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Photos From Gaza
Most have read about the events in Gaza over the past three days, for the most part insulated and buffered by a distance of several thousand miles and one or more oceans, from what is rapidly becoming ground zero of a new and most deadly escalation in the center of the Middle Eastern powder keg. Few, however, have witnessed and documented it quite as well as French photographer Anne Paq and her collection of photos below.
Pictures from Gaza via Chroniques de Palestine:
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You said repeatedly that the fact that the plaque was changed was a lie. Now you've downgraded it to "distraction." Moving the goal posts in plain view is neither an ethical or intelligent way to try to win the game, tiger.
But at least you now admit that the long quoted total of 4 million dead at Auschwitz was incorrect and that the proper number is closer to 1.4 million. You're learning.
Liar. I never made any such argument. The number killed at Auchwitz was, and is, irrelevant. I explained why above. And no, I didn't just now learn that you were a Holocaust-denying, anti-Semitic BIGOT. I picked up on it immediately when I first saw your Cabalistic "6,000,000" statement and the plaque thing about Auchwitz. Your comments were out of place, argument wise, and obviously done by you to cast doubt on the number killed without coming right out and denying the Moon Landing. Excuse me, I mean denying the Holocaust. I get my conspiracy nutz mixed up sometimes.
You Holocaust Deniers know full well that if you come right out and admit to be such that your credibility tanks. Sooo, you try to mealy-mouth your way around with a little "revisionism" here and there. You do some quote-mining, and some context-dropping and you think nobody notices. But, I do. I'm good that way! Plus, I have had a lot of practice with other conspiracy nutz.
I am serious about Bigots Anonymous. It would do you a lot of good because it has been my experience that Conspiracy Nutz crap up their home life and personal relationships with the nuttiness. Plus, I can imagine your prissing around in a Waffen SS uniform probably upsets those who care about you. And, it must be hard to goosestep in the living room without knocking over lamps and things.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
Let's review:
You are still a MEGA-TWIT. Plaques are NOT facts. Plaques commemorate FACTS. If one is lucky, the plaques are right about the facts they commemorate. At the link I provided, did you see anybody base their number of dead Jews on the PLAQUES??? Did you read about anybody changing the number of dead when the plaque was changed???
Only a anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying BIGOT would try to base his arguments on plaques, and then try to pretend it was factual. (egs: I have a "Best Actress" plaque. Did I really ever win "Best Actress"??? Was I really the "Best Actress", or did I sleep with the director??? Did I just find the plaque in the attic of my new house???)
My goodness, did you really base your bigoted opinion on what a plaque said???
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
The changing of the plaque itself was the fact in question. Furthermore, if the figure had been 4 million killed at Auschwitz and that number was part of the tally of 6 million total dead then how can you reduce the number of deaths at Auschwitz to 1.5 million and still reach a grand total of 6 million? Show the math.
Would you be more open to my arguments if I insulted you in solid caps? Is that the sort of thing that holds sway with you?
Don't EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER. EVER POST AGAIN. Your words are complete waste of time, since we all here are imune to your ridicoulous attempt of zionist propaganda or whatever you are trying to do. Not gonna work. Go to Israel and help your brothers there fight the "good war" if you are so interested. Internet arguments like these is like winning the special olympics, you may win, but you are still a RETARD!
Kiss my ass, you PERVERTED BIGOT! The only thing you're immune from is a sense of reality. You support a bunch of bomb-throwing murderers and cry like tittie babies when the Good Guys bomb the crap out of them??? You and the other anti-Semites are nothing but a bunch of clown wannabe Nazis. And Holocaust-denying nutz.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
Feel better?
You forgot to call him an anti-semite and a racist.
Squeeky Fromm, IDF poster.
Crockett, thanks for pointing this out. Though not surprising, I had no idea such actions occur.
Tough for me to not think District 9 when I think of Gaza's penned people. Sad.
Al lo davar.
Remind me again how firing missiles and killing civilians furthers those goals?
If a bunch of foreign terrorists came from another continent with guns and bombs, killed your family and put you in a cage what would you do? Would you try to break out and make contact with the rest of humanity or would you just sit there and starve quietly?
