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Chart Of The Day: The World's Scariest Divergence

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We like to keep our charts just simple enough that a PhD in Economics can understand them; and so we present what must be the scariest chart in the world for much of the developing (and for that matter developed) world. Demand for food is rising inexorably (as is the demand for fuel) but at the same time supply is falling rapidly as the availability of arable land per capita plunges. Perhaps this (along with central bank liquidity spillovers) explains the 'paradigm' shift in staple prices. Food for thought? (pun intended)

Rising demand... meet falling supply...

 

and the impact...

 

Charts: Goldman Sachs

 

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Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:12 | 2988715 Neethgie
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Reckon im gonna fill my outbuilding with a fuckton of beans...

It's not that i would go hungry

its just that once others start going hungry at very low prices... shit gets bad fast.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:17 | 2988751 Popo
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Bernanke is causing inflation in food, energy and housing.  That is the epitome of evil.

These are not "asset classes", Ben.  These are things vital for human survival.   ie:  Bernanke represents a severe security threat to the life and safety of Americans.  

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:26 | 2988805 Neethgie
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Shit gets real when people in the west can't afford a few beers with their food.. which wont be long.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:06 | 2989003 francis_sawyer
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This is just a IMF/GS chart porn con job to get you to start thinking you need to accept an AGENDA 21 future...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:17 | 2989045 MillionDollarBogus_
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Soylent Green is what came to mind after looking at this thread............

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:02 | 2989271 Matt
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Forget Soylent Green, We're going right to Shit Sandwiches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvSPQ7megQ

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:40 | 2989499 SwampHonkey
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You can have your shit sandwich.....I will be 1 step above.....I my friend have the other gold..........Spam bitches its what for dinner.....Brb going to check the spam index.....

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:17 | 2989864 ultraticum
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Pause the video at exactly 1:34.  The label on mad scientist's refridgerator:  Shit Burger.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:47 | 2989175 gabeh73
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you got that right...this is similar to the Peak Oil BS. Depopulation, one-child policy for those less equal than others and all food comes from Monsanto in order to sterlize us.

 

Food prices, like energy prices go in cycles related to investment etc. Shale gas was call a scam by the peak oil fear-mongers.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:45 | 2990054 Seer
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Pack whatever toys you showed up with and go home.  You've been dismissed.

Always the same with the deniers... it's a handy excuse for not learning simple math*; it's a handy excuse for expecting others to bail out their sorry asses when reality does in fact appear.

* Denying there are limits means that you HAVE to say that there are no physical limitations on earth, that, in essence, the earth isn't a sphere (I'd tried thinking about this, that because our eyes invert all images that perhaps we are on the inside of a curve rather than the outside- if so, then there'd be a shot for a more  substantial supply of stuff being sucked from the earth [as there would be a near infinite strata below us]).  Anyway, easier test is to cram everyone into YOUR home, because, well, there are no physical limits so everyone should fit fine.

Where the fuck do you people come from?  For you I'm thinking that I'd have to root for Monsanto for ONCE in my life...

NOTE: being pigheaded usually results in slaughter...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:07 | 2989833 Boris Alatovkrap
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... or is try vodka. Vodka is powerful for drink, astringent, anesthetic, antiseptic, and but is lean, can work as automobile fuel. Did I say drink?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:27 | 2988808 Dalago
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I always thought that the scariest divergence was Janet Napolitano's right leg diverging from her left leg...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:37 | 2988856 edifice
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Oh, God. Thanks... I no longer need lunch.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:59 | 2988982 Overfed
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Damn you for putting that image in my head!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:08 | 2989011 ElvisDog
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Where is WilliamBanzai when we need him????

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:21 | 2989058 Offthebeach
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Wasn't that a scene in John Carpenter's remake of 'The Thing's? I think Kurt Russel's character had to use a sawed off, double barreled 12ga to " repulse " it. Maybe douse it in av-gas and burn it's hide off. Yeah, I'm sure it was a then juvenile Big Sis. Today? You'd need kiloton heat to off that nasty, old, Leszard Queen.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:43 | 2989511 SwampHonkey
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Damn..... D

OH .......thats just nasty.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 17:38 | 2989725 archon
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... where no man has gone before.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:05 | 2989825 gloogle
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IT'S A TRAP!!!

