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Protesting Spanish Cops: "Forgive Us For Not Arresting Those Truly Responsible For This Crisis: Bankers & Politicians"

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Yesterday, in what is an appetizer to the great 2013 convergence trade (that, between the now thoroughly dead Greek and the Spanish economy, which is rapidly getting there, of course), several thousand Spanish policemen took the streets of Madrid protesting the latest round of austerity, which included frozen pensions and the elimination of the Christmas bonus (they will have many more opportunities to protest not only the loss of any future upside, but the eventual cut of existing wages and entitlements). As RT reports, protesters blew whistles, shouted slogans, and carried anti-austerity banners as they marched through the city centre to the interior ministry. But perhaps the most telling message read on one of the slogans, was the following: "Citizens! Forgive us for not arresting those truly responsible for this crisis: bankers and politicians."

And there you have the entire current clusterfuck summarized in one simple sentence: because as long as those responsible for the ongoing economic collapse, which will inevitably end in war as many have observed, Kyle Bass most recently, are not only not arrested but preserve their positions of power, any and all change will merely be cosmetic and any real change will only affect the bank accounts of the global middle class which are slowly but surely drained to zero.

More from RT:

The Spanish government has imposed harsh spending cuts aimed at saving 150 billion euros between 2012 and 2014. The move has been met with anger and protests from hundreds of thousands of Spanish citizens.


The austerity measures are in exchange for a rescue loan of up to 100 billion euros from the EU to help the country’s stricken banks.


"The problem is they take from us to give to others, like the autonomous regions and the banks," 33-year-old police officer Antonio Perez told AP.


But it’s not just their pay the police are worried about. 


A spokesman for Spain’s Unified Police Union, Jose Maria Benito, said the cuts will affect the nation’s security, adding that working conditions have become more precarious and law enforcement equipment was no longer up to standard.


“We are here to tell the government that security has to be its priority…in socially convulsive times, we need an adequate police response,” Benito told AP. He added that 15,000 workers who have left the force were not going to be replaced.


"Each year, between 1,500 and 2,000 police officers retire and 125 are recruited, which means in three or four years, there will be more insecurity and crime in Spain," the union’s general secretary Jose Maria Sanchez Fornet said in a speech.

A picture summary of the event:

Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
 Spanish police officers hold a banner of the Unified Police Union (SUP) depicting Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy (L) and Spain?s leader of the opposition Socialist Party (PSOE) Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba and reading "They are the same" during a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers hold a banner of the Unified Police Union (SUP) depicting Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy (L) and Spain's leader of the opposition Socialist Party (PSOE) Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba and reading "They are the same" during a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers hold banners of the Unified Police Union (SUP) and a giant banner reading "Against the cuts, all the policemen together" as they take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers hold banners of the Unified Police Union (SUP) and a giant banner reading "Against the cuts, all the policemen together" as they take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers march past police vehicles as they take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government?s latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)
Spanish police officers march past police vehicles as they take part in a demonstration against the Spanish government's latest austerity measures in the center of Madrid on November 17, 2012 (AFP Photo / Dominique Faget)

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Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:41 | 2993414 ghengis86
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They still can arrest those fuckers, so why march and hold a sign?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:44 | 2993418 jimijon
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Exactly... nothing else to say. Just do it!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:46 | 2993423 Enslavethechild...
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Petition the Treasury to print money, fire the Federal Reserve

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:55 | 2993433 Insideher Trading
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There aren't enough productive citizens to fund our globalized empire and welfare state. We need an entity to print money to keep all those unemployed people with mouth fulls of lobster. The Fed is the chief enabler of fat lazy citizens.


The politician will never get rid of the FED for the above three reasons. The FED allows politicians to promise things to voters they otherwise wouldn't be able to afford. It' a cozy relationship.


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:56 | 2993439 knukles
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And who said the sheeple were a sleeple?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:03 | 2993451 Enslavethechild...
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The only difference between the Fed printing Dollars and the Treasury printing Dollars, is Interest payments, the Politicians would still delegate where the money went. If we go direct democracy that would be even better because then people could actually vote.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:08 | 2993467 Popo
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...and somewhere in high towers the global elites are chuckling at all this shouting and arm waving.   Historically speaking, this shit only ends when the guillotines get rolled out.  Until then all of this is just theater.

Now an interesting "prop" on these marches would be a few home made guillotines.   That might *start* to get the message across.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:28 | 2993504 Enslavethechild...
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Why waste time, the cops need to pull out their guns and arrest or shoot all the Bankerticians today. Talk is cheap. Put your money where your mouth is....

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:33 | 2993514 This just in
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I thought they were all broke...who paid for all those banners, signs, and wearable swag?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:40 | 2993526 Enslavethechild...
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Central Bankers

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:55 | 2993672 Abitdodgie
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Police have got to be the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, have you ever tried talking to one of them they live on a different planet.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:31 | 2993709 macholatte
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Clearly the cops know what's going on and are not stupid. They are simply on the take and cool with it. Nobody gets in trouble as long as the bribes keep flowing. It IS that simple.

AND.... they don't want to get into trouble for being guilty of criminal negligence.

This is NOT science fiction. It's real lfe....... but it's not a comedy either.

Oh, and here's another sentence that sums it up..... from Popo ...... and certainly worth another read at this time.


Empirically speaking, there is no crisis that the elites cannot manage.   Because if they're still walking around in the open, they're clearly managing it.   


