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Israel Re-escalates: Mobilizes 75,000
Update: Israel CDS 162/170, +8 bps
Earlier today, air raid sirens went off in Tel Aviv, and even Jerusalem was supposedly in danger of a missile attack: hardly the deescalation Israel was hoping to see. Sure enough, the ball is in Bibi's court and he wastes not time:
- NETANYAHU CONVENING MINISTERS TO APPROVE RESERVES CALL-UP; TV
- ISRAEL PLANNING TO CALL UP 75,000 RESERVISTS, CHANNEL TWO SAYS
Next: flip flops and other various closed-toed shoes on the ground.
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I think we are getting ready for the Big Daddy.
Armageddon box/bugout and other preps are made.
We have the Anti-Christ in the white house and the false profit of mammon on the printing presses. Time for teotwawki
I'm fired up! someone, hit me in the face!
meta-preppers, Activate.....!
Form of Complete Asshole!
Shape of limp wristed, sweater vest wearing van dyke beard sporting beta male dick smack!
T'was just a joke.........and I meant me when I stated it, but whatever.
me too brah, just poking fat little hairy men in the eye. We're cool.
"hardly the deescalation Israel was hoping to see"
Since when did Israel want deescalation? They've been keeping Palestinians in a cage for decades.
Too bad Hostess went belly up, they could sit down over a Twinkie and a Ding Dong to work this all out.
Twinkie and Ding Dong ... would that be Bawney Frank and Oblahblah?
DON'T FORGET ZINGERS BITCHEZ!!!!!
Stimulus!
Bibi: Lets Roll!
(tanks over dead bodies that is)
Philip Giraldi on Antiwar.com argues that “much of what the American public is seeing and hearing about Iran and Syria is a red herring.” Rather, the focus should be on occupied Palestine.
Writes Giraldi:
If the media is focused on developments in Syria and Iran it will be excusable not to pay any attention to what Israel is doing in its own backyard in what remains of Palestine. And Israel is most definitely up to its usual tricks on the West Bank. Benjamin Netanyahu has recently announced the building of 1,200 more housing units for Jews only in occupied East Jerusalem and on the West Bank. If the Palestinians seek permanent observer member-state status in the United Nations at the end of this month, there have been suggestions that Israel will retaliate by building even more new settlements…
Restraint? Benjamin Netanyahu has no desire to see any viable Palestinian state and he has exploited the United States as an enabler in his commission of war crimes to stall any progress in that direction. When Israel was created it managed to seize control of 78% of the historic Palestine leaving only 22% to the Palestinian inhabitants. That 22% has now been reduced to less than 10% remaining on the West Bank plus Gaza. Israel is intent on colonizing the more desirable parts of the West Bank, crowding the remaining Palestinians into a cluster of Bantustans that will be “self-governing” though without any of the attributes of sovereignty. The Arabs will not control their own water resources and airspace, will be hemmed in by Jews-only highways that they cannot use and military zones that they cannot enter, and will be prey to arbitrary action by the Israeli army to “protect” settlers and maintain security.
The Israelis appropriate Palestinian land as the wish to create new settlements and the rampaging settlers themselves destroy Palestinian farms and businesses so that the people will have no livelihood and will be forced to leave. All of the Israeli action is, of course, illegal in addition to being unconscionable as the Geneva Conventions consider it a war crime to seize and colonize land that has been occupied by military action...
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/11/14/israels-real-agenda/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9331863/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/looters-strip-gaza-greenhouses/
This is a proxy war versus Iran and its cheerful Ayatollahs. Israel has less to do with Judaism and more to do with that European toehold in the ME so that the Ayatollahs do not seize the oil.
Will we be safer when the Medieval Theocracy has nuclear tipped missles?
How many warheads does Israel already hold? More than France?
Meanwhile, the Palestinians are being played on the margins and continue to be marginalized.
The quest for power rears its ugly head.
My super Catholic uncle wouldn't vote for Romney for several reasons - but one of them was that Mormonism is a cult and 'crazy.' Then I stepped back and realized that sometimes things 'are' what we call them... Catholics, and for that matter Jews and Muslims... believe things that are batshit crazy.
But oddly, while we hear about Muslim and Christian fundamentalists - the existence of Jewish Fundamentalists goes largely undiscussed.
Lots of wrong to go around on both sides, but if Iran's leader met with an Imam who told him to do what he could to bring about their version of the appocalypse - you'd better believe we'd here nothing but that for weeks.