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 16:55 | 2992206 TBT or not TBT
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That was Helen Thomas, but yeah.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:32 | 2988836 orangegeek
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And those who voted Barry are getting what they asked for.  What's that you ask?  Well Barry doesn't like to talk about those things.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:56 | 2988967 smlbizman
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i think the 47 million ebt users probably have a bigger effect on our food cost....when it is not your money ,you dont care the cost...so take ur local grocer...he demos his customers thru some discount card and sees how and what they buy. than adjust the pricing on these products accordingly.....

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:14 | 2989343 Urban Redneck
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They (as well as most Americans) keep voting for politicians who would rather use farmland for ethanol production than for food production.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:50 | 2990073 Seer
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Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right...  Suckers on the "left" fell for this shit which was being pushed from the "right" (the corn lobby, which got a HUGE push to power thanks to Ag Sec Earl Butz [who also promoted HFCS]).

I've spent a chunk of my life trying to push back on ethanol/biofuels.  As Willie Nelson says, it's (biofuels) fine if it stays ON the farm.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:05 | 2989002 Lore
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The Smart Growthers will insist that it's all due to Global Warming and save the world by Densifying your ass.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:52 | 2990080 Seer
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As Dr. Bartlett says, smart growth is just dumb growth with taste.  And, ALL growth leads to the cliff...  one (dumb growth) just assures you get there faster.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:27 | 2989417 Jack Burton
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Quite right Popo! Bernanke is the focus of evil in the modern world. The people whose interests he serves are also part of this circle of evil.

Bernanke is focused on flooding money into banks and into stock equity. This in order to reward a certain class of people, while all this liquidity he hands out gets poured into speculation on food and fuel, which are subject to real world pressures of supply that are made ever so much worse by the Bernanke free money.

Bernanke could end up killing millions through lack of food and fuel for many a nation's lower classes of people. Bernanke sleeps well at night because his circle of bankers, hedge funders and speculators like private equity feast on the trillions he hands out to them.

Bernanke is an evil man, and serves greedy evil interests. We know who stands behind Bernanke, and the giant USA police state and vast war making potential are there to be the enforcers of the Bernanke world order. To any person world wide, I tell you that if you stand up to fight against Bernanke and his system, they will kill you, or send you to a secret CIA torture facility in which you will be beaten and water boarded into confession of crimes you did not do.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:00 | 2990115 Seer
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Well... one KEY issue is that there are no real investments out there anymore because there's not sufficient energy to fuel growth.  Investing in food (which is human fuel) isn't evil or stupid.  And as someone who bought some Ag land I can hardly ridicule others for focusing on food.  If people are so worried about all this then rather than complain, grow food.  Sooner or later the BIG corporate Ag model will breakdown, whether from over-speculation or not.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:53 | 2988955 WillyGroper
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2 birds with 1 stone - food & fuel ;o)

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:19 | 2989372 AGuy
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<SARC>No problem, We'll all just swipe our SNAP\EBT cards for free food!  </SARC>

<SARC Lvl2>No problem, I will just plant some Pizza and some KFC seeds on my front lawn. BTW, where can a I buy Seeds for Pizza? </SARC>

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:33 | 2989460 Stuck on Zero
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Hoarding beans will solve two problems: food and gas.

 

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 06:28 | 2991229 Svendblaaskaeg
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"beans...shit gets bad fast"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sY_3YrNfsQ

 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:21 | 2993491 MSimon
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Malthusians have been wrong for 200+ years. But this time its different.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:12 | 2988716 Coldsun
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Now I'm hungry

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:26 | 2988777 hedgeless_horseman
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Problem?

Solution:  Fresh chicken legs roasted with garlic and lemon, salad from the garden, and home made whole grain bread topped with butter from our milk cow.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:27 | 2988811 Aguadulce
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.....said no American ever.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:19 | 2989047 ParkAveFlasher
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Does that farm make Twinkies? 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:28 | 2988813 Dalago
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With or without GMOs?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:47 | 2988847 hedgeless_horseman
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Not genetically modified, apart from generations of selective breeding, but certainly all heritage breeds.

