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Tel Aviv Bus Explosion Sends Oil To Session Highs

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Update: Israel launches massive airstrikes on Gaza after Tel Aviv bombing (RT). As expected

So much for hopes of a ceasefire as day 8 of of Operation Pillar of Defense begins. Around midday local time, an explosion took place in a bus in Tel Aviv near the military headquarters. As Jerusalem Post reports, "a total of 16 people were injured in a terror attack in central Tel Aviv on Wednesday, according to a spokesperson from the city's Ichilov Hospital. One person was severely injured, one moderately and one light to moderately. The remainder of the casualties were light or suffering shock. None were in a life threatening condition, though two were already in surgery, the hospital spokesperson said." According to witnesses a man climbed in the bus and threw a bomb on board. The explosion has sent Brent to its session highs over $111, and with Hilary Clinton briefly on location, it appears that Israel may well escalate to the next phase of the conflict which would be a land invasion.

Perhaps making certain of this was a tweet by the Alqassam Brigades, which has made a serious escalation virtually inevitable:

Finally, proving that the world has gone totally insane, the rise in crude is interpreted by correlation algos as a risk on signal sending ES and EURUSD both to their session highs and wiping out all losses from last night's historic collapse in talks over Greece.

And some more from the FT:

A bomb explosion on a bus in central Tel Aviv threatened to derail stuttering moves towards an end to violence in Gaza on Wednesday, sending oil prices sharply higher.


Crude prices rose $1 a barrel to $111 after Israeli media reported 10 people were injured in the bus bombing, which happened near the ministry of defence in Tel Aviv at about midday local time.


It was the first such attack in Israel since the conflict began, and the first in the city since 2006.


Media in Gaza reported celebratory gunfire in the enclave after people heard news of the explosion.


The conflict between Israel and the Islamist Hamas movement that controls the Gaza Strip entered its eighth day with intense diplomatic activity continuing in efforts to broker a ceasefire.


Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, arrived in the region and called on Israel and Hamas to “de-escalate” the hostilities.


She assured Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, of Washington’s “rock-solid” support for Israel’s right to defend itself but called for a “durable outcome” to the crisis, which has claimed the lives of at least 134 Palestinians and five Israelis.


“It is essential to de-escalate the situation in Gaza,” she said. “The rocket attacks from terrorist organisations inside Gaza on Israeli cities and towns must end and a broader calm restored.”


The Israeli leader said he, too, preferred a diplomatic solution to the conflict but also warned that Israel was ready to take “whatever action is necessary” to halt rocket fire from Gaza on Israel.


Israel is opposed to a ceasefire that would merely give Hamas time to rearm.


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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:45 | 3001442 bogbrush
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How did that one get through?!?!?!?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:47 | 3001445 slaughterer
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ES moved up on Merkel conciliatory muttering on Greece.  No A-List EZ politico wants direct contact with Greek decision.  B-List sub-alterns will approve it though.  

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:53 | 3001452 fonzannoon
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What is there to even discuss on Greece? They are like the brother in law that you give a few bucks to every once in a while so they can (barely) exist and not have to move into your basement. Why is it still news?


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:59 | 3001461 markmotive
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Lots of action starting to develop in the Middle East.

Look back over 24mths....we're looking at revolutions, threats, cross-border attacks.

Even Iran and the US have reportedly had small skirmishes.

WWIII here we come...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:45 | 3001541 kridkrid
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Baked in. It's been baked in ever since we decided credit money was a good idea.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:37 | 3001616 SWRichmond
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Tel Aviv Bus Explosion Sends Oil To Session Highs

cui bono?  Why don't people see that we are seen as fodder, and that's all?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:01 | 3001672's picture




The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[2] The operation caused no casualties, except for those members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.



The operation ultimately became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon was forced to resign as a consequence of the incident. Before Lavon's resignation, the incident had been euphemistically referred to in Israel as the "Unfortunate Affair" or "The Bad Business" (Hebrew: ???? ????‎, HaEsek HaBish). After Israel publicly denied any involvement in the incident for 51 years, the surviving agents were officially honored in 2005 by being awarded certificates of appreciation by Israeli President Moshe Katzav.[3]

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:15 | 3001714 SamAdams
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Mossad Checklist:

  1. Obtain explosives from nearby military outpost
  2. Throw explosives into unoccupied bus to minimize citizen casualties
  3. Quicly return to military outpost so "terrorist" is not apprehended
  4. Launch massive airstrike before completing "investigation"
  5. Send approved "Terrorist" story to approved news outlets

I guess this proves it, the Jews really do have superior intelligence....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:30 | 3001965 whstlblwr
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conducted in Egypt, assholes.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:37 | 3001985's picture

Zionist perfidy has been turned against the Jews in the past as they will tell you themselves:


The Brutal Zionist Role in the Holocaust



The price of Zionism:



1. Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative."



2. As late as 1943, while the Jews of Europe were being exterminated in their millions, the U.S. Congress proposed to set up a commission to "study" the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.



This is the same Rabbi Wise who, in 1938, in his capacity as leader of the American Jewish Congress, wrote a letter in which he opposed any change in U.S. immigration laws which would enable Jews to find refuge. He stated:


"It may interest you to know that some weeks ago the representatives of all the leading Jewish organizations met in conference ... It was decided that no Jewish organization would, at this time, sponsor a bill which would in any way alter the immigration laws."



3."One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland" -- Izaak Greenbaum



Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:03 | 3002085 whstlblwr
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I'm not the semitic scholar that you seem to be, LOL. And none of your examples show that the Israel military would conduct false flags in Israel. In this case it looks like Hamas didn't want a cease fire and blew up a bus of innocent people. That is evil.

