Guest Post: What's Next In The Middle East?

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics

What's Next In The Middle East?

While the missiles, planes and rockets fly over Gaza and Israel, both Hamas and the Israeli government have been engaged in a battle of social media.

Hamas:

 

And Israel:

It is a battle to shape the perceptions of the rest of the world.

The IDF appears so far to have the upper hand in terms of social media, having notched up 143,000 followers on Twitter, although Hamas’ al-Qassam Brigades are in swift pursuit having just climbed above 20,000 followers.

Yet to view this as a simple conflict between Hamas and Israel is too superficial. It ignores the history and the context. This is a much bigger and broader tapestry.

Glenn Greenwald writes:

Israel‘s escalating air attacks on Gaza follow the depressingly familiar pattern that shapes this conflict. Overwhelming Israeli force slaughters innocent Palestinians, including children, which is preceded (and followed) by far more limited rocket attacks into Israel which kill a much smaller number, rocket attacks which are triggered by various forms of Israeli provocations  — all of which, most crucially, takes place in the context of Israel’s 45-year-old brutal occupation of the Palestinians (and, despite a “withdrawal” of troops, that includes Gaza, over which Israel continues to exercise extensive dominion). The debates over these episodes then follow an equally familiar pattern, strictly adhering to a decades-old script that, by design at this point, goes nowhere.

And Michael Chussudovsky writes:

On November 14,  Hamas military commander Ahmed Jabari was murdered in a Israeli missile attack. In a bitter irony,  barely a few hours before the attack, Hamas received the draft proposal of a permanent truce agreement with Israel.

“Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip.”(Haaretz, November 15, 2012)

 

F-16 fighter planes, Apache helicopters and unmanned drones were deployed. Israeli naval forces deployed along the Gaza shoreline were involved in extensive shelling of civilian targets.

While Israel continues to enforce extreme restrictions on the lives of Palestinians, it has been inevitable that organisations like Hamas who promise resistance against Israel and Zionism will thrive. And while Hamas has thrived, Israel has continued to impose sanctions and restrictions. Both sides have been locked into a cycle of brutal retaliation (and a particularly suicidal cycle for the Palestinians).

In the latest skirmishes, Hamas has inflicted three Israeli casualties in rocket strikes, the Israeli military has already assassinated two high level Hamas commanders, and carried out successful strikes on dozens of Gazan targets resulting in thirty deaths.

But Israel and Hamas share a deeply interwoven history. The WSJ notes:

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Avner Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas.

And co-operation has continued between Hamas and Israel, even while they throw rockets at each other, and even while Hamas continues to receive funds and weapons from Israel’s major rivals, including Iran. Upon Ahmed Jabari’s killing, Haaretz noted:

Israel killed its subcontractor in Gaza.

 

The political outcome of the operation will become clear on January 22, but the strategic ramifications are more complex: Israel will have to find a new subcontractor to replace Ahmed Jabari as its border guard in the south.

Co-operation between Hamas and Israel should not be surprising. The two factions of hardliners — on one side Hamas, and on the other side Netanyahu’s coalition — validate each other’s existence. Without a state of perpetual enmity, the hardliners would find themselves marginalised. Nothing strengthens Hamas in Palestine like an Israeli rocket attack, and nothing strengthens Likud and Yisrael Beitenu in Israel like a Palestinian rocket attack.

However, Israel’s co-operation with Hamas may now be at an end. The surprise strike on Jabari may well be a sign that Hamas is to be cast aside and driven out of Gaza. This seems like the beginning of a new era in the middle east.

Now that the American election is out of the way, Netanyahu may be stepping toward engaging with Iran.

John Glaser, writing for AntiWar.com lays out one theory:

Israel, lest we forget, instigated this resumption of missile exchanges last week when two Palestinian civilians were shot and killed and Israeli tanks intruded into Gaza, prompting Gaza militants to respond by targeting Israeli soldiers, which then gave Israel an excuse to unleash successive airstrikes. And Israel had numerous chances to pacify the situation, considering Hamas publicly offered to establish a total ceasefire and Egypt appeared about to broker a truce between the two. Israel has intentionally inched towards escalation from the beginning. Are we to believe this isn’t strategic?