Got incubator?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:54 | 2988957 Harbanger
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When I was 7 yrs old I hatched six quail eggs with an incubator I made with 2 boxes and a light bulb.  My mom wanted to kill me, we lived in an apt.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:58 | 2988981 icanhasbailout
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They look delicious

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:02 | 2988990 francis_sawyer
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PEEPS bitchez!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:38 | 2988868 RSloane
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Yes!!! That looks delicious. Its feel so great to eat the food you produce. Big +100 to you HH.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:07 | 2989000 Overfed
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Inspirational.

So far I've built my garden boxes, a new shed for garden tools and whatnot, planted a half dozen blueberry bushes, a bee hive, and added a hlaf dozen fruit trees to the four that were on my property. Coming in spring, poultry pen/housing, rabbit pen/housing (so they can free-range a bit), more blueberries, at least one more hive, and three more fruit trees. Actually, I'll plant the trees this fall and put in my rainwater collection system.

Self-reliance, bitchez!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 17:40 | 2989722 hedgeless_horseman
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So glad to hear it. 

Do you have a copy of The Encyclopedia of Country Living and The French Menu Cookbook?

Both are enjoyable to read and excellent resources.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 17:49 | 2989770 Overfed
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I'll have to pick up a copy of the Country Living Encyclopedia. I'm willing to be that my wife has the second one.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:05 | 2989001 forwardho
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H H, I was wondering if you would post another great HOME cooked meal. You sir are a true hero.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:48 | 2989536 SwampHonkey
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Damn Highroller.......Im going to start calling you J.D. Rockerfella

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:52 | 2989937 jomama
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tomatoes in november, eh...?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:29 | 2990225 Kali
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yes, mine in my greenhouse are doing just fine.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:49 | 2990452 Mediocritas
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Good stuff HH.

The more people start to grow their own, the more the economists will tear their hair out: "but but, what about the ECONOMY!! It doesn't add to GDP when you grow your own!! You're robbing all the middle-men who would have added their pointless layers of expense! You're reducing the number of transactions in the economy and reducing monetary velocity! THIS HAS TO STOP! Think of the impact to GDP man, you're not thinking of the eCONomy!"

Fucking economists. They don't actually have any damn clue what an "economy" really is.

Power to ya mate.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:25 | 2988798 Stock Tips Inve...
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A very important element is economic growth in poor countries. While the U.S. economy and Europe will not grow or grows very little, emerging economies are growing very rapidly. As of 2015, six of the 10 fastest growing countries come from Africa. And now come from Asia and South America. The number of hectares per capita is important. But as the yield per hectare is also growing rapidly, these two effects could be compensated. More important is the number of calories consumed per capita. This figure has been growing very strongly in the past seven years. This really is more demand for people. This creates pressure on food demand and increased prices. That's the number.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:20 | 2989056 irishlink
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Western countries are dumbing 25% of the food they but because of stupid sell by dates and ZERO knowledge of good housekeeping . Rectify that and there would be no shortage. Europe also pays farmers to keep productive land fallow!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:26 | 2990208 Seer
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And roughly 1/3 of all protein is the result of fossil fuels.

Nearly ALL food has a shelf life.  As fossil fuels become more expensive the shelf life of food will have more pressures since the majority of food is trucked long distances.

Corporate Ag IS efficient. But it's efficient because of fossil fuels.

If you don't understand the function of lying land in fallow then by all means push to mine it until the soil is just Dirt.  NOTE: there ARE rotations and other management tools that CAN reduce (or eliminate) the need, but it still holds that if you're taking stuff off of the land you need to put stuff BACK or allow it to regenerate more naturally (and this takes time).

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:12 | 2988718 Titus Flavius C...
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I think gmo corn is already hard at work killing the sperm in our scrotsacks.

 

Just lanes on the highway - opening right up..

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:38 | 2988865 Harbanger
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Who cares, the Feminazi already did away with our scrotsacks.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:13 | 2988723 dwdollar
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Only scary if you want the current paradigm to continue...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:28 | 2990217 Seer
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Ding, ding!  Winner!

