nutcases.  They whine and moan about Iran's supposed nuclear weapons program, but do you ever hear mention of Mordechai Vanunu and Dimona?  When is that going to be inspected by the IAEA?  They cry and whine about terrorism and say "once a terrorist always a terrorist", what what about Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Rabin, the King David Hotel, the Sargeant's Affair, the murder of Count Bernadotte, the Irgun.

Gee, I must just be anti-Semitic not to be entirely uninformed, right, idiot?  That was what you'd be saying right about now if this was 1995.  Gee, being informed then meant you always were anti-Semitic when you talked about this subject honestly, or that was the accusation people like you would make just to shut you up.  Times sure have changed haven't they?  Shhhh!

I have a fairly good reason to judge that nation the way I do.  Quit assuming in your bigotted tiny freaking mind, that nobody knows what Israel has done, or what a group of stinking disgusting hypocrites they have become.  You don't have to be aware of the existence of GIYUS or Megaphone to see that the propaganda is breaking down finally.  You guys be as backward and bigotted as you like, but quit trying to make everybody as sad and as bigotted as you are.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:51 | 2980530 Diplodicus Rex
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"at least they are a secular"

That's not kosher

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:29 | 2981620 Think for yourself
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Good call. Israel is NaZi in exactly the same way as 1939 Germany, except this time, instead of being National Socialism for the Aryan "Master Race", it is National Zionism for the Jewish "Chosen People". Even if we assumed that Israel was legitimate at the time of its foundation (hint: it wasn't), functionally both of these ideologies decay through the same stages and ultimately reach the same unadulterated fascism.

This is not even an opinion. This is a honest-to-god fact, straight out of Israel's founding document: "[WE] HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL."

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:55 | 2980854 CrockettAlmanac.com
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It takes a psycopath to defend the asylum sometimes.  I am not a fan of Israel but at least they are a secular, westernized nation

 

Here's you're psychopath:

 

We killed Jesus, we're proud of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

 

Here's a few more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yigal_Amir

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/08/world/soldier-gets-life-term-in-dome-o...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:47 | 2981103 Totentänzerlied
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"We killed Jesus, we're proud of it"

How do you kill an idea?

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:23 | 2981844 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If nothing else, that guy knows how to kill a bottle of whatever rot gut they serve in Settlerstan.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 22:10 | 2982577 dugorama
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"They don't make Jews like Jesus anymore", Kinky Friedman, currently doing his Bipolar Tour.  I recommend it.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:31 | 2980406 NotApplicable
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The only thing restraining Israel is the banksters.

Eventually, both the Arab states and the Israeli state will collapse, just in time to usher in the globalist solution.

It's quite a simple trick really, divide, then conquer.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:52 | 2980491 falak pema
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the only thing restraining Israel is Saud and the oil tap...its what Pax Americana is about in ME. Israel is just a pimple compared to the oil conundrum. Templars who could be burnt in Paris, aka DC tomorrow, if it suited the west to ensure continuing oil monopoly. Keep the OIL flowing...is now what new Hallelujah is all about!

Its as simple as that! That's why shia Iran is more palatable to Saud than Sunni Gaza as expiatory victim to Israel's rage.

That is what the Oligarchy wants. A Templar state is an outpost, and it can be lost if it serves no purpose. We are not there...but...Remember the past. When the Templars were of no use the King and Pope, aka Potus AND the MArket, could pull the plug on them; 1307 AD PAris trial and later bonfire of Templars proves that. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:54 | 2980845 Karlus
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He who controls the spice, controls the universe. The spice must flow.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:47 | 2980507 CPL
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This will already feed an already poorly managed situation in Europe.  Religion isn't a meme.  It's a shadow army.  In the case of Islam, honour is gained from it's followers in destroying themselves for the sake of a headline.  What happens when the full arsenal of Europe is at Islam's disposal?  Or the other option which has gained ground, Nazies.  Purest form of communist statist bullshit wrapped in garbage science as an ignorant man's replacement for faith.  Neither option is appealing and one or the other will conquer Europe permanently.

