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Ceasefire Between Hamas And Israel Agreed, Oil Slides

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And the Israeli update: ISRAEL HAS AGREED TO TRUCE IN GAZA, BUT WILL NOT LIFT BLOCKADE -ISRAELI SOURCES

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This is not the first time we have had rumor of a ceasfire between Hamas and Israel, but this one may be for real. If only briefly. From Reuters:

  • CEASEFIRE BETWEEN HAMAS AND ISRAEL AGREED -PALESTINIAN OFFICIAL WITH KNOWLEDGE OF TALKS

Oil appears unwilling to wait for any confirmation from the Israeli side and promptly slides.

 

We have seen this before...

 

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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:02 | 3002310 Fips_OnTheSpot
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and the Israeli "with knowledge" sits in his Panzer

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:06 | 3002329 tocointhephrase
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Sick

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:42 | 3002461 idea_hamster
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Google translated [Media Prop ---> Realpolitik]

ISRAEL HAS AGREED TO STOP KILLING GAZA QUICKLY, WILL RETURN TO KILLING GAZA SLOWLY

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:58 | 3002536 chumbawamba
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Brilliant.

-Chumblez.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:13 | 3002605 economics9698
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The middle east version of Friday Night Fights.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:29 | 3002686 mvsjcl
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And you thought that "two sides of the same coin" only applied to American politics?

 

 

I don't know. I just... it's so damn complicated. If only people would decide what they wanted without "representatives" speaking for them. Once you represent a body of people, you're instantly compromised.

 

I think what they fear the most is non-representation.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:37 | 3002733 Dalago
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I'm confident Israel will setup a false flag just to pulverization the helpless refugees out of existence.  THESE are "God's chosen?"  Wheres the fucking shame?  They're the spawn of Satan.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:08 | 3002859 caconhma
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The Egyptian President has a dual-citizenship: Egyptian and American.

Americans and their Zionist masters must protect their man in Cairo. Otherwise, the second and real revolution will take place in Egypt with the “Arab Spring” becoming a major Zionist nightmare. Remember, Egyptian people already got a taste for revolutions without using an American script.

The same has happened already in Iran when a British agent Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, after becoming the Iran Supreme leader, became his own man.

 

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 20:21 | 3003610 Dalago
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Ron Paul's view:  Its none of our business, politically.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF32kNvo2QM&feature=g-all-f

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:32 | 3003140 MSimon
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Gaza gives up after less than ten days. Hizbollah held out for over six weeks. Gazans are wimps. They didn't even force a ground offensive.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:52 | 3003474 ersatzteil
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"Gazans" include 800,000 children out of a population of 1.7 million who have been under land, air, sea, and economic blockade for years.

Hamas' mission is primarily social welfare, with rockets being used as a deterrent against daily Israeli airstrikes. In that sense they did not back down, and were fully prepared to respond in kind to Israel's escalation, including reverting to terror bombings (which Hamas had renounced years ago).

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 00:25 | 3003940 Hi Ho Silver
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"rockets being used as a deterrent against daily Israeli airstrikes"

 

That worked out really well for them. Brilliant.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:43 | 3002465 walküre
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Was the bus bombing too real for Israel? Why would they agree now? If you put 1.7 million people in a cage then you have a good fraction of that population, at least 10% willing to die free rather than live in a cage for the rest of their lives. That's 170,000 very motivated and spirited men or women and children willing to blow themselves up and cause as much damage and pain to their oppressor as possible.

That is what will happen, Israelites. Israel has created a ghetto for 1.7 million people with fractured leadership. If the leadership gets sorted out and they all unite behind one leader, Israel has to make concessions or it will get real ugly on the streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. 1.7 million aren't going to sit like ducks and waiting for Israel to build a railroad track to deport them one by one.

Israel has lost already.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:17 | 3002598 CrockettAlmanac.com
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And then there's this:

 

 

In the northern part of Israel the percentage of Jewish population is declining.[78] The increasing population of Arabs within Israel, and the majority status they hold in two major geographic regions – the Galilee and the Triangle — has become a growing point of open political contention in recent years. Dr. Wahid Abd Al-Magid, the editor of Al-Ahram Weekly's "Arab Strategic Report" predicts that "The Arabs of 1948 (i.e. Arabs who stayed within the bounds of Israel and accepted citizenship) may become a majority in Israel in 2035, and they will certainly be the majority in 2048."[79] Among Arabs, Muslims have the highest birth rate, followed by Druze, and then Christians.[80] The phrase demographic threat (or demographic bomb) is used within the Israeli political sphere to describe the growth of Israel's Arab citizenry as constituting a threat to its maintenance of its status as a Jewish state with a Jewish demographic majority.

 

Note that a portion of those Arabs are Christians.