But the Israelis/Jews get a pass.
Here's Netanyahu [who, if you google it, was claiming Iran was months away from a nuke since 1992] being told to do what he could to bring about the Jewish Messiah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr4C2BPLeM
BTW as I understand it, the Jewish concept of a Messiah is less about peace and harmony and more about Jews ruling the world from Israel because God chose them and all that. I suspect most Jews don't believe it, but there's textual justification in the Talmud or Torah or both and the fundies adhere to it. Certainly correct me if I'm wrong...
Also many of the orthodox/fundamentalist Jews really, really hate it when you try to convert a 'Jew'. Which is fine, but I'm not sure I want these assholes having control of nukes either...
http://www.youtube.com/user/JewsforJudaismCanada?v=49l-g_TtGhI
Religion is the bath salts of the people.
Festivus for the rest of us!
"Religion is the bath salts of the people"
More people were killed in the name of atheism than there ever was due to religion. There are fundementalists in all religions that are a problem ,but the majority of the people just want to be left alone to practice their faith.
I don't care if you worship Cartman's belly button as long as you leave me alone.
Whereas Political correctness is the opium of the unbelievers.....
Take your pick...I am with religion as per 'Pascale's Wager'
Gee ~ I guess we'll never know how many nukes Israel has because they refuse to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty...
You can be sure of one thing though... Israel, by now, has managed to smuggle enriched uranium out of their little shithole of a country and has it conveniently located in just about every strategic and/or heavily populated city in the world...
Let the 'extortion' games continue...
Do you honestly think the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty accurately reflects the inventory of the signers?
Do you compete in the Tour De France? How's that working for you? Now that Bradley has to lay off the enhancements, someone else can win.
Your avatar/username suits you...
Do you honestly think the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty accurately reflects the inventory of the signers?
up above, you seem to sign off on reports from msnbc. Taking your latest statement, as your logic dictates, the Israeli government "signed off" on a truce, then used that to lure a Hamas leader out to kill him with very sophisticated weapons. This has now created a violent reaction from Hamas, which the Israeli government knew full well it would create. In doing so, it further endangered both sides' citizens but given the insanely disproportional resouces and backing from an empire with the largest military in history, the odds are heavily weighed. The Isreali government then used this as a justification for Israeli trrops and reserves to "protect" itself. So, following your logic, why exactly now should Hamas trust them. Like the US, the Israeli government seems to want and stoke violence and seems prepared to risk its own citizens for an agenda based substantially on physical resources but pitched to its people as terrorism from an "insane" group of foreigners
Obviously we would all like this to be a surprise...but to say the rhetoric has been anything but about peace is patently true. I'm still trying to figure out what US policy is here. Can someone enlighten me? Years ago I said "we're walking backwards into World War III"...and just the other day when "Sheriff Behan decided to arrest General Petraeus" I said "prepare for ground assault." and who doesn't just LOVE war on the eve of some great...some great...some great...oh, look! It's the Kardashians!
until Hamas and the vast majority of Arab nations stop teaching their children to hate there will be no peace in the middle east. Hamas cares more about the destruction of Israel than a better future for the Palestinian people. What good does it do to shoot missiles into southern Israel . What did they expect Israel to do.
Now I know Israel is not blameless in all of this and I fully expect the anti-Israel crowd to rip into to me but in this instance Hamas has brought this on themselves so don't come crying to the UN.
Would be the "many senior UN staff did not perceive the prevention of killing of civilians as their responsibility" in Sri Lanka 2009 UN?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20308610
until Hamas and the vast majority of Arab nations stop teaching their children to hate there will be no peace in the middle east. Hamas cares more about the destruction of Israel than a better future for the Palestinian people. What good does it do to shoot missiles into southern Israel . What did they expect Israel to do.
Now I know Israel is not blameless in all of this and I fully expect the anti-Israel crowd to rip into to me but in this instance Hamas has brought this on themselves so don't come crying to the UN.
You can't occupy and abuse people and expect them to love you. It breeds hatred. Naturally.
Yeah it does, but yet the Palestinians didn't hate the Jordanians for keeping them in camps and refusing them immigrant status. Just sayin'...
They didn't just keep them in camps. They massacred them by the thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan
Palestinians don't get a much better deal in Lebanon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_in_Lebanon
And in Gaza, if Hamas etc decide to turn your back garden into a rocket launch site, don't try shirking your patriotic duty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket#Palestinian_reaction
is that what you told your stepdad?