A ground invasion, and a reoccupation of Gaza by the IDF could be the first step toward engaging Iran. It would allow for Israel to dislodge Hamas, and create a buffer between Israel and Egypt, and the forces of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Morsi government in Egypt has pledged to support the Palestinians — but is this a bluff? Does Egypt have the capability or the desire to really oppose Israel? Does Iran really have the capability or the desire to oppose Israel in a more active way? Ultimately, Iran may have no choice, as Netanyahu is certain that they are on the nuclear threshold.

The world is in motion. Israel is playing its cards. The intent? To create facts on the ground that cement Israel’s position as the dominant power in the middle east for the next century.

Now, Iran’s move.

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Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:51 | 2990463 Ginsengbull
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Maybe 0bama will recognize palestine and gaza.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:06 | 2990490 EvlTheCat
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LOL, that would be hilarious..

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:32 | 2990569 strannick
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Northen Ireland stepped back from the endless cycle of violent reprisals.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:01 | 2990633 fightthepower
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Now we made them debt slaves, success for the Rothschilds.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:17 | 2990645 Dalago
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Judiasm is not Zionism. You REALLY want to know whats going to happen?  Isreal is going to try to plow over the two concentration camps, Gaza and West Bank, then plow over Syria then Iran.  THEN is going to divey up the land.  Oded Yenin created a think tank in the 1980's READ MORE HERE:  

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties

 

and here: http://muslimperspectives.com/?m=201208&paged=2

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:30 | 2990713 Spirit Of Truth
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What's going to happen is World War Three:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/11/extreme-danger-immediately-...

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/11/dow-13000-manic-depressive-...

Just as Russia, China and the Arab powers have been planning all along:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/russias-secret-war-plans.html

You all have been duped into self-defeat.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:33 | 2990864 cornflakesdisease
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The Bible tells us: “Generations come and generations go, while the earth endures for ever.” (Ecclesiastes 1:4, The New English Bible) Also, consider the implications of what is said at Isaiah 45:18: “This is what Jehovah has said, . . . the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.’”

Would a loving father spend many hours designing and building a toy boat for his son’s delight or a dollhouse for his daughter’s joy, only to destroy it moments after giving it to him or her? That would be cruel! In the same way, God created the earth primarily for the delight of his human creation. To the first human couple, Adam and Eve, God said: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it.” Thereafter, “God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.” (Genesis 1:27, 28, 31) God has not abandoned his purpose for the earth; he will not allow the earth to be destroyed. Regarding all that he has promised, Jehovah emphatically stated: “It will not return to me without results, but it will certainly do that in which I have delighted, and it will have certain success in that for which I have sent it.”—Isaiah 55:11.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:51 | 2990897 Spirit Of Truth
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What does God do when His children have become spoiled, disobedient brats?

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/11/harbinger-update-ny-governo...

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 02:14 | 2991001 Michaelwiseguy
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Israel has been oppressing Palestinians and stealing their land for decades.

Palestine has the right to self defense. Does the Sudan have a right to defend herself against Israel?

Satellite photos suggest air strike on Sudan Arms Plant

http://www.section9department17.com/1/post/2012/10/satellite-photos-suggest-air-strike-on-sudan-arms-plant.html

Sudan blames Israel for Khartoum arms factory blast

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20050781

 

Dennis Kucinich "American Drones In Pakistan Have Killed As Many As 3378 People!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upSSwMXlhko&feature=youtu.be

Drones Briefing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_UFggJCO-o&feature=youtu.be

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 02:24 | 2991040 Spirit Of Truth
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Israel's not innocent IMHO: http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/06/israels-jews-have-separated...

But a culture that values life is better than a culture that values death in my book.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 02:42 | 2991059 Michaelwiseguy
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Every other country on the planet know of Israel's dastardly hateful deadly deeds over its entire history, except for some people who live in the USA. Virtually the entire planet is now on the side of the Palestinians, and so am I.