Damn near eloquent!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:54 | 2993814 Enslavethechild...
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Cops are all 100% self-oriented, they could give a flying fuck about anyone else...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 16:30 | 2994210 Michaelwiseguy
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They're not protesting austerity. That's just the Zionist cabal story headline.

They're really protesting "Perpetual Government Debt Enslavement" and getting nothing for their tax dollars.

They're protesting because their governments are not repudiating the bankster debt the corrupt politicians signed the people onto, which will let the people get on more comfortably with their lives.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 17:12 | 2994323 macholatte
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..... and you believe in Santa Claus too.


Not a word from the "authorities" until their entitlements are threatened. It is human nature.



Mon, 11/19/2012 - 08:31 | 2995459 Mesquite
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So...It was loss of Christmas Bonuses, that finally did the trick...Hmmm

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 01:25 | 2995185 All Risk No Reward
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While that is what they are protesting, many don't know it.  While Europeans tend to be more literate the average American, they don't understand the system.

Yes, bankster debts are being transferred to society while society's money is being transferred to the banksters.

This is the perrrrrfect lead in to the deflationary spiked pit that will preceed the eventual (hyper)inflation after the bond market goes up in flames (when it serves teh [D]elite self interest to blow it up, of course).

While I like much of what libertarian minded people have to say, the consistent "hyperinflation" meme is doing a disservice to the many.  There was a reason Rockefeller Foundation paid for Mises to come to America and financed his message.

Does this make Mises bad?  No.  But it does mean that the [D]elites saw soemthing there that benefitted their agenda - else they wouldn't finance his message.

The government IS NOT sovereign.

It has been hijacked by a criminal international banking cartel.

The cartel is sovereign, the government is a subject.  This money flow diagram proves this relationship:

Debt Money Tyranny:

BTW, Rockefeller Foundation won't fund the publication of Debt Money Tyranny like they funded Mises.  No, this cuts way too close to the debt money enforciing Federal Reserve Trojan Horse beam.

The politicians are just trying to get on the good side of the criminal international banking cartel out of pure, psychopathic self interest.  They actually despise and hate those who vote for them.  The laugh at people who put bumper stickers with their name on it as they take a crap.

That's the problem with Ron Paul - he doesn't out the criminals, rather, he puts out the false narrative that they are "stupid."  Mr. Paul.  They aren't stupid.  The corrupt, thieving criminals.  Tell the truth.

The truth is people can't face the truth.  Jack was right - they can't handle the truth.  They will embrace the comfortable lies that lead to a dance with the devil and I recommend people focus primarily on the "after party."

#1 Gain direct control over the necessities of life (including protection and the knowledge and training to use it).
#2 Organnize a community around #1.
#3 Repeat #1
#4 Repeat #2
#5 Possession isn't 9/10s o fthe law, it will be 100% of the law when this Federal Reserve credit bubble crime spree pops.  If you value it, get it under your direct control.
#6 reread and re-implement #5.

One day and $1800 gold coin will be worth more than $100k in the insolvent back, but that doesn't mean people will pay $1800 when the money supply (debt) shrinks 30-50%+.

And yes, it will happen.  JP Morgan's owners control the money supply and they aren't giving 3.5% 30 year loans ahead of a hyperinflation.

Bernanke is a front man shill - he has no power.  None.  If he goes rogue on the international banking cartel, he will end up being Kennedyed or Breitbarted (or britbart's coroner who was poisoned a week later).  Bernanke isn't dumb, he knows he a bought and kept worm.  He's just "doing his portions" for the criminal international banking cartel.

Once they turn to the bust operation, the criminal [D]elites will bust the nations and use all the trillions they stole from the nation states to buy up Earth, real chit now, not paper dollars, for PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.  Oh, and all their competittion will be wiped out.

Then they will hyperinflation to balance the books.

It is so elementary.  It is what you'd do in their shoes if you hated the common person like you hate temrites or cockroaches.  Hyperinflate to bail out debtors?  Not a chance.

People like to talk about "losing confidence in the dollar" as the mechanism to trigger hyperinflation.  That view exposes a superficial understanding of debt based money.  Can you lose confidence in your mortgage?  You car loan?  Your student loan?  I didn't think so.  Those loans ARE YOUR MONEY!  There is not enough money to pay back the criminals who set up Debt Money Tyranny - BY DESIGN.


The American Dream - George Carlin (caution language)

This system was designed, from the ground up, to enslave you to debt under the ILLUSION of wealth so you work to build lots of stuff that they will end up seizing when they call back their loans.

Argentina and Weimar were DEFLATIONS from the perspective of the the criminal international banksters...  stop thinking like a serf...  end the serf perspective.  Think like a criminal, thieving, murderous, psychopathic central bankster and the black star of evil aligns.

But hey, they wear suits and ties and the media they won and finance pretends they are upright people - that's all the camo that's needed to fool the average American debt slave "consumer."