Keep up with your scholarship and research the etymology of Palestinians for their claims on land.

It seem their leaders like to start fights to divert attention from their poor leadership skills.

"al-Masri (the Egyptian,), al-Djazair (the Algerian), el-Mughrabi (the Moroccan), al-Yamani (the Yemenite) and even al-Afghani are so common among those claiming to be "Palestinians."

Today's Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: "Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others." (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69).

There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. -Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212."

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:09 | 3002104's picture



In this case it looks like Hamas didn't want a cease fire and blew up a bus of innocent people. That is evil.


In reports I've read even the Israelis haven't substantiated that claim. Where is your documentation? And what do you think about the Israeli attack on the US embassy yesterday? Haven't seen that on the TV but if it had been done by an Arab you can bet it would run 24/7.



Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:11 | 3002124 downwiththebanks
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Fatah has claimed responsibility and Hamas has applauded them for the 'attack'.  Who cares about the evidence, though!?  To a Zionist, such things--evidence--are minor obstacles.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:21 | 3002150's picture

Thanks for the info. That is interesting. Although it doesn't justify further attacks on Gaza any more than yesterday's Israeli attack on the US embassy would justify American bombing of the people of Tel Aviv.


Hamas' mortal enemy, Fatah—the group Hamas violently overthrew in Gaza in 2007—has claimed responsibility for the attack.


Note that it's the anti-Zionist contigent at ZH which is willing to honestly document events regardless of the effect on the conversation. A respect for honesty from all parties would be a good first step on the road to respect for all human life.





Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:34 | 3002216 whstlblwr
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You accused Israel military of blowing up the bus in TelAviv that is hardly honest documentation. I haven't seen any honest comments from you on ugly role of Palestinians in the current conflict. And there is enough blame to go around to both nations.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:38 | 3002231 downwiththebanks
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Perhaps you can explain why, or how, the bus driver kept driving after the attack, as was reported by the pro-Apartheid Jerusalem Post.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:06 | 3002325 Matt
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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 23:44 | 3003899 mjcOH1
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"Perhaps you can explain why, or how, the bus driver kept driving after the attack, as was reported by the pro-Apartheid Jerusalem Post."


Why - The bomb was thrown onto the bus.   He had the good sense to drive away from the terrorist while he could.

How - Cummins turbo-diesel?   Uh-rah!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:50 | 3002426's picture


You accused Israel military of blowing up the bus in TelAviv that is hardly honest documentation.


I did no such thing. Please cite the quote. You're a liar if you can't do so.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:50 | 3002116 downwiththebanks
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The UN told Zionists in 1947 that they had the right to ethnically cleanse Palestine and impose an Apartheid, Whites-Only state under occupation.

You cannot confront this fact, so you obvfuscate.  Apartheid Israel exists through UN charity and Uncle Sam's welfare checks.  No "State" could be more fictitious.

Or more illusory.   Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock--the end is nearing for this 55 year blot on the human race.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:30 | 3003130 SWRichmond
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Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock--the end is nearing for this 55 year blot on the human race.

I believe you are correct.  The facts are too hard to hide.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:39 | 3001619 Sudden Debt
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Today I read this article about the bus on our local news site.

Same article but with 1 big difference...

Under the article there was a facebook link...



I clicked the like button also :)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:05 | 3002094 whstlblwr
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you're disgusting. I feel sorry for your family that you are covered in hate.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:48 | 3001447 insanelysane
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Some one will put out "Cease fire agreed to" for the algos when they have their accounts ready.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:50 | 3001450 Winston Churchill
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How convenient.

Mossad doesn't mind killing a few'chosen' now and again.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:00 | 3001463 danepol
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Evidently you're not one of them.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:17 | 3001915 DaveyJones
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that's the spirit

I'm starting to get confused who the parents and who the children are. I was raised catholic, am married into a jewish family. live amongst a bunch of hindus and have a daughter dating a second generation palestinian. Like the young people occupying wall street, how come our children, remember those people, the ones that are utterly screwed by their elders, the ones literally shaking in fear in Gaza and southern Israel, how come they are the only ones saying mature things as this new pathetic chapter unfolds and the murderous politicians and businessmen move in for the kill? Things like why is violence always the solution, why does the world just sit there and watch, why does the US only take one side when both sides are killing, if both people lived there then both people should have some right to live there and on and on. When they finally turn on us, I will welcome the day.         

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:20 | 3001927's picture



I was raised catholic, am married into a jewish family. live amongst a bunch of hindus and have a daughter dating a second generation palestinian.


You folks must be on holiday pretty much all the time what with one tradition or another. Sounds like fun. L'Chaim!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:23 | 3001943 DaveyJones
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yes, I only did it for the booze

and given the state of the world, it was a cozy fit

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:05 | 3001468 Aquarius
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Did they scramble the air strike force just before the bomb went off? er, as usual?

Nothing better than a good killing night, just ask Obama, Netanyahu's student.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:13 | 3001484 Urban Redneck
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Hamas leadership also doesn't mind killing their own to further their ambitions.

Ditto for the CIA.

The RPF was willing to sacrifice countless Tutsis in Rwanda in order to achieve political control.

Hell, how much sympathy was garnered by the allied cause when Churchill sacrificed Coventry to protect intelligence sources?