Yes that is true. But when Hamas has dedicated itself to Israel's destruction what is the answer. 6 million jews were murdered and yet most jews do not hold grudges against Germany. US freakin nuked JAPAN and yet the Japanese did not teach their kids to hate.. You cant preach hate and expect peace. The palestinians suffer due to the culture of hate.
The war with Japan is LONG OVER.
The war with Germany is LONG OVER.
The occupation of Palestine is HAPPENING NOW.
They cannot be viewed in the same context. Perhaps down the road, if there is ever a resolution, future generations will not hate each other. But right now, there is more than ample justifiable reason for the Palestinians to hate Israel.
Jew hatred started in the KORAN!!!!!
Muslims would hate Jews even if they lived in Bolivia
http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/3597
Muslims would hate Jews even if they lived in Bolivia
And thus it is written.
Between 250AD and 1948, Jews have been expelled from 109 places around the world. It has not been without good reason. Or is the entire world "anti-semites"?
The Quran was written between 610AD and 632AD. You guys were hated well before the Quran was written.
Between 250AD and 1948, Jews have been expelled from 109 places around the world. It has not been without good reason. Or is the entire world "anti-semites?
No, but the reasons for their travels was ordained because of disobedience.Once back into the Land of Promise in '47/8, they will remain until Shiloh comes.
No one can defeat them, NO ONE.
Your comically superstitious explanation for their "travels" aside...why where they expelled from every place they "traveled" to?
I'm really looking forward to your bullshit spin on that one.
Your history is faulty. Goyim hatred started before Islam existed.
Umm...
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"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews." -- Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in "Histoire de l'Arme'e Allemande"by Jacques Benoist--Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).
Hamas has an agenda, Israel has an agenda, even our corrupt, evil politicians have an agenda. Like the song says "Everybody wants to rule the world". I don't.
Since you posted twice, (which probably meansyou're just some kind of AIPAC troll), I'll post ~ AGAIN...
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Israel is claiming that Iran has supplied Fajr-5 rockets to whoever inside Gaza is launching them at Israel.
Israel's blockade of Gaza is so tight that crayons and musical instruments for Gaza's children cannot get through. The Fajr-5 is 6 1/2 meters long, and weighs 915 Kilograms. It requires a launcher, which is 10 1/2 meters long.
Think something that big and heavy gets smuggled in through a tunnel?
And common sense applies here. Why would Iran do such a stupid thing? All it would take is just one of these rockets to be discovered and captured by the Israelis to provide Israel and the US an excuse for an attack. Yet Israel claims that the Gazans had a multitude of these rockets.
no.. just a fat finger.
Try to keep your greasy FAT FINGERS off the nuclear launch trigger there BiBi... Will ya?
The wonderfull thing is that everyone feels justified in murder. EVERYONE
I have no love for Hamas, they are indeed a violent blight upon the Palestinian people and they would be better off if the PA were the only ones in charge no doubt. however, how much teaching does it take it get people to hate those who illegally blockade and sanction them, economically repress them, drive them off of and steal there land, beat there children and constantly threaten with death via superior military power?
Hamas is no better, but Israel has earned the hatred of the Palestinian people all by themselves.
sadly there are no good guys here, just more dead civilians, innocent people on both sides who just want to get through the day without having to worry about whether they will get to see there loved ones again.
but as always, they don't matter, they don't count, not to the fuckers in charge whether in Gaza, or Tel Avie, or Washington DC, middle east, northeast, wherever, it's all the same.
no good guy nation vs bad guy nation here, just the serfs bleeding and dying for the enrichment of the PTBs, but that's nothing new.
Rawsienna,
If you were given ten minutes to vacate your home that generations of your family had owned would you be upset?
Edit: answer to Rawsienna.
until Israel and the vast majority of Jews stop teaching their children to hate there will be no peace in the middle east. Israel cares more about the destruction of Middle East than a better future for the Jewish people. What good does it do to shoot missiles into Gaza. What did they expect Hamas to do.
Now I know Hamas is not blameless in all of this and I fully expect the anti-Hamas crowd to rip into to me but in this instance Israel has brought this on themselves so don't come crying to the UN.
Well, Hamas has been firing all these rockets into Israel. I would have enough of that too. But timing is everything. BB takes action now because Romney did not win the elections. With Romney he would have time on his side. Now with Obama he needs to step up the pace.
Bullish
Do Americans enjoy having other countries tell them what to do?
