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In Advance Of The Retaliation: Gaza Missile Range Infographic
With Israel having launched the biggest Gaza escalation in years, the waiting game now turns to the Gaza retaliation, which if the rhetoric is any indication, will be substantial. So what can Gaza do, and how far can its rockets penetrate, assuming they can bypass the Israeli "Iron Dome" defense shield? The following infographic from Stratfor explains it. The ranging is particularly relevant in the context of the Dimona nuclear power plant, which at least at first blush appears unreachable - after all, if Gaza really wanted to unleash the gates of hell on Israel, it would focus all of its firepower precisely on this one spot.
From Stratfor
Israel Defense Forces confirmed Nov. 14 that it had killed Ahmed Jabari, the leader of Hamas' armed wing, the Izz al-Deen al-Qassam Brigades. The airstrike that killed Jabari came a day after Israel warned that it was considering targeted assassinations in response to increasing rocket fire from Gaza. In addition to the strike on Jabari, the Israeli air force reportedly attacked a cache of 20 long-range missiles and a Gaza police station, and loud explosions are being reported in Gaza City. An IDF spokesman announced that the Israeli military was embarking on Operation Pillar of Defense, which could include a ground incursion into Gaza. The assassination of Jabari seems to have been a first salvo, one that will provoke retaliation from Hamas and that could affect Jordan and Syria. Renewed and expanded bouts of rocket fire are certain, including rockets targeting urban areas. But the question is what other operations Hamas can and will conduct.
So even assuming a missile can enter deep into Israel territory, the clip below shows the defensive chain of Israeli events that is unleashed next.
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Boom, goes the dynomite!
Don't worry, Obama has everything under control because he is the world leader!
Peace bombings are already overdue.
Let me guess .. wimpy libertarians are against a military intervention to protect our allies? Pathetic. Nerdy libertarian computer nerds and anti-war protesters are an embarrassment to average Americans and pose a serious diminishment to our national pride and sense of self-esteem.
Step out of character occasionally and say something that doesn't suck. Your routine might be funnier that way.
Its crazy how Isreal created the largest refugee camp in history. No wonder there's no peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee
that camp is getting smaller by the day as israel builds more and more illegal 'settlements' to colonize what little land remains of Palestine.
If these are God's "Chosen" then this god is the Devil.
Khazars
Wrong, they are Isrealites in name only... they are not the same as those outlined in the Holy Bible.
The largest part of what is called Palestine now is occupied by Jordan.
At least someone has a clue.
.. what little land remains of Palestine.
All of Palestine that existed when the Romans called it Palestine still exists. The name Palestine has always been the name of a region, not the name of a nation or country. That entire Palestinian region is still there, even tho the names of the countries/nations within that region have changed over time.
It's not a "refugee camp."
It's a concentration camp or ghetto.
Just like the Jewish ghettos of Nazi occupied Poland.
OK kids. Here is a homework assignment for everybody. Compare and contrast the political and economic characteristics of modern Gaza with the Jewish ghettos of Nazi occupied Poland between 1939 and 1942. How is life different or the same for a human being living in these environments. Oh sorry. The gatekeepers don't think the residents are human beings.
new white house petition, investigation into Israel's role in 911:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/united-states-government-recog...
Also,
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/dissolve-federal-government/vn...
Boy, I wonder what kind of list you get put on for signing that.
the double secret enemy list.
Israel should open the southern wall with Egypt and herd the koranimals over to Egypt.
After that, tofu-farting,limp-wristed,Islam loving,degenerate Europeans can import them to their countries to 'enrich' their culture..
Limp-wristed Euros? Better than flabby, fat-filled American wrists, 99% of which belong to Americans who have never served in the military.
Like most people in Gaza are still alive and most if not all people from the Warschau ghetto are all dead? Like Gaza receives yearly millions in US and EU aid and Warschau Ghetto got none?
Israel is the largest refugee camp, having taken in Jews from Muslim countries. Tke Palestinians are not welcome in Muslim countries. They have to kill Jews as the Koran commands.
