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Hamas Releases Video Of Downed Israeli Drone, IDF Denies

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Someone is lying here: either Hamas did not down an IDF drone, dubbed "Sky Light", and the clip below is one big fraud (unclear why Hamas would go to such a length to fabricate a downed drone video), or the IDF is lying when it said it "confirmed" that one of its drones had been shot down. Either way, we have a feeling that the airborne campaign is coming to an end, and that Israel may and likely will escalate to a full blown land invasion very soon unless something dramatically changes. We fail to see what catalyzes this.

Hamas video:

And prompt IDF response:

 


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Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:16 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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And believe what? IDF propaganda??? Haha...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:19 | Link to Comment john39
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more bad news for the fascists on the propaganda front, they managed to kill an innocent teacher working with the U.N. aid agency in Gaza:

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/11/15/272495/israel-kills-teacher-wor...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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3rd possibility:

 

IDF is telling the truth (didn't lose a drone)

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Hamas is telling the truth (the shot down a drone)

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The drone is someone else's -- couldn't imagine what other country might have random drones flying around -- can you?

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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That's a model airplane.  Drones are big, some with 40' wingspan.  Stormy weather would toss that thing around at 120', let alone 10,000 feet  It's not a military drone.  If that specimen has wheels, the shag carpet it's sitting on would suck them up.  The video is a total joke - much like Benocides' "we have no inflation" speeches.

And for the record, I am not picking sides.... could give a rip about the never ending conflict.  Just my $.02 on drones that I've been up close to.

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:48 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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Whatever.

Let's hope these are opening salvos of WWIII.  Get on with it please, tired of waiting.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment BattlegroundEur...
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Hold your horses a bit.  I am still stacking and prepping.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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Drone probably got infected by Stux virus and downed itself.

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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They're BOTH right.

Hamas has got a Drone

Isreal is right, Hamas didn't shoot it down (there's no bullet wounds)

...it fell out of the sky as it ran out of Av-Gas checking-out an Arab lady having a shower... you don't think the high-powered perving cameras are used for 'military purposes' do you after the Petraus perv scandal reveals what our military are really interested in 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Enslavethechild...
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The world is out of gas. Devaluation will drive the price up even if we find out that earth's core is composed of pure unleaded. They need something besides their fraud (paper money printing) to blame the impending increase in price at the pump, so they will start another endless war.

 A Kindergartener could figure this out

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:43 | Link to Comment Transformer
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Nope-1004    You are wrong about that.  Drones vary in size from a couple feet across to bigger than most 4 place general aviation planes.  Many of the drones being used in the US by sherrif and police departments are not in the usual ariplaine format of a a motor, wing, fuselage, and tail.  Many are 4 motor helicopter type designs that can easily hover.

http://mikrokopter.altigator.com/

http://rc-drones.com/

That said, the drone in this video could be a hobbyist RC airplane, but I doubt it.  It did not have the look at all of a hobby type RC plane, and the rear drive propellor/engine package, particularly, does not look like anything you can buy at Tower Hobbies.

Now, here's the real kicker, a Drone IS an RC model airplane, with a different purpose. 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:17 | Link to Comment knukles
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Horseshit.  That's Francis Gary Powers' U-2 on loan from the Kremlin
Can't believe everything you see on HamasTelevision.  They don't even have HD.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Spirit Of Truth
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Can't believe everything you see on HamasTelevision. 

Or BBC and CNN reporting on Hamas/Gaza...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162130

https://twitter.com/idfelite/status/269161464122720256/photo/1

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Diet Coke and F...
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LMAO

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Looks Estes to me.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:47 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBogus_
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Groan...another story about drones........

Don't see what relavance a drone has to do with what is going on in Gaza.

Maybe the video producer has a brother who has an RC model store, and needs some more business...??

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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perving cams?!  So I checked out pervcam dot com.......