Evidently a lot of them do, especially considering how many are for UN laws. They will be dictating the color of our toilet paper before long.
All over the American media this morning is the report that Israel is amassing its forces against “the militants.”
Militant is an interesting word that we learned through Webster’s et al.: “Engaged in warfare; fighting; also, combative; aggressively active.” But in a Zionist world, that definition no longer applies.
Here’s the Google Zionist definition: “Combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause: ‘militant Islamic fundamentalists.’”
The American nation is set to pay a horrible price for its duplicity in not only allowing its proxy (Israel) to consistently harass, imprison and murder the Palestinians, but it has insisted on a culture from media to Congress to the President to the Federal Reserve and, yes, to every school child in America which is based on a damnable lie.
It is a lie that not only supports, but takes the lead in, wholesale genocide.
What do you think would happen if Israel pulled back to their 67 border and refused to respond to any militant attacks? Would the Palestinians lay down their arms and stop all hostilities? Where could a line be drawn that would ensure a relatively peaceful coexistence?
Your response implies that the Palestinians have been the aggressive, warlike monsters throughout the years since 1947, hardly a logical conclusion centered on their dilemma: banished from their own land, prisoners in their own land, refused even the chance to join the parade of the world’s nations, and refused even the honest brokering of the world’s former moral compass – the United States of America.
To answer your question, the line you suggest could be drawn this afternoon, supported and enforced by the U.S. and European powers, and Palestine given permission to form its nation and hereafter, violators - and that includes the Bibi militants - punished for their crimes against humanity.
It was the Jewish Bolsheviks who killed 65 million innocents in Russia; it was the Jews in post-WWII America that helped set up Mao in China who killed, mainly by intentional starvation, 65 million Chinese. It was the Likud party, an offshoot of the Irgun and Stern gangs, that dispersed 700,000 Palestinians from their land and has massacred the Palestinians ad nauseam since 1947 and keeps them imprisoned in a fenced concentration camp monitored by a Joystick murder-operation called Spot and Shoot. THAT is the antagonistic element opposed to any agreement that would allow the establishment of an independent and democratic Palestinian state.
It is the Jews that rejected the Oslo peace agreement.
Great post! If it wasn't for the internet, Americans would have no clue about the 'truth' because we have been spoon-fed so many lies and so much garbage. "Freedom of the press" was a right guaranteed to Americans, and it has been completely stripped from us. This country is doomed.
But what is that line that the Palestinians would abide by. Elimination of the Jewish state and a Nuremburg trial? Sounds to me that your only solution is the same as the Palestintians, total anhilation of Israel. As IQ mentioned, they are at war now. Israel is in it up to their necks for right or wrong, so I would imagine they are fighting to win. Short of a UN sanctioned extermination I don't see your solution in the cards.
Interesting how nobody in the western media likes mentioning that Saudi Arabia (and after the mid 2000's, "private Saudi interests") is the primary financier of Hamas. They'll talk up Iran until their blue in the face, but the explicit exclusion of Saudi Arabia's role here speaks volumes.
I'm long Twinkies Bitchez!!
Morgan Freeman >>>> Yassir Arafat
HAMAS kills as many Israelis as they are able and far fewer than they intend.
The IDF kills more Palestinians than they intend and far fewer than they are able to.
This show opened in 1948 and has been playing ever since. Will the curtain close this time?
This show opened in 1948 and has been playing ever since. Will the curtain close this time?
Nope, the son of predition has not been brought to power.
Whilst those who promote (and control) the killing sprees Worldwide are comfortably protected from the consequences of their actions, be assured the killings will continue apace.
The "Talk" is all de-escalation; the reality seems escalation: What is the risk of local hostilities expanding to become regional, then supra-regional, then global?
ANY nuclear offensive / defensive action will have consequences: In a large scale Middle East war, America WILL be involved (at least at the level of overt (and covert) munitions / technology support, possibly as a directly-acting combatant force).
Can the US afford another conflict? Will resources have to be "diverted" from existing conflict zones (so in effect "enabling" the opponents in these diverse conflicts)? Will "The People" be happy to see more lives lost and $$s wasted?
Maybe it's time for the "Government" to come clean on all this - and clearly state, via the Mainstream Press / Media, the real risks to the US, including the risk of significant attacks (military, and "terrorist" on US Mainland infrastructure). Then, with an informed population, maybe there might be some incentive for "Jaw, Jaw" rather than "War, War".
Definitely not happening in my lifetime!