Ignorant MDB, you suggest that because their skin is white they are our allies and if their skin is dark they must be terorrists, and need to be bombed, looted and force fed intravenous central banking...
Name 1 of the countries that have been devastated by our Military, that were not composed of people with skin pigment
Do NaziLand and the 'ol USofA count?
The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Israeli army: Rocket strikes southern suburb of Tel Aviv, no injuries. -BW
Ummm, Britain. See 1776.
Unrelated, but how about those IDF girls, eh? Am I right? I mean...HELLO! Right guys? Guys? Where'd everyone go?
Israeli women are HOT.
Shame so many of them are racial supremacists.
Germany, Italy, Austria, just in the last century. Europeans are second to none in kicking each other's asses, and America has been aligned with Europe due to the sheer number of European immigrants. We just got to the point where all the fight had left us, so now we give a shit about the rest of the world. No doubt, that will change and we'll be back at each other's throats, and whatever intrigues Europeans have in the third world will go unnoticed except by intervening European or American navies. If Vietnam had occurred during WWII it would have been but a footnote in history, not an obsession of it.
Germany, Italia, Austria, France, Serbia were bombed by the USA.
The conflicts between the occidental world and the muslim world have deeper roots and violence than the superficial cold war. Israel, might not be completly in the occidental world (not christian, and not in America or Europe), yet they are the ennemy of our ennemy. Said differently, Israel is our friend.
Call me a zionist, but in a new world paradigm with the muslim and confucianism worlds getting more powerful every day as the occident decline, we must get along shoulder to shoulder with our allies. If Israel fall to the muslim hands, it might not be a direct threat to the USA, but the Europe might be one day part of the ummah.
Leaving the USA alone, with all the resentment in the world against your world hegemony. Then, no one will be left to cry if you get wiped out of the map by an EMP.
I see I'm not making a lot of friends here. :)
Yugoslavia,Vietnam...so shut the fuck up
Yeah, let's keep the boot on the Arabs neck, in case they decide to invade YONKERS!!!
Damn, whose your daddy???
Daddy's little girl.
Mr Bonus SIR :: It is so good to see that at least ONE other person here in ZERO-land LOVES Amercia and LOVES Jesus! My Preacher, Brother Billy Bob Barker, told me and The Faithful who was in Church where we belonged to be on Sunday that if we really LOVE Jesus we gotta KILL anyone who doesn't LOVE Jesus as much as Jesus LOVES Amercia. "Kill 'em all and let God sort it out!" Amen. We got to DEFEND Israel because the Bible says so and if the Bible says so, I believe it, AND THAT SETTLES IT! Amen and PRAISE BE! This is SCRIPTURE TIMES! I say: Bring it on and Let's ROLL! Amen and Hallelujah!!
It's time to git your woman into the kitchen to start makin cookies for the troops and gettin' the house all clean and READY FOR RAPTURE! Let's ROLL!!!
Amercia is Jesus' Favorite Country! ©
Israel is Jesus' Second Favorite Country! ©
Fox is Jesus' Favorite Network! ©
Mooslims make the Baby Jesus Cry!!! ©
We got to DEFEND Israel because the Bible says so ...
I assume you are being tongue-in-cheek and actually realize that the Bible says no such thing.
If the Bible is true, Jerusalem will eventually be conquered by the non-Jew and nobody but God will come to the rescue. That is the point, according to the Bible. When God alone rescues Israel, that will be proof indeed that God is God. Should be an interesting show to watch if it happens.
Oh wait ... Jerusalem has already been conquered by the non-Jew a number of times. So is the Bible talking about that, or some other time in the future that hasn't happened yet?
MDB, are you sure you're not rferring to the anti 'Zionist' Democrats or the outspoken Black Caucus?
Hey MDB - why don't you enlist in the military if you're so pro-war. Maybe you could give lectures in the Middle East on why privately owned central banks are a necessity to any emerging economy; and why precious metals are evil.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_Israel's_prevailing_winds
But then again, they're not dumb enough to want to kill themselves and brethren.