They won't face the truth, so we all have to dance with the devil and deal with the after party.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:12 | 2993598 mumcard
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The print shops must be rolling in the dough.  As many leaflets and flyers I got from the local criiminals running for office, there's got to be a shortage on ink.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 16:37 | 2994228 Uncle Remus
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My country collapsed politically and economically and all I got was this fucking t-shirt.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2993503 el Gallinazo
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The treasury printing money rather than the Fed would be quite useless without the revocation of the "legal" right for banks to counterfeit money, otherwise known as the fractional reserve system.  The "right" of "private" banksters to counterfeit money and then lend out this bogus money at interest  is the heart of the world control program designed to put the 99% into complete and total serfdom.  The Rothschild cabal certainly got that right.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:08 | 2993587 Enslavethechild...
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We would be better off if all our taxes didn't go directly in to the pocket of that short little fat bald man that nobody even knows. Instead, we could pay teachers, firemen or some other...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:42 | 2993649 mumcard
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Or we could pay people that actually produce goods that can be sold for profit.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:27 | 2993734 Bangin7GramRocks
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You Ayn Rand reading jit-bag! When the collapse happens, pussies like you will be the first ones looking for protection from the police. And don't talk to me about your personal arsenal. Cuz when the shit goes down, me and my boys are still going to break into your trailer, fuck your dog, eat your wife and take your "stack".

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:42 | 2993780 mumcard
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GL with that. 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:56 | 2993823 Enslavethechild...
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U fucking cunts try to take my stash and I'll blow up your entire trailer park leaving nothing but a deep crater

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 01:39 | 2995197 All Risk No Reward
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Education needs to be revamped.  The oligarchs seized control of it in the early 20th Century and institutionalized a sophisticated but wicked version of "schooling" over a proper, critical thinking oriented education.

The Ultimate History Lesson:

The playlist link is at the bottom of the video itself.

Throwing more money down the current system won't do a thing.  For example, my kid told me they were having an "election" this year.  I told him that I bet they only give you two choices for President with no ability to write anyone in.

Guess what?  I was right.  Soome think tank devised this plan to brain wash children that there are only two candidates worth their vote.  By the time they are 18, most will be properly trained to vote for the criminal international banking cartel financed and promoted Democratic candidate or the criminal international banking cartel financed and promoted Republican candidate.

Note the commonality - the criminal international banking cartel financing and propmotion.

My son questioned his teacher why there was no option to vote for another candidate and his replay was "well, nobody is interested invoting for other candidates."  Under his breath he quickly closed with, "but I see what you mean."

My son left the ballot blank since he has no interest in voting for the mouth that lies to him or the face that smiles at him while the country is looted by a criminal international banking cartel through their fraudulent Debt Money Tyranny.

Debt Money Tyranny

The game plan to destroy American and the Western nations is right there - for all to see.  Nobody has articulated an argument as to why our system doesn't work this way at a macro level.

I have a friend who doesn't take the criminal looting by this international banking cartel seriously.  He's over in Israel right now on vacation.

Bankster chit gets real when their finianced munitions start bombarding you.  It will also get real when they begin their concerted effort to restrict credit and asset strip the Western nations.

Oh, and for those who are in to trivia, guess which religion doesn't allow usury until they are bombed by NATO and a central bank is set up to impose Debt Money Tyranny upon the population?


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:59 | 2993679 jimmytorpedo
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Isn't direct democracy still two Obama Phone Ladies and a guy with a job, voting on what do with his earnings?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:06 | 2993584 butchee
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Once you go macro, you can't go back bro.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:28 | 2993510 masaccio
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Your side lost the election. Losers tears taste sweet to the Winners.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:48 | 2993547 awakening
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'Gross: Whew! It’s over. To the victor belongs the spoils of political power but to the US voter only continuing frustration will accrue.'

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:06 | 2993583 mumcard
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Your side lost too dumbass, you're just too farking stupid to realize it yet.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:55 | 2993438 Tirpitz
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Ain't there way too much 'money' sloshing around the system already? It's just in the wrong hands...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:17 | 2993481 el Gallinazo
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It's not money sloshing around but debt masquerading as money.



Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:23 | 2993495 Enslavethechild...
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Newly printed money is created as "credit". Personally, I am O.K. with that as long as it doesn't go to the criminals

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 01:42 | 2995202 All Risk No Reward
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That's because you don't udnerstand the 10,000 foot view of debt based money.

Only criminals would set up such a system and, therefore, the criminals will always benefit from the system.  What you ask for is a logical impossibility.  I don't just make claims, I prove them.

Here's why...

Debt Money Tyranny

Once you understand that chart, you will see that debt based money is a nation subjugating and enslaving mechanism run by criminals for the benefit of criminals.

This top down, not bottom up.  Top down it is fraud, fraud, fraud all the day long.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:09 | 2993588 mumcard
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I haven't been here long enough to know all the correct terms, but I'm pretty sure the FED is offering it to banks for zero percent interest (trying to goad them into loaning), but the banks aren't loaning because they're already hyper-extended and they don't want to be gobbled up by the bigger banks ala 1929.  Could be wrong, but the surest way to get a response in America is to say the wrong thing.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:32 | 2993632 Enslavethechild...
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Response: The Banks aren't loaning newly printed money because they still have the initial deposits that people put down on their homes that were foreclosed and continue to benefit from foreclosing on more properties. The fresh paper is going into driving food prices higher

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:35 | 2993637 mumcard
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I thought it was because the banks don't want to show the devalued prices of real estate against what they have loaned out so they are hiding it in a shell game hoping for a reinflated (property) bubble.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:08 | 2993854 Tirpitz
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That sure is one thing, and another one is that very much money is outside the banking system, in dark pools beyond any control and oversight.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:29 | 2993741 Ballin D
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Theres way too much money sitting in the system already.