 

Palestinian Christians Respond to Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdaWyFVKy4A

 


 

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:39 | 3002961 Dugald
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POGROM comes to mind.......

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:54 | 3003017 my puppy for prez
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Maybe they should have sex instead of bomb the crap out of brown people!

That would solve two problems at one time:  Lessen stress/pent-up feelings, and populate their tribe.....LOL

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:45 | 3003411 unicorn
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have the putatively cure www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lULaE6kv4

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:02 | 3002312 Cognitive Dissonance
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The (American) arms dealers ain't gonna like this.

<Someone get the White House on the line.>

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:11 | 3002349 EscapeKey
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Ah, don't worry. They'll announce a new cease-fire in 36 hours.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:01 | 3002552 chumbawamba
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There's always Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Lybia, Egypt, Lebanon, and of course Iran.

Their children will once again have a wonderful Christmas.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:47 | 3002992 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nice to see you haunting the halls of Zero Hedge Chumba. :)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:03 | 3002317 tahoebumsmith
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This time it will stick because Hillary the evil witch Clinton will get the credit even though she only showed up a few days ago and did nothing more then take the credit away from Egypt's efforts. Remember they have some ground to make up for Bengazi, just a strategic distraction to take the focus off the real truth of what is going on over there.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 02:00 | 3003354 tahoebumsmith
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Yup and a few hours later here comes the front page pics on Yahoo!!! I'm Talking WITCH...  the ral fucking thing

...BITCHEZ

http://news.yahoo.com/cease-fire-reached-gaza-173013768--abc-news-topstories.html

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:04 | 3002319 Overfed
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A cease-fire that only lasts 8 hours ain't much of a cease-fire.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:12 | 3002356 EscapeKey
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Sort of like my colleague giving up cigarettes 20 times per day.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:55 | 3002519 Water Is Wet
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Yeah.  Hey Tyler, you ran this same story yesterday.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-20/gaza-and-israel-agree-ceasefire

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:05 | 3002323 Buckaroo Banzai
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Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:06 | 3002331 Winston Churchill
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Seems like someone had a word in Bibi's shell like.

Must have been devastating for him not to invade.

Something like; 9/11, maybe ?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:33 | 3002428 john39
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the global media coverage of dead palestinian children was causing Israel's reputation great damage, deservedly...  outside the U.S. anyway, most americans are too dumb to see the gross disparity is loss of life and destruction between the Israelis and Palestinians...  because of this netanyahu knows...  some pretext must be created before they can continue the ethnic cleansing and killing.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:45 | 3002477 Jake88
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Too bad the idiot Palestinians don't yet recognize the disparity. If they did they might stop blowing up Iraelis. Doctor it hurts when I do this. Then don't do it. And if you do do it don't hide your weapons under civilians. 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:59 | 3002542 john39
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the human spirit and yearning for freedom is not so easily crushed in some.  take note fascist bootlickers.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:35 | 3002720 Jake88
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Palestinians are defeatist losers who refuse to take responsibility and move on with their lifes. Their psyche is that of a victim. A victim will always be a victim and a loser.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:48 | 3002785 Bay of Pigs
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Hear you loud and clear Jake Goebbels...

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:31 | 3003135 Jake88
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You heard only what you wanted to hear not what I said.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:02 | 3003367 Think for yourself
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It's unfortunate that I need to bear the bad news, but what you're saying and what you believe to be saying are probably not the same.

You said that Palestinians have a victim mentality and that this holds them back. Yet this is a complete inversion of reality: Palestinians have endured decades of attempted genocide, both overt and of manichean subtlety, through which their continuing resolve is a true testament to the greatness of the human spirit.

They keep their heads high, and rather than seeing themselves as victims (thus disempowered) or losers (and thus hopeless) as you state, they stick to their values, standing up to the herculean task of striving for their dignity and sovereignty despite the ruthless oppression and hermetic blockade imposed by the NaZi state of Israel.

Now either develop a coherent rationale for your baseless and shameful statement, or GTFO. You're not in Sophist Kindergarten anymore.

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 19:53 | 3003562 RichardP
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The average Palestinian does none of what you just said.  The average Palestinian is a pawn, used in a game played by various political factions.  In that sense the average Palestinian is, indeed, a victim.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 22:12 | 3003787 Jake88
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LMAO

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:39 | 3003155 MSimon
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BBbbbut Palestinians are socialists. And every ZHer favors socialism because it leads to freedom. Right?

 

The problems in the world are directly attributable to the capitalist pig jews.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:13 | 3002867 downwiththebanks
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Except that your "losers" are bombarding Apartheid Israel's little Storm-Troopers into a state of paralysis. Meanwhile the entire civilian population has entered into a collective frenzy of Bed-Wetting.

The Zionst "army without soldiers" does nothing but kill grandmothers and lose ground wars!  And all for Apartheid. . .

