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Gaza And Israel Agree To Ceasefire, Oil Plunges

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Just following the motions here:


So who breaches the ceasefire first?

In the meantime, gullible algos go no bid in brent.


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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:13 | 2998879 Newsboy
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Good opportunity for False Flag breach, eh?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:24 | 2998943 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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want to bet the massive call up to go only to the border and stop has more to do with a strike on Irans nuclear facilites than unguided rockets from gaza?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:28 | 2998967's picture

Less blood, cheaper oil. Great news.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:33 | 2998981 Dalago
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So Israel WON'T break this cease fire... again?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:38 | 2999007 smlbizman
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look what a little imf money gets you......

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:52 | 2999054 Dalago
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Michael Scheuer breaks it down properly on how ME issues are all because of Israel and their control over the US gov't:

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:06 | 2999122 Randall Cabot
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Netanyahu may be nutty but he knows that the anti-tank weapons that Hezbollah used to make smoldering coffins for jew Merkava tank crews in 2006 will be behind every wall if he invades Gaza so his bluff has been called and he blinked!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:18 | 2999150 blunderdog
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There have been warnings to Bibi for years that there's no rescue coming this time.  The strategic importance of Israel for the US military is basically gone, and the expense of the PR campaign (both financially and in terms of "political capital") has become too much to bear.

Things will change soon enough.  Either the Likudniks will drag the country into an unwinnable war, or they'll be forced to rein in their aggression a bit.  At LEAST they could try bringing the rhetoric in-line with Israeli public sentiment.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 18:39 | 3000185 phyuckyiu
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Some folks in Israel got the major smack down, you don't send 75,000 reservists home after calling them up unless you got the smackdown from outside.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:19 | 2999153 Hugh_Jorgan
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Uh... NO. Hamas was about to cease to exist, this is why THEY blinked without getting the IDF naval blockade dropped as they were salivating over.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:19 | 2999943 downwiththebanks
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Apartheid Israel is lucky to have Hamas running the show in Gaza and the MB in Egypt:  were they faced with real Resistance, their rash and arrogent behavior would have far more dire consequences.

Instead, at the moment where the Zionist project--genocide and Apartheid from the Nile to the Sea--has begun to rot a cease fire is agreed.

Apartheid Israel was begging for the rockets to "Just stop," as they Tweeted the other day.

Yet another vicious attack on Gaza.  Yet another round of dead babies and grandmas in wheelchairs on the part of those brave warriors bombing from 25,000 feet.  Yet another FAILURE by the Zionist Apartheid government to quell the rocket fire.

That's 4 military defeats in a row going back to 2000.  Time for this hideous, cancerous blot to vanish.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 18:45 | 3000198 phyuckyiu
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Hamas blinked? You called up 75,000 reservists, then had to send them home without using them. You think Bibi sent them home because he got what he wanted? You've been smoking that Colorado dank again I see. Try some Hezbollah hash, maybe that will improve your clarity.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:20 | 2999160 Hugh_Jorgan
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RT? Seriously? Russian state-run anti-US propaganda is not worth anyone's time, even to see Michael Scheuer...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:27 | 2999188 john39
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yes, by all means the sheeple should stick to U.S. government approved 'information' sources such as CNN, MSNBC etc...  where you are sure to get the best propaganda money can buy.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:33 | 2999203 Mad Cow
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You really think RT doesn't have an agenda? Don't be naive.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:39 | 2999228 john39
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use discernment...  and yes, i find RT to be superior all around to U.S. MSM media.  not perfect, but superior.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:48 | 2999239 Mad Cow
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I thought you were talking about propaganda, carry on then. Enjoy RT's "news."

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:07 | 2999306 Spirit Of Truth
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About the only decent "news" from RT is the live feed they have overlooking Gaza:

Of course, even that is for propaganda purposes:

Even so, in the last hour or so, flares were spotted over the perimeter of Gaza that seems to indicate an IDF ground operation might have begun:

There's been no news reports confirming this at present, but a heads up might be in order.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:22 | 2999947 downwiththebanks
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Apartheid Israel doesn't dare invade Gaza.