Even if what you allege is true, it's simply par for the course in modern warfare. 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:54 | 3001550 kridkrid
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People are so naive if they don't believe and accept this. "the ends justify the means"... This isn't that hard of a hurdle to cover to be able to justify almost any activity. Say, for example, one wanted to rewrite American Foreign policy regarding "preemptive war". What would constitute a "Pearl Harbor moment" significant enough to rewrite both foreign AND domestic policy? Might it be worth 3000 lives? These people don't think like the rest of us. They are wired differently. Our inability to grasp that simple fact provides the cover that they need to do such things.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:29 | 3001966 DaveyJones
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that is the most tangible abstraction I've ever heard

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:19 | 3001583 Boeing Boy
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Add pear harbour to the list

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:43 | 3001533 Dugald
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The Israeli leader said he, too, preferred a diplomatic solution to the conflict but also warned that Israel was ready to take “whatever action is necessary” to halt rocket fire from Gaza on Israel.

He must have been laughing up his sleeve with that load of puffery, knowing full well Hamas will not agree to a ceasefire, if it should, be sure any document will be signed in dissapearing ink....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:05 | 3001685's picture



Hamas will not agree to a ceasefire


It was the other way around:


Israeli Ambassador Says There Is No Ceasefire With Hamas



According to a report in Reuters early Tuesday afternoon, Hamas claimed it reached an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire agreement with Israel and that the truce would be declared in a matter of hours (at 2:00 pm ET) and go into effect at 5:oo pm ET.  Israel, however is denying it has agreed to a ceasefire and that talks are still underway.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:48 | 3001818 Hi Ho Silver
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"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."

- Hadith 5.59.369



Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:57 | 3001854's picture




Deuteronomy 20:16-18

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

16 Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 But you shall [a]utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you, 18 so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the Lord your God.




Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:45 | 3001973 downwiththebanks
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Aren't hate-filled fairy tales grand?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:34 | 3001979 DaveyJones
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funny how you can find that crap in any religious text. It's almost as if... men wrote it 

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:46 | 3002773 Hi Ho Silver
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I live according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ under a new covenant.

Thank you very much.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:20 | 3001930 Zeff
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Source? Context? Dont post any hadith without its context friend. Being illiterate in some disciplines is one thing, trying to promote your mediocre understanding is another.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:47 | 3001802 downwiththebanks
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The Palestinian Resistance is perfectly willing (too much so, in my view--but that's from someone outside Gaza) to agree to a cease-fire, but Apartheid Israel refuses to agree to the condition of ending their medieval siege on a prison colony.

So the genocidal Land-Grabbers bomb, bomb away from 25,000 feet--killing tons of children and grandmothers, but doing nothing to stop the bottle rocket attacks.

In effect, Apartheid Israel is procrastinating, throwing a gigantic temper-trantrum.  They want to keep killing people in wheelchairs, and they know an invasion of Gaza will result in yet another humiliating defeat.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:51 | 3001451 crash_davis
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It was Iranian bombers for sure

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:58 | 3001456 Aquarius
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I've seen this movie before.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:36 | 3001983 DaveyJones
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that's not butter on your popcorn

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:58 | 3001457 crash_davis
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It would be more accurate to say that greece is like the brother in law who owes money to the mob. He keeps borrowing from you and paying off his debt to stay alive a little while longer, but each day his life gets a little shittier.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:07 | 3001469 Ghordius
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it would be even more accurate to remind everybody that the Squid helped to cook the Greek books with derivative instruments

so if it is the "mob", then the "brother in law" lied to the "mob" in order to loan more

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:27 | 3001494 GetZeeGold
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Squid helped to cook the Greek books with derivative instruments


They begged them for it......and now they're the bitch? Dude, when you're out money it's either go derviatives.....or go home. Turns out they didn't feel like going home.


In hindsight....maybe they should have.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:38 | 3001525 Ghordius
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They (meaning the Greek gov) did not beg them

Nevertheless there was a lot of US pressure behind it, including all the Bush II's promises to enlarge the EU to Turkey and similar things that were thankfully just too much to let be

nevertheless, who is the "mob" here? those who have been left to pick the tab and clean up the mess after the Squid made a bundle? you tell me

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:41 | 3001528 GetZeeGold
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So just pay it back and be done with it already.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:47 | 3001817 downwiththebanks
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Or tell Goldman Sachs to fuck themselves and be done with it already.  Why in the world would any sovereign nation honor those debts?  

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:43 | 3001992 DaveyJones
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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:58 | 3001458 crash_davis
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It would be more accurate to say that greece is like the brother in law who owes money to the mob. He keeps borrowing from you and paying off his debt to stay alive a little while longer, but each day his life gets a little shittier.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:00 | 3002074 rufusbird
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Well, now the mob wants the relatives to co sign for the loan...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 07:59 | 3001459 cossack55
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So, since we are now confirmed to be living INSIDE the asylum, a nuke blast in Jerusasalem would send the DOW over 14,000?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:01 | 3001465 Sheeple Shepard
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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:54 | 3001649 Zero Govt
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Yes, tediously predictable Israel going full-retard deranged violent thug criminal scum.

that Govt there has no manners ...or brain ...ere we go again, senseless murder and mayhem wrapped up as a State crusade

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:07 | 3001471 youngman
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When I heard Hamas had a ceasefire....I laughed...that either means they need to restock and resupply...or they want to set you up...remember it is OK for a muslim to lie to an infidel.....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:31 | 3001601 DMac
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I'll see your Muslim liars and raise you a Kol Nidre

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:46 | 3001609 overmedicatedun...
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Ms Clinton finally got done with her hang nail surgery in Africa and is now in the ME, why?? to broker a deal for Israel to recognize Gay Lesbos rights. I bet you thought it was the new fighting ..get real.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:49 | 3001825 downwiththebanks
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When you heard Hamas had a cease-fire, you heard incorrectly.