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:40 | 3003159 MSimon
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The mighty Gazans failed to force a ground war. Hizbollah did better than that.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 08:58 | 3004230 SWIFT 760
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Oh, you're clearly referring to the israelis.

Lets all barf in unison regarding one more word about Antisemitism and Hoaxacost.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:33 | 3003141 Jake88
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Freedom? They are prisoners only of their own victimhood.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:04 | 3003381 Think for yourself
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Please explain how the Palestinians are prisoners solely of their victimhood and not of NaZi Israel's oppression. From my above reply to your other identical post:

It's unfortunate that I need to bear the bad news, but what you're saying and what you believe to be saying are probably not the same.

You said that Palestinians have a victim mentality and that this holds them back. Yet this is a complete inversion of reality: Palestinians have endured decades of attempted genocide, both overt and of manichean subtlety, through which their continuing resolve is a true testament to the greatness of the human spirit.

They keep their heads high, and rather than seeing themselves as victims (thus disempowered) or losers (and thus hopeless) as you state, they stick to their values, standing up to the herculean task of striving for their dignity and sovereignty despite the ruthless oppression and hermetic blockade imposed by the NaZi state of Israel.

Now either develop a coherent rationale for your baseless and shameful statement, or GTFO. You're not in Sophist Kindergarten anymore. 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 19:56 | 3003571 RichardP
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The average Palestinian does none of what you just said.  The average Palestinian is a pawn, used in a game played by various political factions.  In that sense the average Palestinian is, indeed, a victim.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:01 | 3002546 downwiththebanks
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You have miscalculated badly.

Right now a prison colony, under seige, using a few bottle-rockets shipped in on the cheap, has an entire nation of Land-Grabbing White Imperialists wetting the bed and suffereing anxiety attacks.  Meanwhile, the steadfast Palestinian people withstand carpet bombing and drone attacks.

What does that tell you?

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:44 | 3002981 Dugald
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Er, don't live in Israel or Gaza....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:35 | 3003145 Jake88
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Are you serious? Do you have any idea how long this has been going on? It tells me that Palestinians are idiots losers and victims.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:12 | 3003393 Think for yourself
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Your logic is corrupt. How would the resolve of the Palestinians over decades of genocide in any way qualify them as losers? To the contrary, it is Israel's inhumane tactics that demonstrates both its soullessness and sore loser character.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 20:10 | 3003592 RichardP
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How would the resolve of the Palestinians over decades of genocide in any way qualify them as losers?

What is that quote which is so popular around here?  Something about the definition of insanity being to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result?

How has the Palestinian resolve over decades to destroy the Zionists, a vastly superior force, benefited the common man?  Consider what condition the average Palestinian could be in now if their "leaders" had elected to recognize the Zionist regime years ago.

A logic that is escaping you here is that it is the Palestinian political factions that wish the Zionists harm.  You cannot deny that they do.  It is not the Zionists that wish the civilian Palistinian harm.

You have a rational, but it is neither coherent nor logical when measured against the facts.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 09:05 | 3004243 SWIFT 760
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The kikenvermin are OCCUPIERS. I'd be steaming pissed for generations as well if some jew cunt kicked me out my house, stole my land and put me an the worlds buggest open air prison.

Btw, its now officially named Aparthied Israel.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:45 | 3002479 walküre
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Americans had no issues with dying Iraqi children either.

Why the fuck did we invade Iraq again?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:00 | 3002547 john39
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destroy any nation that could threaten Israel's plans... one by one.  the human cost is irrelevant.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:46 | 3003187 Canucklehead
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... Sort of like the way God knocked down those walls when the trumpets sounded...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:05 | 3002846 Titus Flavius C...
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory

 

Oil, war profiteers, central banks, and Ziocons.

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:55 | 3003019 blunderdog
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That Saddamn guy tried to kill someone's dad once...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:41 | 3003165 MSimon
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And don't forget his attack on the WTC pre 9/11.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:49 | 3003195 blunderdog
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He was stockpiling WMDs, too.

And we always invade countries when we need to spread some democracy.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:50 | 3003469 goat
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He looked funny too. 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:09 | 3002340 Titus Flavius C...
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Meh...  the psyops and propaganda has begun, with CNN leading the way.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/21/opinion/ghitis-israel-hamas-iran/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

 

Gotta love the effort to make it a battle between equals.  Palestinian rockets have killed under a dozen people in ten years.  While awful and indefensible, Israel has killed many times that in just the past 5 days.

 

Watching Hillary and Obama kiss the ass of the pro-Israel Lobby {by which I very much include Southern idiot Evangelicals} sickens me at this point.  We were supposed to be 'pivoting' to Asia, but once again, this shitty little country of 8 million people, and its 5th column of religious nuts and dually-loyal Jews, has hijacked our governments diplomatic and media attention, all while once again defending Israel from any and all criticism in the Security Council.