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:09 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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I fly Radio Controlled Electric Gliders (up to 5m span). I also trialled the Israeli Aircraft Industries' Drone 'Searcher 001' back in 1993...THAT Gentlemen, is NOT your usual Military Drone. I can almost say for sure that the design is flyable, it does look airworthy, but not overly sturdy. There's lots of information in that video if you know what you're looking at.

Here's what I see:
1. I am 100% sure it's electric; I recognise the Propeller at the rear and silver hub too (the Pusher Propeller at the rear is a grey plastic APC brand...very common). You can even see the screws for mounting the motor to the rear bulkhead.
2. There is an air vent on the top ('V' shape) which indicates there is a cooling requirement (Lithium Batteries, Speed Controller and Brushless Motor).
3. There are some commonly used RC Modelling components too.
4. The Ailerons are short and there are no flaps, so I'd say they really don't care about careful landings.
5. basic flight controls, no redundancy (disposable?).

Design:
1. It looks like it's man-packed (portable) or small vehicle launched.
2. Low cost (you could build thousands of these things cheaply).
3. Short range. I'd give it maybe 1-2hr max endurance. Being electric, and the design itself, although quite suitable, is NOT for endurance. The shapes are basically rectangular and offer minmum Lift-to-drag ratios (cheap and nasty not like F3B and F3J glider design).
4. Low speed; maybe 100kph max. The high aspect wing shape, tail shape and body
5. Low power; given the rear bulkhead, prop and hub, I'd say less than 1500W output (ergo 100kph max).
6. Lightweight; I reckon the span is about 3-4 meters, so I'd say it weighs around 5kg min, 10kg max.

One thing that gets me is that I see no Camera in the nose or underneath. It looks like it's either a decoy, electronic surveillance maybe, or, an expendable small payload (3-5kg) bomb carrier (laser designated/guided)...perhaps a False Flag Drone for media attention.

In any case, it's not what I'd build given millions of dollars in military funding, not even close.

If my aim was to make a fairly convincing low cost RC model Drone capable of fooling the world media, and passing it off as a US/Israeli Drone, then THAT is very close to what I'd make.

Just to give you some perspective, my 5 meter electric glider has 3000W motor/batt setup. It has full carbon fibre folding props. It's 100% fully moulded body and wings in carbon fibre and kevlar. Is sleek. Has 8 independant flight control surfaces......and you can make it ready to fly for under $3000.

So, why the low speed, low endurance, low cost, probably disposable, Drone?

That's the real question!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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No kidding. 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:54 | Link to Comment Transformer
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Are you kidding?  Low speed, short range, disposable drone?  You can't think of any applications for that in an on the ground military operation?  The most valuable thing, I would think would be to get something up in the air, that is not likely to be detected (very low radar signature) and fly it around over the nearby enemy lines at afew hundred to a thousand feet.  You could even turn the already very quiet electric motor off, and silently glide over the enemy so as to reduce detection.  Get lots of pictures back to the operator, and if you lose it, so what.  Just put another one up.  Nothing secret in it, just a hi res camera that transmits pictures/video back.

Sorry for not recognizing the hobby parts, I never flew electric, just gliders.  that's a definite high glide ratio wing that would break down enough to easily fit in a jeep or humm vee.  I'd guess wingspan to be 5-8'.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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Coming from a Recon/Sniper background (as well) I agree with you 100% on Low Level Ops (an eye in the sky is king), except on one point whch you've not covered. Which is; since when has the US or Israeli Defence Department EVER used RC modelling components when the whole point of military is to consume dollars in the military industrial complex?

Sorry, but even a shoe MUST be made under Defence contract.

This 'Drone' is something else....whether it be a mock-up, a Hamas False Flag, an Israeli RC Modeller, or a an overly keep Israeli soldiers' idea of value-add.......but it is extremely unlikely to be real military Drone.

I'd say it's to escalate agression and media attention.......and it's worked.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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when the whole point of military is to consume dollars in the military industrial complex?

 

They make up for it in volume.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Yousif
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Rafael Skylite B UAV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x539_YgcSxU

I'm just posting this for information.

