Montana GOP Rep.: "Pay Me In Gold Before Dollars Have No Value"

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Jerry O'Neil, six-term GOP state representative in Montana, has asked to receive his salary (which at $10.33 per hour is around $1800 per month) in gold or silver. The long-standing legislator was driven to this decision by his constituents' concerns about the nation's massive debt-load and fears of our country's collapse as "only so many dollars can be printed before they have no value." The long-time Ron Paul supporter, according to Time, cited Article 1, Section 10 of the US Constitution, which says, in part, that "No State shall... make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts." State administrators have denied his request and added that "a bill could be introduced to accomplish this result." O'Neil, like many other, believes "The Keynesian era of financing government with debt appears to be close to its demise."

 

From O'Neil's Letter (via HuffPo):

It is very likely the bottom will fall out from under the U.S. dollar. Only so many dollars can be printed before they have no value. The Keynesian era of financing government with debt appears to be close to its demise.

 

If and when that happens, how can we in the Montana Legislature protect our constituents? -- The only answer I can come up with is to honor my oath to the U.S. Constitution and request that your debt to me be paid in gold and silver coins that will still have value when the U.S. dollar is reduced to junk status. I therefore request my legislative pay to be in gold and silver coins that are unadulterated with base metals.

 

Via Time:

A GOP state representative in Montana who asked to receive his salary in gold and silver coins has been rebuffed by the state’s Office of Legislative Services. Rep. Jerry O’Neil, who hails from the small town of Columbia Falls in the northwest corner of the state, sent a letter earlier this month requesting that his salary from here on in be paid in coins.

 

Given the state of the U.S. economy and the massive national debt, O’Neil reportedly worried that America’s paper currency could be on the brink of collapse. “Only so many dollars can be printed before they have no value,” he explained to the local Daily Inter Lake newspaper. According to USA Today, O’Neil is a longtime supporter of Ron Paul, the former Texas congressman and perennial presidential candidate who advocates a return to the gold standard.

 

However, it was O’Neil’s constituents who led him to consider requesting his salary in coins.  O’Neil has never before raised the subject of how he should be paid during his six terms as state representative for Montana’s Flathead Valley. “My constituents, when I went door to door, one of the things they were interested in was the $17 trillion national debt,” he explained to the Huffington Post. “Some of my constituents said we would not have this problem if we had currency backed by gold.”

 

Making his case to the Daily Inter Lake, O’Neil cited Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constution, which says, in part, that “No State shall… make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”

 

“How can we in the Montana Legislature protect our constituents?” O’Neil asked in his letter to the Office of Legislative Services.

 

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Montana state legislators are paid $10.33 per hour while the legislature is in session; O’Neil estimated his salary to be about $1,800 a month, close to the market value of one 2012 American Eagle One Ounce Gold Proof Coin, according to Politico.

 

Sheryl Olson, the deputy director of the Montana Department of Administration, told the Huffington Post that state employees are paid either by a state warrant of payment (basically, a check) or via direct deposit. To her knowledge, O’Neil is the only government worker to have requested payment in gold coin, she said.

 

Montana legislative attorney Jaret Coles responded to O’Neil’s letter last week, informing him that neither the U.S. Constitution nor Montana state law requires an agency to pay its debts with gold and silver, according to the Flathead Beacon. Coles explained in his letter that if a member of the legislature wishes to be paid in gold or silver “a bill could be introduced to accomplish this result,” reports Politico.

 

O’Neil has decided not to follow through on this advice and is looking into other options.

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Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:03 | 3009109 bobm2626
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Gold "Mutha Fuckin" Bitchez!

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:17 | 3009142 ACP
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For a good laugh, actually follow the HuffPo link and read the comments for entertainment value.

I'm just waiting for the left to further demonize gold to the point of being a domestic terrorist.

"It's not the spiraling debt, it's all these crazy gold bugs undermining the value of the dollar! They must be stopped!"

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:36 | 3009169 The Shootist
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Dirty, stinking speculators. No, I think DHS is already tracking people interested in gold, silver, the Constitution and liberty.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:48 | 3009188 ACP
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No doubt all the posts here, as well as our personal emails, phone calls and any other electronic communication are now (and have been) stored in Bluffdale, Utah, for "future use."