 

But they hate us because we're free, right, Hillary?

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:15 | 3002371 Piranhanoia
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if you watch CNN you will go blind.  and dumb,  and illeterot.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:46 | 3002488 Titus Flavius C...
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Oh, I just watch for Wolf Blitzer's fair and balanced reporting.   Also, I think Anderson Cooper is dreamy; the suits tey have him wearing really make his eyes pop.

 

Well, off to read what Jeff Goldberg at The Atlantic thinks.  He usually has some surprising insights.  Muslims are bad, Israel made the desert bloom, m'kay?

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:00 | 3002551 john39
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"wolf blitzer"... the former AIPAC operative...  great name btw...    what a total fraud.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:57 | 3003031 blunderdog
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Jeff Goldberg was awesome in The Fly...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:31 | 3002409 CrockettAlmanac.com
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There was an Israeli attack on the US Embassy in Tel Aviv yesterday. Anyone see that on TV? If it had been an Arab who attacked it would have run 24/7.

 

Axe attack at US embassy in Tel Aviv: Israeli police

TEL AVIV — Security guards at the US embassy in Tel Aviv on Tuesday fired shots at a man who attacked them with a knife and an axe, an Israeli police spokeswoman said, indicating the attacker had been apprehended.

"A suspect came to the US embassy at 11:00 am (0900 GMT) with a knife and an axe and attacked a security guard," spokeswoman Luba Samri told AFP, saying the guard was injured in the leg, prompting his colleagues to open fire.

"Other security guards fired shots at him," she said.

"The attacker was not hurt," Samri said, adding that the assailant, who had been arrested, was "not an Arab."

She did not give further details on his identity but said he was from the town of Bat Yam, just south of Tel Aviv.

Police said the incident occurred at the entrance to the embassy which is located on Yarkon Street, a block from the sea front.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iQhCUy68L9IaPt4xXytfQ...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:34 | 3002434 john39
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"not an arab"... gotta love the MSM, bending over backwards to keep the sheeple sleeping.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:50 | 3002497 Randall Cabot
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LOL That's like the dancing israelis and the other israelis caught with a truck bomb near the George Washington Bridge in NYC on 911 described by the jew supremacist MSM as "Middle Eastern". 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:23 | 3002664 whstlblwr
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"Israeli attack"? You guys are losers. Crockett.com what the fuck is up with you, got a hair up your butt? At least report accurately, this sounds like some single guy who was pissed off and you report as Israel military attacked the embassy.

Anytime Israel is mentioned on this blog, the loser haters come out. Now let's hear how the fucking Palestinians killed innocent people in a bus and terrorized a city, how would you like it if your family was on the bus? There are both sides to this story and your continued misrepresentation of the facts only helps Israel justify the need for their state.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:40 | 3002748 kralizec
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Welcome to Berlin, pal.  They eat up the Hollywood "feel sorry for the peace-loving Pali oppressed by the evil Jew" meme like it's free crack.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:44 | 3002759 CrockettAlmanac.com
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"Israeli attack"? You guys are losers.

 

 

The man was an Israeli. He attacked the US Embasay. That's the truth.

 

 

the fucking Palestinians killed innocent people in a bus and terrorized a city

 

No one was reported killed on that bus. You prove to be the liar once again. Why so hateful?

 

TEL AVIV, Israel -- A bomb exploded aboard an Israeli bus near the nation's military headquarters in Tel Aviv on Wednesday, wounding 27 people, delivering a major blow to diplomatic efforts to forge a truce to end a week of fighting between Israel and Gaza's militant Hamas rulers. Thousands of Palestinians fled their homes in Gaza fearing Israeli airstrikes.

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_22041320/bomb-explodes-tel-av...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:45 | 3002772 kralizec
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Like Major Hassan was an American.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:48 | 3002779 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Hassan disgusts me. But you seem to be quite keen on excusing the Israeli attack on the US embassy. Why do you hate Americans?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:49 | 3002788 kralizec
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America is run by an un-American leader, dang, ya got me!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:55 | 3002810 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So when Israelis attacks Americans -- as they have done before -- you just ramble on about nothing hoping that people will forget? We won't.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:56 | 3002819 kralizec
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Are we assigning guilt to individuals here, races and/or nations?  You really need to be more clear, wouldn't want to exact retribution willy nilly, now would I?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:00 | 3002831 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I want an end to all foreign aid, particularly to that nation which has used the arms we supplied them with to kill our own servicemen. Why do you want to take money out of my pocket to help fund those who kill our troops?

 

Survivor: Shell casings found on deck afterward were marked "Ft. Dix, New Jersey" indicating that our men were killed with munitions supplied to Israel by the United States.