AND, it's even scarier to think that people believe that it COULD continue...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:13 | 2988725 Metalredneck
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*burp*

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:14 | 2988727 repete
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wish sandwich bitches

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:27 | 2989422 Citxmech
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"Bow, bow, bow, bow. . . "

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:14 | 2988732 Aguadulce
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While obviously mutually exclusive, the obesity index is surprisingly correlated to both the food demand and the Price of raw grains.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:15 | 2988734 MsCreant
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We keep kicking the can and dodging bullets. We are living inside a delusion. This is not sustainable.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:30 | 2988827 Titus Flavius C...
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Krugmanbearpig not only disagrees with you, he suggested that you have intercourse with your own mother.

 

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:30 | 2990230 Seer
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Not disagreeing that Krugman is a dumb fucker, but please name anyone elected or who has high visibility that states that growth is a problem.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:14 | 2988736 ebworthen
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Homes, apartment complexes, strip malls being built on prime farmland.

Yields per acre propped by oil and genetic engineering.

More and more people, less land and water.

Recipe for wars.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:30 | 2988823 centerline
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Consider that everything now relies on very complex supply chains.  Is a recipe for an disaster of epic proportions.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:06 | 2989005 Skateboarder
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I'm getting giddy thinking about the whole damn thing unraveling. It'll be like a million jillion tape measures all trying to retract at the same time while crossing each other.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:00 | 2990789 Tegrat
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I dont care how much one is prepared, it's gonna suck. We are going to miss the matrix life. Just got back from a vacation in Mexico. Man what a blast. Already missing what we had...

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 20:32 | 2990233 Seer
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Yup, like I've been saying, BIG = FAIL!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:15 | 2988738 NeedleDickTheBu...
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Factor in no more Twinkies and the supply line would look even worse.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:52 | 2989554 BraveSirRobin
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Twinkies do not require arable land, just some well heads and a robust chemical industry.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:16 | 2988742 machinegear
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I just had a cheeseburger that was prepared for me and cost almost nothing. WTF are you talking about?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:18 | 2988756 Dr. Engali
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Are you sure that was meat in that cheeseburger...for that matter are you sure that was cheese?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:56 | 2988969 WillyGroper
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wood. double entendre

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:12 | 2989026 machinegear
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Why does that matter? The meal was 1120 calories. It was cheap fuel. Articles like this are nothing but hype.

 

That one $5 meal provided as many calories as most on this planet take in during a whole day... and they get by just fine. Food in the US is a non-issue. No one is going to starve here.

 

Now if you look outside the US, like New Jersey, there might be an issue.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:34 | 2989122 Pinktip
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A calorie is a measure unit of energy,   same as a BTU.  Nothing to do with nutrition.

Unless you grew it yourself organically or bought true organic. , your starving and don't even know it......

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:50 | 2989546 francis_sawyer
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Technically ~ it's a unit of 'heat'... But it doesn't alter your point...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:45 | 2989919 cornedmutton
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No, it is a unit of energy.  A (kilo)calorie is the amount of ENERGY needed to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 degree Celcius at standard atmospheric pressure, or approximately 4.2 kilojoules (kJ).

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:04 | 2989939 francis_sawyer
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Ummm... HEAT (which is produced when energy is released) is what's required to raise the temperature of ANYTHING... But thanks for playing 'Bill Nye the Science Guy' anyway...

A kJ is a measured unit of energy... a calorie is [technically], the meaurement of heat involved in that process...

If you want to further your dipshit education, try learning Latin (where the 'root' definitions of these terms exist)...

Feel the burn bitchez!...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:53 | 2990067 cornedmutton
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The SI unit for heat is the Joule (J).  A unit of energy.

I don't know what you think heat is, but I'm fairly certain you're confused on the matter.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 00:22 | 2992988 juliawong
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Calories and Kj are interchangeable like Energy and Mass are interchangeable (via the e equals mc square link), in case you didn't realize.

http://www.asknumbers.com/joules-to-calorie.aspx

They just invented Calories to fit with the whole "Units tied to the Water properties" thing.

The other day, I was measuring 330 ml of water by putting them on a kitchen scale due to the fact I don't have any cola cans (have stopped drinking pops for years now) and not have a proper measuring cup.