Are you referring to Indians (feather)?
Many American Indians fought bravely against the oppression of Europeans, although their real bane was the diseases which those Europeans carried against which natives had no natural defense.
Today is a good day to die. -- Crazy Horse
Interesting convenience that you believe mainstream history that an entire culture was wiped out inadvertently because of disease. Fuck all forms of violence and coercion now that you own the land, right?
When Lewis and Clark traveled up the Missouri they found only four Missouri villages where there had been fourteen only a year or so before according to Stephen Ambrose. Here's additional confirmation.
What part of "oppression by Europeans" did you misunderstand?
However, the town I live in was built on the site of an "old town," or an Indian village which had been abandoned. It had been inhabited by the Shawnee who were led by a half Frenchman named Pierre Chartier. They had lived and traded with Europeans but when it was time to move on they did as the Shawnee are wont to do. That's why their name is enshrined in place names across the Eastern United States in places like Savannah, Georgia and the Suwanee River.
Based on your somewhat liberal bent I would have thought that you had some sympathy for the Palestinians. If you've decided to transfer your hatred for me to the Palestinians, well that's just sad. Or did you always hate them?
that's not at all what crock said nor is he defending it.
Sounds like any other taxed economy. Talk to other countries and the taxes they pay in commerce.
What about the borders they share with their Muslim brothers?
"All the Palestinians want is open borders and a chance to make a living."
Now if you can just convince everyone of that you can go ahead with your genocide of the Jews.
The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Charter.
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up."
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
My take on it is that it is great theater. The Palestinians have been working at being the perfect victims for years. Why is Gaza a hellhole? Because it suits HAMAS and FATAH for it to be that way. It is the way of Muhammad, the Muslims' first pirate. The whole culture is set up to emulate Muhammad's lifestyle, that of a mass-murdering, extortionist, pedophile pirate. But don't take my word for it, read up some of Islam's "revered texts". The guy with the most guns wins. Islam is a culture set up on the spoils of violence, the suppression of non-Muslims, women, children and Jews in particular. Anyone and everyone is expendable in HAMAS' war against the Israel, even if it is their own children. If this were not so, how can you explain suicide bombers?
Note to self: if a Katyusha launcher shows up in my neighbor's yard and starts shooting at Israel, it's time to go on vacation
What if you can't get over the fence?
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gaza+fence&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...
If you can't get over the fence, you probably are less interested in strapping on a suicide vest to go kill infidels.
"Good fences make good neighbors." (I think it was Mark Twain)
The line "Good fences make good neighbors," was popularized in Robert Frost's poem, Mending Wall although the expression dates to at least the 17th century. Just another bad guess on your part in lieu of documented facts.
And Frost's poem is actually anti-wall.
The Country of Israel is the most disgusting paranoid schizophrenic psychopath country on the planet.
The MiIitary Knows lsraeI Did 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=diJGcakiepc Dr Alan Sabrosky; Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgs-82XjGY Israel and Mossad did 9/11, along with people in our own government.http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367
DAVID WILCOCK with DRAKE Interview 29March2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRziYS-PZ2U
@Michaelwiseguy -
The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty must be right up there, too. This injustice must be brought to light and criminal charges brought.
"ON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. "
http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/
AND
Just announced:
Italian Supreme Court President Calls for New 9/11 Investigation at ICC
Looking at these images it seems as Gaza is innocent, just being attacked by Israel for now reason.
Gaza did not fire thousands of rockets and missiles into Israel.
Gaza-led-Hamas in not committed to the destruction of Israel and killing every Jew (regardless if she lives in Israel). Hint, check the Hamas charter.
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This images are at best half-truth.
Where are the images of damage in Israel, frightened Israelis hiding in make shift shelters, Israeli casualties?
Why did the unbiased reporter fail to publish images of the Hamas rockets, missile launchers, and militants (dead or alive)?
Humm..., such unbiased reporting does not fit the dogma.
Don't let the facts confuse you.
Make shift shelters? What? I was in Israel in the early 1980s and there were shelters everywhere, including in the farm fields etc.