Apartheid Israel used it as a pretext to kill more babies and old people.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:08 | 3001473 koaj
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does right to defend herself include the US pledging billions of dollars each eyear to arm and train Mossad and the IDF?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:00 | 3001560 Sanksion
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I thought the Mossad was already in charge of the US.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:20 | 3001587 tocointhephrase
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Bingo, that shit right there!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:08 | 3001475 Sheeple Shepard
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""She(Hilary Clinton) assured Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, of Washington’s “rock-solid” support for Israel’s right to defend itself"".

Defend itself? With gun-boats, F-16's and Predator drones against what look to me like bottle rockets?
Insert George Orwell quote here>>>>>>>

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:18 | 3001493 gonetogalt
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Those 'bottle rockets' are based on the Russian design 122 mm that I lived under bombardment by for 25 months in '67-'68,'69.  I'm curious what your reaction would be if your neighborhood, family, and friends were subject to random hits from several thousand launches a year, year after year?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:25 | 3001500 Lord Koos
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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:37 | 3001521 Sheeple Shepard
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I wouldn't move to country and impose my will on a indigenous peoples because a book told me it was mine, so I cant answer that question fairly.
I don't take any pleasure from the fact that you experienced that though, how would you feel if instead of rockets, it was F-16's, gun-boats and Predator drones?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:59 | 3001556 kralizec
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A book.  Hilarious.

But Jews must give a damn about a vile violent race of people expelled from every other Muslim nation in the region?

Pali's are trash even to other Muslims, don't let the MFM meme fool you, just more takiyya blowing up your skirt!  Dance monkey, dance!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:54 | 3001838 downwiththebanks
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Your invisible man in the sky did not sanction the theft of Palestine.  Rather, the UN did, by decree, in 1947.

You should be on your knees thanking the UN for the opportunity to kill grandmothers in wheelchairs from 25,000 feet.  That's a real holy act.

An act midwifed by the United Nations, not God:  Never Forget.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:27 | 3002683 kralizec
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Theft?  Where's the deed?  Yeah, Who's got the deed you're squating on there?  Chances are somebody else was on that land before you and has about as much claim...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:39 | 3001990 mick_richfield
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But Jews must give a damn about a vile violent race of people expelled from every other Muslim nation in the region?


I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:24 | 3002666 kralizec
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So, you saying you are sponsoring a Pali family into your home?  Or is force to be used as the benevolent lever?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:41 | 3001995 mick_richfield
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Also, I have heard people say precisely the same thing about Jews. 

"Look at all the countries they have been kicked out of!"

It is anti-semitic when they say it, and it is anti-semitic when you say it.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:29 | 3002694 kralizec
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Nice try, Jews were kicked out by non-Jews, Pali's were kicked out by fellow Muslims.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:33 | 3001606 tocointhephrase
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:19 | 3001726 Totentänzerlied
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**Netanyahu puts his own eyes out and says, "your move, Gandhi."**

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:33 | 3002706 kralizec
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A) That Indian non-violence BS only goes so far, and having a billion people helps

B) There were acts of violence of Indians against the British, not exactly the perfect bloodless revolutionary example

C) Comparing Pali's to Indian's...fracking hilarious!


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:27 | 3001597 Freewheelin Franklin
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I'm curious what your reaction would be if your neighborhood, family, and friends were subject to random hits


I moved out of the projects years ago and into the suburbs.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:51 | 3001832 downwiththebanks
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Why would you go steal someone's land only to get bombed?  That seems pretty dumb to me.

Meanwhile, you have nothing to say about the Apartheid system in Occupied Palestine, the medieval seige on the Gaza Strip, or the $5,000,000,000 in welfare checks Uncle Sam's broke ass sends to support ethnic cleansing every year.

Why is that?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:17 | 3001916 Overfed
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Ever read 1984?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:24 | 3001944 Zeff
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Im curious too for what would your reaction be if i come into your house take you and your friends your family by the throat and kick you out. They say when one side throws stones/rockets and the other side bombards missiles, drones and tank fires with f 16's and the one calling the truce blames the one throing stones, THERE IS A FUckiN problem with that world.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:07 | 3002102 The Continental
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Hey Shlomo!

One fricking rocket hits an unoccupied room in Tel aviv and Israel responds with massive retaliation using war planes and rockets hitting over 600 targets in Gaza and leveling entire blocks. And you have the temerity to whine about the poor Israelis. Fuck you and fuck Israel, the world's premier apartheid state born of terrorism and treachery. Kharma is a bitch; and Israel has run up quite a tab! There will never be peace in the ME as long as that shitty little state insists on squating on stolen land and practices ethnic cleansing on the local population, the true victims of Zionist aggression.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:20 | 3001496 danepol
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Perhaps you would prefer Israel to defend it's civilians with juicy, Jaffa oranges. Or return low-tech rockets aimed indiscrimanately at Gaza civlians.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:41 | 3001529 overmedicatedun...
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I am amazed (not ) that so many here fall off into the weeds to tell us of history or this evil act or that.

this is as simple as it gets: Muslem's win Jews die. peace

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:30 | 3001758's picture

I would prefer that America defend itself by no longer supplying arms to those who have attacked the US over and over again. Israeli attack on US Embassy:


  Axe attack at US embassy in Tel Aviv: Israeli police "A suspect came to the US embassy at 11:00 am (0900 GMT) with a knife and an axe and attacked a security guard," spokeswoman Luba Samri told AFP, saying the guard was injured in the leg, prompting his colleagues to open fire. "Other security guards fired shots at him," she said. "The attacker was not hurt," Samri said, adding that the assailant, who had been arrested, was "not an Arab." She did not give further details on his identity but said he was from the town of Bat Yam, just south of Tel Aviv.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:08 | 3001880 downwiththebanks
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When you're stealing land, that isn't self-defense.