They know fully well they can't get south of Beit Lahiya without their entire weak-ass fucking army getting annihiliated by a PRISON COLONY!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:41 | 2999021 Middle_Finger_Market
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Buy the dip.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:24 | 2999090 Canadian Dirtlump
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<--- I'm going to pack a picnic lunch and sit on a hill when israel bombs YOU bitches.


in the works apparently.. this will of course force them to invert the lie that hamas is being emboldened by the muslim brotherhood (sunni) and blame iran (shiite). But obviously Satanyahu wants to bomb iran. After losing big on the US elections with his boyfriend of 35 years, increasing (proper) world disgust at Israel, failure to incite war with Iran yet, and disastrous economic conditions - he needs blood fast.


Who breaks the ceasefire first? The one who always does. Israel - the world's scariest rogue nuclear power.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:13 | 2998880 mess nonster
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Who breaches the ceasefire first?

The enemy, of course.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:21 | 2998927 JPM Hater001
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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:23 | 2998936 cossack55
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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:24 | 2998947 samcontrol
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both within 48hrs.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:33 | 2998986 johnQpublic
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CIA for 2000 Alex

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:46 | 2999250 waterwitch
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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:47 | 2999255 JustPrintMoreDuh
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agents of Al-CIA-duh

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:14 | 2998886 blunderdog
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Whew.  I'm so glad they can now return to PEACE.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:18 | 2998912 centerline
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I was getting worried for a moment there that they wouldn't get along.  All is better now.  Love and hugs for everyone.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:36 | 2998997 blunderdog
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Oh noez!  We spoke too soon!

Attacks on a US Embassy?  CALL THE BOMBERS!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:34 | 2999586 Gert_B_Frobe
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There was no attack at the US embassy. It was just a protest. Susan Rice to explain in a few. Carry on.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 16:20 | 2999748 blunderdog
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Oh, right.  It was a Jewish guy--they're our allies.  It wasn't politically motivated either.  It would only have been an attack if it had been a Muzzie.



Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:14 | 2998887 King Dong
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I love the smell of peace in the morning

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:42 | 2999029 Harbanger
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I love cheap crude in the morning.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:43 | 2999040's picture

So you let her sleep over?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:08 | 2999125 Harbanger
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That's the last time, I think There'll be some changes made.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:15 | 2999141's picture

Very nice. Here's Earl Scruggs performing at an antiwar protest in 1971. He's looking for some changes too.


Foggy Mountain!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:26 | 2999178 Harbanger
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I love Earl Scrubbs. :)

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:16 | 2998891 ebworthen
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I heard on NPR this morning that over 700 missles were launched into Israel from Gaza by Hamas BEFORE Israel started any retaliation.

500 to 1 odds that Hamas ends the "cease-fire" with some Hanukkah missile presents.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:23 | 2998942 john39
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thanks for sharing the propaganda benni nuttyahoo.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:42 | 2999035 DaveyJones
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he needs to get out more

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:23 | 2999170 Hugh_Jorgan
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ZHers need to get off the antisemitic "fairness in war" bandwagon, it's a loser...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:40 | 2999223 DaveyJones
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"antisemitic "fairness in war" bandwagon"

those five words sum up your "logic" and objectivity

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:58 | 2999282 GoinFawr
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Careful now DJ, you're on the verge of having Godwin's Law invoked against you.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:26 | 2999362 Canucklehead
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You are trying to sell a bridge to Harold Hardrada.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:32 | 2999370 tickhound
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Personally, I've enjoyed watching zerohedgies play "Who's the Terrorist?"  Once the resident neocons start calling one another "socialist" - I'm hooked.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:36 | 2999394 GoinFawr
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That's Mister Socialist to you, you statist you.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:26 | 2999955 downwiththebanks
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AshkeNazi Jews aren't Semitic and Palestinians are.  The Beauty Part is most of the genocidal racists who defend Apartheid so fervently don't even know this!

The people who use the epithet "Anti-Semite" are invariably the TRUE anti-Semites!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:28 | 2999190 ebworthen
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Yes, I'm certain those weren't rockets the loving Muslims shot into Israel, but rather bouquets of flowers.