I have seen on tv the bottle rockets the Israelis said came from Gaza. I built bigger Estes rockets with my son. But it's ok to fire Hellfire missles into a heavily populated concentration camp. Ok.
applaud these comments
FRAUD: CNN USES VIDEO FOOTAGE OF FAKED PALESTINIAN 'INJURIES'
Even meteors are to smart to come here.
If I was an alien, I would love to watch Earth - it's the ultimate neverending soap opera with humans. What a gay life (oldskool version of gay, not the new homosex one).
lonestar you fucking retard
E.T. life would attack us in a sec if they knew we were so divided
divide and rule remember
Thank you for PROVING my post: 1) Language 2) Personal attack 3) Ignorance/stupidity, as INTELLIGENT life is non-violent and would NOT attack, but would, at some point, assist in development, which many of us will argue occurred in the past.
Again, thanks for the assistance.
Go Israel! This is the way wars are meant to be fought. I hope they keep going all the way to Damascus this time.
And...we wonder why intelligent extraterrestrial life ignores us?
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That is because they never heard of 'americanism'
If they had, they would join and meet Humanity to sacrifice themselves on the altar of 'americanism', to sponsor the 'american' project for 'american' freedom, truth and justice.
Just as the Indians did.
'Americanism' is such a good thing... Question on why Jesus wont return so soon is also answered. That's because now with 'americanism' as the dominant paradigm for humanity on a world scale, even Jesus could not improve on that!
How are these pictures differ than pictures from New Jersey after Sandy
No jews (whining about the lack of this or that service) are featured... You asked...
i thought NYC is full of yids...
How are these pictures differ than pictures from New Jersey after Sandy
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In no way. Both are 'american' made disasters.
As 'americans' claiming they no longer make anything...
It sucks but in no way should America involve itself.
you are, guess who gives Israel the goods?
And who gives Hamas its goods?
the bottle rockets?! I think they are homemade....in Iran...
you honestly believe the mainstream propaganda that Iran is somehow involved with these rockets? what the hell are you doing at ZH? This site is for people seeking the truth, not warmonering ignorant fools!
poor wittle old israhell. the big bad palestinians with their homemade bottle rockets are scaring them. fuck israhell and their over the top response. noddin yahoo is a pyscho who needs to have the blood of goyim on his hands to satisfy the blood lust of the israeli zionist/racist/fascist jews. remember hamas had declared a cease fire until israel assasinated its head of military operations and don't forget that israel IDF forces shot an innocent 10 yr. old child in the head from a helicopter and killed him. that was what started this whole thing, not bottle rockets, that mysteriously always seem to land in vacant field. look it up. our jew controlled/dominated media will never tell you that. it really is david vs. goliath.
Remember Mr Netenyahu is up for re-election shortly.
Nothing like a "Good War" to unite the people behind the current ruling faction is there.
A tactic that has worked well, and reliably, throughout recorded history.
I especially hate that part where Netanyahu foams at the mouth and proclaims that those muslim nations will be wiped off the map. What a pig. Oh , wait, that's, uh....
A misquote.
This just in: have you been sleeping under your rug for several years or do you prefer to just eat your bagel and believe anything that CNN tells you?
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Even on ZH there are dozens of brainwashed posters. How do people so smart about taxes, debt, government spending, economics, politics, etc. get so bent out of shape (to the point of calling for war with Iran and for American troops to "wipe out" Palestinians) when Israel is mentioned? The propaganda runs deep.
Who is calling for that?
From everything I see on this thread its calling for Israel to be wiped out.
Funny.... I read it the same way, overwhelmingly so...
Its a trip on these types of threads knukles.
"Palestinians" try to overthrow Jordan and get their asses handed to them by their "brothers" and its never even brought up that they "claim" that land as well.
The truth of the matter is what is called the "palestinians" is used as a dagger by their "brothers"...their "brothers" don't care how many daggers are lost in this fight (the daggers would be the palestinians for the US/western government school educated)...they are expendable to them.
No one ever raises that point...its like, whaaa?
So who owns the land on which the United States is founded, winkles? Is the answer dictated by who wipes out whom most successfully? It is ironic indeed that libertarians want to be left alone and free of force in a land that their ancestors took by force. Of course your philosophy is dictated by what is convenient and good for you, so never mind.