Apartheid is not defensive, either.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:57 | 3002065 alien-IQ
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" Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. " - George Orwell

there you have it.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:13 | 3001476 danepol
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Hamas and its supporters represent the face of anti-semitic, anti-Western Islamic fanaticism: they are much more interested in celebrating death than life, and when they can't kill Jews and other infidels they turn to killing themselves. There will be peace in the Middle East only when the Arabs learn to love their children more that they hate the Jews (Golda Meir).  For all the liberal-leaning contributors to this site who cry for Gaza whilst remaining silent on atrocities committed against Jews, remember that you too would be among the first that Hamas would kill and maim if only they could.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:29 | 3001509 Sheeple Shepard
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The Palestinians didn't throw the first punch, their land has been stolen and they have been forced into living in a giant open prison. Injustice inflicted on ANY peoples should be condemned.

"....liberal-leaning contributors...."
"The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) indicates that the word liberal has long been in the English language with the meanings of "befitting free men, noble, generous" as in liberal arts; also with the meaning "free from restraint in speech or action", as in liberal with the purse, or liberal tongue, usually as a term of reproach but, beginning 1776–88 imbued with a more favorable sense by Edward Gibbon and others to mean "free from prejudice, tolerant."

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:08 | 3001695 Hi Ho Silver
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Current use of the term "liberal" in U.S. politics is a result of rebranding.

Much in the same way U.S. Democrats have re-writen history to call the original Republican Party the Democratic-Republican Party when obviously their ideals originate with and more closely match that of the Federalists.

There was never a Democratic-Republican Party. Never.

Just as there is nothing liberal about the Democratic Party when you consider the term's original meaning. The only free speech today's liberals support is that which agrees with their own.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:51 | 3001827's picture




Tell that to TJ.


The Democratic-Republican Party, was the political party organized by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in 1791. It stood in opposition to the Federalist Party, It ruled the USA from 1800 to 1825, during the First Party System. It split due to the 1824 presidential election into two parties: the Democratic Party and the short-lived National Republican Party (later succeeded by the Whig Party, many of whose adherents eventually founded the modern Republican Party).

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:33 | 3001607 NidStyles
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How are Palestinian and Arabs in general Anti-Semitic? Those people are Semitic.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:21 | 3001732 Totentänzerlied
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Is that you, MDB?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:56 | 3001851 downwiththebanks
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Hey dumbass--let's play a game.  We'll call it "Name the Semite"

Is a Semitic person:

1. A lame-ass white European AshkeNazi who came to Palestine in 1947 to steal land


2. An indigenous Semitic Arab person hailing from Palestine

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:48 | 3002022 Canucklehead
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There are no indigenous Semitic Arabs hailing from Palestine.  There are only Persian/Babylonian diaspora waiting to go back to Persia.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:13 | 3002058 downwiththebanks
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Ha ha ha.

Anthropological idiocy to change the subject.

Are you an AshkeNazi?  How do you feel about taking your instructions from the UN?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:10 | 3001478 israhole
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False flag, notice he didn't blow himself up, just threw it on the bus. Israel wasn't happy about talk of cease-fire, they have some ethnic cleansing to finish up.   They pull similar crap on American servicemen in all our wars in the Middle East, to keep us over there fighting for Israel's benefit.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:54 | 3001612 tocointhephrase
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 "to keep us over there fighting for Israel's benefit"

Assuming your a you dont want cheap of course are there for the benefit of your own scumbag interests and dont kid yourself.

You want a war with Iran, well your gonna get one!


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:57 | 3001665 skyeureye
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If this is a False Flag, staged bombing, there will be no road blocks and no hunt for the bomber.  If there is a bomber running around all the stops will be out to catch him.  So are there a lot of road blocks set up in the area, is everyone being searched?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:22 | 3001735 ozziindaus
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Really? False flags are usually followed up with false man hunts ala Osama

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:50 | 3001482 1fortheroad
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And the market rallies onward, ES 1400 by days end.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:16 | 3001483 Rock the Casbah
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The poor, trapped Palestianan children on that bus. Damn you Joooos!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:29 | 3001487 Aquarius
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And, we humans call all this shit, "civilization"?

I call it a sick joke.

I despise lies, liars, killers, genocidists, murderers, rapists, torturers, thieves, politicians, bureaucrats, economists, rascists, and sick propaganderists; I may have left some out, but I hope that you get my message.

"Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice": John Adams



Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:13 | 3001572 Ima anal sphincter
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I despise lies, liars, killers, genocidists, murderers, rapists, torturers, thieves, politicians, bureaucrats, economists, rascists, and sick propaganderists; I may have left some out, but I hope that you get my message.

And...... which group in this "contest" best fits the above?????

Fuck Israel!!!

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:17 | 3001491 skippy9
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MS Clinton,

Stay the hell out of Israel. Your Arab spring turned into a disaster and we're still wondering where you stood on Bengazi.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:26 | 3001503 Aquarius
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All Western political "leadership" (sic) needs to go to Israel to pledge allegiance andto  pay tribute. Netanyahu is now the DEAR LEADER of the Western World.


