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Ron Paul's Farewell To Congress - Live Webcast

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Representative Ron Paul gets his opportunity to say farewell - providing a compendium of reality and liberty for all that choose to listen.. He begins: "My goals in 1976 were the same as they are today: to promote peace and prosperity by a strict adherence to the principles of individual liberty" and goes on..."economic ignorance is common place, as the failed policies of Keynesianism are continually promoted"... "psychopathic totalitarians endorse government initiatives to change our world" - live webcast

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Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:35 | 2981037 Dr. Richard Head
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You will be missed good sir. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:38 | 2981051 redpill
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'Truth is treason in an empire of lies'

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:46 | 2981093 Skateboarder
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More laws are in season in an empire that dies?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:49 | 2981112 chumbawamba
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Fuck this Rosicrucian in his old man disguise.

He threw the election for a man we despise.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:51 | 2981119 Ident 7777 economy
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+1 (I think ...)

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:53 | 2981137 Michaelwiseguy
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"I will steal the majority of peoples money, wealth, and ability to prosper by owning the money supply and making the monetary rules myself." - Dr. Evil

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:58 | 2981152 Ident 7777 economy
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MWG 'The Thinker' checks in with a movie (pop culture) quote?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:03 | 2981169 MillionDollarBonus_
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Ron Paul should never have been allowed to run as a presidential candidate. His extreme views on economics and foreign policy made a mockery of the presidential race. His embarrassing senile interjections during the debates were cringe worthy and detracted from the serious nature of the topics that were discussed. His clownish presence in the presidential race and in American politics has left a stain on our democratic process and has undermined our sense of national pride. Mr has legitimized a group of extreme right-wingers and conspiracy theorists that should never have received any media attention. Insane ideas like abolishing the Federal Reserve Bank or ending the war on terror have now become mainstreamed, emboldening ignorant libertarians youths to disrupt the political discourse of this country with radical and alarming ideas that threaten core American values. I hope for the sake of decency and morality that Ron Paul retires from political discourse for good so that he can no longer undermine the professionalism and integrity of our political process.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:07 | 2981199 no taste
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MDB, I guess you weren't watching TPTB-media, Ron Paul did not run for president.  Instead we were allowed the very significant choice between more of the same and more of the same.  Americans considered this issue deeply and decided on more of the same.

See the linked graphs for an explanation.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:31 | 2981313 bobola
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Ron Paul should have been the GOP presidential candidate. His common sense views on economics and foreign policy make a mockery of the power brokers in DC.  His interjections during the debates were spot-on.  His presence in the presidential race and in American politics has left a lasting impression on our flawed democratic process and has been (hopefully) gotten the attention of the uninformed masses.  Mr. Paul has fired up the libertarians who understand the real need for change in this country.  Unfortunately he garners little media attention because the 99% uninformed who are glued to their massive flat screen TV's are fed a constant barrage of idiotic programming that is rapidly sapping any semblance of intelligence in the masses who are glued to electronic screens.  Non-mainstream ideas like abolishing the Federal Reserve Bank or ending the war on terror have now become commom-place in the libertarian youth movement which will hopefully disrupt the political discourse of this country and get the 99% uninformed off their couches and away from their bags of fast food long enough to actually do something constructive to save what we have before the ruling classes own everything.  I hope for the sake of decency and morality that Ron Paul inflames the need for political discourse in the youth in this country so that real change can begin befor its too late.  

What he reallly meant to say..........

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:36 | 2981366 notbot
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How emblematic that, at the exact same time as this, Obama's was having his first press conference of his new term.