 

Restraint is now a dirty word isn't it?   Good luck to them all, they are on their own and will cry for the dead.  Anyone that has served and been deployed can tell you that.  Nothing as messy as a man dying.  Metals, bullets and tanks count for nothing when you are bleeding out covered in your own shit and hoping to remember your mother's face.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:08 | 2980610 dark pools of soros
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Israel will bulldozer the pyramids to build a bagel factory - chosen is what chosen wants

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:02 | 2980828 SgtShaftoe
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That was 1967.  This is not 1967.  Now egypt is fully fielded with US armaments, M1 Tanks, F16s, Anti-Aircraft etc. and most of their officers have been US trained, at the School of the Americas and during US led Bright Star excercises.   From an equipment level the field is closeish to equal with a slight Israeli advantage.  The command and troop education and training also has a similar small edge to Israel.  Complicated with a multi-front field of battle, that advantage disappears.  Israel had better get right with their fellow human beings, and attempt to make some real peace, or they are fucked.

 

Egypt has 1,130 M1 Abrams tanks, 1,700 upgraded US M60 tanks, 240 F16s, a few dozen Mirage V, Mirage 2000s and MIG 21s, 50 Apache Attack helicopters, and a bunch of other fun stuff. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:49 | 2981434 Dugald
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Its not so much what you have got, it's having the guts and fortitude to use it...aye, there's the rub

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 23:44 | 2982913 mjcOH1
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"Egypt has 1,130 M1 Abrams tanks, 1,700 upgraded US M60 tanks, 240 F16s, a few dozen Mirage V, Mirage 2000s and MIG 21s, 50 Apache Attack helicopters, and a bunch of other fun stuff. "

And luckily for the Egyptians, they can count on the Soviet Union to continue supplying life-limited parts for that equipment, and cycling them through regularly scheduled depot maintenance as they continue their struggle against the Great Satan.

Or something like that......

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:36 | 2982013 Canucklehead
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Look, there officers don't sleep at the Holiday Inn Express.  Their officers don't eat at the Holiday Inn Express.  Their wives don't work at the Holiday Inn Express.

If you want to talk about numbers... dem the numbers...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:26 | 2980370 CPL
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The pinks don't understand that this will not go according to any plan they've got on paper or completely understand the real costs.  It'll end in tears for everyone involved and speed up timetables on other problems.  Israeli options are limited now to a binary choice.  Do or die.  Once they are done with Hamas and Egypt, they'll have to deal with either the Islamic republic of Europe or the Fourth Reich of Europe.

 

I understand nukes are available in Europe once either political/religious movement seizes control of Belgium and starts to dictate terms.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:38 | 2980456 El Tuco
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The Zionists own both...come on you know who runs the country...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:38 | 2980458 aint no fortuna...
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nah, Jews and every large corporation in america know obama's a pushover compared to romney

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:05 | 2981194 Freewheelin Franklin
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I thought the Jews wanted Romney.

 

That would only have slightly changed the procedure.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:33 | 2981873 DaveyJones
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yes, the steel density in the hummers

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:32 | 2981633 akak
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I thought the Jews wanted Romney.

You can't always get what you want

You can't always get what you want

You can't always get what you want

But if you try sometimes, you just might find

You get what you need.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2980308 Badabing
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Isn’t it amazing !

Make no mistake, this is all orchestrated.

Brought  to you by your PTB  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:36 | 2980440 NotApplicable
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Today WWIII was officially kicked off with the "Tweet heard 'round the world."

So... how long until ALL nation states are hollowed out? Ten years?