You'll know when it starts sloshing when inflation blows up.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 21:38 | 2994837 Iam_Silverman
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"Ain't there way too much 'money' sloshing around the system already? "

According to the financial pundits on TeeVee, it's really just sitting on the sidelines, waiting to be deployed....

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:46 | 2993424 falak pema
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like in love, in war their are creates the ambiance.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:30 | 2993629 GottaBKiddn
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This is simply a long line of would-be recruits to the new EU Army. No change of heart.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:58 | 2993431 vast-dom
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my dear friend, a spanish diplomat in Madrid, finally now admits that it is getting serious over there...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:17 | 2993509 Daily Bail
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I have no symapthy for the Spanish Police.

They are thugs.

This Is What Happens When You Get Too Close To A Spanish Riot Cop


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 16:55 | 2994287 Al Gorerhythm
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Wouldn't it be ironic if the people started bashing the police for demonstrating. MFs.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 21:07 | 2994775 Acet
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Keep in mind that those who go for riot cops are those who like beating people up: riot cops do not help people in any way, they are simply thugs in uniform.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:19 | 2998913 Tsukato
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It's too fucking amazing. Thousands of people surrounding a few cops, and the thousands are such pussies, they let the cops beat them?! People really are pathetic. Nobody in the crowd has a knife? Why doesn't anybody have the balls to shank one of those motherfuckers? I know why! The people demonstrating are doing so because govt is turning off the free stuff tap. People who live like bummies can never have confidence in themselves, and will always face authority in the way children face their father. Fucking pathetic cunts. This goes for all the weak assed cunts living on the dole, in any country, fucking up the future for productive folks. Maybe that eugenics thing ain't so bad after all.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:44 | 2993538 Non Passaran
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So now they will start really lying big time!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:10 | 2993591 mumcard
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Hell yeah, when they start cutting their thug's pensions it's getting serious!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:01 | 2993453 archon
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This is now a serious issue because the cops just realized they won't get their pensions.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:46 | 2993543 Urban Redneck
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Several years ago the unions supported Zapatero en masse when he was promising to reduce housing prices and build more homes... 

Why can't anyone just be happy when a politician actually delivers on a promise?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:12 | 2993596 Enslavethechild...
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Why can't anyone just be happy when we shoot all the Central Bankers?


Mon, 11/19/2012 - 03:24 | 2995281 NidStyles
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^^ How odd, you advocate openly the use of violence.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:23 | 2998941 Tsukato
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Why are you such a sad little backbiting cunt?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:07 | 2993586 JPM Hater001
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Rule 1 for global your thugs ontime.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:51 | 2993546 q99x2
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They can offer their security teams coke and hookers and then arrest them. If police start banging pans together that usually works if you just want to drive a bankster out of its nest. Although a pesky vermin like Rajoy might have to be arrested and deported. He gets paid enough to act brave (stupid).

Obama is going to the South East Asia to try to get naval bases established to protect the oil reserve fields from China in the South China Sea. He is one stupid NoWO chaotist (dumbfuck).

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:24 | 2993884 monad
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Even the cops know that if they arrested them, they will pay the judges & lawyers to let them out & then punish the cops who arrested them in the first place, maybe fire them and their bosses too, to make sure the cops know not to do it again.

Sign could say, "Honk if you want us to execute the bankers and politicians who destroyed civilization". So why bother making signs and marching? Same reason they didn't just do it already. They need a well advertised list of names, photos & addresses with the number of victims and amount stolen by each criminal, to prioritize their work.

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 04:07 | 2995312 zuuuueri
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exactly.. what's this 'forgive us' BS, fucking go and arrest them already! then we'll talk!
otherwise you're more public-money parasites sucking down a salary even while you march down the street bitching about your pensions!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:27 | 2993623 TahoeBilly2012
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For those with little knowledge of The Clash (and Joe Strummer) this song was famously misunderstood. Strummer meant to encourage white folk to rise up against their leaders/banksters. The people of color were already in the streets over oppression, Strummer meant to see working whites demand fairness and justice, whatever that might have meant.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:37 | 2993642 Enslavethechild...
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Black or white, the people are going to do away with central banking and their interest earning,  property and resource theft scam

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:45 | 2993419 Insideher Trading
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I don't know if the police in Spain are like the police here in America but I can say with certainty 95% of the police where I live don't do a fucking thing but sit around blind corners and collect revenue from unsuspecting drivers minding their own business.

Completely support the police but we have too many. There was a time when they were called peace officers, and today they are mostly revenue generators. At the end of the day the citizens who fell victim to hurricane Sandy were left to defend themselves. My advice is to familiarize yourself with a weapon, because in the future if you need an officer, there's a good chance one won't be there.


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:55 | 2993437 Winston Churchill
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I remember getting a parking ticket at 2am in NW Washington DC.

That same night there were 14 shootings in SE DC ,where police fear

to patrol the steets at night.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2993446 vast-dom
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FUCK THE 99%+ of police! 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:58 | 2993448 nmewn
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No shit.

My wife just got a $104 no seat belt ticket two days ago. They're like a pack of highway robbers sitting along the roadside at every town & cross road.