The sun is setting. Sad day.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:57 | 2981469 Atlas_shrugging
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One of our Atlases has shrugged today.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:51 | 2981715 Enslavethechild...
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Ron Paul

One good man against a tsunami of evil Politician-Bankers

The American people didn't have the intelligence to listen to him, they were watching the Kardashians or some...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:10 | 2981946 fourchan
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he should have taken his tim talking, too rushed.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:17 | 2981558 infotechsailor
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bobola.. +1

how can anyone listen to Ron Paul next to the other candidates and not immediately share his libertarian passion and frustration with the status quo.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:13 | 2981236 Let them all fail
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"Insane ideas like abolishing the Federal Reserve Bank or ending the war on terror have now become mainstreamed" I assume this is sarcastic?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:47 | 2981697 smiler03
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You've been on ZH for more than three years? Amazing perception you have.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:18 | 2981261 slackrabbit
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Hi Mr Rove, you still your daddies biatch?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:26 | 2981303 SilverIsKing
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MDB for President

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:44 | 2981408 jimod
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Fixed it for you

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:52 | 2981718 Cathartes Aura
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no, you fixed it for you.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:14 | 2981542 Liquid Courage
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Insane ideas like creating a Federal Reserve Bank or starting wars everywhere have now become mainstreamed, emboldening ignorant generations to disrupt the political discourse of this country with radical and alarming ideas that threaten the core American values of individual Liberty and peaceful commerce with all nations.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:35 | 2981651 sherryw
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MDB, maybe I am one of the few that really appreciates your very dry sense of humour!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:26 | 2981855 tbone654
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don't think you own "decency and morality" over Ron Paul...  Your cause is to destroy liberty and hiding behind those two as your position is PRICELESS...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:20 | 2982147 EscapingProgress
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I imagine MDB just giggles like a little school girl in nothing but his underpants while he types these clearly humorous diatribes.

tehe tehe tehehehehehehe professionalism and integrity of our political process tehehehehehee!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 22:12 | 2982584 Ctrl_P
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But, but MDB, you say this like it's a bad thing?!

Green arrowed you too btw, always good for the laughs.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 08:28 | 2983445 Ar-Pharazôn
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i'll gladly pay to see MDB account get hacked and then shut down

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:02 | 2981174 no taste
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Chumbawamba, don't blame Ron for what was Karl Rove's masterpiece.

Karl Rove is a failure in every language.  Let the world know.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:06 | 2981200 Ident 7777 economy
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Did Karl Rove ever lose a presidential election?


I didn't think so ...



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:09 | 2981218 no taste
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Oh mon ami, tu es stupide.  Quelle surprise. Il a Karl Roved l'élection.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:12 | 2981226 Ident 7777 economy
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WHICH U.S. presidential election again?



(You don't mean to say that Rove ran this last election, DO YOU?)




Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:16 | 2981244 no taste
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Karl, vous n'essayez pas de réécrire l'histoire?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:16 | 2981253 Ident 7777 economy
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" Karl, vous n'essayez pas de réécrire l'histoire vous? "




Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:23 | 2981291 no taste
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Le monde entier sait Karl Rove est un échec.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:31 | 2981330's picture

Ident 777, do you still believe that only idiots doubt the Romney landslide?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:33 | 2981340 old naughty
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One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:11 | 2981229 BLOTTO
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Lied to...

For years...decades....centuries.


I dont trust ANY of the fucks on the illuminati controlled mass media. The end.


Its not so much RP - as it is how many time....over 

and over and over and over and over...

and over again with the lies, perversions....

Thats what ive turned into - they made me this way.


Now all of a sudden - he was our Saviour? You kidding me...

I would dissect and scrutinize him EVEN more now to get to the truth.




Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:15 | 2981242 Ident 7777 economy
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"... illuminati controlled mass media. "


CT (conspiracy theorist) ... probably believes in tooth fairy and votes democratic ...







"Conspiracy Theories are the favored tools of the weak minded."



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:24 | 2981298 Michaelwiseguy
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UN Agenda 21 ICLEI Sustainability Government Offices are located in almost every county in the USA. How is it that you can say this is a conspiracy theory? Or is your IQ just too low to comprehend this fact?

Find your local UN ICLEI office hear, pay them a visit, and get some video proving they exist;




Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:34 | 2981339 Ident 7777 economy
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" UN Agenda 21 ICLEI Sustainability Government Offices a "


More one-world government stuff.




The 'Birchers' (not birthers) were WAY ahead of you on this.


You're just another example of the latest in a line of un-educated (or minimally educated), self-styled conspiracy theorists looking for attention and fame ...


There used to be a name for that ... oh yeah: 'attention whore'. It seems to have fallen out of use lately though ... probably not PC enough.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:18 | 2981568 Lore
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I've tried arguing with some local ICLEI types.  You can't.  They're nuts. 