I'm just sad that innocent people are dying / going to die (on both sides).

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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Yeah, I agree. I mean - how long do we have to wait to get nuked? Seriously...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:57 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Sorry ~ but the geek who was operating it prolly just went on a break to microwave some hotpockets...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Gear up and shuffle up to the start line, hero.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:56 | Link to Comment TX-Mike
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@Nope-1004:

You might want to do a little more research before you stake out your claim.

"Drones" is a term applied loosly to all sorts of unmanned aerial vehicles, which come in all sorts of sizes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles

It's very likely a CIA drone, big effing deal.  That's pretty much what they are getting paid to do and I'd rather them be over there spying than on our soil....

 

Have fun guys.  You've been fighting over "God" for 1000s of years..  We are a bunch of dumb asses if we think we can stop it!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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lol

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Lore
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Religion is still a powerful mass opiate, but the so-called elites don't give a damn about "Zion" or someone's image of God.  This is about PSYCHOPATHS JOCKEYING FOR POWER.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Lore
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From link: "Israel Unveils New, Improved 'Shoval' UAV"

Sure. That's it.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:10 | Link to Comment dickizinya
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IDF marks their toys in english?

long twinkies!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 23:12 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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That's what I thought too...This isn't a Military Drone, it's a 3-4 meter RC Electric Model.

Nice work tho.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:11 | Link to Comment 123dobryden
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according to the military spending in surrounding states it must have been Athen's...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment LeisureSmith
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I dislike Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove as much as the next guy, but you and your clickbaiting body need to get that sand outa your vagina. Your site reflects your name well. Some truth in advertising at least.

And that "drone" is just an israeli decoy meant to divert efforts.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:10 | Link to Comment no taste
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Roll with it.  There is nothing like a karl-roll to get the laughing muscles working.

Karlrolling is more fun with more variety.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zev0V7YOS78

Look for more Karlrolling soon!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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No one wants to hear your faggy whining about your STD's and being jilted by Karl Rove.

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:27 | Link to Comment no taste
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Dude, was that on the test to be a Karl-troll?  

Try to remember which character on your staff/puppet list "dislikes the Turd Blossom."  

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment The Gooch
Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment BeaverFever
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I spot bagel fragments on the left wing. It was from Israel.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:17 | Link to Comment Titus Flavius C...
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prolly a bunch of greeks hiding in there.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:17 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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video killed the IDF drone star.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment fockewulf190
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Remember, the IDF destroyed an unknown drone a few weeks back.  There exists the possibility that this video footage shows that very same drone, and Hamas is trying to shore up a "victory" of sorts.  Hamas is easily savvy enough to do something like this.

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 21:13 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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VD. Where's that big fat "black swan" you staked your reputation on? I know that these things have a lfe of their own but that was a big call that you made.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:18 | Link to Comment Rip van Wrinkle
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Just in from the BBC. The TV Channel you can trust!!

 

http://order-order.com/2012/11/15/bbc-news-runs-fake-palestinian-casualt...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Good catch. Here's hoping for another bbc head to roll...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 23:01 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Yeah....... and that's one ugly woman they are helping out of the rubble. Needs a shave badly. Typical of a towel head to hide behind a burka though. These two sides can flog each other from one side of the desert to the other and all of their supposed and real casualties won't raise a morsel of sympathy from me. Fight on boys and girls. That seems to be your only way of communicating with each other, so go keep up with god's work. 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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A BBC cameraman from palestine just had his 11 month old son killed by an israeli missile so the team reporting from gaza may be slightly biased.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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I thought I lost that on my mom's roof when I was 12.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Overfed
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I like hummus.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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lulz

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:20 | Link to Comment nugjuice
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Is it dumb that I expected the drone to be....bigger? I dunno, I'm kinda disappointed after seeing the video. I thought it would be meaner looking. I think I made one of these in space camp when I was in middle school.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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you should be scared of how small it really is

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:29 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Only a few grow to be Global Hawks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RQ-4_Global_Hawk.jpg

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:06 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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you should be scared of how small it really is

 

that's what she said

HEYO

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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is it in yet?