Because Bolshevikism aka Trotskyism aka Zionism, aka Israelism, is a toxic addictive cencerous disease.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:34 | 3001515 buzzsaw99
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Don't talk to our next president like that.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:43 | 3001536 Aquarius
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You must mean Fuhrer? of course.





Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:04 | 3001567 buzzsaw99
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better derr furor you know... ;)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:39 | 3001519 Disenchanted
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"We came, we saw, he died." *snort giggle laugh*


I'm glad I don't owe Hillary's Karmic debt...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:29 | 3001507 lolmao500
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Now if they could stop targeting civilians and take out the scum running the show... Bibi, Barak and Lieberman among others.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:57 | 3001853 my puppy for prez
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Have you discovered the concept of false flag yet?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:36 | 3001517 jonjon831983
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"Erdogan Calls Israel a Terror State, Sends Minister to Gaza"


"The Navy Ordered Three Huge Assault Ships To Turn Around And Go Straight To Israel"

"US Navy orders Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group to head to Israeli shores"

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:13 | 3001867 downwiththebanks
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Hey Erdogan:  how about not arming alCIAda and ratfucking in Syria.  Doing so only helps the "terror state" you allegedly oppose (but support).

Why don't you ship those weapons to the Palestinian Resistance.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:36 | 3001520 AmCockerSpaniel
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It's true that Hamas was behind 9-11. America knows it's enemies.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:40 | 3001526 Aquarius
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Lots of sarcasm...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 08:46 | 3001543 tok1
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wars good for business if it extend's its a form of stimuas (see WWI/WW2) ect....the ultimate stimulas..


IF there is a big expansion and oil goes higher it it could be the beginnig of exposing the zero rate policy..and large deficits at wrong time..

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:01 | 3001563 Duke of Con Dao
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where's my bratty, dirty mouthed 11 year old girl to put it on in perspective?

YouTube - Potty Mouthed 10 Yr Old Palestinian Girl Opens a Can of Kick Ass on Israeli Soldiers

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:18 | 3001723's picture

You do realize that that video has been doctored, don't you? It's beyond obvious.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:04 | 3001566 Duke of Con Dao
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is that a missile in your pocket or are you just happy to see us Ahmed? 

YouTube - Hamas Bar-B-Que - Israeli Style: Actual Footage of Drone Strike on Gaza 'Tough Guy' Ahmed Jabril (plus cool sound FX)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:10 | 3001571 Aquarius
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and the chief culprit is? WTF?

What is the vale of humanity?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:42 | 3001627 rsnoble
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Hillary wasn't close enough.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 09:46 | 3001634 Shizzmoney
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It's so frustrating to see attacks like this.  As much as I can't stand Israel for bombing the shit out of little kids, when Islamic militants do shit like this in retaliation, it kind of makes it harder for those to be in your corner.

I really just wish the fascination of our political class of Tatooine would just go away.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:53 | 3001840 my puppy for prez
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You are assuming that you know who did this.  Remember the following:

  • Curiously, Israel decided last night NOT to sign the cease fire treaty, saying it would "decide tomorrow".
  • Mossad pulls off false flags all the time, as their motto is:  "BY DECEPTION, THOU WILL DO WAR".
  • Extremists groups, such as Salafists, do jobs for Western/Israeli/Saudi groups to perpetrate false flags also.  An Israel official stated a couple of days ago that the first rockets fired into Israel were by Salafists, NOT Hamas.
  • Cui bono?  Such a major provocation doesn't benefit Hamas/Palestine in the least, but certainly benefits the irrefutable desire for war by Israel.
Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:23 | 3001739 nah
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oops, time for israel to secure the next 100 years of middle east policy by acting like a dominant player putting its military first


since its the only realistic option for a sane world

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:24 | 3001743 Fix It Again Timmy
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Hillary Clinton makes a SS camp commandant look like a cub scout - I'm sick of Clintons, Bushes, Kennedys, the whole rotten scummy bunch....

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:26 | 3001955 toomanyfakecons...
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So much for our supposed "victory" in WWII. The Nazis just migrate here and set up shop.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:35 | 3001780 downwiththebanks
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Anyone care to explain this quote, from the pro-Apartheid, Likudnik Jerusalem Post:

Driver of the targeted bus, Nachum Hertzi, 53, said he did not see anyone suspicious on the bus. After the explosion, he said he kept driving and noted the bus was rather empty.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:53 | 3001837 bogbrush
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How (or rather, when) did the front windscreen get smashed then?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:15 | 3001905 blunderdog
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     claimed the lives of at least 134 Palestinians and five Israelis.

 "Let's see now...that's 26.8 dead Palestinians killed per each 1 Israeli.  With numbers like this, the war will be over in very short order."  -- Bob McNamara

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:30 | 3001969 my puppy for prez
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Reflections on the 'Peace Process' Submitted by David Livingstone on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:05
How Israel and the Americans foster Islamic fundamentalism to stall peace with the Palestinians and other imperialistic objectives

The Israelis created Hamas.  But before we explore that question, let's start with a more important one.  Let's be honest with ourselves.  If we can look at the situation from beyond the confines of current political discourse, and look at the emperor without his "new" clothes, we all know that Israel does not want peace.  They want all of Palestine, and their belligerent settlement practices confirm that.

But the Israelis are taking advantage of the world's ignorance of the realities in Palestine, and posturing as being willing to talk "peace", only to actually stall that very peace process, so as not to interrupt the further colonization of Palestine.