 

http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:05 | 3002845 kralizec
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I love the open-ended questions.  End all foreign aid?  Love to.  Don't think I'll live to see it though, just like I won't live to see my taxes no longer funding infanticide, political campaigns, soul-crushing regulation, state sponsored enslavement of the underclass, all manner of unpleasantness.  Why you make me fund that shit?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:08 | 3002857 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I haven't made you fund anything. I'm a voluntaryist. But at least we can agree that Israel's aid should be cut off and that the men of Liberty should never be forgotten.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:18 | 3002889 kralizec
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Ahh, I understand now.  We can quibble over meanings till we turn blue, let us agree to agree where we can and on that I agree all aid should be cut (goodbye UN, damn what a glorious day that would be!) and men of Liberty are never forgotten.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:20 | 3002895 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Agreed. The foreign aid is going to have to end anyway. We is broke.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:21 | 3002901 kralizec
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We are beyond broke.  Broken, busted...  It's all just a waiting game right now, hopefully something can be built on the ashes...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:27 | 3002915 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Those of good character will prevail. Work smart, work hard, respect your neighbors and their property and consider voluntary charity for those in real need. The beginning is nigh.

A happy Thanksgiving Day to you and yours.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:50 | 3002999 whstlblwr
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We can all agree on the end to foreign aid and support for liberty, but the bullshit attacks on Israel as if it's the poor innocent Palestinians is bullshit, so stop the bullshit. The jury is still out whether there are deaths from the bus and Hamas is quoted as praying for the deaths.

Drones are fucked up that kill civilians and the terror shit is more fucked up.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:21 | 3003079 CrockettAlmanac.com
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kralizec and I have established a Thanksgiving truce and I'm not going to be the one to break it, regardless of any instigation. May you and yours also enjoy the holiday.

Take note Israel and Hamas -- that is how it's done.

I'm outta here.

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:44 | 3003178 MSimon
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Mentioning "Jew" on ZH is just like mentioning "dope" in a gathering of Republicans. Fun to watch too.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:35 | 3002947 Titus Flavius C...
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Wow.

 

'not an Arab' - that's pretty fucked up, right there.

 

I'm trying not to see black helicopters everywhere, but I begin to suspect that most of the media is 'controlled' at least in some loose/de facto sense.   Too much of the same phrasing and narrative spin - too few original insights. 

 

And no one ever talks about the gas pipelines we don't want Iran running through Syria at the expense of the petrodollar and Israel.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:48 | 3002971 whstlblwr
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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:53 | 3003008 Dugald
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Nutter takes knife and axe to gunfight, guards fill air with lead, attacker unharmed and taken into custody, MSM keeps attacker's identity secret...a first for MSM

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:46 | 3002487 walküre
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Southern Baptists and Evangelicals better pray that their God is really Jewish.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:21 | 3002649 earnyermoney
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pivot to SE Asia? LOL Barry's not kissing anyone's ass. According to the "Old Gray Whore", Barry thinks he has leverage over BN and intends to use it with disasterous consequences.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:50 | 3002795 Titus Flavius C...
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Doubtful.

 

I'm sure Obama knows all too well how deeply embedded the Zionist tick is in government - especially intelligence, foreign affairs and finance.

 

By 'Zionist' I mean Israel First chickehawk pukes - often but not always Jewish, always significantly dumber than they believe they are.

 

www.ifamericansknew.org

 

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:10 | 3002346 evolutionx
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Israel rejects unilateral Gaza truce
    The inner security cabinet of nine ministers headed by the Israeli prime minister ended a long meeting Tuesday with a decision to reject proposals for a unilateral ceasefire. The UN secretary Ban Ki-moon returned to Israel from Cairo with a report for Binyamin Netanyahu.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:10 | 3002347 tmosley
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A blockade is an act of war.  How easily people forget this simple fact when it is applied against those oppressed by our "friends".

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:32 | 3002424 EscapeKey
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That's terrorist talk right there!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:39 | 3002451 CrockettAlmanac.com
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WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:49 | 3002500 EscapeKey
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DEBT IS PROSPERITY

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:56 | 3002517 CrockettAlmanac.com
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OBAMA IS ANTI-WAR

ROMNEY IS ELECTABLE

RON PAUL IS NUTS

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:23 | 3002659 Poetic injustice
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Drone strikes in neutral countries are also act of war.
And attack of ships in neutral waters.
Covert ops to produce a civil war is also considered an act of war, no?

 

But hey, Israel has a splendid record. Right after WW2 they killed a lot of people they considered pro-Nazi without needing court. And some of them were acquitted by courts in other countries.

So what are few more arab deaths for great Israelis.
They care more about pets scared of rocket attacks anyway:
http://i.imgur.com/2qOyI.jpg

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:13 | 3002348 BLOTTO
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Not for long.

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They created and manufactured these ever present 'terrorist threats'...Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Al Qaeda...etc...