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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I'm jealous that you went to Space Camp. I wanted to  go so bad after the movie came out.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:21 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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Does it have a "Made in China" sticker on it?

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Joe Davola
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Not yet, but after they make a donation to Hamas so they can have a look-see there will be a remarkably similar one from the PRC.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:22 | Link to Comment BORT
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new moon

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:22 | Link to Comment Overfed
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By the condition that it's in, it looks more like they broke in and stole it.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment john39
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kinda like the U.S. drone that the Iranians managed to hack control of and land last year...  so much for the technological edge.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Joe Davola
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For a few thousand one can buy an 18 channel RC controller and spend all day seeing if you can commandeer one.  I'm sure there's lots of youths with time on their hands to attempt this.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:22 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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No... No, Obama landed one there...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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NOooo thats not OUR drone! Its clearly a gefilte fish!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment doomandbloom
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more like SkyFall

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:24 | Link to Comment cspg
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All your strip- are belong to us

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:26 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Sounds like Sasha Baron Cohen doing the narrative in his dictator voice.....

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:26 | Link to Comment Darkness
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Drones here, drones there, drones everywhere. 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment goldnguns
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perhaps the drone is not done reporting and has a GPS position reporter transmitter. 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment no taste
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Crossroads GPS can no longer afford reporters.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment KingTut
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JDAM locking as we speak!

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment bankonzhongguo
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These aren't the drones we're looking for.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:32 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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scrape the paint off. if it is made of usa clownbux it came from izreel.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment fuu
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Well, folks, I have...

a drone...

I have a drone that one day, I alone will have the right to assassinate anyone, whether at home or abroad...

I have a drone: no more habeas corpus; and more powers to detain and use excessive force...

Dont' let this...uh... War-Is-Peace prize fool you! I've bombed a whole heap a folks to pieces 'n my first term ain't even completed. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpMPu5p_QXU

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:44 | Link to Comment pods
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Shit, lost another ObamaDrone!  Krugman says that is bullish!

pods

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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What's the big deal either way?  Unless it's full of nerve gas or bio agents.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Maybe it's a trojan rabbit..

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:17 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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maybe it's a trojan condom. that's what they really need.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:20 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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better make it "ribbed for her pleasure"... Otherwise the women might not feel anything at all...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment knukles
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maybe its a rubber fish sexdoll

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 17:57 | Link to Comment JohnFrodo
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There is something disquieting about a war with twitter updates from the particpants. Do they not take it seriously?

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:06 | Link to Comment dinastar2
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Oy Vey Mr Durden you missmatch a 15 year old boy 's model toy ( scale 1/15 ) with a real military spying drone . Did you smoke some illegal substance ? They have very good haschih in Gaza, so please fly over the oceans and let us join you into your feverish childhood excitation about downed drones and others military feats . Mr Durden, take it easy , this kind of flare - up is recurrent in the Mid East.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:09 | Link to Comment mayavision2012
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I don't get these people.  First, FB trots out their IPO right in the middle of a lunar eclipse followed by a venus/sun transit and looked what happened.  So what does Bibi do at a solar eclipse this week?  I see "floodgates" alright.  Agh.

I emailed my friend 2 days ago with my opinon on the astrological aspects of this particular eclipse:  I said -

(Quote) This particular eclipse has "emotional release" all over it, astrologically speaking. Like a vast collective emotional build-up on the verge of release. As though everyone has been standing on the collective beach wondering why the sea is receding so far out into the ocean and then - bam - the tidal wave makes it appearance.

That "bam" may come sooner than we would like.

(Unquote)

http://news.yahoo.com/total-solar-eclipse-today-last-until-2015-07223941...

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Cow
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Looks like it just came out of the box.  Would've expected a couple of scratches or something.  Maybe, the muzzies forgot.  They're not the sharpest at faking stuff.