330 grams is what you need for 330 mililitres of H2O. ;)

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:16 | 2988743 mrktwtch2
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well we need to cull the herd one way or another..either that or just spray a sterlizing aerosol over the far east..lol

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:17 | 2988745 Dr. Engali
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The upcoming world war will take care of the population problem and we won't need as much arable land with the giant mutant gmo crops as a result of the fallout.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:17 | 2988748 Rathmullan
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Need Hostess more than eva!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:17 | 2988749 NEOSERF
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My company works on strengthening tooth enamel so that humans can eat rocks, ticker BTME

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:17 | 2988752 stopcpdotcom
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"Will think for food."

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:21 | 2988755 francis_sawyer
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Tilapia farms bitchez... But even that will only last so long because when the jews get wind of the idea, they'll mobilize 75,000, come steal your farm, & grind up your West Nile perch to make gefilte fish balls...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:31 | 2988830 cifo
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George W. on an jewish dinner: "Do you guys eat the matzos as well or only the balls"?

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:12 | 2989330 Matt
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Halt the Press! Breaking News! Get the scoop here: Garbage in = Garbage Out!

If you feed the fish hormones and toxic food, the fish will not be good for you!

Thank you, Conan, for this amazing news story. Back to you, Ken.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:55 | 2989568 francis_sawyer
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Your point is taken... However ~ my point had more to do with the fact that the charts were everything to do with 'arable farmland', which, in a pinch, is a CANARD problem that can be overcome in a variety of ways... It's a LONG discussion... Fuck ~ grow peanuts & raise pigs for all I care (fat = 9 calories per gram [which is what you'd be looking for in a STARVATION scenario])...

~~~

Garbage in Garbage out... So I suppose you prefer GMO corn?...

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 13:35 | 2991825 Matt
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What? I was replying to the (Conan the Libertarian) guy with the posted link that Tilapia can be bad for you. The link basically just said that if the people raising the tilapia feed them hormones and GMO feed, then the fish will not be good to eat.

Hopefully, if you are growing your own food, you don't stuff them full of hormones etc and expect them to be healthier than what you buy in the store.

If I say that feeding the fish hormones and GMO corn results in garbage fish, how and why would you think that indicates I want to eat garbage fish?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:19 | 2988762 Madcow
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the collapsing US economy will keep the dollar strong enough for people to afford food with their savings -  right?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:28 | 2988816 seek
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Savings? Nice one.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:20 | 2988767 Dr. Engali
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I have an idea....why don't we burn more food in our gas tanks?..Fucking brilliant.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:21 | 2988780 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Do you realize the potential for growing vegetables, fruits and various sundries across suburbia ?

Easy access to water, plenty of light and arable soil, ease of transportation.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:29 | 2988819 flattrader
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growingpower.org

gardenpool.org

Enjoy.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 14:33 | 2991934 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Interesting.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:37 | 2989482 Citxmech
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Not so sure about the longevity of those water supplies. . .

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:15 | 2990672 archon
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Sure, if you live in a place where the cops don't write tickets for growing food stuff in your yard, haul grannies off to jail for defying them, and water restrictions.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 14:33 | 2991933 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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That's just wrong. That has to change.

The cops may come to their senses after forcibly being weaned off of Twinkies.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:22 | 2988782 tbone654
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Let's just chemically sterilze EVERYONE right now through the food...  Shouldn't be too hard...  Turn this planet back into paradise in about 100 years...  Last one out, please turn off the lights...  sarc...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:41 | 2988894 Bastiat
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Last one out, please turn off the lights...

But please don't turn off the juice to the 100s of nuke spent fuel pools.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:22 | 2988785 Toxicosis
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Overpopulation!!  BAH!!  We'll start growing all our food at the bottom of the ocean.  I hope lots of religionists and new-agers chime in on this article to support their never-ending fantasies of everything will turn out just fine, all you have to do is believe.  The german pope and right wing nut-job fundamentalists should engage in promoting 'moar' consumption and baby making so that we can fill the whole fucking planet with humans and waste, cause that's what their biblical supernatural deity told them to do. 

A finite world with limits to growth is an athiestic fallacy promulgated by the so called 'scientific' community with alleged ties to the Morgan's and Rockefeller's.  I mean come on how could anybody think no matter the facts that we've hit peak oil, peak food, peak fresh water, and possibly peak material resources to run this fucking ship.  The whole thing is a conspiracy I tell ya, a conspiracy!!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:23 | 2988786 Drachma