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Israel does not want peace...and when I mean Israel - i mean the cabbalist elite occulists that have inflitrated that nation...

...like they have inflitrated ALL nations.

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No country is safe from 'them.'

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:24 | 3002401 thorgodofthunder
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Israel has a right to defend itself from attack.  That is all it is doing.  Why doesn't Egypt opens it's border with Gaza? 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:29 | 3002414 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Why doesn't Europe open it's door to you? My ancestors lived in your house in 70 AD and I want it back.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:35 | 3002418 BLOTTO
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Its all smoke and mirrors.

We are being *hoodwinked* (again) into thinking what the controlled MSM is telling us...when its the same old thing going on for centuries...bloodlines (Royals are every single day in the media) in control that think its their divine right to rule over us commoners.

The calendar is ruling us for fuck sakes. Merry Christmas Santa Claus...the Easter bunny is on its way after Halloween to give the Groundhog something for Mothers and Fathers Day on the new year when you fall back and spring forward in time...wash rinse, repeat. No questions asked.

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Whatever they are telling us is a fabrication, perverision...manpulation of the truth.

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The truth is - we would be totally shocked.

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Its not that you think something is strange happenning on this planet...but rather, something strange IS happenning more then you think.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:12 | 3002871 Titus Flavius C...
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Should you wish to discover wisdom:  Read the news and the blogs and then go on infowars and figure out which stories Alex Jones seems to be ignoring.

 

The stories he ignores are the stories to focus on.

 

As for salvation - it will come from the Celts, who are the True Chosen.   They will save us from the Babylonian Talmud and from yogurt that makes you shit real good.

 

 

Wolverines!!!!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:01 | 3003049 Dugald
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You are right there bro....you forgot the tooth fairy.....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:34 | 3002437 downwiththebanks
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Stealing land because the UN told you to do so is not "defensive".

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:58 | 3002537 Canucklehead
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Remember Nabi Musa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabi_Musa

God chose Moses.  God gave the lands of Judea to the Jews.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:02 | 3002556 downwiththebanks
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Boo, says the Sky-Gobln.  Meanwhile, steal that land whiteboy.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:26 | 3002678 Canucklehead
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Your life must be tough.  You have my condolences.  Do you have a tip jar somewhere that I could hit?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:02 | 3002557 john39
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in a kindergarten view of reality, that might be a point worth considering.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:10 | 3002581 akak
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But the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster (meatballs be upon him) gave Greenland to me, I being his "chosen pasta", yet the Danish and Inuit refuse to vacate. 
I declare Holy War against the anti-Pastafarian infidels!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:25 | 3002674 fuu
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May his midgets be praised.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:27 | 3002682 Canucklehead
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With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:33 | 3002711 akak
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With fiends like you, who needs enemas?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:36 | 3002727 Canucklehead
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That line plays well to the IQ 72 crowd...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:42 | 3002751 akak
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As does the fearmongering of the eternal-damnation-promising sociopathic literature of mass-murdering desert tribes following the whispered words (audible only to the self-proclaimed select few) of an invisible mythological sky demon who demands the ethnic cleansing of an entire region to make a home for his (again self-declared) "chosen people".

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:49 | 3002786 Canucklehead
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... So I take it you are not Muslim?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:53 | 3002813 Bay of Pigs
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With AIPAC operatives like you, we dont need the gold trolls here at ZH.

You can do double shifts.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:13 | 3002877 Canucklehead
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It takes one to know one.  Now please hit the red triangle and complete your life's mission.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:09 | 3003075 Dugald
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It all sounds jolly interesting if not actual fun....how does one become a "chosen one" is it like being a Mason with funny handshakes and drinks in the south,  or is it more to do with mutulated dicks and funny hats...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:37 | 3002731 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

With fiends like you, who needs enemas?

...and Hasbarium enemas at that.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:48 | 3002781 Canucklehead
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Please be sure to hit the red triangle before you are done.

Thank you for your time and interest in this matter.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:59 | 3002827 akak
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Please feel free to remove the letters "Ca" from your name tag now.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:12 | 3002868 Canucklehead
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... What a superficial thought.  How would that change things in any meangingful way?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:44 | 3002922 akak
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I can presume, then, that being able to recognize superficiality, and being unable to refrain from indulging in it, are not mutually exclusive?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:46 | 3002988 Canucklehead
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... So true a statement I have never heard...

I must admit I marvel at the choice of your name, as it reminds me of my dog when it feasts too much.  That thought mixed with your cogent and witty responses brings an improbable smile to my face.

Unfortunately I haven't had much opportunity to smile while reading your comments.  You need to bring your A game.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:12 | 3003087 Dugald
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Mutually interchangeable....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:45 | 3002774 jomama
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what part of: 'zionism is a secular movement' do you still not understand?!!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:49 | 3002790 downwiththebanks
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All of it, actually!  Especially since it's nonsense.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:18 | 3002890 Titus Flavius C...
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No - it isn't.