Why is it so difficult for sleepers to grasp that environmentalism is merely another vehicle for manipulation?  That "Global Warming" is just another False Flag?


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:00 | 2981748 Michaelwiseguy
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They use psychological mind control on people to get what they want. Carefully chosen words and phrases are used to get you to do things that brings harm to you.

It’s a form of psychological manipulation, hidden meanings and hidden agendas contained within simple words and phrases. Many UN program agendas are labeled with comforting sounding names to get us to do what they want, especially when it’s not really good for us. In Agenda 21, the words “Climate Change”, "Sustainable Development", and "Smart Growth" are mind tricks.

The words “Climate Change”, are simply a Dialectic Mind Freek Magic Trick Word Game they’re Playing on us.

dialectic (Merriam-Webster)
1: logic 1a(1)

2: a: discussion and reasoning by dialogue as a method of intellectual investigation; specifically : the Socratic techniques of exposing false beliefs and eliciting truth

b: the Platonic investigation of the eternal ideas

3: the logic of fallacy

4: a: the Hegelian process of change in which a concept or its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite; also : the critical investigation of this process

b: (1) usually plural but singular or plural in construction : development through the stages of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis in accordance with the laws of dialectical materialism (2) : the investigation of this process (3) : the theoretical application of this process especially in the social sciences

5: usually plural but singular or plural in construction

a: any systematic reasoning, exposition, or argument that juxtaposes opposed or contradictory ideas and usually seeks to resolve their conflict

b: an intellectual exchange of ideas

6: the dialectical tension or opposition between two interacting forces or elements


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:25 | 2981991 whstlblwr
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You mean like "Wise Use Movement" You guys know all the tricks. Who came up with Healthy Forest Initiative? How much money do you get from the oil company to post this shit?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:35 | 2982011 Michaelwiseguy
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I get a $2 million dollar bonus from the Coke Bros each year.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:27 | 2981304 BLOTTO
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Ident is asleep and not capable of independent thinking

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:29 | 2981321 Ident 7777 economy
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The CT's (conspiracy theorists) are crawling out of the woodwork today.


Thanks for self-identifying ...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:42 | 2981401 Bay of Pigs
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No troll, I think we got you pegged pretty good now.

Thanks for clearing that up.


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:45 | 2981414 Ident 7777 economy
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Another CT? (Not 'et' ... CT.)

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:53 | 2981449 backseatdriver
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Spalding that you?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:57 | 2981468 akak
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"Only $5 to dig from the ground!"

Oh wait, my mistake --- that was the other guy.
So hard to keep all the ZH trolls straight.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:32 | 2981638 sherryw
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If you don't believe in conspiracies you've never been on the committee of a local commmunity organisation.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:50 | 2982039 SafelyGraze
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grandma caught me watching the RP video in her basement.

she asked why anyone would listen to an old skinny white man who isn't even a very good speaker and who sounds like he's whining and has trouble getting to his main point and who who says "clift" instead of "cliff" and who hasn't accomplished much in 35 years and who is against almost every bill and who is a closet rosicrucian or freemason agent of european bankers.

then she asked me how come I couldn't get a job.

but bless her heart -- if it weren't for ss and medicare, she'd be living in *my* basement listening to RP.

with the volume way up

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 23:04 | 2982713 Radical Marijuana
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Dear Trolls, like Ident7777economy, thank you for tickling my macabre sense of humour!

Failure to understand that most of history has been due to conspiracies of frauds backed by force is a clear sign of having a weak mind. The whole of human history has been a grand conspiracy of lies, backed by violence. I tend to regard that the same ways as I do arguing about evolution based on "intelligent design." One does not need any master designer to see that that energy always goes down the local paths of least resistance, which is that fraud and robbery are the easiest way to make money, and accumulate wealth, especially the bigger a scale that is done on. No other gang of criminals does that better than the biggest gangsters, the banksters! It is plainly obvious that those who gained the power to control the money supply were then able to buy up control over the mass media, in order to make sure that their puppet politicians would continue to be their puppets. It IS all one integrated system, although there never had to be any one Supreme Puppet Master, there is no doubt that there were level after level of puppet masters, pulling the strings that went through and through the social system.