Are you sure about that?
See, non-Americans would think that's an oxymoron.
Hamas rockets are missing that classic "buzz".
That lends to the suspense and terror.
12/21/12!!
Yes... this will all evaporate in importance when the aliens are announced along with their tech!
I will be in Ohau then. Fiorst full day as a matter of fact. Should be a good meditation day.
The Middle East is a powder keg packed tighter than the 18-year old female in Peter North's latest flick.
Link?
Back to school. 'shit fer brains'. Its 'Dynamite'
Jimmie Walker begs to differ.
Bah. Jimmy Walker forever changed the sound and spelling decades ago. 'Dynomite' is perfectly legit.
G'head - go look ... we'll wait.
No, that's Dy-no-mite! Hyphens!
I thought it was dyn-all-might.
Its vital that we protect ourselves from terrorists trying to take our freedoms............oh wait......we gave those all away already......never mind fire away boyz
Need to get a new Ambassador into Libya mucho pronto. The spice and arms must flow.
Predictably stupid, to the last.
I'm waiting for Tyler's "It's on like Donkey Kong" post.
A missle on Tel Aviv will lead to an immediate and intense invasion of Gaza. It will mean 4 million Israelis will be in range of active missles and will bring Israeli industry to a complete halt. Hamas knows if they fire a missle on Tel Aviv and it makes it through, it will be all out war which you can be sure, Israel dominate.
Skip all of the people targets and hit Israeli's desalination plant.
No water = no people.
The Israelis can import water. Can the stupistinians?
no, past a certain limit, they can not. They would be more vulnerable than ever before - sink a ship, bust a pipe-line, watch all the dirty Israelis drop dead of thirst.
Problem solved, finally.
It's not the people themselves, it's the theft of the rightful land of Palestine that's the problem.
His-Story credits emotions, strategy, and valor for victory.
Facts declare one factor which champions outcome; logistics.
Is it treasonous against the usa to not cheer for Israel? Who makes these rules, Hitlery?
BOMB ISRAEL!
jew wanna bomb tha heebies? thas rayciss.
Nobody is stopping you, Hero.
Uhhh.... does USA = Israel?
USA is Israel, just missing the red on the flag to symbolise blood
Long Raytheon, they're the primary missile defense manufacturer.
990'000 USD per SM-3 missile defense unit:
http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=3709
Going long ATK:
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/atk/profile
I'm not comfortable with pointing this info out. Seems a little more than dangerous and in fact seems like you're giving out a game plan.
100M arabs picking up a club and walking toward izreel is a plan too.
That is a bad plan if the passage that says it will take weeks to bury all the dead enemies of Israel has any bearing on reality.
earth to nonclaim, it doesn't.
Invoking earth in a religious war? Both sides are looking beyond your time/place horizon...
"earth to nonclaim, it doesn't."
Somebody with over 200 fuctional high-yield warheads, mainly 2 stage thermonuclear weapons, could probably make a convincing argument otherwise.
100M arabs picking up a club and starting to walk towards Israel ends up as follows:
After about 500 metres, whining breaks out amongst the crowd wondering if they are there yet.
After about 800 metres, the leaders are yelling at the followers to shut up, stop whining, and get in line.
A squirrel crosses the path and everyone stops to watch.
The leaders cannot get the crowd moving after the squirrel crossed the road.
100M arabs start beating each other senseless with the clubs given to them by the Zionists.
IDF....
Helping Ay-rabs achieve martyrdom since 1948!
Just because they're not white doesn't make them idiots.
There are 10 times as many white idiots as there are non-white idiots, statistically speaking
> I'm not comfortable ...
Trust me ... we all give a fuck.
.
is this you askng for a tampon?
no ~ it's a [life sized] MRI of his brain he had custom made at fathead.com...