 

It's tribalism with a ethnoreligious substrate.

 

Are you serious here - or just a misguided hasbara troll?

 

 

 One of the most profoundly important dimensions of traditional Judaism (one that has had enormous repercussions for Jewish relations throughout history with their non-Jewish neighbors) is its injunction to fellow members that Jews must -- conceptually, and through most of history, physically -- live “apart,” “separate,” distinct from other human beings. Jewish self-conception, from its early days, was antithetical and antagonistic to other peoples. "Separation of Israel from the nations [non-Jews]," says Moshe Greenberg, "in order to be consecrated by God took the extreme form of condemning to death any who worshipped or tempted others to worship alien gods." [GREENBERG, p. 28]

       In later years, throughout the Jewish diaspora, this developed into the Jewish self-conception as a "nation apart" -- physically as well as conceptually distanced from all other peoples. "In their determined efforts to prevent assimilation and loss of identity as a small minority in the midst of a hostile majority," notes the Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion, "the rabbis deliberately set up barriers for the explicit purpose of preventing social interaction with gentiles [non-Jews], and decrees were enacted to erect barriers against this danger. The partaking of meals with gentiles was forbidden ... food cooked by gentiles was banned." [WERBLOWSKY, p. 269]  "The underside to this sense of chosenness [per the Chosen People idea]," says Rabbi Isar Schorsch, "is an inclination to dichotomize the world between 'them' and 'us. Categories of people are set apart by the fact that God has assigned them far fewer mitzvot [commandemnts] to keep. Three of those 100 blessings [Orthodox Jews must recite each day] praise God for 'not having made me a gentile,' 'for not having made me a woman,' and 'for not having made me a slave.'" [SCHORSCH, I., 4-30-99] Even in a 1988 survey, "more than a third of Reform rabbis -- traditionally the most 'integrated' and 'outreaching' of the major Jewish denominations -- endorsed the proposition that 'ideally, one ought not to have any contact with non-Jews.'" [NOVICK, P., 1999, p. 181]        Such a "nation apart" admonition is part of classical Jewish religious (and related to secular Zionist) belief to the present day. Jewish author Alfred Jospe notes that            “when a male Jew is called to the Torah, he recites the traditional            blessing, asher bahar banu mi’kol ha’amim, praising God ‘who           has chosen us from among all other nations.’ When Jews recite their           daily morning prayer they say the benediction, she’lo assani goy,           thanking God ‘that he has not made [us] gentiles.’ When they           pronounce the benediction over the Sabbath [Saturday] wine, they           declare that God has chosen and sanctified Jews from all other           peoples in the same way which he has distinguished between Sabbath           and weekday. When Jews make Havdalah on Saturday night, they           recite the traditional ha-mavdil, glorifying God for setting Jews apart           from all other peoples just as He set apart the sacred from the profane           and light from darkness.” [JOSPE, p. 10-11]

     "Unlike many religions," notes Steven Silbiger,

     "Judaism is more than simply a belief system that anyone can adopt. To
      become Jewish means enlisting in a tribe. The relationship or covenant
      is between God and the Jewish people, rather than between God and
      individual Jews. Judaism is a religion with a strong ancestral component."
       [SILBIGER, S., 2000, p. 11]

         In the ancient Greek and Roman worlds people were polytheists, and relatively tolerant of each other’s theology. Judaism, however, was expressed throughout their diaspora as an elitist, confrontational faith, engendering ill will everywhere. "It was not sensible," says Jasper Griffin, "nor was it good manners [in the ancient world] to allege that other peoples' gods did not exist. Only a madman makes fun of other peoples' religious practices, says the historian Herodutus in the fifth century BCE ... The response of the Jews [to other religions] was felt to be shocking and uncouth, as well as dangerous for everybody." Jewish rejection of the religions and communities in which they lived "placed an inseparable barrier between them and full acceptance into the classical world; as later on, even more acutely, it did with Christians." [GRIFFIN, p. 58]   http://holywar.org/jewishtr/02hos.htm   worth a read.
Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:37 | 3002958 Titus Flavius C...
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Remember to wipe from front to back, Madam.

 

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/sci_list.html

 

 

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 00:31 | 3003946 BLOTTO
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Moses was Egyptian. 

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Dont you remember the story of an infant floating in the reeds and found by Eygptian royality?

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He grew up to be Egyptian.

 

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:31 | 3002931 thorgodofthunder
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Hey Down and Out,

 

Can I get the land & property back that Adolf stole from my family in Poland?  Check please.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:51 | 3002806 Titus Flavius C...
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You mean the Giant Space Lizards?

 

Why not be a man and just come out and fucking say the Giant fucking Space Lizards??