We could live comfortably without 3/4 of them.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2993459 Insideher Trading
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When I was in San Diego I got a $250 ticket from a cop for drinking a 6 pack on the beach with my girlfriend. of the free

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:19 | 2993487 Enslavethechild...
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Yesterday in Compton I got a $341 ticket for driving my zero-emission-vehicle in the zero-emission-vehicle lane. Copsuckers...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:19 | 2993488 nmewn
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They offer you the "security" of knowing you will be bled out slowly over time instead of taken out back and shot quickly.

I'm under no illusions that they are being told in these economic times that "If you like your job, you better write some tickets." But they are going to have to decide which side they're on.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2993502 fonzannoon
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I got a cell phone ticket in NY. $250. i deserved it. no excuses. but i figured on one thing, lazy cop. so i went to court. my cop never showed up. case dismissed. i'd say in at least 60% of the cases, right or wrong, the cop was absent.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:40 | 2993528 nmewn
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Thats just it fonz, its not your fault, its a stupid law to begin with.

There was law already on the books for erratic driving...if a cell phone or whatever...made you swerve all over the highway you can be pulled and ticketed. Just driving down the road, minding your own business, seatbelt or not, cell phone or not endangering anyone.

Next they'll ban car radios or GPS as "distractions" never fucking stops until we stop it!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:47 | 2993545 fonzannoon
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I was going to change that aspect of my comment but I decided to leave it to see if someone called me out on it. I'm glad you did.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:56 | 2993564 nmewn
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You keep pitchin em and I'll keep hittin

It really has gotten one can walk down the street (let alone drive) without breaking some law.

And don't even get me started on cops taking their cars home (burning MY gasoline, in MY police car, on MY roads) only to have them come flying by me doing 80 mph because they're late for work the next morning.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:17 | 2993604 Enslavethechild...
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Our founding fathers looked their comrads in the eye and pulled the trigger, only to see a Redcoat lay dead on the ground in a pool of his own red blood.

Expect change in 2013, if I were a cop I think I would start looking for safer job...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:37 | 2993641 fonzannoon
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A cop in front of me about 3 months ago hit it's lights and pulled an illegal U turn to get into the parking lot of a bagel store in the middle morning traffic.  Everyone came to a screetching halt so this fat fuck could get his bagel. So I made the same U turn right behind him and parked next to him. He was so freakin mad LOL but he had nothing to say.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:05 | 2993689 dogbreath
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Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:14 | 2994001 vast-dom
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Glad you beat the ticket Fonz. But they still robbed you of whatever time they extracted from your limited finite life. 


Several years ago i received a JAYWALKING ticket in Los Angeles crossing a street that did not have a car in sight. I'm a New Yorker. I almost went to jail for assaulting a cop. Yeah I can afford the best lawyer and the pig was just doing his job after I was heated....

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:32 | 2994053 A Nanny Moose
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The more laws there are, the more criminals there will be.

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 08:54 | 2995474 Mesquite
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Also always thought it strange that others have used mobile radios forever..

That 'others' = Ambulance, Fire, Tow Truck, Taxi, Service trucks, and yes, Police..And other Agents..

But it's ok for them to be on the radio while driving...Hmmm 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:28 | 2993505 Insideher Trading
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Those tickets help pay their pensions and they know that, that's the problem.

At the end of the day it's not entirely their fault, it's the politicians who wrote all the punitive laws under the guise of it being 'for our own safety'. It's like a lawmaker trying to ban guns because guns kill. Well if guns kill, pencils misspell words and spoons make people fat. I'm a grown man, the last thing I need is for some fucking politician to tell me what's for my own good or what's safe for me. I'm getting really sick of this shit.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:30 | 2993511 masaccio
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Must be tough to see your country taken away from your, loser.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:33 | 2993515 Enslavethechild...
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Why the FUCK are the cops protecting the CRIMINALS?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:06 | 2993582 honestann
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Because the criminals sign their paychecks.  Plus, most cops these days are thugs, and like to harm and intimidate people.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2993612 Enslavethechild...
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If the cops protected and served the people, they would still get paid. They're just a bunch of chicken shit mother fuckers, that's all.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 16:05 | 2994170 IrritableBowels
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Power tripping, for sure.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:32 | 2994056 A Nanny Moose
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There isn't as much revenue in prevention.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:34 | 2993516 fonzannoon
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Once their comp is on the line they are as absent of any morality and dignity as any banker is. It's the same shit.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:19 | 2993489 10mm
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Land of the FEE.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:33 | 2994065 A Nanny Moose
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Home of the slaves.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:18 | 2993802 Jugdish
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Cops are notoriously violent and aggressive towards female companions. One lady gave me 1,000$ table, 400$ lawnmower, and 800$ washer/dryer because her cop finacee beat her and she wanted no thought of him to remain. She had to hide at the women's shelter for weeks with other women that had  their asses kicked by their cop boyfriends. I often look at cops and see a cocktail of steriods, viagra, and propecia, a dangerous combination, makes for a very toxic human-being.

Cops are nothing more than revenue enforcers for your Rothschild, UCC, legalized slave system. They are scum. Notice if your community is like mine, they all have new cars and there are more and more of them and the local corrupt bureaucrats can't get elected to the public graft commission without the blessing of the local Police "Benevolent" Association or other union.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:00 | 2993449 booboo
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WHAT! You mean collecting the kings ransom from debt slaves traveling on the Kings Highway is not their job, blasphemy!! Arrest this man.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:11 | 2993473 archon
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HA! The police in Spain are nowhere near as good-for-nothing as the cops in the US.  And yes, there are way too many of them, too - every time I get back from overseas I feel like I'm comong home to a godd@mn police state.  I can go for days overseas and see only a handful of cops... I come back to the US and there's one on every other street corner, writing random tickets to honest citizens in-between their donut breaks.  "Protect and Serve" my @ss - they just tasered a guy in Tampa who was trying to keep his house from catching fire.  F*ck all of them.  Yes, all of them, because if any of them were worth a d@mn, the "good" ones should be arresting the bad ones.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:46 | 2993660 Enslavethechild...
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Cops protecting the criminals.