In previous vids, they used the same actors hauled away on stretchers.  Pretty funny stuff, really.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:16 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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And then there were those great videos of ObL after 9/11.

Maybe those weren't the muzzies after all.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:18 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:40 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Isnt that standard operating procedure with the military of every country? DENY..

Didnt the US deny Iran shot down one of their drones then confirmed?

Basically, they all lie when they need to.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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Exactly right.

No one is going to own up to having one of their spy drones downed.

Francis Gary Powers U2 shot down over Soviet Union in the late 50's.  US state Dept. not only denied it, they denied they ever made any spy flights over that country.

SOP ever since.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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The first rule of politics: never believe anything until it's been officially denied

The second rule of politics: It is only totalitarian governments that suppress facts. In this country we simply take a democratic decision not to publish them.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment seek
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http://www.popsci.com/technology/gallery/2010-02/gallery-future-drones?i...

Looks like a Skylite to me, but who knows when/how/where the footage came from, but visually it seems to match the drones they use for border surveilance.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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it's in the contract that any Israel drone that is about to be shot down automatically gets sold back to the USA at full price...

 

so yes, it was not an IDF drone when it got shot down

 

 

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Downtoolong
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Someone is lying here

I deny that I lied about denying that. No wait, I mean, I lied about denying my lie about that. Shit that’s not right either. What I meant to say was I deny my denial of lying about that.

Oh fuck you, they’re the enemy, so whatever they say is a lie. Don’t quote me on that or I’ll deny it.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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The IDF has a long and proven track record of lies. In their long occupation of Southern Lebanon they were under frequent attack by a growing resistance by Hezbolla as Hezbolla grew in military power and fighting skill. For a long time the IDF denied the claims by Hezbolla of successful attacks on the IDF occupation forces. Then Hezbolla hit upon the idea of filming their attacks and releasing videos to the media, pre youtube days.

Once videos of tanks and APCs and jeeps blowing up and video of dead Israeli infantry began to arrive at media outlets, the IDF could no longer deny they were being hit badly by Hezbolla fighters. Eventually the IDF ran away from Southern Lebanon as Israeli citizens became fed up with the increasing casualties that Hezbolla inflicted and left entirely. That is when Hezbolla fortified Southern Lebanon in preparation for the next Israeli invasion. The invasion eventually came and the IDF had their asses handed to them by a well prepared defense.

This is all part of the historical record, it can be confirmed by a little research. IDF have always been liars, only when video confirms their losses will they admit to them. This is why hezbolla has video of Israeli tanks knocked out in the fighting and also of dead Israeli commandos killed in a deadly ambush during the Lenbanon war. Either have it on tape, or IDF denies it. This is a proven fact.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Dani
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Is this the same Hamas blatantly caught faking injuries on the BBC? - link here ww.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Vms2eAeUU&feature=youtu.be

 

 

2:10: The first focal point is a suspiciously unscathed man in a tan jacket who in the video is lifted by a group of men and carried away.

2:23: Next, a medic is shown carrying another spotlessly clean medic Forrest Gump-style until he seemingly tires out and simply puts the man back on his feet.

2:38: The next image is of what appears to be a mother shepherding two children down the road, perhaps totally frightened, but unharmed. I genuinely felt upset watching this seemingly terrified trio flee until they ran smack into the first “injured” man in the tan jacket, who is now standing around, one sandwich shy of a lunch break on set.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 03:31 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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Anyone seen my drone?

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 05:48 | Link to Comment Supernova Born
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Obama won. Iran is on the card.

We know you can trash the special needs gimp you keep next door.

Letting a drone run out of gas is like Frito-Lay permitting regional potato chip makers to remain in business to avoid charges of monopolistic practices.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 06:27 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Hey, it looks like the R/C modeller I lost in 1969.

I want the motor back, bitchez! And the servos!

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 04:37 | Link to Comment cbhattarai
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I was not expecting this kind of videos that i will see in terms of security it becomes important that people uses a proper security cameras so that they can capture the footage more clearly..

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