All of those people thinking Israel is going to come out ahead in this game, are sure going to be surprised.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:36 | 2980438 Uncle Remus
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Why that's....cynical. Yeah, that's it...cynical.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:20 | 2980666 Metalredneck
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And you all were betting on Iran...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2980673 Poundsand
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Please... Enduring America's analysis includes this gem?  Clearly, "Arab Spring" was, if nothing else, a referendum on human rights.  You have got to be kidding me, the Arab spring has nothing to do with human rights and everything to do with the Muslim Brotherhood and their march towards the caliphate. It was everything but a referendum on human rights!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:53 | 2981128 Totentänzerlied
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If by Muslim Brotherhood you mean the patsies and stooges of the House of Saud and the emirs of the Gulf, in cooperation with Israel, the US, Britain, and France. You the players but do not realize they are puppets.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:29 | 2982208 Buck Johnson
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Everything is happening right after the elections.  The markets ar tanking, information that the US and the rest of the world is going into a recession aka never left it, and employment data is horrible.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980294 Stackers
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Does this mean Egypt is finally going to lift its embargo on food, fuel and building supplies into Gaza and tear down the 30' tall wall they built along their border with Gaza now ? Or just continue to use the Palestinians as a convient political proxy dog like the rest of their "arab brothers" ???

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2980396 BKbroiler
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Egypt knows damn well they don't want that wall to come down and turn Egypt into the next Palestine. Give the brotherhood a year and they'll be destroying the sphynx as a "false idol", put secularized Egyptian women back a few hundred years, and lose all foreign investment.    Every woman who isn't tied to a camel and every citizen with a half a brain will leave immediately.   Israel should go it alone, they're big boys and can handle themeselves.  Who would stop them?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:04 | 2980875 DaveyJones
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Having problems with your particular brand of objectivity. You go to great lengths to defend Israels democratic diversity and well meaning government then paint the reamaining entire middle eastern people with one faithcentric, backward brush.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2980919 BKbroiler
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Maybe I should clarify.  I think Judaism and Islam are both nonsense, just like all religions.  Jewish nonsense just happens to be a little less... prehistoric shall we say, so I tend to favor their approach and understand their culture as it is more similar to my own.  I think the US should leave that whole region alone to blow itself up, but given our need for their resources and the realities of being the world's lone superpower and having to make geopolitical alliances, we have to choose sides.  I favor those who are least likely to blow themselves up in an airplane, but I do not support the involvement of Isreal in American affairs.  They are the lesser of two evils and nothing more to me.  Hope that helps.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:56 | 2981145 Totentänzerlied
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"given our need for their resources and the realities of being the world's lone superpower and having to make geopolitical alliances, we have to choose sides."

Another US apologist. How do you type with so much blood on your hands?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:28 | 2981862 DaveyJones
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Well said. That's what they call a Freudian Slip or, as you point out, a confession. It's imperialism talking. And he wonders why so many of them are pissed off. 

I love how being "the world's lone superpower"  with a "need for their resources" makes this:

rational

moral

legal

intelligent

and productive

A drug addict has a "need for [others] resources

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:01 | 2982089 BKbroiler
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Davey, you are living in a fantasy world.  We ARE the superpower.  We DO need their resources.  Whether this rational, moral, etc is a different question.  I'm an apologist? for who?  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:44 | 2982250 DaveyJones
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I confess I have a thing for principles. I blame my mother. But the bigger fantasy is believing (1) this "superpower" is not on its way out (2) is not its own worst enemy (3) that a military is your only weapon, and (4) that the world is not a faster place.    

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:41 | 2980471 aint no fortuna...
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egypt knows there's a diference in saying rather than actually DOING... rhetoric is cheap (look at our own pols)

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980289 mick68
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Masks being removed.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:29 | 2980713 zdk45
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I pondered, at the conclusion of this report, whether or not in the annals of military history, any general, on this great land or any other, has ever successfully utilized the prase "going full retard"... and if not, 'twould be a shame...a shame...

 

And...briefly, I'd like to use this exciting moment (and/or cluster f*@$% of moments of late):This being The Kick-off to WWIII!, of course, to give my thanks to zh and the lot.  I deplore shallow sentimentaiity, yet, as the world as we know it starts to wind down, I'm thinking, what the hell. I may even tell my family I love them out of the blue as well...,,,historic times, amigo, historic times  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:14 | 2982138 Who is John Galt
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Israel is a terrorist state and needs to be disolved.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:10 | 2980267 Randall Cabot
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Goodbye israel, we hardly knew you!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2980302 Vigilante
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Good bye Egypt I say...