The same criminals that are stealing EVERYTHING from us, and blowing the limbs off innocent children, even babies, so they can continue their theft spree of wealth and resources.

Justice will be served quickly, severely and permanently

Soon, very soon...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:23 | 2993617 jimijon
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I live in Chicago. You can't (illegal) to carry a weapon to protect yourself against the revenu collectors. However, I always notice that our big wig politicians always surround themselves with gun carrying protectors. 

Do as we say, dare I say it... bitchez!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:04 | 2993687 Abitdodgie
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Police are the new terrorists.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:45 | 2993421 Silver Garbage Man
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Maybe this is why DHS bought a billion rounds of hollow point.
Only a matter of time before this gets way too close to home.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2993444 knukles
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Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:18 | 2993607 mumcard
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It's too bad (a good thing) they didn't read Unintended Consequences.  Those 9mm/.40 cartridges don't reach out very far...., well not far enough anyhow.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:55 | 2993670 Enslavethechild...
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Apparently they only plan on rounding up city folk.

Us country folk use .223 and 9mm wouldn't even get near us.

Any of you city folk that cuurently have guns might consider trading it in for a rifle with a scope


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:11 | 2993697 CunnyFunt
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If people can't be trusted with 20oz soft drinks, do you think Bloomberg would allow rifles in his urban paradise? You can't even keep an air gun in NYC. The ducks are already lined up in many U.S. cities ...


Disclosure: Long 300 Win Mag

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:55 | 2993430 slackrabbit
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Dear Spannish Cops - no I don't forgive people who are paid to protect the people and then intentionally make the choice to protect the criminals; either buy willfully not investigating them or prosecuting them.

You made your choice, you are still making your choice!

Your are guilty and you even admit it, yet still you do nothing.

Your just concetration camp guards using the line of 'just following orders'.

Your time is up.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:59 | 2993680 Enslavethechild...
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We will not forgive them if they are only bluffing and do nothing about the criminals.

The time is up for sure, we shall see which side of the line they stand on when the shooting starts for real

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:54 | 2993435 nmewn
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Forgive you?

I still don't see them in jail! All I see is you with your hand out to the very ones you ask the people to forgive you for not arresting!

Nonsense, do your duty, remove your own guilt, then we'll discuss compensation.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2993447 Tirpitz
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I ain't on the side of a trigger-happy revenue-minded police force, but isn't that the job of the DA & Cons. to start the prosecutions?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2993465 nmewn
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Yes, it is. It is the process of the law.

But when the process of law has been irretrievably broken by graft & corruption from the top down it ceases to be recognized as law. They shouldn't ask for forgiveness for something they are unwilling to fix.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:24 | 2993498 archon
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"The law" is a godd@mn farce everywhere in the world.  Lawmakers, lawyers, and law enforcement are all one big, faceless, corrupt bureaucracy, where nobody is accountable for anything.  They haul grannies off to jail for planting tomatoes in their yard, while banksters starve whole nations, and prosecutors and cops manufacture evidence, lie under oath, and judges are nothing more than political cronies.  Let the whole system collapse on itself.  Good riddance.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:59 | 2993829 Ballin D
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I got a drinking ticket in a small town a few years back when I was 20.  I go to a student legal advisor (gov't employee) for preliminary research and she tells me to hire a lawyer.  Gives me the name of the DA's buddy.  They have a policy in this town where you can pay the court costs + fines + $250 cash and it goes away.  Dismissed, no questions asked.  However you have to get the signature from a bunch of people that work in the DA's office so every step of the way they tell you to just hire a lawyer (the DA's buddy).

This circle-jerk has evolved to the point that the police write possession tickets for anyone near any alcohol.  Students pay a chunk of cash and it goes away.  Gov't gets money, DA gets a donation, and lawyer gets a free $250-500 depending on how gullible you look.

Im a stubborn asshole so I threw time at the problem and walked for $200 total but in the process I learned that nobody ever fights the bureaucracy.  As long as people are willing to go with the flow and not think or fight for themselves, the problem will only get worse.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:37 | 2993522 DeadFred
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We will forgive you for being LATE once you've done the job.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:44 | 2993536 nmewn
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Exactly and we have to be careful in our "free speech" in telling them what their job is ;-)

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2993613 mumcard
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And the DA is usually a political animal that is hoping to join the ranks of the bloated fatcat scumbags, they won't pounce on the group they hope to join.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:38 | 2993921 falak pema
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there is NO separation of power in our democracies; the regulatory capture is total.

It is that hubris that allows such situations to develop. No responsible government, with banking regulators, honest judges and honest legislators would have allowed this situation to arise in the first place at all levels, government and local.  