What is all this insanity about the wonderful poor downtrodden peaceful Palestinians?

No doubt half-truths on both sides but the anti-semitic defense of missile shooters and suicide bombers is veering into tin-foil hat territory.

I don't think Israel should have been established, bad idea, but there it is.

Do you expect the Jews to allow the Muslims to kill them?  Erase them from the page of history?  Or whatever euphamism the Muslims use to mean "exterminate"?

It's war.  All is fair in love and war.  If you are basing your self-esteem on your bleeding heart for the Muslims you should go live with them and see how things go.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:34 | 2999207's picture

When American politicians call for regime change in Iraq, Iran, Libya and elsewhere they are promoting freedom!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:40 | 2999234 john39
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if my land was stolen...  if my people were blockaded in an internment camp...  if we were attacked daily by the IDF....  I would fight back.  In America, we used to call that defending ourselves....  before the propganda turned most into fascist bootlickers...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:24 | 2999351 Canucklehead
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Are you serious?  You (and your kind) would be the first to serve the overlord and expect to be first in line to get crumbs from the overlord's table.

Who are you trying to kid with your fake bravado?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 16:30 | 2999460 GoinFawr
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Well, I suppose that's the sort of response we should expect from a member of a nation that would elect to power a party with a leader who flat out says shit like,

"And we cannot be effective at major economic matters any longer unless we work with our economic partners around the world and work with them closely and intimately. That is essential. I know some people don't like it. It is a loss of National Sovereignty but it is a simple reality. It is a simple reality."
- 'Conservative' PM Stephen Harper

I wonder what he meant by 'closely and intimately'. (nudge nudge wink wink.)

Imagine trying to sell that bill of goods to an USean; any USean, including those who have already long since gone full retard.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:04 | 2999904 Canucklehead
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Gone retard is in the eye of the beholder.

North America accepts all immigrants...  Just check your bigotry at the shore...

If you can't compete in a global village, why did you leave your village?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 20:12 | 3000416 Harbanger
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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 20:06 | 3000397 Harbanger
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US propaganda is so mainstream and entrenched, that you already have no liberty and don't even know it.  Better yet, you defend those that stole it from you.  Forward!!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:29 | 2999965 downwiththebanks
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To what lengths will you go to defend Apartheid?

You act like the UN fiat decision made in 1947 to steal a whole bunch of land is settled.  Apartheid Israel is destined for the ashcan.


Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:31 | 2998973's picture


I heard on NPR this morning that over 700 missles were launched into Israel from Gaza by Hamas BEFORE Israel started any retaliation.


Did I miss the end of the Gaza blockade which is an act of war or are you simply misinformed?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:35 | 2998992 Canucklehead
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The blockade has been in place for eons.  No one can remember when it started.

Gaza survives nicely.

What materials/products does the blockade stop?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:41 | 2999025 john39
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what fucking planet are you from? Most in Gaza live just above subsistence, and kids are not even allowed to import musical instruments. the blockade is pure barbarism:

"In implementing the siege on Gaza, Israeli officials sought to allow "for subsistence without the development of malnutrition." "Red Lines" is a poignant reminder of how that measurement, the calorie, works as a tool of exclusion and political containment."

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:45 | 2999050 LFMayor
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Iif they're starving, what the hell do they need musical instruments for?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:53 | 2999083 DaveyJones
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music is mankind's first escape and second expression. Starving cavemen had instruments. Try again. 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:21 | 2999344 Canucklehead
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I'll agree that the use of lips was part of mankind's first escape.  I don't think they were wrapped around those pipes...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:34 | 2999384 LFMayor
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LOL, too true.

Bearded bagpipes, you say?

Skin flutes?

Meat whistles?

I think that holy Koran forbids that too, doesn't it?   Must have been more of that sweet tobacco.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:39 | 2999408 Canucklehead
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Me thinks many here have had significant experience with sweet tobacco.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 19:29 | 2999089's picture



Iif they're starving, what the hell do they need musical instruments for?