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:53 | 3009198 Enslavethechild...
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Hang all the Criminal Sociopath Bankerticians and their Cop thug friends

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:59 | 3009209 Dr. Sandi
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I believe their Cop thug friends are the ones who normally do the hangings.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:11 | 3009231 A Lunatic
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Which explains the lack of hangings...........

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:14 | 3009237 Enslavethechild...
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Cops prevent banker hangings, hang the cops.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:31 | 3009264 Michaelwiseguy
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Before you watch these videos, there's a few tidbits of understand I'd like to spell out.

The Class 2 & 3 UFOs are probably spirits of dead people and demonic entities who can't escape the Earthly realm because they are unacceptable and don't qualify to pass onto the higher realms of conscientiousness. They are hell bent on filthying up the place for their demonic master. Class 2 UFOs, glowing orb like manifestations, are the spirits of dead useful idiots and Class 3 UFOs, elongated bacteria shaped, are the dead spirits of Rothschild's, Rockefeller's, et al, whose Earth bound consciousness influences physical useful idiots and political leaders of men for enslavement and personal destruction purposes. Class 1 UFOs are physical anti-gravity drive secret craft already manufactured but hidden from us.

Joshua the Messenger, I only use English words I can understand, figured this out a long time ago and pretty much explained the whole thing. Today many follow a bastardized false Christianity that was re-written about 70AD to deceive people of the true message. I don't like to give names and put labels on something so massive in scope, but I'll refer to it as, the "Creating Conscientiousness of the Universe", is in charge of the place.

The choice we have is, do we want to side with those hell bent on filthying up the place with a New World Order one world government and people who are of a worse kind influenced by Earth bound entities, or do we want to side with a self determination type of people who are not influenced by spirits of dead people and Earth bound demons, and be of a of a better kind of people for beautifying the place. I believe this is the challenge of the day.

I don't have all the answers, but I think I'm onto something.

The Real Story Behind Aliens_ Ufos_ Demons_ Illuminati & Satanism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxGNYrBftI&feature=related

*AGE OF DECEIT* (FULL) Fallen Angels and the New World Order

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M&feature=related

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:36 | 3009269 Enslavethechild...
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Yes, you definately are on something

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 23:24 | 3009322 Michaelwiseguy
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I should have stated, read my words only after watching those videos.

There's some missing information in them but are very close to reality.

Perhaps a person needs to have a good primmer to even have the ability of having a cognitive level of understanding. A good start would be to read Mystery Of The Ages by Herbert W Armstrong. Use a King James version of the Bible when reading it.

I really don't expect even a handful of people to discuss the issue intelligently.

http://www.cogneo.org/literature/hwa/books/mystery.pdf 

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 23:43 | 3009341 LetThemEatRand
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Interesting but sophormoric attempt to conflate Ron Paul supporters with UFO believers.   And when I say "interesting," I mean it is interesting that someone wants to try.  Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist myself, but I don't think you posted your very uncharacteristic (for this site) UFO bullshit on this thread for no reason.   

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:12 | 3009361 Michaelwiseguy
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I don't believe in UFOs. That's the point of the exercise. I believe in manifestations of spirit entities that we are made to mistaken as UFOs for specific reasons.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:51 | 3009383 erg
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You don't believe in UFO's. Whatever UFO's may exist are just Terran tech. That's all that it is. Occam's Razor.

You're moving into David Icke territory, with maybe a touch of Bluebeam psychosis.

I'll grant you that I consider humanity as being at best only lightly enlightened. A bevy of religions trying to explain the universe.

The fact remains that we're not really that enlightened at all. We're in fact very prone to violence and destruction.

You're better off describing religion for yourself than be bound to intellectually thin precepts.

Don't steal, don't kill each other, don't fuck your neighbors wife, we get it. These base elements of civilization are andemic in religious doctrine.

Beyond such obvious, apparent things, there's not much left for me relative to the so-called established religions.

As I said, you're better off making it up for yourself.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 01:07 | 3009394 Pool Shark
Sun, 11/25/2012 - 08:44 | 3009556 GetZeeGold
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After visiting the waterboard ride at the DHS....Jerry rescinded his demands.