If we are where we are its a sign that there is  regulatory capture by TBTB concerning the opacity and criminality of their past decisions on a SYSTEMIC basis.  What is executed for Simple Simon when he attacks his fellow citizen in law court is denied the same when he attacks the banksta or when he pleads "I'm bankrupt". The system is biased. The bias is proportional to the previous crime as a state can never admit to its people the amplitude of its criminality or negligence. Never, except under duress of regime change. 

People's revolt can and should bring about regime change. In this case it should opt out of Euro strangulation. But that...means financial collapse.

We are in unchartered waters. Both in terms of democracy and finance. 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:42 | 2993935 mumcard
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Yep, they've learned their lessons well.  There will be no muckraking press to point out corruption this time.  They've been bought out.  The regulators as well.  The only weapon we have is the internet and that is on the chopping block.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2993440 RSloane
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I'm very glad to see this action and hope it escalates. In Greece as in Spain, until the police join the rioters and help them tear down the physical barriers separating the crowds from politicians and bankers, the people will continue to be looted by the very individuals who claim they are there to serve them. Politicians and bankers have to be in fear of their own health and lives before they will stop draining the lifeblood out of their respective countries. Nothing short of that is going to change anything for the citizens.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2993464 Tirpitz
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Them politicians still command the military, and them uniform fellows play around with tanks and fighter planes. Wanna be slaughtered like the civilians in the Gaza strip are?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:24 | 2993618 mumcard
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I don't know about Spain, but in America there are around 100 million gun owners.  They would never be able to step foot outside a "safe" zone again.  Their families would become targets.  Any civilian casualties would build rage against the system. 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:04 | 2993684 Enslavethechild...
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The future of freedom of mankind globally  is being fought in the battlegrounds inside the minds of young men and women that will decide to join or  not join  the military to enslave and kill others less fortunate than themselves

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:49 | 2993801 Tirpitz
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'They would never be able to step foot outside a "safe" zone again.  Their families would become targets.'

Like the Blankfeins, Corzines and Madoffs? Sorry for the cynicism.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:55 | 2993817 mumcard
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I meant when the US Military is used on American civilian populations, but I get your point.  Most of the people Madoff et al., ripped off were fairly wealthy and they still have too much to lose to go after them.  As more people have little to lose we'll see a change.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:17 | 2993870 Tirpitz
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Actually I doubt we'll see any change unless the entire system implodes (which it will, but when?). The people don't go after the worst single criminals of a lifetime, so why would they go after millions of lesser ones? Then, let's keep in mind that a healthy bunch of muppets even voted for the slimebags proudly shielding them, again.

The neighbors behind the loaded barrels won't unite unless they are directly, physically threatened, and by then it is too late for each of them. So, unfortunately, once more the bureaucrazy wins over personal responsibility.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:27 | 2993894 mumcard
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With 100 million gun owners, even if only 1% are willing to resist it will be enough.  Former USMC here.  If ragtag bands of poorly equipped hajis gave us fits, then what will Americans do?  They don't have enough hellfire missiles for all of us.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:00 | 2993682 WTFx10
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Pussification of the populous is the problem and you advocate it. Afraid of getting a hangnail? Why? Do you enjoy the un-lubricated ass reaming those politicians are giving you now? Don't want it to stop?


Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:54 | 2993815 Tirpitz
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"Pussification of the populous is the problem and you advocate it."


"Afraid of getting a hangnail?"

Again: no. But, what for, to what end? You can be sure a gun-toting police officer knows much better than most of us about the formidable, more potent organisation holding up a corrupt regime. Without a military coup I see little chance for bettering. And the generals are in the system's pocket. Reason enough to believe more in leaders of Corporal rang...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:24 | 2993886 StychoKiller
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Okay, we understand that you'd rather live on yer knees than die on yer feet...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:22 | 2993615 mumcard
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The cops will either join the rioters or they will be like the the South Vietnamese troops ditching their uniforms as the commies took Saigon.

Mon, 11/19/2012 - 07:51 | 2995429 fajensen
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The Spanish police could do like the Serbian police did when the American embassy in Belgrade got torched by rioters: Form an orderly line, then break out the Beer, Sausage and Marshmallows!

No wages, No protection - It would hurt the banksters paying for their own protection from their own pockets! And, perhaps, add a little incentive to not piss off people so much that the price of said protection goes up!!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 10:56 | 2993442 tony bonn
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as guilty as politicians and banksters are of economic and fiscal terrorism, the people of spain elected the irresponsible assholes year after year after year - they all share in the destruction of their thatcher said, socialism is great until you run out of other people's money...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:08 | 2993468 djsmps
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And the voters in this country elect the same irresponsible assholes year after year after year.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:45 | 2993525 falak pema
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this banksta mayhem has been hidden sleight of hand of huge proportions; the people had no idea as there is no due diligence done since 20 years on the private banking sector by the crony politicians.

That is one of the beauties of the Reaganomics-Thatcherist  mantra that was sold in NWO hubris by triumphant USA to the rest of the world. "If you want to stay in the race you better leverage up your banks and asset markets..."

Worked beautifully via derivatives soup bowl ! 

The spanish people are no more guilty than those of the US, whose sort is hidden under the reserve currency carpet by QE infinity, that Spain cannot do.