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BEST THING YOU HAVE SAID ALL YEAR
+1
Come on MDB, you aren't even trying anymore...
Second best post from you evar!
So when will Obama start supplying arms to the Gaza insurgents....pretty soon I bet...anyone want to be an Ambassador????
Would that be the Nobel Peace Prize Winning Barry?
According to TPTB, it would be an economic stimulus... Expect it in the new jobs bill.
Hamas gave Israel the justification to destroy its missles in preparation for an attack on Iran. I bet the Iranian leadership is none too happy about that.
where did the sand niggers get all these missiles anyway? Uncle Sam
Uncle Sugar.
So aren't you a wonderful pile of shit. Late for your Klan meeting?
aint you lot got a sense of humour?
Your wife finds me most amusing.......
I see 13 years olds are posting on ZH now.
You talking about me or the klansman?
Captain Darling: So you see, Blackadder, Field Marshall Haig is most anxious to eliminate all these German spies.
General Melchett: Filthy hun weasels, fighting their dirty underhand war!
Captain Darling: And fortunately, one of our spies...
General Melchett: Splendid fellows, brave heroes risking life and limb for Blighty!
LOL
Blackadder +1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44
is there a ground offencive in the works
Red Alert has just sounded in Rishon Le'Tzion, a suburb bordering Tel Aviv: http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=292045
"It's on like Donkey Kong"
I wonder what the cost of running the Iron Dome is, considering those missiles are ~$40000 a pop.
Anyone have accurate figures on how many Israeli interceptor missiles have been launched?
DW I found the figures myself.
With about $1000 worth of Estes products one could really wreak havoc on the Israeli defense budget - aka, US proving grounds.
Yeah, seems like quite a price to pay.
Given lowish tax rates in Israel each Gaza rocket fired appears to cost them about 5 average citizens income tax to pay for a single Iron Dome missile.
***each Gaza rocket fired appears to cost them***
Cost Them? Don't make me laugh. The United States' taxpayers pay more for Israeli's military "defense" than do the Israelis. The Iron Dome is a gift that keeps on giving.
Aren't they run by the same people?
Yes both countries are run by the same people, but it's the U.S goyim taxpayer who picks up the tab.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations#Un...
This map will be out of date when they get the new 'Pathan III with knobs on' missile from Iran.
We don't have any missiles over at http://alpha-dog-food.com but we sure have got some nice bazookas you boys can look at :-)
Kinda looks like Dimona is well within range of a mobile missile fired from Jordan. Of course, no chance of that, thank God.
Given the recent unrest and that their security/intelligence minister just got arrested for corruption and given a 3 year jail sentence, who knows?
Not to mention the fact that a lot of palestinians now live in jordan.
Not to mention the fact that a lot of palestinians now live in jordan.
They have been living there for 60+ years.
"Achmed, let's fire some more rockets at the Israelis.That will piss them off good."
"This is good idea, Mohammed. What could go wrong?"
(Ambulance siren in distance)
"Uh-oh. I think that was the boss's car."
"More rockets!"
Brilliant.
I urge people to watch "Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land", a 2004 documentary by Sut Jhally and Bathsheba Ratzkoff before making an opinion of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.
Is iron dome the same as the aegis system or is it a patriot copy with boosted sensors?
"Gazans fire 87 rockets into Israel; Iron Dome intercepts 25 Iron Dome will not save them,imo."
Maybe. But to be clear the system calculates an impact point and only f ires if the rockets are on a course to hit populated ares. So of 87 rockets fired into Israel....Iron Dome intercepting 0 is a success if they're both calculated to fall in unpopulated areas and actually fall in unpopulated areas.
FWIW, they're claiming an 80% success rate in Iron Dome missiles actually fired. Intercepts are made against well under half of rockets fired. Most land in open land with no casualties.
How many of the un-intercepted had a chance of hitting a target? For example. if a dozen of those 87 were actually on target, and 25 were intercepted, there's a good chance most if not all of the damaging ones were destroyed.