 

In the press conference he stated "What the hell was I thinking?"

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 08:55 | 3009563 overmedicatedun...
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waiting for the "new waco & ruby ridge"..too many are out of line. gotta remind the tax units who in in control.

PM holders are a national threat to the NWO..connect the dots. Obuma is the type who will fit the crime.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 01:28 | 3009407 Michaelwiseguy
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I agree. Every organized religion is virtually usless basterdized deception. It's better you discover universal realities yourself the best you can.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 01:57 | 3009425 herewego...
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Worser than a troll.

COINTELPRO Techniques for Dilution, Misdirection and Control of an Internet Forum

...Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. ...

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-28/cointelpro-techniques-di...

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 02:13 | 3009435 Michaelwiseguy
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I know I can thread jack with just a few sentences, or even one sentence, from my keyboard. I'm that powerful. Stop reminding me. I usually only post on off peak hours for that reason.

We can all think on multiple levels at the same time, the contributers on Zero Hedge.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 10:29 | 3009635 HamFistedIdiot
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Thanks for bringing this up. I've noticed more thread jacking here lately. There have been terribly diluted threads with a couple of posters taking over the majority of posts with off-topic dialogue, with the effect being that people like me lose interest in the discussion as a whole and then don't read long enough to benefit from the many insightful on-topic posts that are made in each thread. I have been banned or censored repeatedly at HuffPo, Common Dreams, Google, and Amazon on issues related to 9-11. While I don't think someone should be censored for bringing up UFOs or Religion in a thread on gold, perhaps -- assuming that site administrators have the time (that is a big assumption) -- Zerohedge could have the off topic post hidden (triggered by posters' negative ratings, or directly by an administrator) and then shown only by the reader clicking a "show post anyway" button. Infowars.com is crawling with this crap, and Alex's response, which I am not happy with, is rather than editing and archiving the article + numerous posts, he simply deletes all the comments after a week or two. I rarely post there nowadays because I don't want my contributions to be erased. Discussions are frequently more insightful than the original article.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 11:03 | 3009662 herewego...
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Anyway, back to the point: Montana GOP Rep.: "Pay Me In Gold Before Dollars Have No Value". 

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 16:34 | 3010165 Michaelwiseguy
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How do you explain the plethora of funny humerus one liner comments at the beginning of every thread that contribute nothing to the topic at hand? They add no in depth understanding to the topic and just take up space. At least If I throw you a curve ball and you don't want to engage, maybe your funny bone will get bruised and you will focus on the topic at hand and contribute something of value, or go away.  

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 03:24 | 3009459 chumbawamba
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You just wrote the equivalent of a mouthful of shit.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 11/26/2012 - 00:37 | 3010698 Michaelwiseguy
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I may not have been permitted to give away the worlds greatest secret right here on Zero Hedge, but I did anyway, so tuff fucking shit.

And it is a mouthful, even if I do say so myself.

 

G. Edward Griffin in Toronto (November 16th 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPJoccytom0&feature=youtu.be

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 04:37 | 3009482 Clashfan
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I'm still on the first vid. Interesting, thanks.

The folks in charge are definitely Luciferians. That much I know.

Of course, the real question is "Why," and while I can't say I agree w/everything your top link claims, at least it's trying to answer that question, which is the next, logical step.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 22:35 | 3010609 Dr. Sandi
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Hey Wiseguy...

I'm guessing that getting blown off ZH for being a troll isn't stopping you from being reincarnated.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:55 | 3009201 Zer0head
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They have been stored for years, the trick is that now there is the capability to organize and act on all of that data.  In socal they are taking it to a new level as they are implementing crowd scanning technology

http://www.globalresearch.ca/california-gets-face-scanners-to-spy-on-eve...