Its no different anywhere in first world. Only some are burnt first as they are SMALL and insignificant. That is the overriding criterium! 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:17 | 2993605 Fuh Querada
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The € will also be subject to QE to infinity, n'est-ce pas?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:28 | 2993625 mumcard
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Once women were taken out of the home and put into the workforce the children were shipped off for public indoctrination, after that it was just a matter of time.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:01 | 2993452 JustObserving
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If cops in New York talked about arresting bankers or politicians, Bloomberg would fire them in a New York second.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:07 | 2993693 mumcard
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And in a fit of rage a NYC cop would shoot 9 people standing around Bloomberg

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:51 | 2993773 JustObserving
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If you shoot 9 innocent people, you will keep your job.  But if you don't meet your stop-n-frisk quota (UF250), you are liable to be fired.  Bloomberg has his priorities right about everything including sodas and shootings of innocents.

Just preserving the American way of life, 1800 victims a day.  You have gotta love New York - and its mayor.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:01 | 2993454 bugs_
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look at those nice new shiny clean maintained vehicles

look at those nice new spiffy clean maintained uniforms

look at those professionally crafted signs they are carrying

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:02 | 2993455 gould's fisker
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Spanish authorities will soon realize their error and give the cops their pensions (after all that's what this is really about) and the billy-clubbing will resume--don't get your hopes up.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2993506 dogbreath
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You are right, but the pensions will dissapear at some point anyway because of the continuing Fiat/Debt Ponzi4.  The spanish cops are like all statist servants in that they took the job because of the perks and salary that are above the norm and now they are just protecting their entitlements.  Ho Hum

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:36 | 2993520 gould's fisker
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That's what is so ironic--everyone is elbowing each other out to keep their "guaranteed" check and once gotten they can fold themselves back into the collective, but nothing is guaranteed over the long term that economic activity/markets can't support or provide cover for national currrencies' worth.  This aspect is somewhat disconcerting, and the fact that we seem to be more interested in national affairs events like Bubba the Love Sponge.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:11 | 2993594 dogbreath
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that paula/general/jill story is such a distraction.    Bread and circuses.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:29 | 2993899 mumcard
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I could see the gov stooges turning this around by saying "these ungrateful citizens don't want to pay you what you deserve" and come up with some new tax/license/fee/ticket ideas to fund the cop's entitlements.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:05 | 2993461 Enslavethechild...
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If the stupid mother fuckers have guns, why don't they stop wasteing time and arrest the criminals immediately

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2993466 petolo
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There most direct, effective and peaceful way to rid ourselves ofthis vermin is to stop "feeding" them. Pay no more taxes. If just one person does it, they will call him a lunatic but if 10 do it , we have the start of a movement. Does anyone know of a tax resistor,s organisation? How about Anonymous heping the IRS with their bookeeping?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:21 | 2993490 Insideher Trading
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Stop being so unpatriotic. Be happy citizen, pay your fair share.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2993614 Bullwinkle Moose
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When they take taxes right out of our pay, how in the world are we supposed to stop paying taxes?

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 12:48 | 2993664 Doña K
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  1. Declare 22 dependents and don't file. There is the 16 ammendment but, there is no law that you must file.
  2. Start a pas-though company such as an LLC in a no tax state and get the same job through your company.  
  3. Work under the table (not litterally) Make sure there is enough headroom <jk>
Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:16 | 2993708 Abitdodgie
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I stoped paying taxes about 4 years ago, love it.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 13:45 | 2993791 HalinCA
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I've talked about this before - states only have one hope to regain sovereignty: gain control over the money their companies now automatically send to the IRS on behalf of their citizens.

Here's how.

1. Indemnify any of their citizens and companies that agree to redirect their federal withholding taxes to the state treasury instead of sending it to the IRS. That way it will be the state, not the individual, who is in the IRS's cross hairs.
2. Set up a mechanism so the state treasury only sends as much money to the IRS as they get back from the Federal government in the form of grants, matching payments, etc.
3. Create a state bank and charter it to issue a state currency as legal tender for all debts owed within the state. 
4. Use the leverage from 2) to renegotiate the terms of the state's participation in the federal system.

Obviously only states that have strong economies can pull this off over the resistance of the banksters.  This article from the Pew Center on the State gives an idea which states could 'lead the charge':

Having done these things the states will regain sovereignty.  As long as most tax money leaves the states for DC, they will have no leverage in any negotiation with DC over redressing their loss of sovereignty.

Feel free to pass this on to anyone you wish to, including talk show hosts, politicians. etc.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:06 | 2993849 Ballin D
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In school we learned less than 1% of tax returns recieve individual attention.  Supposedly there is an algorithm to profile which returns they should check.


The more you know... 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 17:24 | 2994349 Being Free
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Supposedly there is an algorithm to profile which returns they should check. 

Yes, among other things, they apply Benfords Law, which is also used extensively in forensic accounting.  When I put together my "return" (now there's a strange name).  I always make sure the numbers follow Benfords law.  Here's a couple links if you're interested...

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 14:39 | 2993920 mumcard
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They've already shown they can run at huge deficits and just fire up the printing press.  I don't think you can get enough people on board to make a difference.  Plus, the IRS would start sending out machine gun toting teams to very publicly destroy anyone doing this.  So if you're willing to fight them, then I say more power to you, but if not then perhaps another strategy.

I am leaning towards sabotaging the system and costing them resources.  Like poking a hole in Officer Friendly's tires at 3 a.m.  This sort of behavior would drain small town's treasuries very quickly.  And while the feds may help out, it would take them time to do so.  Just like recent FEMA response times. 

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:17 | 2993482 debtor of last ...
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Policemen are tax collectors. They must become greed collectors.

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