It amuses me to attempt to wonder what an idiotic troll like Ident7777economy actually thinks!

It does NOT matter who they are, or what labels one gives them, the obvious social facts are that there is a tiny minority of the population who get to legally counterfeit money, while the overwhelming vast majority are not allowed to do that! It is relatively easy to study the history of how that situation gradually developed. It is plainly obvious that there was wave after wave of developments, all based on energy going down its local paths of least resistance, where being dishonest and violent worked well, then and there. That has always been the driving imperative of militarism, since it did not matter how much better your longer term view MIGHT have been, if you ended up being murdered first.

Every single aspect of our social system is an expression of that. Since science and technology did things like understand atomic energy, and crack the DNA code, etc., all of those trends have been astronomically amplified. Therefore, in every possible way, there has been runaway triumph of lies, backed by violence, taking control of everything. In the USA, the most clear paradoxical turning point, due to the reality of atomic bombs going BOOM, was the 1947 National Security laws, which enabled every other possible conspiracy to have a much freer hand to advance itself, under the cloak of "national security."

Indeed, it is hard to imagine any other concept that has become more manifestly psychotic than "national security!" For those whose minds are strong enough, it is clear that that was a master stroke of the master puppeteers, in creating their platform from which they could secretly pull strings more effectively. In that context, it amuses me to read the posts of Ident7777economy repeat his favourite phrase that conspiracy theories are the sign of a weak mind, since the truth is that failure to face the fact that conspiracies were quite real, and so, almost totally in control of the world, is the surest sign of a weak mind, that refuses to face the actual social facts. Therefore, it amuses me to ponder the possibilities regarding what is actually behind the magnificent obtuseness and stupendous stupidity represented by the comments of Ident7777economy, et alia ...

In American history, the phrase "conspiracy theory" became popularized by the mass media, as directed by government agencies, to respond to theories about the assassination of President Kennedy. The amusing FACT is that those government documents have since be declassified. Therefore, we can NOW KNOW that the way that Ident7777economy responds was originally a deliberately designed strategy of the psychotic national security system, to cover itself. Therefore, again, it amuses me to speculate about whether Ident7777economy is a "useful idiot" or a paid troll ... I will give that commenting entity the benefit of the doubt, and presume it is a paid troll, rather than such a total idiot, although that is merely my guess ...

As my later stand alone post about the Ron Paul story discussed, quite a bit further down in this list of comments, these questions of "conspiracy theories," and how to respond to them, was one of the most paradoxical problems that Ron Paul faced during his long political career!

Given that those who specialize in being dishonest, can and will back their lies up with violence, when they believe it is necessary to do that ... advancing more truth about any real conspiracy tends to get people killed, if those people get too good at that. ... It is only because I think that that the collective social insanity, of too much success, from too much criminal conspiracy, for too long, has already destroyed the future too much, that I no longer care about how dangerous those evils are, but rather have developed a macabre sense to humour to laugh at those evils. Which is why somebody like Ident7777economy amuses me with such ludicrous posts, as to deny that the mass media are owned by a handful of corporations, whose control is interlocked with all of the other megacorporations. Those are  social facts, which have been proven beyond reasonablel doubt! Furthermore, it is possible to do simple research about which particular people have been their Chief Executive Officers, and to easily demonstrate the pattern of what kinds of people they tended to be.  However, like I said, it is not who they are that matters, but rather, what they do. As always, my recommendations are that we ALL should do what they do BETTER!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:54 | 2981729 Cathartes Aura
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Now all of a sudden - he was our Saviour? You kidding me...

I would dissect and scrutinize him EVEN more now to get to the truth.

DO IT.  right now, right here, in your OUT LOUD voice.