A hungry giant with cracked glass legs

You, anti-Israel bitches, should learn from biblical history

Israel never loses ........her enemies will perish once again.

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2980312 walküre
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they lost before, read the book again.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:26 | 2980367 john39
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pretty convenient that book...   evil is ok, because 'g-d' said so...   because some animals are more equal than others...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:54 | 2980835 Vigilante
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Exactly.....Israel was never about 'justice'.

Even the land of Canaan was occupied by others when they first set foot on it.

Where are these nations...where are their languages....gone with the wind.

Israel's legitimacy is biblical...nothing else..

I kow the atheists/secularists have a problem with this..

..but they have a problem with everything really..

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:04 | 2980888 Pseudo Anonym
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israel and bible

Israel's legitimacy is biblical

help me.  i cannot reconcile those two.  who wrote the bible again?  men?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuFasxh3P0

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:32 | 2982003 Canucklehead
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What are the odds if a couple of women were writing the bible that they would get in a cat-fight over Jesus?  That kind of defeats the whole purpose of writing the bible...

As Randy Travis says... Old men talk about the weather.  Old women talk about old men.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:34 | 2980423 SemperFord
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Actually they are what I refer to government workers, glorified welfare queens. They never had the cojones to fight to stay in their land, they had to be helped by other governments to find a place for them, how fucking lame.

Any people with Honor will fight the fight.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:38 | 2980454 falak pema
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there is a vigilante noose waiting for you in the bible, annexe 321, chapter 29, aliena 345. Its all preordained didn't ya kno? 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:47 | 2980500 resurger
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you mad bro?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:10 | 2980627 Pseudo Anonym
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what biblical history?

You, anti-Israel bitches, should learn from biblical history

the biblical history that was written by men?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuFasxh3P0

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:23 | 2980980 Rat Patrol
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So, you are saying the Koran is horseshit because it was written by men?

Man, are you brave. Christians might bake a caserole and have a bake sale to protest, but those muz will kill your shit for saying things like that.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:58 | 2981158 Totentänzerlied
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So we have to kill them - men, women, infants - before they kill us!

Thanks Dick Cheney, any more pearls for us?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2980353 Rat Patrol
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Two words: Javelin missle.

The slaughter of Egyptian tanks would be epic. Can't wait for the utube video.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:35 | 2980737 Joseph Jones
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I remember somenoe decades ago threatening to break up.  My reply: "Promises, promises..."

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:12 | 2980271 blunderdog
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Isn't it a bit late for an October Surprise?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:12 | 2980272 BBullionaire
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how about a no fly zone swiftly followed by a humanitarian intervention on those israelis?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:12 | 2980275 ekm
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It seems to me all is going as per plan.

They will do anything possible at this point to flood the market with the crude oil that has been stored offshore. I guess there's no more space to put it.

 

Oil would have a 'risk' of spiking due to Israel Hamas war, hence unload the crude oil tankers.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:14 | 2980281 zilverreiger
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chase all those zionists into the dead sea, fat bibi toad and john mccain first

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:28 | 2980712 onebir
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Been taking your Westerling lessons, Orangeman?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:13 | 2980282 Dr. Engali
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I'm beginning to wonder if 12/21 might actually have some meaning to it. Self fullfilling or not  events  sure are timely.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:31 | 2980404 Temporis
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Amen to that. So odd how things are escalating the closer it gets to that date.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:40 | 2980469 NotApplicable
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Never underestimate the power of a self-fulfilling prophecy (because they ALL are).

Welcome to the Great Unraveling.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:13 | 2980284 JPM Hater001
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Can anyone say Pakistan?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2980306 unrulian
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Pakistan

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:58 | 2980572 Uncle Remus
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Peh  uhhh  Pay  uhhh Perk

Oh hell. India.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:13 | 2980285 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We would all accomplish shunning them if we started refering to them as Jizrael.