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Arable land is not disappearing, it's just being put economically out of reach for small farmers. Add in the land-grabs for UN "sanctuaries", Monsanto's destruction of the ecosystem, etc, and there you go. Orderly mass starvation.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:30 | 2990398 Seer
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"Arable land is not disappearing, it's just being put economically out of reach for small farmers."

Arable land is being EXHAUSTED (through mining).  You cannot continue to take out nutrients forever without having to put some back in (or abandoning the land).

This shit has been going on for a LONG time- just as most indigenous cultures.

Price is gong up because all the good stuff has already been put in production.  Anyone who has actually cleared land can tell you that it don't come cheap or easy.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:23 | 2988789 q99x2
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There goes that increase in population that is going to drive up agricultural land values Invest in weapons manufacturers. But I won't.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:24 | 2988795 Confundido
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Too Malthusian for my taste...however, one has to acknowledge that with central banks printing money, the innovation required to increase productivity and feed raising numbes is not going to be there. Yes, food prices rise, but they are not a signal to produce more. They rise precisely because supply falls, regardless of the disposable arable land.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:37 | 2990424 Seer
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Yeah, there's no such thing as limits!  Limits are for pussies!

"Innovation" will overcome EVERY problem!  Just look at what innovation coupled with trillions of dollars got us, the ultimate innovation by the financial sector.

You're just the kind of person that those peddling ETFs are looking for.  Risk?  Pfft!  We'll innovate it away!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:27 | 2988804 tmosley
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Index those prices in gold, not fiat.  Room to grow, bitchez.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:28 | 2988814 Drunken Monkey
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We can just print more rice and oil can't we?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:29 | 2988821 lasvegaspersona
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I has canned bacon

 

 

 

 

which I will defend because I am a man!!!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:30 | 2988828 Joe Davola
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Logan's Run was close, exept the part about youth percentage.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:35 | 2988841 Dr. Engali
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Shit! I have to get going bitchez!......I'm 20 years late for carousel.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:40 | 2988884 Joe Davola
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I missed the whole hedonistic lifestyle too!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:32 | 2988833 icanhasbailout
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Can I see an index against something other than the wholly manipulated US dollar? Something of reasonably stable value, perhaps?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:32 | 2988835 Oldwood
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Exactly who's population is growing. I thought that most western world had stopped growing and many had gone negative. Population growth in the US is mostly immigration is it not. And isn't that the same for Europe? Given that the US is a food exporter and our population isn't growning nearly as much as other parts of the world, would that not be a plus, economically for us? Of course we wouldn't want other societies to suffer, so I guess the most humane thing to do is assign them death panels!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:41 | 2988892 orangegeek
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US is the only industrialized country with positive population growth - just over 2.1 kids per couple. 

 

South America, Asia and Africa breed like rabbits.  South Am plus Mexico - 500M, Africa - 1.0B, Asia - 4.1B.  Total is 5.6B

 

World Pop:  7B

 

Europe and North Am are fading.  Asia and Africa are starving.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:16 | 2989355 Matt
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If they were starving, their populations wouldn't be growing.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:42 | 2988900 icanhasbailout
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The third world is dumping a large part of its excess population growth onto the (perhaps-not-for-much-longer-)first world. That's why countries with a net near-zero births-deaths rate are still seeing significant population increases.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:01 | 2990480 Seer
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The "first world" has been IMPORTING said "excess."  Refer to import quotas and, in the case of the US, special work visas (H-1B).

As the demographic tide really turns hard on "first world" countries there will be huge drops in population sizes.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:33 | 2988840 disabledvet
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Long "security detail to ride along with said truck driver."

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:36 | 2988851 AgLand
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Glad I'm a farmer.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:07 | 2990797 Tegrat
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Hope you can keep it against the millions of entitlement people who feel a stronger right to your deed than you do.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 14:45 | 2988920 Zen Bernanke
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Not buying these silly dire predictions GS is making.  A free market economy can and will resolve any supply/demand/price dynamics all by itself over time, with the only caveat being, naturally, if the gov't stick its nose into it and screws it up. 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:03 | 2990483 Seer
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Any "free market" is no match for the physical realities handed out by Mother Nature.