Anonymous Destroys Israel By Taking Down Hundreds of Websites and Leaking Emails and Passwords

Here's a statement from Anonymous explaining why they attacked Israel:

Greetings World

For far too long, Anonymous has stood by with the rest of the world and watched in despair the barbaric, brutal and despicable treatment of the Palestinian people in the so called "Occupied Territories" by the Israel Defense Force. Like so many around the globe, we have felt helpless in the face of such implacable evil. And today's insane attack and threatened invasion of Gaza was more of the same.

But when the government of Israel publicly threatened to sever all Internet and other telecommunications into and out of Gaza they crossed a line in the sand. As the former dictator of Egypt Mubarack learned the hard way – we are ANONYMOUS and NO ONE shuts down the Internet on our watch. To the IDF and government of Israel we issue you this warning only once. Do NOT shut down the Internet into the "Occupied Territories", and cease and desist from your terror upon the innocent people of Palestine or you will know the full and unbridled wrath of Anonymous. And like all the other evil governments that have faced our rage, you will NOT survive it unscathed.

To the people of Gaza and the "Occupied Territories", know that Anonymous stands with you in this fight. We will do everything in our power to hinder the evil forces of the IDF arrayed against you. We will use all our resources to make certain you stay connected to the Internet and remain able to transmit your experiences to the world. As a start, we have put together the Anonymous Gaza Care Package – http://bit.ly/XH87C5 – which contains instructions in Arabic and English that can aid you in the event the Israel government makes good on it's threat to attempt to sever your Internet connection. It also contains useful information on evading IDF surveillance, and some basic first aid and other useful information. We will continue to expand and improve this document in the coming days, and we will transmit it to you by every means at our disposal. We encourage you to download this package, and to share it with your fellow Palestinians to the best of your ability.

We will be with you. No matter how dark it may seem, no matter how alone and abandoned you may feel – know that tens of thousands of us in Anonymous are with you and working tirelessly around the clock to bring you every aid and assistance that we can.

We Are Anonymous
We Are Everywhere
We Are Legion
We Do Not Forgive
We Do Not Forget

To the oppressors of the innocent Palestinian people, it is too late to EXPECT US

http://gizmodo.com/5961399/anonymous-destroys-israel-by-taking-down-hundreds-of-websites-and-leaking-emails-and-passwords?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

 

 

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 03:20 | 2991101 Pink Floyd
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First you are wrong. It is a lie that everybody but the US is against Israel and supports the Falestinians.

Second, since when the consensus is right? If that was the case, then: we would still believe our planet is the center of the universe, germs and bugs are created voluntarily out of thin air, there are witches and we should burn them alive, etc.


Sat, 11/17/2012 - 03:29 | 2991115 Michaelwiseguy
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People in other countries do not have the intensive level of brainwashing and mind control perpetrated on their people by the mainstream media like the USA. They actually talk openly about the fact Israel and Mossad did things like 9/11 in their TV news reports, among other unpleasant things. Europe doesn't have fluoride in their water, and their citizens are much more intelligent with higher IQs than the American people.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 04:28 | 2991166 Joe A
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Thanks for the praise on our IQ but if that is so, why then did 90% of Europeans want Obama to win the elections? Because most Europeans just like Americans are sheep who are more interested in who will be the next Idol instead of what the fuck is going on with the economy and politics. I felt never more embarrased of being a European when Obama drew these big crowds when he was in Europe.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 09:38 | 2991386 GetZeeGold
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Actually the current residents have a legal title buried somewhere....hell if I know where it is....but it is history.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 11:45 | 2991565 Abitdodgie
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Europe DOES have Fluride , but there food is better quality.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 08:21 | 2991313 Ayn NY
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Don't forget the consensus also believes that socialism viable way to run an economy. Most economists follow Keynsian economics - are they right? Guess what, most of the world can be wrong.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 12:44 | 2991696 Phat Stax
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Michael - looking out your window, do you see missles raining down on your house and land?  If not, you are in no position to pass judgement.  The Palestinians obviously do not study history more recent than the chapter from 2000 years ago - if they did they would rcognize that 1) no matter what is "right," those who are more powerful in this world tend to seize property from those who are not.  If you are an American, you must also feel a commensurate level of sympathy for the Mexicans.  2)  If you lob explosive shit at Israel, they tend to respond in multiples.  This is not new.  3) The Palestinians have refused to organize themselves in a way that holds their own accountable for offensive attacks on Israel.  The rationale that 2000+ years of history gives them license to perpetually claim be playing defense is not valid.  The world changes every day - the Palestinians have suffered but have not taken responsbility for changing their circumstances.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 04:45 | 2991180 beaglebog
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Israel is claiming, on FaceBook, that it has "the right to self-defence".