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:30 | 2981205 Michaelwiseguy
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I actually thought up that quote myself last night. I just gave credit to Dr. Evil, a fictitious character, because the shoe fits better on him.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:58 | 2981741 irishlink
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Google had the Thinker as their homepage yesterday! I cannot believe that Ron Paul will sit back once leaving office. Sometimes more can be achieved once outside the sesspool.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:57 | 2981156 forexskin
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Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because most people do not want to admit they do not have the courage to do anything about it.  Most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker, but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.

you, sir will be missed

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:05 | 2981913 mercenaryomics
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Dear Romney-Troll-Goldman-muppets who keep bitching because Romney-the-goldman-puppet lost to Obama-the-goldman-puppet.  "Because the selfish libertarians and non-voters stole poor Mitten's victory." For you

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 21:25 | 2982416 Michaelwiseguy
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I don't think the word "stole" is the proper word to use. I would say it was more of a Hatchet Job.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:51 | 2981124 your neighbor
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing"

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:08 | 2981180 OneTinSoldier66
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+1 "Let it not be said that no one cared in our time of need."

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:02 | 2981494 Taffy Lewis
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I got to see him in person this summer in a small venue. What a great man.

Today is a sad day for me.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:30 | 2981629 koaj
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his work carries on. he has thousands of disciples all over the country and world. have faith. that number will spread to millions

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:36 | 2981660 SmallerGovNow2
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Hope you are right, his speech was awesome...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:56 | 2981734 Cathartes Aura
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"disciples"   "faith"



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:18 | 2981129 SwampHonkey
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Ron through the election ????  Here we go.........Talk about a tin foil hat....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:34 | 2981354's picture

You want the homonym: threw.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:43 | 2982037 SwampHonkey
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Yea, what he said i need the Homo nym. Threw.....Good lookin out ....Thanks Crockett

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:56 | 2981148 NotApplicable
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Wow, if you think RP "threw" an election...

Well, you're far dumber than you've been acting all this time.

Which, given your idiotic "signature" line, is really saying something.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:57 | 2981154 redpill
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Oh please.  Ron Paul supporters would have never voted for Romney regardless.  I sure as fuck didn't.


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:01 | 2981166 Dalago
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RP write in.  Judge Nap for VP

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:03 | 2981182 icanhasbailout
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same here on both counts

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:06 | 2981198 Zap Powerz
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Fox News showed its true colors when they terminated Judge Napolitano's show.  It was the ONLY thing worth watching on that fucked up channel.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:09 | 2981220 OneTinSoldier66
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Yep. It was the only reason I "used to" watch TV.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:38 | 2981643 divide_by_zero
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Rupert Murdoch and George Soros both members of the CFR, only difference Soros has all the other channels(NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBs, NPR, CNN look at member list to find favorite "jounalist" there or Center for American Progress) and most Indies(Huffpo, Media Matters, MoveOn etc), Rupert has News Corp. Two different franchises of the same thing.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:10 | 2981176 vast-dom
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threw what election you dumb shit? there was no election. there was cancer blue party vs cancer red party. RP was at least a kind of salve for national metastasis.   

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:21 | 2981281 Blankenstein
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And both cancer blue and cancer red had incentives to make sure Ron Paul didn't win the primary.  David Axelrod will go to great lengths to ensure a win for his team and to keep himself in power behind the curtain.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:49 | 2981329 vast-dom
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precisely. that's the nature of mailignant diseases and individuals: they will kill host(s) in order to grow and ultimately die themselves. there is no symbiosis in these arrangements, just big growth, big government, big pathology.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:07 | 2981207 Abiotic Oil
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Ron's biggest weakness has been entrusting others to manage his affairs with the same level of integrity and hard work that he has, i.e. not having total control of the newsletters and in specific reference to your comment, Jesse Benton.  Son-in-law incompetent asshole who was the real villain and threw the election for Ron by not going after vote fraud, caucus corruption, Romney getting GOP funds without being the official nominee etc.

It has also been brought to light that there were possibly threats against his family, like, "your grand daughter shouldn't ever get in a moving vehicle of any kind ever again if she wants to live."


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:52 | 2981448 Ident 7777 economy
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Abiotic Oil:


" Ron's biggest weakness has been entrusting others to manage his affairs ... "





Clear failure in LEADERSHIP at the top and against who?


The Stupid PArty!


Yes, Ron Paul lost in the primary to The Stupid Party!


Not against Axelrod and his Chicago Machine, but to Repubs!!!!!!


He would have been mince meat in the general in the fall ...




Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:15 | 2981247 OutLookingIn
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Ron Paul was the last best chance.

Now the country is truly screwed.

Chumba, you are an idiot Sir.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:16 | 2981252 LawsofPhysics
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You still think you have a choice?  LMFAO!  Sure, let me guess, you probably think that there is market for true price discovery as well.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:43 | 2981405 hbjork1
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Naw.  Too many llooneytunes sporting the Republican Lable.

Public is getting serious.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:13 | 2981538 bxy
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Fuck you

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:04 | 2981770 DYS
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I gatta agree...  he did throw the election.  But who knows, maybe he was threatened?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:00 | 2981131 Dalago
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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.” - Ron Paul

We now carry the torch of Liberty!  Get involved!  Run for local office and spread the Liberty message!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:18 | 2981262 Larry Dallas
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Do you blame him? He probably heard that John Kerry was going to be Secretary of Defense and said, "the hell with it. So long, suckers!".



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:40 | 2981391's picture



My local conservative blogs are being over whelmed by Ron Paul Winter Soldiers. They talk like John Kerry, and claim that more soldiers support Ron Paul than any other candidate. They defend Bradley Manning as a hero.

They point to the evidence that more campaign contributions from soldiers go to Ron Paul, the Constitutionalist, than any other campaign. Wrapped up in this stew is jargon that sounds like Occupy Wall Street: Warmonger, Neocon, etc

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:48 | 2981109 Bazinga
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Shining example of how our "two party" system operates - ignore those who stray from the status quo and try to make them look nuts those few times you don't ignore them.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:00 | 2981114 Ident 7777 economy
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Sorry, but, it did not take much to make Ron Paul look 'nuts' (your word, not mine.)


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:29 | 2981317 Blankenstein
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To the brainwashed, Honey Boo watching couch potatoes the idea of a smaller government that isn't 16 trillion dollars in debt nor has 220 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities probably is nuts.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:47 | 2981409 Ident 7777 economy
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If Paul's appeal was so universal, then, well, his appeal should been - what? "Universial."


CLEARLY, it wasn't (His appeal was NOT universal). He appealed to a fringe group ... that's it! Simply stated ...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:50 | 2981437 akak
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Funny how the most idiotic, button-pushing trolls here seem to like having "7777" in their handle.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:56 | 2981465 Bay of Pigs
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Trav's red headed step child?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:01 | 2981488 akak
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No, the microcephalic one.


" ... if I only had a brain ..."

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:58 | 2981467 Ident 7777 economy
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Thank you for agreeing with me, since you did not disagree, you must agree, since you acquiesced to my prime argument:


CLEARLY, his appeal was NOT universal. He appealed to a fringe group ... that's it! Simply stated ...


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:06 | 2981513 Blankenstein
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Why don't you offer someting of substance?  Maybe present an argument against one of Ron Paul's ideas you disagree with.  Or explain what you think should be America's economic plan going into the future. 

All you have presented so far is mindless tripe.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:28 | 2981613 sherryw
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Trav wasn't so bad.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:27 | 2981607 sherryw
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Yeah, the avant garde. Takes time for those ideas to filter down.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:57 | 2981146 vast-dom
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killing yourself over obummer win? wrong way to go out!



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:26 | 2981604 Silver Bug
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Wow a true American Hero. The best man in politics of this age.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:36 | 2981038 Antifaschistische
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You gave us hope Mr. Paul.   Thank you for your service.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:40 | 2981069 Ident 7777 economy
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Good ridda -er- luck Ron Paul ..

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:42 | 2981400's picture

We're well aware of your opinion. And of your electoral track record. Still whining about the Romney landslide that only an idiot would doubt?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:37 | 2981319 TheGardener
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Last man standing in what could go down in history as the last fair and free election in the United States of America before succumbing to ... guess what : not quite dictatorship yet, even though

law and order folks already got more than they had wished for, socialist of all colors are left to eat each other , call it care or be further seduced by some cannibal`s smile.


I hate to be thats cynical, having called this election result correctly.


Good riddance democracy, the last knight to give you credibilty just left the scene.