 

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:42 | 3009274 Enslavethechild...
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The Bankerticians are getting hyper-paranoid

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 21:28 | 3010542 Money Squid
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A good book to not buy is The Watchers: The Rise of America's Surveillance State, which provides a history of the various electronic information collection and processing. In the early days all electronic data could be collected and stored but not processed quickly or efficiently. Then, through another massive program, one in series of many, the NSA found way to process all the data in real time without bringind down their computer systems. All metadata is collected and all communications are intercepted and screened. Not sure if every single bit or bite or an attachment is also copied and kept, but one major factor is that there is a record of every email, phone call, tweet, fax, blog post (you can find your blog posts via google by querrying your screen name) bitcoin transaction, electronic funds transfer, any electronic banking transaction and so on. This is so that should you become a problem it will take only few seconds to call up complete dossier for you and any positive parts will be left out, any "negative" parts left in, and presto the feds will have national security letter for you.

Next time you go to see your doctor ask them for a copy of their medical records retention and access agreement. On mine I found an intereting little section, Item 16 which said as a matter of national security they will provide the feds access to my medical records and may not disclose to me that they have done so. This was enacted about 2003 if I recall correctly. The feds have access to everything as everything is related to national security.

Surprise

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 22:37 | 3010611 Dr. Sandi
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I wish these fuckers would let me access my data next time my hard drive crashes!!!!

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:36 | 3009371 TacticalZen
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Since Bluffdale is known it could be destroyed introducing a wild card into this equation.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 22:38 | 3010612 Dr. Sandi
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Except that Bluffdale is the stage name for Cheyenne Mountain.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:50 | 3009193 Zer0head
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ACP, the HuffPo comment sections are sadly a refelection of the majority. The folks who comment there are a reflection of the electorate that gave O his second term. 

 

The HuffPo crowd are by and large a vile and pathetic lot who live in a dream world of lattes, green energy and iphones.  They are however, what America has become so get used to it because it will only get worse.  Just wait for Cap and Trade, a general amenesty and the 2014 announcment of Michelle as America's first female and second African American President.   

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:58 | 3009208 ACP
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Agree. I think a good new hashtag for twitter to label the race-baiters and otherwise brainwashed stupids would be:

#HuffingtonBigot

Let them be known for the McCarthyism of the day.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:07 | 3009225 Zer0head
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Arianna's real last name is another option  Stassinopoulos or what I prefer  #Stassi

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 17:27 | 3010184 Michaelwiseguy
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I will not pay and do everything in my power to destroy the NWO "Carbon Unit Tax".

Carbon Dioxide is Gaia Food.

'STAR TREK: The Motion Picture' in 10 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkDF3Kufh6c

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 23:21 | 3009321 LetThemEatRand
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I agree, and the Drudge Report comments that follow many of his links are the mirror image -- equally devoid of intelligence and independent thought.  The Drudge Report crowd are by and large a vile and pathetic lot who live in a dream world of Chinese made cowboy hats, GM made Hummers and iphones.  They are however, what America has become so get used to it because it will only get worse.  Just wait for increased Drug Wars (hard to imagine, but possible), a general amnesty of those who question the terrorist alert levels, and the 2014 announcement of Jeb Bush as America's first Hispanic-married and third Bush President.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 23:28 | 3009327 odatruf
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LTER - true enough. I don't know whether the prevailing ignorance is worse now than in the past or if the web simply provides a megaphone to those who never had been heard in the past. Either way, it is damn depressing.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 23:37 | 3009334 LetThemEatRand
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A little of both, I think.  Mostly, it is tribalism.  Most humans associate with a team.   Very intelligent people dress in colors to go to a game, and they are very happy if the team wins even when it was clearly because of a bad call by the Ref.  They want to be on the winning team, even when it is utterly meaningless to their lives.  By the same token, once someone associates with a political team, they tend to care little about what the team actually does so long as the team leaders say the right things.  The sociopaths who tend to leadership roles -- be they elected or dictator or oligarch -- figured that out a LONG time ago.    

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:06 | 3009354 Spitzer
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I think George P. Bush is going to run.

http://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lounge/119309-george-p-bush-has-made-ca...

DALLAS (AP) - George P. Bush, a nephew of former Presidenthttp://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lounge/119309-george-p-bush-has-made-ca...