We don't need war, we just need to embarress them.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:14 | 2980287 10mm
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Any time frame for gas over 4 bucks.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2980319 Kreditanstalt
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The sooner the better...we can cut the stupid "summer driving season" off at the knees...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:28 | 2981998 Canucklehead
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I'm thinking early 2015.  Left to chance, the economies will slow and prices stall.

I don't expect this IDF-Hamas Love Tap will cause any great movement in prices.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:14 | 2980288 spine001
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I wish the situation was as easy as you guys/gals describe it. Sadly for all involved it is a LOT, a whole LOT more complicated and potentially deadly

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:39 | 2981383 mayavision2012
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Just got more complicated.  This is insane.

(Quote)

BBC foreign editor Jon Williams writes that a son of a colleague has been killed in Gaza.

Jon Williams
  • ?

@WilliamsJon

11 month old son of BBC colleague killed in . Sister-in-law killed, brother critically injured. Civilians always casualties of conflict

(Unquote)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/nov/14/middle-east...

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980290 lindaamick
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Good for Eqypt.  I hope they follow through.

The Gazans are caged like animals with limited access to food and all other forms of sustenance. 

Additionally, the Gazans are subject at any moment to attacks which in and of itself is a terrible form of torture.

The situation is a human rights issue.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:19 | 2980318 Vigilante
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Israel is just responding to hundrds of home made rockets that have been raining in Southern Isreal for several days.....

Unless you've been living under a rock..

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:37 | 2980448 Uncle Remus
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You typed that with a straight face didn't you...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:19 | 2980663 Jim in MN
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No, gorilla face

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:58 | 2980813 DaveyJones
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I thought you were on this site because you don't trust major media? 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:30 | 2981863 darteaus
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Sorry, but Cartman rules on this site for this subject.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-c-xc24C8g

 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:26 | 2980334 xtop23
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"It's a human rights issue."  I feel certain that a statement eerily similar will be coming out of Cankles Clinton's wang warmer at any moment.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:28 | 2981861 darteaus
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"The [Israelis] are caged like animals with limited access to food and all other forms of sustenance. 

Additionally, the [Israelis] are subject at any moment to attacks which in and of itself is a terrible form of torture.

The situation is a human rights issue."

 

Fixed it for ya!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980291 falak pema
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Pax Americana ME cement cracking before our eyes.

Is this the fall out of Benghazi cum Petraeus caper biting back the US MIC arse?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980293 swissaustrian
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BLOWBACK, bitchez! Now as Muhbarak is out, the US can't call up their puppet in Cairo and force him to shut down.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:36 | 2980427 Rat Patrol
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Yes, we can. If we cut off aid Egypt would starve to death. That is why Morsi will kiss our ass regardless of what he spews for "internal consumption."

 

Get a grip.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:22 | 2980676 Jim in MN
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Is that a 'known known'?

 

Are you SURE? 

 

Wanna bet?

 

Your life?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:27 | 2980709 Rat Patrol
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What do I win, when I win?

I could go over and stand on the border, and my only danger would be being raped by bedouins.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:54 | 2980839 Uncle Remus
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Lawrence, is that you?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:27 | 2980702 Joseph Jones
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"Muslim Spring" is the term invented by Rabbi-owned western MSM. Real definition: we (the common Muslim) Egyptians starve to death anyway, so we loose nothing and can only gain by burning down the state of Egypt, which is exactly what happened.

So if the above is true, and it most certainly is (my friend is Egyptian national, born, raised in lives in Egypt, gave me first hand reports), then your post if false.  Why?  Because it implies we earlier gave enough aid to keep Egypt from burning the place down, which is false per recent history.  

Again, the common Egyptian Muslim sees about 99.9% only evil coming to them regarding the USA's illegal marriage to Judaism (ie. the "Jewish" religious nation of Israel).