Surely you're not suggesting that one tribe didn't fight other tribes with the loser ceding land to the victor? Does the losing tribe still hold a right and/or title after its defeat?
If so, you need to burn your house down and get off MY land because I can legally claim a portion of it through my heritage ;-)
pretty much anyone can post at ZH, so maybe we should drop the "omg ZH is so full of smart!!"- either use Fight Club, or vote anonymously with your mouse. . .
the propaganda is ubiquitous.
High proportion of Joo Posters.
High proportion of Neo-Nazi anti-Semitic Holocaust-denying nutz and BIGOTS.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
"remember hamas had declared a cease fire until israel assasinated its head of military operations"
He was killed because of the rockets coming over from Gaza. You can't fire rockets into civilian areas and then to avoid retaliation, unilaterally claim a ceasefire.
What fucking planet do you live on...and bottle rockets...really?, yeah right, have you seen one of Hamas' "bottle rockets" spud?
Why do you believe that the Palestinians started this fight? Did they invade Europe and force the Zionists to move to Palestine? The Zionists drew first blood. And that was Palestinian, British and Jewish blood.
"Why do you believe that the Palestinians started this fight?"
I hate using wiki but any other source "in this crowd" would be unbelievable ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2012
And why do we call them Palestinians & Israelis anyways...why not Levant's?
So there was no conflict between Israel and Palestine before 2012? The Palestinians just went mad out of the blue?
Did I or did I not answer the pertinent question posed?
"Why do you believe that the Palestinians started this fight?"
You can "bombard" me with questions all night long...but its gonna make for a long night...and I really don't have a dog in this fight...its just weird how ALL the worlds problems evolve back to one race/nation for some people.
Egypt can't even grow enough food for itself to this very day...Israel takes a chunk of essentially sand & rock and makes it fertile and productive place to live and they are attacked by three nations. Israel gives up some of this productive land and assets they've created and its stripped for copper wiring...by Palestinians...and the hue & cry goes forth yet again.
Like I said, its really remarkable tunnel vision and I don't have a dog in this fight...I'm gone to more productive uses for my time.
No you did not honestly answer the pertinet question. You inserted an artificial starting point within a decades long timeline and claimed that the Palestinians started it all. I thought you had more respect for the truth and for yourself than that. Why are you unwilling to discuss this subject honestly?
If blunderdog followed through on his threat and raped some Florida women today and you knocked him out tomorrow could one realistically claim that you initiated the violence simply by saying, "blunderdog may have raped those women yesterday but that's irrelevant. You hit him today and started the fight."
The post and this thread is about the immediate present Crockett.
Which starting point do YOU want then?
The British Palestine Mandate, the Ottoman Empire, Roman or Egyptian...start your timeline.
Why don't we start with Palestine as the home of Palestinians including Muslims, Christians and Sephardic Jews and the Zionist plan to take that land by political wrangling and by force starting in the 1890s.
That's the key moment as it marks the point at which a group of Europeans began to claim that they had a right to Palestinian land based on a two thousand year old claim.
Sure. Start there, but by all means, get to the fucking point.
Land taken. Borders redrawn. What part of the human condition do you not grasp? Ever seen an old map?
Jesus, you sound like the Chinese and Koreans bleating about what Japan did to it 70-odd years ago. Boo-fucking Hoo.
Whitewashing history under the guise of "human condition" encourages the status quo.
Think for a second. Though your bias is already on display, there is still much to learn.
I highly doubt you'd shrug your shoulders should someone rob you or, worse, kill someone you care about.
It's about empathy and the non-aggression principle, bro.
(Sorry if I come off as condescending)
Is force only bad if committed today upon you? If not, why shall any of us expect to live in peace in a land that was taken by force by those who came before us, against those who were here before them? And why should we -- other than out of mere self-interest and convenience -- claim that none other shall have the right to take from us by force what our ancestors took from those who lived here before us just a few hundred years ago (a fraction of a moment in earth's history)?
Never mind. me me me me me me me me me me ad infinitum until I'm dead.
So you have no problem with the Palestinians trying to secure that land for themselves?