Even the Nazis permitted music in the concentration camps. Are you trying to make them look kind in comparison?


Playing For Time is a 1980 CBS television film, written by Arthur Miller and Fania Fénelon, based on Fénelon's autobiography, The Musicians of Auschwitz. Vanessa Redgrave stars as acclaimed musician Fania Fénelon.

Playing For Time was based on Fénelon's experience as a female prisoner in the Auschwitz concentration camp, where she and a group of classical musicians were spared in return for performing music for their captors. The film was also adapted as a play by Arthur Miller.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:03 | 2999116 john39
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the point is that the Israel government does not see Palestinians as human, and treats them accordingly.  not hard to figure out who the real souless monsters are if you spend five minutes thinking it through.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:06 | 2999123 LasVegasDave
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you can think?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:11 | 2999133 john39
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typical magaphony response... attack the messenger...  what's the problem, can't counter facts with facts?  sucks when truth isn't on your side, doesn't it....

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:19 | 2999342 Canucklehead
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Okay, I'll play along...


Do you feel superior now?  Can you hear me now?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:30 | 2999364 GoinFawr
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:47 | 2999436 Canucklehead
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No, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:30 | 2999568 GoinFawr
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:03 | 2999292 Oldballplayer
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A critical thinker  might take that question back a few more steps.  For example, why don't the Jews see the Palis as human?  What would cause normal, thinking people, to feel that someone else is inhuman.

And then take it back a few more steps.

Your propaganda is just as thin as theirs.

How about you ALL stop shooting at each other and let us get back to titties and crocodiles on TV.


Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:59 | 2999476 john39
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>>What would cause normal, thinking people, to feel that someone else is inhuman.

ignorance, propaganda and lack of a soul.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:31 | 2999976 downwiththebanks
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How about if someone steals your land, bulldozes your home, rapes your sister, and kills your offspring?

Would that do it?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:50 | 2999071 Bay of Pigs
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Listening to these braindead trolls and AIPAC operatives gets a little old. Some real humanitarians aren't they?

Of course, any pointing out the facts on Gaza is labeled an "anti semite", regardless of race, religion or background. 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:07 | 2999124 BostonBill99
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...but they have MISSLES.  Screw food and medicine.  We got MISSILES!!!!

Like that blockade is really keeping anything out.    They border Egypt and Egypt is supportive.  You really think that border is locked down????   How else would Iran get their missles in there???

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:18 | 2999149's picture

Those aren't Iranian rockets. Those are Congreve rockets. Put the blame on Brits in powdered wigs.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:44 | 2999043 DaveyJones
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Is "nicely" an antonym for humanely? 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 19:52 | 2999078's picture


What materials/products does the blockade stop?


Are you suggesting that Israel boards Gaza bound boats and kills or imprisions the passengers in an attempt to not stop commerce from entering or leaving Gaza?



In January and February 2011, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) conducted an assessment of the effects of the measures to ease the access restrictions.[12] They concluded that they did not result in a significant improvement in people’s livelihoods.[12]

They found that a limited reactivation of the private sector resulted from the increased availability of consumer goods and some raw materials but the "pivotal nature of the remaining restrictions" and the effects of three years of strict blockade prevented a significant improvement in livelihoods.[12] Although the unemployment rate in Gaza fell from 39.3% to 37.4% in the second half of 2010 there were significant food price rises.[12] There was little or no improvement in food insecurity rates in Gaza which continued to affect 52% of the population.[12] Few of the 40,000 housing units needed to replace homes lost during Operation Cast Lead and for natural population growth could be built as a result of the ongoing restrictions on importing building materials.[12] The approval of over 100 projects funded by international organizations intended to improve the "extremely deteriorated" water and sanitation, education and health services, followed the easing of the blockade.[12] The implementation of these projects was delayed by the entry approval process for materials and the limited opening of the Karni crossing.[12] OCHA found that there had been no improvement in the quality of services provided to the population of the Gaza Strip as a result of the projects so far.[12] There was no significant increase in the number of exit permits granted by Israel to allow access to the outside world including other parts of the Palestinan territories.[12] Permits continued to be issued by Israel only on an exceptional basis with a 114 being issued during the second half of 2010.[12] OCHA described Egypt’s move to regularly operate its crossing with Gaza for special categories of people as a "significant, albeit limited, improvement".[12]


Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:38 | 2999006 Jesus Christ
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Did I miss the reason WHY the Gaza blockade was first implemented by Israel, or are you simply misinformed?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:47 | 2999061 DaveyJones
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Jesus, you forgot your lines. Don't you remember, you root for the underdog and have a thing about imperialism. 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:52 | 2999079 LasVegasDave
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Shh.  The anti Yid crowd and the Muslims have built a nice coalition.

You'll ruin it for them

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:09 | 2999129's picture

The stupid things Dave says in Vegas should stay in Vegas.


Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists

Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:19 | 2999155 LasVegasDave
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Always knew you were a closet fascist.  Yes, by all means, lets silence those we disagree with.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:27 | 2999182's picture

I was hoping that you wouldn't embarrass yourself further. The Jewish people who oppose the occupation of Palestine or even the state of Israel itself are not anti-Semitic. But you go right ahead and broadcast your ignorance for all the world to see.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:16 | 2999328 LasVegasDave
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the type of jews that oppose the war in gaza are the same jews that worked for the nazis in the warsaw ghettos  and are working for soros today.  they are a disgraceful cadre of oppurtunists, self haters and competitive altruists.

Now, get your nose out of your ass, and get back to your farm

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 19:20 | 3000292's picture

Dave doesn't support the troops.



Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran combatants who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public debate about the price paid for a reality in which young soldiers face a civilian population on a daily basis, and are engaged in the control of that population’s everyday life.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 00:16 | 3001129 GoinFawr
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SHoulder to shoulder CA

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:02 | 2999113's picture



Did I miss the reason WHY the Gaza blockade was first implemented by Israel, or are you simply misinformed?


Wasn't it because when you steal people's land and kill their families they will eventually become angry and fight back?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:10 | 2999130 LasVegasDave
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I guess if you sink the USS Liberty, you forfeit your right to return to your historical lands that were stolen from you, right

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:21 | 2999161's picture

The US should certainly suspend all support for Israel if for no other reason than that they have used the arms which we supplied them with to kill our own servicemen.


Survivor: Shell casings found on deck afterward were marked "Ft. Dix, New Jersey" indicating that our men were killed with munitions supplied to Israel by the United States.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:22 | 2999169 john39
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historical lands...  right.  based on the bible, with a total lack of historical evidence... you think its just fine to kill and throw off the current inhabitants of the land, who had been there for centuries... so that descendants of European converts to Judiasm (Ashkenazi) can take the land despite no real historical connection?  btw, those Palestinian people are actually Semites, who have a much stronger claim to the land by any definition...    so save the BS, Israel is a colonial empire with no moral or historical claim to Palestine. 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:06 | 2999304 Oldballplayer
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Are we supposed to track all lands, on all continents back to their original owners and do a title search?  If that is the case I need to work on my Mohegan.


Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:36 | 2999396 LFMayor
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they helped pioneer those bitchin haircuts.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:59 | 2999479 john39
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you don't have to track in Palestine, the real owners are still alive...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:03 | 2999488 Canucklehead
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The palestinians are "actually" disapora of the Persian and Babylonian crusades that captured the Jewish homelands back before the times of Elvis.

The Persian/Babylonian diaspora emmigrated to Judea looking for an easy life.  Not the type of people to prosper, they have existed is a forlorn state, looking for someone to give them things.  They were moved to the Outremere when the world decided it was time to right many wrongs by "ensuring" the Jewish homeland is re-established.