I believe only in non-human violence, even for self defense.  Still, I'd not complain if they outlawed each and every form of "organized religion" in the USA, starting first with Judaism and it's sister, "evangelical Chrisitianity."  I'd not complain if they gave "pastors" and "Rabbis" the simple choice to renounce their organized sacralism in writing or hard prison time till they "repented."  Frankly, till such laws arrive, we're completely screwed.          

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:34 | 2980717 Rat Patrol
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Then quit taking our money. See what happens.

I dare ya.

 

And do college students buy your silly crap? Only one religion is currently cutting off people's heads, or cucifying them. It ain't Christianity. There is no moral equivalence and to say there is is they height of hypocrisy.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:55 | 2980849 Uncle Remus
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Then there's metaphors...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:43 | 2981691 Joseph Jones
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What is now known in the west as "Chrisitianty" is the moral equivalent of Judaism.  Text in the wedding bulletin of a so-called "Christian wedding" I attended this summer, written by a self-proclaimed "evangelical Christian," "minister," and "holy man of God" (the groom): "Christianity is essentially Jewish."  I asked this liar, who loudly promotes "Jewish culture, "Is there culture in the Kingdom of God?"  He replied, "There is culture in the Kingdom of God." 

He lies.  The NT states:

"The Kingdom of God is within you."

"A time comes when you will no longer worship (Gk. proskuneo, pro-skew-NAY-oh) on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.  God is Spirit." (not Judaic flesh)

"A Jerusalem not built with hands."

Prior to Paul of Tarsus labeling himself as a fleshly "Hebrew" he states he puts "no confidence in the flesh."  Conversely, "Jews" and their slavish evangelical Christian sycophants state "Jews" are saved by race, by genetic DNA.  Then Paul equates his fleshly Hebrew DNA as "dung" (Philipians Ch. 3:1-).  Jesus called the Hebrew Pharisees a "brood (spiritual offspring) of vipers."  It was a serpent who fooled Eve.   

All this matters for naught anyway.  The Mosaic and Levitical Law all left this earth forever in 70 AD when God destroyed the last temple.  Any male who self-identifies as a "Jew:"  God commands you to visit the temple twice (or was it thrice) each calendar year.  What dates did you visit last year?  See Deuteronomy Ch. 28 for your well-earned punishment, which is death.

There is no salvation except that of grace through God, even for Jews.  Jews are not the self-identified "chosenites" they say they are. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:24 | 2981985 Canucklehead
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Look, it's pretty obvious the way the Middle East devours their own that the God of Abraham has decided that Mohammed was a screw-up.  God gave Mohammed a message 1,350+ years ago and it still hasn't sunk into his followers.

Talk about dense.  It's time to take the messenger to task.

The followers need to get onboard the next train out of looneytown.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980295 Kreditanstalt
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Let's hope the Egyptians MEAN it this time - and hopefully too they've coordinated other Muslimist allies. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:15 | 2980296 spine001
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By the way, I am really happy that Homer (me) is in control of the nuclear power station! Feel safe? Hahahahaha

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2980298 Kaiser Sousa
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truly amazing how the zionist entity so dutifully excellerates its own enevitable destruction...

the world will be so much better off when it is destroyed...

keep at it...it came come soon enough....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:37 | 2980455 johnnymustardseed
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You think that they would be nice to people after the whole Hitler thing. But, they have become that monster

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:59 | 2980520 Joseph Jones
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The Rabbis insist, to this day, Hitler did God's work killing the Jews because those Jews turned agasinst the Rabbis.

The Talmud includes the death penalty for ignoring a Rabbi, including Jews who deny Rabbis. 

Jews (especially those who may die in a Rabbi-induced nuclear holocaust) suffer under the Rabbis just as the rest of the world.   I don't know for certain, as the Rabbi-owned MSM states, there is a Muslim law inflicting death on someone leaving Islam.  I do know for certain the Rabbis have a death penalty for turning agasint Rabbis.  A Jew must face the fear of this penalty if they turn against Judaism.  