Shall we give back land to the Indians (feathers)? I think not. Shall you volunteer first? I am a white male Christian and I have no dog in the Isreal/Palestine fight, but to read complete hypocritical shit stain writing like yours makes me red in the face (no racial connotation intended).
I did not take anything from any Indian. There are Palestinians alive today who yearn for the homes stolen from them by Zionists who are also still alive today.
The town I live in was built on the site of an "old town," or an Indian village which had been abandoned. It had been inhabited by the Shawnee who were led by a half Frenchman named Pierre Chartier. They had lived here and traded with Europeans but when it was time to move on they did as the Shawnee are wont to do. That's why their name is enshrined in place names across the Eastern United States in places like Savannah, Georgia and the Suwanee River.
As a student of history I am well aware that in other places Europeans did steal Indian land. That doesn't change the fact that there is no hypocrisy in my plea not to be forced to pay for the murder of Palestinians today. You're not one of those people who thinks that because murder has been committed in the past it's just fine and dandy to murder anyone you want today, are you?
No problem, whatsoever. If they can take it back, and they want to, they should.
I say step back, and let them fight it out. No relief ships or airdrops and definitley no stepping in to help late in the game.
To the other poster, my "bias" is towards wishing we would let the middle east solve its own problems. There are far worse wars happening in other lands, right now, so where does YOUR bias lie?
I am biased against all foreign aid especially that which is used to purchase weapons. Israel gets billions every year from the US much of which is funneled back to American defense industries. A much smaller amount of aid has been sent to Palestine but if you can find any arms shipments from the US to Palestine I'd love to see the documentation. All foreign aid must end but the type of aid which engenders blow back against US troops and US citizens is certainly the worst kind.
You're a hypocrite.
You yourself claim to have sponsored an embargo-running "aid" ship to Palestine. All you'd have done is free up money for them to buy weapons from somebody else... but that's indirect enough for you not to feel as though you'd betrayed your own convictions.
Sleep easy.
Like I said, I would prefer to let them sort it out, themselves. You . . not so much.
I sent that money voluntarily. The Israel First crowd takes money out of the pockets of American taxpayers.
You're a thief.
You must first define "Palestine" as a region or a nation...and it is interesting you start after Muhammad Ali invaded from Egypt, not before, but do continue on with your narrative of conquest and re-conquest...
I'm seriously disappointed in your comments tonight.
(Not a junker, though, because I do my best to respect all opinions)
I don't comment to impress or disappoint. My comments are not about making enemies or gaining friends
They are just me...take them or leave them as you wish...and fortunately, here at ZH, neither one of us gets our head chopped off (unlike elsewhere) for disagreeing.
As your ostensible friend I'd like to see you take your head out of the sand.
"As your complete douche friend I'd like to see you take you head out of your ass".
Fixed it for you.
That's persuasive.
I don't think it was persuasive enough. I didn't hear any PLOP when your head exited your anus. Try again and see if you can get it out.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
That's also persuasive.
I'm talking about people living in a land for hundreds of generations, for so long that they converted from Jew to Christian to Muslim and the sudden arrival of people from another continent who came with guns and bombs while making a two thousand year old claim to the land. A bogus claim. Even Israel's first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion admitted that it is the Palestinians who are the descendants of the Biblical Jews. It is the Palestinian people who are the descendents of Abraham and not the Ashkenazi Zionists. And isn't the Anti-Christ supposed to be an apostate Jew?
Israeli Historian: Palestinians Are Biological Descendants of Bible’s Jewsby Philip Weiss on September 2, 2008
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israeli-historian-palestinians-are-biologi...
Philip Weiss is a "progessive"...as a general rule, I'd rather watch a re-run of the Mary Tyler Moore Show than to listen to another "progressive"...thats how much relevant value it has to me.
I'm now reminded of the bank robber who got short changed ;-)
David Ben Gurion, founding father of Israel and its first Prime Minister said that the Palestinians were descendants of the Biblical Jews. He's not an American progressive. Is that relevant?
Of all the things David Ben Gurion was or was not, he was certainly not a historian or a genaologist...lol.
This is getting ridiculous now...I'm gone.
Seeya
Yeah, nmewn, you're a real gone guy. Have a good evening.