It's called living within our means: ALL living things do so; it's hubristic humans that think that they can violate the laws of nature.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:01 | 2988986 shutdown
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Glad I never eat.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:03 | 2988994 Chuck Norris
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This is bullish for Cannibalism.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:05 | 2990489 Seer
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I'd always thought of a more friendly way to put it: "bullish for compost!"  When I see how out of touch with reality that so many are I just remind myself that compost is essential...  the thought of eating such folks makes me think of mad human disease...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:07 | 2989008 notadouche
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Top chart end in 2009.  Bottom chart ends in 2012.  Misleading much? 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:08 | 2989013 A Lunatic
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Let them eat gulag.................

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:13 | 2989029 Terrorist
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"It's People!"

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:15 | 2989036 forwardho
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For those who rely on EBT. As of 1:40 P.M. EST, JPM reporting "computer" problems as reason Florida EBT cards down. Just drove by innercity (Miami) Wally world, lots of police at storefront. hope those yuksters at JPM get their poop together.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:34 | 2989150 New World Chaos
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Practice run?

When the time comes, it will be very easy to sic the hordes of starving fat people on evil small business owners and the dregs of the middle class.  The cops will protect Wally World.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:10 | 2990500 Seer
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They're Wally World's cops: it's the System's cops, and Wally World IS a main component of the System.  Small farmers can't afford cops (profit margins, if any, are way too narrow).

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:07 | 2990497 Seer
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ALL systems eventually fail.  And BIG systems fail spectacularly.

BIG = FAIL!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:15 | 2989037 immanuelgeek
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How about plotting also the yield / ha?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:56 | 2989224 swabeyjw
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Agreed. If anyone here follows and believes the broken logic of theses charts, I have some old mortgage backed securities at face value for you.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:13 | 2990512 Seer
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Do tell.  Step up and provide us with the necessary "corrections" won't you?

Here's some data here that you could crunch and report back on: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.YLD.CREL.KG

BTW - If one we to have looked at US oil production up to 1970 one would have had the impression that it would always go up.  And then 1971 hit.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:17 | 2989043 DUNTHAT
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BETTER START BONING UP ON FUTURES -- ESPECIALLY THE GRAINS AND SOFTS.

www.CommitmentsOfTradersAnalytics.com

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:35 | 2989125 pragmatic hobo
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it's interesting to note the price spike beginning around 2006 just as debt bubble enters blow-off phase and now appears to entering another blow-off phase as centralbank bubble appears to be nearing peak. As far as I can tell the end-demand did not double during this period nor did supply get cut in half. Therefore I have to assume when centralbank bubble pops, and it will pop, the commodity price will take at least 50% hair-cut and I consider gold and silver, along with oil and equity prices, to be commodity.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:17 | 2990526 Seer
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It's ultimately about affordability.  What the actual prices are don't matter: when currencies are massively manipulated it's kind of hard to take any valuations seriously, therefore it's best to just skip past them and see how the "consumers" are doing vis a vis food.

There's really no "ahead" to go to.  It's a fictitious place.  Best one can do is to ensure one covers the only true fundamentals: Food, Shelter and Water.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:41 | 2989144 Michelle
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Geez, there will always be enough food and the price will adjust as necessary. Yes, it may go up but then demand will go down and farmers are in the business for profit, not social endeavors so production will also adjust accordingly.

Don't know too many folks looking like the've missed a meal anyhow, maybe they could push themselves away from the table or veer their car away from MCD's and save themselves 10% on food and calories.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 15:59 | 2989251 omi
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How much can you honestly trust OECD data?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 16:01 | 2989261 ShrNfr
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That is ok, Obama still wants us to put ethanol from corn in our gasoline.

 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 18:50 | 2989933 jomama
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you couldn't eat fuel-grade corn even if you wanted to. 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 19:48 | 2990064 Curt W
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Yeah but they could stop growing that crap and grow edibles in its place.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 01:24 | 2990956 epwpixieq-1
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Research little about EIOER (Energy Invested On Energy Returned) coefficient about the so called biofuels, and (hopefully) with enough intelligence you will figure out why such thing is the the worst case scenario for the industrial civilization.

If only there was no so much money in the Energy business, the world would have been such a different place.

" ... It is only a matter of time when humans will attach their (electrical) machinery to the very Wheelwork of Nature " - Nikola Tesla

 

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