You can read these threats between the lines in the posts here by Judaism supporters and Judaism sycophants.  Look at their direct threats of violence, all centered on this worship of the land of Israel and its people the "chosenites."  These are direct and indirect death threats against anyone and everyone who does not genuflect to Rabbinical tyranny. 

The Talmud also includes the death penalty for reading the Talmud if you are against the Rabbis and against the Talmud.

There's all kinds of purely racist laws in the Talmud such as prohibition for a Jew to shake a gentile hand and Jewish medical doctors may not treat a gentile on the Sabbath.

As always though, the Talmud includes escape clauses: For each of the these racist, illegal, bigotted laws, they are allowed to ignore the law and the law is not enforced.  For instance, Jewish doctors treat gentiles in the USA on the Sabbath.  Jew Joe Lieberman shakes all kind of gentile hands.

How do they justify their law breaking?  Simple: the Talmud states the law is to be ignored if/while Jews would suffer by obeying the law.  Of course, today, even though Jews own the west, gentiles would inflice pain and suffering on Jews if Jews enforced the Talmud.  They can't enforce every racist law..................................yet.

The Talmud, written by Pharisaical lawyers (remember Clinton: "It depends what the meaning of 'is' is") always has escape clause.

Once the Rabbis have the entire western world fully enslaved and existing only to serve Rabbis, all bets off if you need Jewish MD help on Saturday...you die, sorry you stupid gentile. 

Michael Hoffman's definition of Judaism: "The worship of the Judaic male as God."

The Talmud states that God lost his debate/argument with the Rabbis.  God now reads the Talmud to obey what the Rabbis tell him to do. 

This is the racist bigotry of Judaism, the unholy and man-hating religion of Babylon mysticsm.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:46 | 2980795 Prometheus the ...
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  Let us say for the sake of entertainment that there existed a being that was filled with hate and aggression. This being wanted with an all consuming passion to destroy the human race. The only thing it lived for was to do harm. Call it a demon, the devil, Satan, call it whatever you want. The demon formulated a plan. It went to a tribe of ignorant people and said, "I am God and you are my chosen people. God is on your side and those other tribes are merely animals. Go forth and steal their land and livestock, kill their men, rape and enslave their women. I your god command it for you are my chosen people and God is on your side.

   Then the demon went on to other tribes and other men and said. " You are the prophet, you are the chosen one, I command you to kill the heathens and infidels. You are the chosen ones and God is on your side."    The demon would teach his tribe to make war by way of deception. The demon would teach the tribe to steal vast wealth by way of usury until bankers could pull the strings of puppet kings and presidents. Any amount of theft and murder are justified because you are the chosen ones and God is on your side.     Empires were built on lies, usury and violence. The humans would make greater and greater weapons to destroy millions and maybe even most life on the planet. The silly humans would never question the demon, because they had faith, they were the chosen ones and God was on their side.
Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2980301 Zen Bernanke
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wonder why the muslim brotherhood doesn't throw down the gauntlet when obama waxes a taliban leader?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:19 | 2980315 darteaus
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When all the cockroaches come out of the woodwork screaming after you take out a rat - you know you got the right guy.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:19 | 2980316 catacl1sm
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I say just let them fight it out. Until someone becomes the alpha dog, the back biting will continue.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:19 | 2980317 cherry picker
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What  is the Nobel Peace Prize Teleprompter and his "johns" going to do now?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2980320 Debtless
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12/21/12...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2980352 unrulian
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by the greek calendar it is 16/21/12

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2980326 virgilcaine
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Stay short equity my friends..Long vol.

vc

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:21 | 2980330 Overfed
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But....how do we blame this on Iran?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:21 | 2980333 bigkansas
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Muslims, who gives a shit. Dirty religon - dirty people.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 13:25 | 2980363 Vigilante
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Oh...the liberals give a shit....

..in case you haven't noticed.....

The unholy alliance of our time.....Mozzies and libtards

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