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:36 | 2981046 Mercury
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Old libertarians never die...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:38 | 2981050 CPL
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...good luck Mr Paul.  Spend it while it's worth something

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:39 | 2981059 alien-IQ
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...and then there were none...turn out the lights....the last honest man has left the building.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:56 | 2981144 swissaustrian
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Try Massie, Bentivolio and Amash.

3 elected Congressmen who are looking very good.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:27 | 2981307 slackrabbit
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one hero die, two will take his place...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:45 | 2981406
Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:40 | 2981064 TeamDepends
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Take a good look America, this was your last hope.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:51 | 2981123 BKbroiler
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which sucks, because in 4 years people will be begging him... and after 8 years of Bush and 8 year of Obama he would have had a much better shot.   I guess there's always Gary...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:01 | 2981168 TeamDepends
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Nothing's over until we decide it is.  Certain events could transpire,  in which the chief actor would be GRAND JURIES.  The current regime, clearly guilty of fraud of biblical proportions, could be removed and Dr. Paul inserted as interim POTUS.  See Red Beckman on youtube.  Do it now. 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:07 | 2981203 NotApplicable
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Would this be the same "we" who are rendered insolvent due to the destructive nature of 3rd party debt in their names, which is the base of modern finance (which funds the criminal cartels)?

Good luck with that. You're gonna need it.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:23 | 2981293 TeamDepends
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Who is insolvent?  Are you?  If so, you have made poor financial decisions.  If you are talking about the national debt we agree with Dr. Paul that it should be forgiven, ignored, defaulted upon, whatever you want to call it because it is fraudulent fantasy numbers.  Are you American?  The "we" we are talking about is "We The People....."

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:48 | 2981423's picture

And how much does each American owe toward the national debt not to mention the unfunded liabilities in the entitlement system? The oligarchs went to a big DC party and all I got was this lousy bill.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:18 | 2981564 TeamDepends
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Crock, we love you but you need to read our comment again.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:27 | 2981611's picture

Will a handshake and a cold one do in lieu of a hug?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:30 | 2981624 TeamDepends
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You had us at shake.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:43 | 2981689's picture

My error, I think, speaks to the damage that trolls (and Ident 7777 is a true troll as opposed to LTER, shall we say) can do in a forum. They crash a party among more or less like minded individuals --honest disputes not withstanding -- and sow seeds of anger. One begins to read posts more quickly and with an eye toward conflict.

On the other hand such a shared battle experience (Keyboard Commando Division) can bring the intellectually honest members of a forum closer together. The damage a troll does is likely outweighed by the sense of camaraderie it engenders in those he attacks. Especially when the object of that attack is Dr. Paul.

I find it beneficial to turn my errors into didactic moments. Looks the "cold one" you got was lemonade.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:10 | 2981800 TeamDepends
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We need to reach out to the Trolls, but they're so damned ugly....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 21:47 | 2982500 Ident 7777 economy
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Here - take my hand - let me help you up off the face of the cliff onto dry, level ground ...



Thu, 11/15/2012 - 00:33 | 2983044 Best Satan in Town
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How can I get a job doing what you do?

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 12:02 | 2984243 TeamDepends
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Whatever you say pal, whatever you say....

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:03 | 2981185 Tucson Tom
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Hate to bring this up,but try Hillary for at least four years.Enough to make you go postal!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:07 | 2981202 kralizec
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8 years, what is to prevent it?  Well, if we get that far that it is...but I doubt there will be a nation in even name much longer...

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:12 | 2981228 slackrabbit
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a great man


Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:29 | 2981610 Jugdish
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George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, John Paul Jones, Sam Houston, Geronimo, General Patton, Ron Paul. A true American Hero. A great man who stood up to tyrants and a government run by pedophiles and rapists.

Corzine, Obama/Sotero, Bushes, Clintons, bernanke, Johnson, Benedict Arnold. John kerry, barney frank, Dodd of oz. Criminal Scum and will be remembered as such.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:40 | 2981065 ArsoN
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"Sad part is he's right."  -family member visiting from abroad, listening to Ron Paul for the first time.  

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:10 | 2981221 ilovefreedom
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If he's right and Romney is crazy, what does that make Obama?