So anything that can be offered as an excuse, will be.  The most convenient ploy, presented with the sycophantic assistance of the media, is that of "terrorism".

But the masses are naive, and fail to suspect the Machiavellian extremes that certain leaders will resort to to aggrandize their power.  This includes creating a false enemy, in this case, Hamas, whereby the right-wing leadership of the Israelis can point the finger to some "enemy" to blame otehr than themselves for supposedly stalling the process.

The use of Islamic terrorism for the political ends of Western nations is nothing new.  After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1924, the British and Americans stepped in to fill the vacuum by providing their own versions of "Islamic" leaders.  This started with the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was created through a grant from the British.  Under British sponsorship, the Brotherhood flourished, and today represents a sizeable and powerful force in the Islamic world, but most worryingly, as the institution behind almost every act of terror in the name of Islam. 

More correctly, the Brotherhood has been a tool shared my numerous Western intelligence agencies, starting with the Nazis, followed by the CIA, but also the Russians, French, Germans and Israelis.

Since the Truman and Eisenhower administrations, it has been a staple of foreign policy of the Cold War to exploit the Muslim Brotherhood to rally naive Muslims to reject "atheistic" Communism as an arch enemy of Islam.  Ever since, the Americans and others have been able to manage the Brotherhood like a rabid dog on a leash to keep the Communist threat at bay.

With the collapse of the Cold War however, the Brotherhood has been used for new imperial objectives, where they pose as the bogey man which the Americans can chase with their armies into the Middle East and Central Asia, starting with Iraq and Afghanistan.

But, as NSC official Sheila Haslin explained, in a testimony at Senate hearings into illegal fund-raising activities, US policy in the region was to "promote the independence of these oil-rich countries, to in essence break Russia's monopoly control over the transportation of oil from that region, and frankly, to promote Western energy security through diversity of supply."

Israel has also maintained a long-standing relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood, with its most recent manifestation being its participation in the founding of an offshoot organization, Hamas.

According to Robert Dreyfuss, who details the US' troubling relationship with Islamic fundamentalism, in "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam":

"And beginning in 1967 through the late 1980s, Israel helped the Muslim Brotherhood establish itself in the occupied territories.  It assisted Ahmed Yassin, the leader of the Brotherhood, in creating Hamas, betting that its Islamist character would weaken the PLO."

According to Charles Freeman, a veteran US diplomat and former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, "Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet [Isreali domestic intelligence agency], which had a feeling that they could use it to hem in the PLO."

In 1965, Yassin had been arrested by Egyptian intelligence, but after 1967, when Israel took control of the West Bank and Gaza, Yassin was freed.  In 1973, under approval from Shin Bet, Yassin founded the Islamic Center, and began to establish effective control over hundreds of mosques.  In 1976, Yassin created the Islamic Association, which membership branches throughout the Gaza Srip, and the movement grew.

Israel's formal support for Islamic fundamentalism came with the election of the right-wing Likud party.  In 1978, Begin's new government formally licensed Yassin's Islamic Association, as part of a strategy to undermine the power of the PLO.  One aspect of that strategy was the creation of the Village Leagues, over which Yassin and the Brotherhood exercised much influence.  Up to 200 members of the Leagues were given paramilitary training in Israel, among whom Shin Bet recruited many paid informers.

David Shipler, a former reporter for the New York Times, cites the Israeli military governor of Gaza as boasting that Israel expressly financed the fundamentalists against the PLO:

"Politically speaking, Islamic fundamentalists were sometimes regarded as useful to Israel, because they had conflicts with the secular supporters of the PLO.  Violence between the two groups erupted occasionally on West Bank university campuses, and the Israeli military governor of the Gaza Strip, Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, once told me how he had financed the Islamic movement as a counterweight to the PLO and the Communists.  'The Isreali Government gave me a budget and the military government gives to the mosques,' he said."

As Dreyfuss notes, "during the 1980s, the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza and the West Bank did not support resistance to the Israeli occupation.  Most of its energy went to fighting the PLO, especially its more left-wing factions, on university campuses."

US diplomats and CIA officials were aware that Israel was fostering Islamic fundamentalism among the Palestinians, but, as noted Martha Kessler, a senior analyst for the CIA, "we saw Israel cultivate Islam as a counterweight to Palestinian nationalism", but neither the CIA nor the State department did anything about it.

It was primarily Israel's far right, Begin, Shamir and Ariel Sharon who pursued this policy.  It is with them that we see the very cynical basis for the exploitation of Islamic fundamentalism in the region.  This was explained by Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad officer who left the agency and became a strong critic, and wrote two books about the service:

"Supporting the radical elements of Muslim fundamentalism sat well with Mossad's general plan for the region. An Arab world run by fundamentalists would not be party to any negotiations with the West, thus leaving Israel again as the only democratic, rational country in the region.  And if the Mossad could arrange for Hamas… to take over the Palestinian streets from the PLO, then the picture would be complete."

Very suspiciously, in 1983, Yassin was arrested by Israeli authorities, but although he was sentenced to 13 years in prison, he was released after only a year.  Then in 1986-7, Yassin founded Hamas.  According to Philip Wilcox, counterterrorism expert a former US ambassador who headed the US consulate in Jerusalem at the time, "there were persistent rumors that the Israeli secret service gave covert support to Hamas, because they were seen as a rival to the PLO."  Wilcox said the US officials in Jerusalem dealt "regularly and intensively" with Hamas.