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:13 | 3002351 The Master
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There will be no ceasefire as long as the blockade is in place.  This is retarded.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:34 | 3002431 downwiththebanks
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Don't doubt the ability of Hamas negotiators to sell out the Palestinian Resistance and the Palestinian people.  That's why they're in power.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:12 | 3002355 adr
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and who has had advance knowledge of each cease fire and attack to profit off the bullshit oil trade?

If you levered up enough you could have made more money in the past week than knowing about 9/11.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:12 | 3002359 Bay of Pigs
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YAY! Its over!

Lets go shopping...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:11 | 3002597 Renewable Life
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Bingo!!!!!

No war over black friday, some may chuckle at this, but it's no joke, this whole global charade of over consumption and leveraged debt, is completely built on this fake holidays! It starts with valentines day and ends on new years eve! If every American agreed, to just for one holiday Season, buy all their gifts on eBay and Craigslist from individuals and more importantly, put the emphasis of the holiday season on being with family, charity, and celebrating that your healthy and alive another year, we could collapse this globalist corporate machine in three months!!

But unfortunately that won't happen, until this sickness reached epic levels of war, famine, and human suffering not seen yet in modern history!! We the consumers of this planet are so conditioned and brainwashed from birth at the point, to be nothing more then consuming vehicles for the producers, we don't know anything else, can't think of anything else, can't imagine anything else, and therefore can't change our behavior, even if we wanted too!!!

The only thing left to do at this point is, as INDIVDUALS we must secede from the system! Stop thinking politics and the constitution will save you and stop wasting all your energy of this manufactured theatre of red state, blue state, two party fantasy, and begin freeing yourself from the shackles of the globalist corporate system and become debt free, energy and food self sufficient, and prepared with as much gold, silver, and productive land as you can buy without getting a bank involved!! Get out of the stock market, 401 k bullshit, and every other wall street scheme, and take back control of your life! Use the banks as minimal as possible and watch as you feel and actually become more free then you've ever felt or thought possible as the years go by!!! It may not seem possible, but it is, I'm on year four of my own transformation, and I've never had more wealth, been happier, or felt more free then I do today!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:23 | 3002397 Seasmoke
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Well its a day too late for the people killed last night

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:40 | 3002438 Volaille de Bresse
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BOOOO!

Who's the head of the IDF? Norman Schwarzkopf? Why stop now when you can destroy the cockroaches that plague your daily life?

 

Or... the Isrealis are running out of ammo and they expect another shipment of "goodies" sent by Santa-Obama!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:48 | 3002495 walküre
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too bad the "roaches" can crawl into Israel and bomb buses in the center of the cities

fuck you

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:56 | 3002526 Canucklehead
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The name of the game is to separate the wheat from the chaff.  There are good muslims and there are bad muslims.  The bad muslims hold power and do not want to compromise as they see any compromise as the end of their seat at the head of the table.

The good muslims want the fruits of the Arab Spring.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:19 | 3002892 Titus Flavius C...
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if you think like you write you're likely an incorrigible moron.

 

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:40 | 3002456 Jake88
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Seems to be rumor at this point. Not much real news on this.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:55 | 3002514 downwiththebanks
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Agreed.  No real word on the Palestinian side. . .  The Qassam Brigades haven't said a word on their twitter feed.  The Ma'an News story quotes nobody representing the Palestinian people, and the Hizbollah website has nothing of it on their newswire.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:54 | 3002816 downwiththebanks
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Here's the most concrete statement I can find on the Palestinian side.  It comes from Reuters and runs in Al-Ahram, the Egyptian paper:

Israel and the Gaza’s Hamas agreed on Wednesday to a ceasefire deal, said a Palestinian official with knowledge of Egyptian mediation between the two sides.

The official declined to be named or to give further information.

There was no immediate official confirmation of the news, which came on the eighth day of intensive Israeli fire on the Gaza Strip and militant rocket attacks out of the Palestinian territory.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:42 | 3002467 TNTARG
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Last night french banks have blocked out all bank accounts of firms which trade with Iran (import-export). After six years of embargo (seize?), all restriction availables have been imposed, even faster and with more violence that this sanctions were made operatives with Saddam's Irak at the time. Israel seems to want blood.

We've been told they wanted WWIII. Perhaps it's just started.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:47 | 3002492 SheepDog-One
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'Our race is the Master Race, we are divine gods on this planet, we are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and cattle at best. Other races are considered human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled with an iron rod over them, they will lick our feet and serve us as slaves'.

Not Hitler or someone from Ze 3rd Reich.....but Monachem Begin, Israeli PM in a speech to the Knesset.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:40 | 3002963 resurger
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is he dead?

 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:49 | 3002494 Joebloinvestor
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Like this is gonna last very long.

Is Hillary gonna get her Noble now?

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