That's the key moment as it marks the point at which a group of Europeans began to claim that they had a right to Palestinian land..
People conveniently forget that the thousands of Jews from Europe actually bought the land that they settled on...yes, actually purchased it from local moslems and Christians. They didn't just come in and take over like the mohammedans did in the 7th century.
People conveniently forget that only 6% of Israeli land was bought and paid for. Perhaps you'll agree that the borders of Palestine and Israel should be redrawn to reflect that fact. The Zionists can have Tel Aviv. The rest goes to the rightful owners or their immediate descendants many of whom still have keys to the homes which they fled under fire from Zionist gangs.
Let the down voting of documented historical facts begin!
Rightful owners under what or whose authoritative decree...the now defunct Ottoman Empire?
The Ottomans are no more. Neither are the Roman or Egyptian Empires...or the British for that matter.
The Ottomans were not secular, it was Sunni and Sharia Law administered by fucking sultans...whose sons killed each other for positioning in its diminishing empire.
And this is the basis to a claim?...see jizya...ie second class citizen.
So it's your contention that the Ottoman Empire continued to rule Palestine until 1943? That's when the quoted figure was published in LIFE magazine for all the world to see.
"So it's your contention that the Ottoman Empire continued to rule Palestine until 1943?"
You know as well as I do that's not what I said...thats pretty cheap Crockett. At issue is how do the Palestinians claim title (by western standard law) to any land.
I say it derives through the Ottoman Empire, which is no more.
Just who the modern Palestinians are is a matter of conjecture. Palestinian Arabs claim various lines of descent, some of which seem more legend than fact. The Nusseibeh family claim to have descended from the Arab invaders under Omar (about 640). The Dajani claim descent from an Arabian knight, The Husseini family seem to be associated with with Ottoman invaders (1510s). The Nashashibi family are apparently descended from Bowmen of Salah Eddin. Izzedin Al Qassam, the Palestinian national hero, was actually born in Syria.
http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/sheikh_izz_ad-din_al-qassam.htm
So you tell me, what is a Palestinian?
They're clay pigeons which are shot for the profit and amusement of Zionists.
The documented figures for land purchased by Jews in Palestine came from the British Government, not the Ottoman Empire which was defeated with the help of Palestinian tribesman under the banner of T. E. Lawrence in 1918.
Last night you accepted a starting timeline in your words, of...
"Why don't we start with Palestine as the home of Palestinians including Muslims, Christians and Sephardic Jews and the Zionist plan to take that land by political wrangling and by force starting in the 1890s."
the area, under our consideration, was within what was the Ottoman Empire in that period, thats a simple fact Crockett...not the British Mandate apportioned to the British Empire after WWI. It was then called the Levant.
You continue to move the goalposts & timelines.
The, for the most part, nomadic tribesmen (that is, the palestinian) claims to title would have to go back through the Ottoman Empire wouldn't they?
For your review...
"In Palestine, for example, in the hilly country surrounding Jerusalem, peasants did register land in their own names, and a survey of property records did not find a single case of a city notable or moneylender registering land. On the coastal plains, however, city notables were able to take advantage of the government's new policy of selling deeds to unclaimed lands. Large-scale landlords took possession of vast tracts of land, >>>still mostly unoccupied or unclaimed."<<<
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3424601631.html
But again, the Ottomans came about "ownership" of the property by war & conquest didn't they? I do find it ironic that an anarchist, such as yourself, would now turn to governmental bodies for relief ;-)
The Ottomans restricted land purchases by Jews. The total figure of land purchased by Jews through the British Mandate period was about 6% of the current state of Israel. I didn't move any goal posts, you are simply ignorant of the historical timeline. If we start our timeline with the birth of Zionism in the 1890s then we can certainly consider the British figures as they were compiled after the start of that timeline.
So if I can move on your land and make it more productive than you did, I get it? And then I can force you into a concentration camp and shoot hellfires into it whenever I want?
What happened to your brain?
Where have you gotten this concentration camp meme from?
Gaza has a border with Egypt.
THE EGYPTIANS keep closing it for various reasons, two of which are to keep up turmoil within the "Palestinian" population ie...food/commodity shortages and because of the weapons found coming across it. The Gazan's have dug tunnels under the border to smuggle in their weapons. The Israelis are bombing the border with Egypt to CLOSE the tunnels...to cave the tunnels in...see my link below.