After the Palestinian uprising of 1987, the PLO accused Hamas and Yassin of acting "with the direct support of reactionary Arab regimes… in collusion with the Israeli occupation."  Yasser Arafat complained to an Italian newspaper: "Hamas is a creation of Israel, which at the time of Prime Minister Shamir, gave them money and more than 700 institutions, among them schools, universities and mosques."  Arafat also maintained that Israeli prime minister Rabin admitted to him in the presence of Hosni Mubarak that Israel had supported Hamas.

Essentially, as analyst Ray Hannania pointed out, in "Sharon's Terror Child", published in Counterpunch, "undermining the peace process has always been the real target of Hamas and has played into the political ambitions of Likud.  Every time Israeli and Palestinian negotiators appeared ready to take a major step forward achieving peace, an act of Hamas terrorism has scuttled the peace process and pushed the two sides apart."

This pattern continued throughout the shifting developments of the stalled peace process.  In 2001, when the PLO secured a Hamas pledge to halt its terrorist attacks, then prime minister Ariel Sharon ordered the assassinations of one of their top officials.  As Alex Fishman commented in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Achronot, "whoever gave the green light to this act of liquidation knew full well that he was thereby shattering in one blow the gentlemen's agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority".

In "Hamas and the Transformation of Political Islam in Palestine", for Current History, Sara Roy wrote:

"Some analysts maintain that while Hamas leaders are being targeted, Israel is simultaneously pursuing its old strategy of promoting Hamas over the secular nationalist factions as a way of ensuring the ultimate demise of the [Palestinian Authority], and as an effort to extinguish Palestinian nationalism once and for all."

Essentially, the Muslim Brotherhood, with its many manifestations like Al Qaeda and bin Laden, serve as a Samuel Goldstein of Orwell's Nineteen-Eighty-Four, an ever-present and manufactured "terrorist" threat, used constantly as a pretext to justify repressive measures at home and expanded imperialistic objectives abroad.

Because, despite all the rhetoric employed in the War on Terror about the threat of "political Islam", unbeknownst to the general public, the manipulation of the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the world is still a mainstay of American foreign policy.

According to Reuel Marc Gerecht, a former CIA officer with experience in Iraq and the Middle East, as well as a neo-conservative hardliner with the notorious American Enterprise Institute:

Most American liberals and conservatives will strongly resist the idea that Islam's clergymen and lay fundamentalists, who usually dislike, if not detest, the United States, Israel, and progressive causes like women's rights, are the key to liberating the Muslim Middle East from its age-old reflexive hostility to the West.  There men, not the much admired liberal Muslim secularists who are always praised and sometimes defended by the American government and press, are the United States' most valuable potential democratic allies."

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:53 | 3002042 Canucklehead
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The facts in this question can best be explained by talking about Nabi Musa.

God gave Moses the ten commandments.  Two of which speak about not killing your fellow man, and not coveting your neighbours property.

God then gave the lands of Judea to the Jews.

End of Story.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:15 | 3002071 downwiththebanks
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Some of us believe in fairy tales.  Some believe in Invisible Men floating about the heavens.  Some use fairy tales as a pretext to justify Apartheid and massacring infants and grandmothers from 25,000'.  And with drones.

Your god is evidently a pathetic bully--fuck him.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:16 | 3002147 Canucklehead
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My God is your God.

Respect him or you will lose favor.  If you descend into the gates of hell, be prepared to be the flavor of the week.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:21 | 3002168 alien-IQ
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your mythological astrotheological solar deities do not govern the rules or morals of my life. that's why I don't bomb babies.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:30 | 3002202 Canucklehead
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I'm curious.  I assume you believe in evolution.

What came first, inspiration or evolution?  Did an organism's inspiration result in it's body's evolution to adapt; or did a change in it's body result in inspired use of that new attribute?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:40 | 3002246 alien-IQ
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Obviously you believe "The Flinstones" is based on a true story.

There is no talking to people like you. I will not start now.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:00 | 3002301 Canucklehead
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I am shocked, Shocked! that you have decided to leave the "conversation"...

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:22 | 3002171 downwiththebanks
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That's so cute, divorcing oneself from reality.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:28 | 3002193 alien-IQ
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it's impossible to respect a man that worships a god that advocates the killing of innocent women and children in order to facilitate the illegal seizure of another mans land.

they have reduced "god" to a real estate agent/mercenary recruiter.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:32 | 3002206 Canucklehead
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Ah, to kill... 

Did you get the memo about the 10 commandments?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:43 | 3002258 downwiththebanks
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Remind me where the 10Cs endorse Apartheid. . .

My one commandment:  Thou shalt stay off thine knees and fear no Sky-Goblin.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:00 | 3002299 akak
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My one commandment:  Thou shalt stay off thine knees and fear no Sky-Goblin.


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:03 | 3002316 Canucklehead
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So I take it that you do not value Nabi Musa much.  You've cruised past "apartheid" and segwayed into "Sky-Goblin"...

How do you define Sky-Goblin?  If it is disrespectful to the God of Abraham, why are you posting here?  Sowing seeds of distrust?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:49 | 3002498 InconvenientCou...
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My actions are holy : Your actions are evil

My God is all powerfull : I must do God's work on Earth

My God is the one true God : I am God


Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:17 | 3002151 alien-IQ
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and if you leave a tooth under your pillow, the tooth fairly will give you a dollar.

it's equally as reasonable as the superstitious psychobabble you are spewing.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:56 | 3002291 giggler123
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So going be the reports that Iran gave them plans for a new 75Km missle and finanical assistance, well a higher oil price probably just pays them for their effort?

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