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:49 | 2981431's picture

Puppet in chief.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:54 | 2981457 Al Gorerhythm
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The majority's choice. Sigh.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:01 | 2981486's picture

Not if you include those who refused to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:23 | 2981595 sherryw
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If you don't like the first two, vote for the third -it doesn't matter who he is. If he gets in, at least it will shake the tree. If it triggers one of the first two to get in, it doesn't matter, one of them was going to get in anyway.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 18:18 | 2981738's picture

There was a video of Ron Paul at just before the election which I've searched for but can't find. In it Ron says that he knows intelligent people who don't vote out of principle and he's OK with that. Lew was Ron's chief of staff back in the day and Lew is a committed non-voter. Ron Paul remains Lew's great friend and Ron has said that he reads the LRC website everyday. Lot's of encouragement to withdraw your consent by not voting at LRC. I'm down with that, a lever with Ron Paul's name on it being the only recent exception.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 19:14 | 2981952 Ms. Erable
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President of a nation that is deserving of such an individual's 'leadership'.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:41 | 2981070 QE49er
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Everyone in America will be buying you a beer after it's over.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:50 | 2981436's picture

I'll offer him a ride home afterwards.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:47 | 2981075 swissaustrian
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We're going to invite him to Switzerland to speak at a Libertarian think tank called "liberales Institut" (fyi: "liberal" in German means "Libertarian"):

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 16:56 | 2981466 TheGardener
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Liberal in German means bowing over. The German Liberal Party never had anything in common with anything libertarians could relate to, just some token democratic party for the West German Politbureau.

The gay leader of said party acting out as foreign minister is kind of liberal, as he brings his male fiancee along as "second lady"  on foreign official travels.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:47 | 2981692 swissaustrian
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German language, not GermanY, the country ;-) We're a Swiss organization, not tied to German politics at all. The German FDP once had a few good thinkers like Ralf Dahrendorf, but they're nearly intellectually dead now, I agree on that. At least they got Frank Schäffler now. He's a good guy.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 01:01 | 2983106 Antifaschistische
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I believe he's referring to "liberal" in the classical sense.  "Conservatives" were those dedicated to the preservation of the status quo (e.g. kings, queens, dukes, duchess, princes, and such) where the "liberals" were those interested in freeing themselves from the predetermined caste 

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:43 | 2981079 sharky2003
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This man will forever be my hero.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:42 | 2981080 OneTinSoldier66
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Ron Paul Rocks!

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:21 | 2981584 Ident 7777 economy
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Ummmm ... why wasn't Ron's appeal more universal to voters?


Why didn't more voters support him in the primaries?


And, why didn't Ron come out strongly for, um, Mitt I think it was who ultimately became the Repub candidate?


Why didn't RP support the repub candidate?


Or, was this just all about 'Ron' (a RP fan club) activity rather than anything seriously political?



Wed, 11/14/2012 - 17:32 | 2981621 akak
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I'm sure beyond any doubt that the nearly ubiquitously negative reporting Ron Paul was given by the corporate-controlled media (when he was mentioned at all, which was seldom compared to the other candidates), and the undeniably unfair and biased manner in which he was treated in the so-called "debates" (where he was often given less than 25% of the time to speak as most or every other candidates), and the egregiously corrupt electoral machinations made in his disfavor by the hardcore Neocon Republican Party establishment to cheat him out of delegates and outright victories in more than a few state primaries, all had nothing to do with his (orchestrated) less-than-universal support.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 20:30 | 2982211 John Wilmot
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The answer to your first two questions is "because the American electorate consists of ignorant fools." The answer to your third and fourth questions is "for the same reason he didn't endorse Obama, i.e. what Romney/Obama represents (corporatism) is anathema to what Ron Paul represents (libertarianism)." The answer to your final question is "the goal was for Ron to win the Republican nomination, or at least use the campaign to educate people (failure on the first count, success on the second)."

In conclusion, go fuck yourself.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:46 | 2981087 augustus caesar
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We're lucky to have had him as long as we did.

Goodbye Mr. Paul, I hope your best days are to come.


We'll take it from here.

Wed, 11/14/2012 - 15:46 | 2981095 ziggy59
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