 

But, with the other side of its face, it pronounces that, "Iranians do not have the right to self-defence."

 

Statism, at its finest. "We may be armed as we see fit ...  but not you.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 01:19 | 2990943 q99x2
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"Earth's going to hell in a handbasket."--Me Today: 1.789

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:33 | 2990865 cornflakesdisease
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The Bible tells us: “Generations come and generations go, while the earth endures for ever.” (Ecclesiastes 1:4, The New English Bible) Also, consider the implications of what is said at Isaiah 45:18: “This is what Jehovah has said, . . . the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.’”

Would a loving father spend many hours designing and building a toy boat for his son’s delight or a dollhouse for his daughter’s joy, only to destroy it moments after giving it to him or her? That would be cruel! In the same way, God created the earth primarily for the delight of his human creation. To the first human couple, Adam and Eve, God said: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it.” Thereafter, “God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.” (Genesis 1:27, 28, 31) God has not abandoned his purpose for the earth; he will not allow the earth to be destroyed. Regarding all that he has promised, Jehovah emphatically stated: “It will not return to me without results, but it will certainly do that in which I have delighted, and it will have certain success in that for which I have sent it.”—Isaiah 55:11.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 05:45 | 2991208 jeff montanye
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unconvincing at first post (argument from authority, or, as the french revolution put it, important if true); boring upon second post.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 11:04 | 2991494 Fukushima Sam
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That book is incredibly dry and boring, one might even say "preachy".

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:31 | 2990714 mick68
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One ally to Iran down, next up Syria.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 06:14 | 2991223 Rantabulous
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I don't know if Syria is next, but I'd say you are on the right track. IF Israel wanted to engage Iran it would be madness to do so before putting its heel firmly on the throat of allies and sympathisers that are capable of or at least very likely willing to inflict injury once Iran has been engaged. Gaza ticks that box.

It saddens me deeply to think of the men, women and children who live anywhere in the Middle East that suffer from all of this, who just want to live their lives in peace.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 09:35 | 2991383 Winston Churchill
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The true goal of all the Israeli machinations is securing the

headwaters of the river Jordan.

Everything else is smoke and mirrors, or preliminary moves on that chessboard.

Gaza is just a pawn,Lenanon is the target,but Iran is backing Hezbollah in

Lebanon.Therefore Iran must be taken out.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 09:54 | 2991417 Big Slick
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"Overwhelming Israeli force slaughters innocent Palestinians, including children, which is preceded by far more limited rocket attacks into Israel"

Hmmm... if only there were some solution in that sentence to avoid overwhelming Israeli resposnse. 

(THINK DAMMIT, THINK!)

Wait... I GOT IT!  Nope...I lost it.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:35 | 2990726 DosZap
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Judiasm is not Zionism.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Zionism

 

Read the definition, and share it, not one thing wrong with Zionism.Why does Gaza even exist?, every time Israel has made land concessions the radicals just have it easier(escalation of violence, and easier to hit Israels cities)........why would anyone(we do not) bargain with Terrorists, so why should WE expect them to?.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:17 | 2990829 ACP
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When I saw this video:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wedding-guests-watch-as-israels-missile-...