DALLAS (AP) - George P. Bush, a nephew of former President George W. Bush and son of one-time Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has made a campaign filing in Texas that is required of candidates planning to run for state office, an official said Thursday night.
The younger Bush, a Fort Worth resident, filed a campaign treasurer appointment Wednesday, a requirement for someone to become a candidate under campaign finance law, Tim Sorrells, general counsel for the Texas Ethics Commission, told The Associated Press.
Sorrells said the report does not specify what office Bush might seek, if any, and he had no other details on the filing, which wasn't available online. Bush did not immediately reply to an email seeking comment, and no phone listing for him could be found.
The 36-year-old said in September his goal was to run for office and acknowledged that he had his eyes on several statewide offices.
Raised in Florida, Bush decided to settle in Texas, home to his uncle and his grandfather, former President George H.W. Bush. He runs a consulting firm and has been active in Republican Party outreach to college students. He's also the co-founder of Hispanic Republicans of Texas, a group that seeks to elect Hispanic candidates.
Ana Navarro, who was the national Hispanic co-chairwoman for John McCain when he ran for president in 2008, tweeted her enthusiasm Thursday.
"Wrote check for my friend, (at)georgepbush newly formed exploratory committee for office in TX. Young, pragmatic, Hispanic, just what GOP needs," Navarro's tweet read.
George W. Bush and son of one-time Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has made a campaign filing in Texas that is required of candidates planning to run for state office, an official said Thursday night.

The younger Bush, a Fort Worth resident, filed a campaign treasurer appointment Wednesday, a requirement for someone to become a candidate under campaign finance law, Tim Sorrells, general counsel for the Texas Ethics Commission, told The Associated Press.
Sorrells said the report does not specify what office Bush might seek, if any, and he had no other details on the filing, which wasn't available online. Bush did not immediately reply to an email seeking comment, and no phone listing for him could be found.
The 36-year-old said in September his goal was to run for office and acknowledged that he had his eyes on several statewide offices.
Raised in Florida, Bush decided to settle in Texas, home to his uncle and his grandfather, former President George H.W. Bush. He runs a consulting firm and has been active in Republican Party outreach to college students. He's also the co-founder of Hispanic Republicans of Texas, a group that seeks to elect Hispanic candidates.
Ana Navarro, who was the national Hispanic co-chairwoman for John McCain when he ran for president in 2008, tweeted her enthusiasm Thursday.
"Wrote check for my friend, (at)georgepbush newly formed exploratory committee for office in TX. Young, pragmatic, Hispanic, just what GOP needs," Navarro's tweet read.

 

 

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 01:20 | 3009403 knukles
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Fucking wonderful.
Anybody else notice the few, several ruling families abounding.

If I didn't know any better I'd guess they're all Bilderbergers, related through their common Annanuuki Reptoid heritage, nurtured by the UFO beings who're helping the military with the genetic mofifications at Dulce and other huge military underground bases where the planes dropping the Chemtrails (which are really pigeon innards and rat penises) which when excited by the HAARP beams make the 3D holographic illusions of the imaginary character Ron Paul who gets reported as real by both Drudge and HuffPo

In case anybody has any questions.

Wilbur Mills 2016

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 04:57 | 3009487 AgShaman
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Don't forget to pass the bong...

You'll be okay

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 22:39 | 3010616 Dr. Sandi
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We need to dredge through the darkest valleys of the Ozarks and see if we can find some severely inbred cousins of Bill Clinton to put up against the Bush boys.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:20 | 3009365 Harbanger
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Elections have consequences bitches,

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 22:13 | 3009236 Freewheelin Franklin
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That's why a cryto-currency, like bitcoin, makes a good intermediate form of exchange. Plus, you should be using PGP encrytion and anonymous email.

 

http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html

 

http://tormail.org/

 

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 00:09 | 3009356 Spitzer
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Fiat currency makes a good enough MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE. As long as nobody saves in fiat, then there will be no purchasing power nto steal via inflation.

GOLD for saving

FIAT for spending

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 02:02 | 3009429 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ $55,000

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 09:28 | 3009581 GetZeeGold
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Get it while it's cheap.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 09:45 | 3009597 francis_sawyer
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Montana should see the bargain it's being offered because it would only cost them $5 to dig that gold out of the ground...

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