I've never seen a "concentration camp" where tunnels are dug and the "inmates" don't escape through them...maybe you can point me to one?
By that line of reasoning the Warsaw Ghetto was not a concentration camp because Polish sympathizers assisted the Germans in oppressing the Jews.
I think I've been pretty clear on my point and refuse to yield on it.
The Egyptians are using the "palestinians" as a dagger against Israel. Every Arab country does, along with the Persians and the assorted Aryan master race types who appear out of the shadows on these threads.
Sooo, ummm, how much land do you think Jordan and Syria and Lebanon should have give up to palestinians? They are making claims there too ya know...though it goes against the false narrative put out there.
How much land should Europe give to you? La Raza says you're on their property. Have you packed your bags yet?
C'mon BIGOT. Answer his question. Why aren't you addressing Jordan and Syria??? Oh wait, I know the answer. They're NOT Jews. You are pathetic at the whole "covering-up" of your Holocaust-denying, anti-Semitic BIGOT thing. Mebbe you should change your screen name to "Curly" and join up with your BIGOT running buddy, Moe???
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
La Raza?...lol.
Sure, they can have Fla, if they can take it.
That would make a great TV show.
Yes it would my good man, yes it would.
Just becauase CNN wasn't covering it doesn't mean that Apartheid Israel wasn't bombing the crap out of Gaza for days before the Zionist creation Hamas started shooting their homemade fireworks into Occupied Palestine.
thanks for being a straight shooter on ZH.
many here are blinded by hate of the most thoughtless prejudice.
You really have some deep seated Jew hatred bro.
People can be seriously against the horrific treatment of the Palestinians buy the Israelis without having "deep seated Jew hatred". I believe most posters at ZH don't hate the Jews.
And I believe the Democratic White House and Republican elements in Congress will reach a bi-partisan agreement to finally balance the budget and avoid the Fiscal Cliff, leading to general prosperity and American preeminence as far as the eye can see.
Read this or any thread---heck, even the Wonder Bread thread---and review your comment.
No samwell, fuck you... biggot...
America has already involved itself. Time to uninvolve ourselves. And save a few billion annually.
Who doesn't loathe the way Hamas fights from behind women and children, in order to claim their deaths are the Israelis' responsibility?
Where on Earth would real men fight his way? With gutless cowards like this, they could never, ever win their fight. No heart! They declare their cause worthless with such tactics. Only fools and fellow spineless wimps on ZH support them. Look in the mirror!
When a city is attacked real men stand up and protect their woman and children. Do your wife and kids realize that you plan to abandon them in a crisis?
You anti-Semitic BIGOT! That is exactly what Israel is doing, and YOU are giving them hell for it. The Pallies fired numerous missiles into Israel, and the REAL MEN in Israel hopped in their planes, and flew there and bombed the crap out of the Pallies. YOU hypocrite! You just don't like the Jews doing exactly what you advocate because you are simply an anti-Semitic BIGOT.
Sheeesh! Have you no shame??? You need to go to a Bigots Anonymous Meeting, and stand up and say, "My name is CrockettAlmanac, and I am an anti-Semitic BIGOT."
They will help you get on the Bigot's Anonymous 12 Step Program, where you can learn to stop hating Jews, and quit denying the Holocaust.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
Squeeky Fromm, Hasbarium Enema
That crazy chick named herself after a Manson Family member who attempted to assassinate a President of the United States. It may have only been Jerry Ford, but it's the principle of the thing. I must admit that she does bear an astonishing resemblance to the original Squeeky Fromm in her ability to rave insanely and at great length.
Seriously, 4th. This SF sounds like a mouse trying to roar.
I'll say this though, given the way the world is structured, that while Israle is THE parasite of the global body politik, Israelis are being used too. TO be sold the crock their brainwashing, war mongering stae sells them from birth, along with the whole old testament, Pentatauch hate-spewing god-head, they canno treally be "blamed".
It's a bigger, more sinister play, with Israel being made the center of global hatred for their obviously daft policies.