Iran supports Hamas because Iran supports Iran.  End of Story.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:14 | 2999513 DaveyJones
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which is reason number one that those who took place in creating this unique historical move have an obligation to both sides and the rest of the world to (1) act objective - with the key emphasis on act (2) set and enforce rules that both sides keep and (4) stop never ending expansion for resources

Like so many other things these days, the US is failing miserably

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:39 | 2999595 goat
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Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:33 | 2999984 dinastar2
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John 39 , up to 1948 half of those palestinians  were bedouins, sudanese, egyptians , turks, iraquis , nomads who made their way to the Jewish National Home, to find work in the sprouting economy that the jews created. Ther other half arabs muslims and christians were without any kind of national identity , they defined themselves as southern syrians, or ottomans.Get a copy of Joan Peters 's book " From time immemorial " and you will read the exact figures, numbers, and foreign origins of those so-called palestinians.

The one and only name of this land is the " Land of Israel " meaning the land of Jacob and his descendants ( jacob had his name changed to Israel after he fought with the angel of god )

Concerning the european origin of ashkenaze jews ( converted to judaism ) this is a fantasy after a novel by Alfred Koestler.The jews all over their 3000 years of history have always been very reluctant to proselyte. 

If you need more elements you should read the bible and the koran.

To save you time, please note Jerusalem is mentioned 822 times in the bible .

And in the Koran , guess how many times ? ZERO., never , ever.  

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:30 | 2999197's picture


Israeli Historian: Palestinians Are Biological Descendants of Bible’s Jews


Most Zionist thinkers were aware of this: Yitzhak Ben Zvi, later president of Israel, and David Ben Gurion, its first prime minister, accepted it as late as 1929, the year of the great Palestinian revolt. Both stated on several occasions that the peasants of Palestine were the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:18 | 2999941 dinastar2
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Another proof that brain & intelligence are not coming with the genetic heritage.The palies are close to the jewish minds as much as  Mel Gibson is close to soberness .

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 19:26 | 3000307's picture

Where's your documentation?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:45 | 2999981 downwiththebanks
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To hold onto land Apartheid Israel stole fair and square by UN decree?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:34 | 2998991 johnQpublic
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you know those "rockets" are only about 3 feet long right?

about the size i shot off as a child

minus the hand grenade taped to the end of course

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:41 | 2999022 LFMayor
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well, that makes it okay then, doesn't it.  Until one lands in your living room and interrupts Glee.

Fucking idiot.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:55 | 2999092 john39
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it seems that land theft is not without its costs...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:38 | 2999404 LFMayor
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not nearly the impact of fucking with the one part Darwin got right.  We need to take the warnings off of plastic bags for a generation or two.  Thin the herd out some, they're over grazing on subsidized governtment subistence.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 17:35 | 2999991 downwiththebanks
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And this is really what it comes down to, isn't it?

The scumbag land-theives who call Apartheid Israel home are all good when non-Semitic AshkeNazis are bombing, massacring, and killing Semitic Palestinians.

But a few bottle rockets launched into Occupied Palestine, a few people wet the bed and a few others have panic attacks, then we get the call:  CEASE FIRE!!  PLEASE JUST STOP ROCKETING US! 

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:15 | 2998892 TWSceptic
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buying opportunity

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:16 | 2998895 Dr. Engali
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If I could have a silver ounce for every time I heard that over the course of my lifetime.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:16 | 2998898 dracos_ghost
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Didn't want to interrupt Black Friday sales.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:17 | 2998900 Stonedog
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I give it  5 or 6 hours until the first breech by one side or the other...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:17 | 2998904 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Quick Blankfein, unload your short positions!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:04 | 2999118 DaveyJones
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One day, he'll be standing without his shorts

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:17 | 2998906 Silverhog
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Just a breather to move armaments around.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:25 | 2998948 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Welcome to Jamrock!

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:17 | 2998907 earnyermoney
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Looks like Hillary can go back to sleep.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:23 | 2998937 Perpetual Burn
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She can go to hell.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:26 | 2998960 tocointhephrase
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Hell dont want her

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:33 | 2998984 DaveyJones
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Even Patsy Cline told her not to take it literally

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:35 | 2998995 falak pema
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people like her get indulgences for heaven. Frst class. But the question is even there who would want to cavort with her in eternal bliss? 


Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:19 | 2998915 Wolferl
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Seems the Jews ran out of targets.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:26 | 2998959 walküre
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They were losing the propaganda war for sure. It just looked awful. Israelis will have to live with the guilt of being genocidal maniacs for eternity. If they were Germans, they'd have to pay to rebuild Gaza.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:36 | 2998996 john39
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they don't see it that way... apparently stuck on the ultra-violent parts of the Old Testament where someone or something posing as God ok's slaughter of entire populations to justify land grabs...  most of the world has moved on from this 'god said it was ok' mentality to murder...  but sadly, not the psychopaths in power in Israel.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:25 | 2999554 TWSceptic
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Luckily the psychopaths in power in the US have, oh wait...

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:21 | 2998924 JPM Hater001
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They know the elections over right?

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:26 | 2998952 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The Israeli election's in January.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:37 | 2999004 DaveyJones
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For the young on both borders, let's hope it backfires. It's losing ground everywhere else

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:24 | 2998945 vote_libertaria...
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Israel/Gaza...Europe/Greece... they are all waiting until Friday (after US market close) to spring the next wave of bad news.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:26 | 2998951 PUD
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Too bad the dead kids won't be celebrating

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:32 | 2998980 Canucklehead
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Are you talking about the kids who used hashish or heroin?  I realize alcohol is out, but we all know the world revolves around hashish and heroin.  Allah wills it.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:35 | 2998994 DaveyJones
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Dehumanizing is the oldest trick in the book 

Ask the Pope

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:58 | 2999099 john39
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the fact that the U.S. military guards the herion production in Afghanistan is apparently lost on the clown above....  The Taliban, for all its faults, actually managed to stamp out the herion trade...  until the U.S. military 'liberated' Afghanistan that is...   

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:01 | 2999111 DaveyJones
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dead on (ironically)

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:38 | 2999003 johnQpublic
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hashish doesnt kill people, no matter how much you eat, smoke or bubble

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 14:08 | 2999305 Canucklehead
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Hashish doesn't kill people, people kill people.  Sometimes people on hashish kill people (or at least grope them).

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 15:28 | 2999566 TWSceptic
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Yes, they are called cops.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:40 | 2999019 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Those who follow the Koran don't use drugs. 

Allah forbids it.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:44 | 2999042 LFMayor
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this is sarcasm, right? 

All those Egyptians  I saw burning the hookas,  (AFTER sunset since it was Ramadan) they must have been Mennonites.  Yes, Mennonites.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:26 | 2998958 Duke of Con Dao
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Gaza and Israel agree to Cease Fire...
guess this little girl gotta Zip that mouth of hers...
YouTube - Potty Mouthed 10 Yr Old Palestinian Girl Opens a Can of Kick Ass on Israeli Soldiers

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:29 | 2998968 john39
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I love that kid....

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:36 | 2998993's picture



Gaza and Israel agree to Cease Fire... guess this little girl gotta Zip that mouth of hers...




You might have success in silencing little children but these fellows aren't going to shut up any time soon:


Israeli Soldiers Breaking The Silence on the Occupation of Palestine


Former Israeli paratrooper Avner Gvaryahu, now an activist with Breaking The Silence explains to Green Left Weekly's Peter Boyle how 850 former Israeli soldiers have given testimony about the gross injustices against the Palestinian people they have witnessed and made to participate in as part of Israel's military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. He was visiting Australia to promote the book "Our Harsh Logic" (Scribe Publications).

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:42 | 2999032 Duke of Con Dao
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seeing Hillary again in a pantsuit was too much for either side to bear!

YouTube - Message from Israeli Defense Forces: In Gaza No One Rides for Free!

ass, gas, or grass... that means even Ahmed Jabril

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:49 | 2999067 Henry Hub
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If the camera hadn't been on they probably would have shot the kid.

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:31 | 2998972 DaveyJones
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We and they have lost and continue to lose a lot of leverage

Phyllis has some interesting things to say

Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:33 | 2998983 Kaiser Sousa
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zionist entity = NaziApartheid 



Tue, 11/20/2012 - 12:34 | 2998989 helping_friendl...
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Now that the USA has agreed to Egypt's terms for a 5 billion/year aid package the Egyptians are, once again, our "go to" guys.

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