I thought man, you can't possibly Hollywoodize/dramatize this any more than the raw footage does. Almost like the "End of the World" celebration in the Hitchiker's Guide to the galaxy. People eating, drinking, watching all this shit going on.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 04:51 | 2991190 beaglebog
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Interesting video.

 

Is there any evidence that those missiles were successfully intercepting their targets? 

 

Do any of ycu chaps know the economics of the Iron Dome?   I mean, how much does it cost in comparison to the Palestinian's efforts?  Will there come a point where low-tech overwhelms the ability of the defender to pay for its high-tech solution?

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 07:49 | 2991278 galis
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dildo man relax

we are only started to react to their rocket atacks on our towns

lets talk in a week

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:13 | 2990662 DosZap
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Northen Ireland stepped back from the endless cycle of violent reprisals.

Yep, and goody for them.BUT, they weren't surrounded with 1.2 Billion people DEAD set on their toal DESTRUCTION as a Race. Were they?.

Not even a close comparison.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 11:00 | 2991487 Ginsengbull
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Quitters

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:51 | 2990615 vast-dom
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good post aziz. thx.

 

guess i'm no god re: patraeus and black swan...yet....or i have zero credibility...i stand by what i was sent...but fighting fed and msm and politicians....losing 80% of the time......

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:03 | 2990638 fonzannoon
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You certainly don't have zero credibility. If you are guilty of anything it is getting some hopes up around here. We have all done it from time to time. Welcome back to psycho ward. You thought you were free for a minute there.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:39 | 2990735 A Lunatic
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Don't worry about it man, but you DO owe me a new rubber gasket for the hatch on my underground bunker.......

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 01:13 | 2990934 zorba THE GREEK
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If Obama had a set of balls half the size of Michelle, he would recognize

both Palestine and Gaza and stop pandering to the Zionists. 

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:05 | 2990641 Gully Foyle
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Kurtz: I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies! I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us.

(Biden 2016 taking a long step back)

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:33 | 2990718 Colonel Walter ...
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I wish I would have said that.....

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 02:30 | 2991046 Walter E Kurtz
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You rang, bitchez?

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 09:50 | 2991399 GetZeeGold
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Hillary will cut Biden's throat long before 2016 hits.

 

Kinda like what she's about to do to Bam Bam. Hillary never forgets bitchez!

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:52 | 2990465 The Gooch
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War. Politics. Propaganda. 

Killing Kindness

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 21:52 | 2990467 stinkhammer
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"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:11 | 2990506 EvlTheCat
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Warmongering existentialism is the best.  Adolf would be proud of us all.

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:28 | 2990553 stinkhammer
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ding ding, what do we have for him Johnny?

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:58 | 2990627 EvlTheCat
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A bottle of Irish Whisky?

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 11:54 | 2991588 AnAnonymous
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"...in this world of eternal struggle..."

The eternity here will run as long as the resources to sustain the struggle. And 'americans' are working at solving that resources issue...

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:59 | 2990473 BlueCollaredOne
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Insert biblical prophecy line here.

If that fails, insert Mayan prophecy line here.

Conflict in the Middle East.... Wake me up when the status quo changes. Hamas has declared "total war" 4 times now dating back to the 90's.

Israel feels neglected, so like a bad kid they are going to act up so the bad parent known as Amerika rewards them for their bad behavior. More gift certificates from General Dynamics for you!!! As long as you promise to be good

Fri, 11/16/2012 - 23:28 | 2990708 Divine Wind
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OK. Biblical prophecy line:

Israel will prevail.

Simple as that.

The Book has been right every other time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 00:17 | 2990830 RichardP
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Actually, some interpret the Bible to say that Jerusalem will fall.  The only reason it will not fall completely is because God himself steps in and saves it - so that all may know the power of God.

According to this interpretation, God will prevail, not Israel.  Puts a whole different spin on things.  Think of what might be coming if/when you see Israel completely overwhelmed and going down.

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