Well if the Iron Dome is overwhelmed they can
bomb the crap out of them.
They did it in 2009
"Shot down 30 missiles".
30 out of 250. Yep, money well spent.
it wasn't their money so yeah, to them it was free.
""Shot down 30 missiles".
30 out of 250. Yep, money well spent."
If only 30 would have hit populated areas - yes.
The system is designed to fire at rockets that are projected to fall in populated areas. Not at all rockets. Most rockets fired land in unpopulated areas, and intercepting them would be a waste of interceptor missiles (and money).
They should start sending them in from Jordan, Syria and China.
short version...
YouTube - Hamas Bar-B-Que - Israeli Style: Actual Footage of Drone Strike on Gaza 'Tough Guy' Ahmed Jabril (13 sec)
or the long feature length version (footage courtesy of Wim Wenders)
YouTube - Adventures of the Open Road: Hamas Tough Guy Ahmed al-Jabri has a Hot Date with a Drone (58 sec)
...
either way Ahmed al-Jabril is TOAST
He's the crumbs at the bottom of your toaster !
The map is senseless. It would indicate that the rockets are based out in the sea
Firepower? And Stratfor, in league with Goldman Sachs, is supposed to be the military armament expert; and he (George Friedman) doesn’t recognize that Israel has the firepower -- tanks, jets, bombers, attack helicopters, night visions equipment, nuclear capabilities and all the rest…including the backup of the world’s largest military machine in the hands of an Israeli-groomed puppet, Barack Obama?
And, never mind I suppose, that it was Stratfor that suggested that a re-election strategy for Obama would be to take the initiative and bomb Iran.
Most people know Gaza is a prison camp; you can’t go there and you can’t come here. So to argue that they will be escalating a retaliation against the Israelis when Israel is a nuclear power backed by a superpower is beyond the pale. We're talking of an IDF that can eliminate (assassinate) anyone at anytime without putting its own forces in danger, all done by the technology of using satellites, airborne drones or elevated cameras at strategic locations along the border.
It is only in a doublespeak world of deceit where “retaliation” is the term applied to using sticks and stones to defend yourself and your children against heavy tanks and bombers.
Israeli-groomed puppet, Barack Obama?
Iranian Valerie Jarret might disagree.
check out the 5 sec mark in Tylers vid link
that's some blond hottie military babe...
I fired off my own missle when I saw that blond hottie IDF babe.
< 6" range isn't considered a missle ! Nice try !
I can dream......
Israel is the ghetto .... Gaza is a sapper inside the barbed wire .... for every Hamas rocket .... Israel should retaliate with 5 shells randomly lobbed in by warships off Gaza !
The liberal media will have a heart attack if this happens.
Mercy..!
Random Rockets answered with Aimless Artillery ! Fight fire with much worse fire .... that's how WWII was ended ?
"Random Rockets answered with Aimless Artillery ! Fight fire with much worse fire .... that's how WWII was ended ?"
Actually, it was ended with a circular-error-probability of 100 yards and a 400 yard fireball.
On drudge now...rockets are hitting Tel Aviv..need a new graph
The IDF on twitter
https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson
Does Hamas have twitter? I would like to see Israel and Hamas have an all out tweet fight.
I'm getting a basket fuck with a Palestinian Prostitute in Haifa while sipping my raspberry Two If By Tea .... a Rush Limbaugh beverage .... am I in danger ?
I'm praying someone powerful strikes preemptively the arrogant bandit regime of Israel , the country which is the cancer of our planet
But pot cures cancer. Ask Dr. Raphael Mechoulam.
The people of Gaza should be fabulously wealthy, considering the resource wealth under their feet and off their shore. All that's needed is equipment and trained manpower. The United Nations and humanitarian agencies should actively encourage exploration and production.
"Gaza's natural gas, the unreachable treasure"
news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2012-06/03/c_131628475.htm
...um, don't dash your foot against The Stone, thinking to be sustained by Mercy. LMAO. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162106#.UKVp8-T7KCt