That said, Squeaky obviously squeaks from outside israel. What makes Kazharis the world over so nationalistic about a "State" is interesting.
And anyone really wanting to dive into Israel's reason or being should study the importance of 1947.
And of course the Hollow-cost is a huge lie. The 6 million figure itself is ON PAPER from the late 1860's via the Zionist congress. It was the number that "needed" to be Hollow'costed (the word itself means Burnt Sacrifice) for Israel to be born.
But squeakers cannot hear reason, only propaganda.
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At least I don't come from a Nazi Insane Asylum like you stupid anti-Semitic BIGOTED-ass Holocaust Deniers.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
There once was a woman named Squeeky,
Who thought she was being quite sneaky,
By telling some lies,
Of incredible size,
And pretending Chuck Manson's just cheeky.
There once was a BIGOT named Crockett. . .
Who cheered a Gazanian Rocket!
When the Jews fired back,
Alas and Alack!
Herr Crockett decided to knock it.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
Squeeky defines the word "bigot,"
As someone who won't pay her ticket.
She's a Zionist mooch,
And she smells of vermouth,
Which flows like her lies from a spigot.
the almanac seems to have failed
when LET THEM EAT RAND even bailed
from the Jew haters rant
and the gaza mans plant
by the CNN news that we're mailed
Likstane is properly named,
For the drool down his shirt he's quite famed.
By flapping his gums,
For his mad little chums,
It's only the truth that he's maimed.
You're all a load of wankers.
Our goal is to dislodge the bankers.
They sell domes to the jews,
and rockets to the mus',
while ya'll persist in yanking our crankers.
Doesn't scan. All the others did.
For example, the first two lines should have a meter such as:
I see nobody here but some wankers,
Who forget that our target's the bankers.
And so on.
crockett has too much brain power
his itelligence drips like a shower
the monkey is funny as shit
and the stane has removed his dumb wit
cause this ryhme nearly took him an hour
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No no no, Crockett, you've got it all wrong. When your city is attacked, you don't defend and protect the women and children...........
.....you get in your aircraft and fly in over the enemy nitwits and blow the living daylights out of them so they die or learn never to mess with you again.
If you have to do it more than once because they don't get it........well, so be it.
In the case of Muslim attack, I think it would suffice not to kill or maim them, just explode a pork bomb with lard raining down over their cities/sacred sites. That would probably deter them for a while. After all, I don't think they want that suet all over Mecca......would they?
I just realized how noble you are. You're actually Davey Crockett, "the king of the wild frontier."
And you're really Clint Eastwood. Play Misty for me.
If a soldier goes home, he is a coward?
I guess IDF and Americans should never go home then.
If a soldier goes home, he is a coward?
I guess IDF and Americans should never go home then.
Hatred is an equal opputunity employer.
So is central banking, soldier.
In central banking ~ all the hatred is pointed, outwardly, in the same direction... No wonder the world is full of jew central bankers... It all makes sense now...
Don't junk me, Kevin
If a bunch of people from another continent showed up with guns and bombs, killed my kids and took my house because they claimed that their ancestors had lived there two thousand years ago I'd do a little hating myself.
What if a bunch of people from your own country showed up with guilt and legislation, ruined your kids and took your property because they claimed your ancestors didn't live here two thousand years ago, would you do a little hating of yourself?. Just fcking with you, but read between the lines.
It sucks to be an American sheep always ready for shearing. But in Gaza the sheep get slaughtered.
Moahmmed personally chopped off the heads of 800 Jews in a single day after he tricked them into surrender. Now that's a slaughter! He really knew how to rock the kasbah back in 627.
Christians did far better than that. Where's your home team spirit?
The American Indians got over it, so can the Palestinians............
The American Indian was wiped out primarily by diseases brought from the Old World. The Palestinians are currently out breeding the Israelis two or three to one as stressed populations often do. The trend is your friend.
Like native Americans? Or is it that you'd be happy to hand your back the land to native Americans, then?
Ya know, just because you're being so PC and all, helping the Palestinians. Which one, then?
Liberal hipocricy knows no bounds, so feel free to lie to prove your point.
Here's some truly sick shit:
...all of this is only to pave the way for them fucking with Iran.