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Banker Bonuses: Spot The Odd One Out

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Bankers in London, Europe's trading hub, are bracing themselves for significantly lower bonuses (and salary cuts) especially so relative to their New York counterparts. As Bloomberg Businessweek notes in the brief clip below, investment bankers and traders should expect a 15% pay cut compared to unchanged in the US and while hope is that these are temporary, many believe this shift is structural and reflects "US regulators [not having] the same obsession with pay structures that European regulators have." As is evident from the chart below, there are winners and losers (and we bet you can guess who the winner is).

 

Looks like Goldman wins, UBS loses, and even with a huge drop in revenues Morgan Stanley  is being generous...

 

 

 

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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:54 | 3018267 Rathmullan
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For goddamn suchs, it's easy pickens when you are the "House".

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:01 | 3018281 Badabing
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The shit will keep goen on I'm buggen out!

 

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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:25 | 3018345 killallthefiat
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Looks like Morgan is about ready to go under.  The cockroaches executives at the top are fornicating right before the light comes on and the shoe falls.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:54 | 3018268 Calidreaming
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The Earth is going to be renamed Planet Goldman

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:52 | 3019418 prains
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and sponsored by Exxon

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 06:17 | 3019750 BrerRabbit
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But soon it'll be brought to you by...

BRAWNDO

THE THIRST MUTILATOR!

It's got what plants crave!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:56 | 3018272 Cognitive Dissonance
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"....many believe this shift is structural and reflects "US regulators [not having] the same obsession with pay structures that European regulators have."

Trust me; the US regulators ARE obsessed with US banker pay structures. The US regulators are obsessed with keeping their pay master's pay structures intact (and even rising).

<Pay no attention to what they say, just watch what they do. This applies to both the regulators AND the bankers.>

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:59 | 3018285 Tsar Pointless
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Yep.

Now, can somebody PLEASE explain to me how so many people - even supposed "smarter" ones who come on to this web site - can believe that America is "communist"?

Or, that Barack Obama is somehow "communist" or "socialist"? Because, if he were, this bonus crap would NOT be happening.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:10 | 3018307 otto skorzeny
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it is communism/socialism in that the govt will provide for a rapidly expanding number of people from cradle-to-grave for doing nothing more than living off of the toils of productive people.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:17 | 3018319 LawsofPhysics
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No, it's called fascism as the real owners of your representation pick the "winners" (themselves) and losers (you), rather than free market forces.  Anyone remember the last time the owners and management had to pay back the creditors with their own PRIVATE wealth when the company folded? They were happen to take the profits, but somehow want the taxpayer to bail them out?!?!  Say it with me dumbass, no more bailouts for any person/corpration!!!!!

Stupid fucking sheep.

 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:31 | 3018361 Biosci
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Power always reaches for more power.  No more bailouts?  You mean, a decentralization of political and economic power?  Not gonna happen without a radical destabilization -- a "one-time restructuring charge" like in 1776 or 1861, and we're far, far from that.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:40 | 3018397 LawsofPhysics
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Maybe, but such was the case then as well.  Nothing will change until the supply lines for essential goods and services breaks.  Then, and only then does anything really change. necessity and such.  The last time this happened there were less than 2 billion souls on the planet.  Now there is over 7 billion.  Think about it and hedge accordingly.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:09 | 3018817 rhinoblitzing
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Again, the concept more matches Marxism - the personality = Sociopathic Puppet

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:17 | 3018324 Rathmullan
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I like to think of the U.S. as "post communism". We sort of skipped the communist part and went straight to the oligarch phase (think today's russia, and china... where the heirs of the long marchers own and control everything meaningful). 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:57 | 3019426 prains
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Otto von nut sack

 

you keep going on about the political "ism" paradigm like they are calling the shots. They are the ticket punchers to the Olicorptocracy that is their paymaster. Take the (j)ism on your face and wipe it off. 

It looks unkempt and tends to smell if left on too long.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:11 | 3018308 LawsofPhysics
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It's called fascism.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:11 | 3018310 Dr. Richard Head
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I think many are pointing to the Soviet Era that touted Communism, but really practice what is happening today in Amerika - Crony Fuck Anyone in the Ass not Depending on the State Fascism.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:31 | 3018364 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Crony Fuck Anyone in the Ass not Depending on the State Fascism."

CFAADSF?

<You're gonna have to come up with something catchier than that bro.>  :>)

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:08 | 3018468 Blasé Faire
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We have Arrived at a Fundamentally Flawed, Loss-loving Economy. 

The WAFFLE Plan.  Everyone loves waffles so this was an easy sell.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:18 | 3018511 Dr. Richard Head
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I will get back to you when I got something.  I am thing working CCUNT into it somehow.

Crony-Capitalistic.........

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:43 | 3018582 Lonewar
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Dr. Dick Head,

How about, for CCUNT - Crony-Capitalistic United Nations Territory...

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:13 | 3018314 waterhorse
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I don't know.  From my view, I see trillions of dollars in socialism for the rich (big oil, big pharma, TBTF, big insurance, etc.) and "on your own" rugged individualism for most everyone else.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:15 | 3018502 NotApplicable
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Wow, that takes some real effort to misunderstand things this much.

Perhaps you should peek behind the curtain once in a while, and stop focusing on the facade.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:17 | 3018679 Antifaschistische
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Tsar,

Even the Marx dream of "from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs" has never existed in "communist" societies.  People get rich under 'communist/socialist' regimes because they take, skim, and restribute.  It's always been that way.   BO is a communist when it's convenient and a fascist at every turn.   He hides behind his socialist mask.  But, if you had to juxtapose communist vs. Adam Smith Style Independent Capitalist (i.e. freedom of choice in labor and product) then BO would certainly be the communist at that dinner table.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:06 | 3018810 rhinoblitzing
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Marxist Sociopath is more accurate... look it up

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:56 | 3018275 mrktwtch2
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bonus?? for what  showing up at your job??..lol

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 15:56 | 3018278 uno
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short term winners - Satan's helpers

short term losers - Americans with a brain and a soul

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:04 | 3018295 Darth Sidious
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how do you define short term? 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:08 | 3018303 uno
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this life

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:15 | 3018316 Skateboarder
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The entirety of our idiot ape species' existence on this rock is still short term.

In the next life, I hope to travel on starships and be part of an intergalactic Ponzi scheme erected by a corrupt republic.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:05 | 3018803 rhinoblitzing
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Ape Shall Not Kill Ape

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:03 | 3018292 Titus Flavius C...
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I wish some enterprising lad or lass would set off a nice, big EMP 10 or so yards from Goldman's servers.

 

The beneficial affect to the real economy is unquantifiable.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:03 | 3018293 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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The poor bastards! That Beamer is a couple of years old now, how embarassing!

At least we know that doing g-d's work pays better than the rest ...

There IS meaning in the Universe!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:04 | 3018294 slaughterer
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Need.   EOD.  AAPL.  RAMP.

Need.  Dow.  13000.  

Need. More. Bonus.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:05 | 3018300 Mad Mohel
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Bonus for suckin ass?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:14 | 3018315 Savyindallas
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I hope they all get herpes and AIDS  -these Wall street cretins are all bisexual anyway. Congress and the SEC won't do anything about these criminals  -maybe God or Mother nature will.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:07 | 3018301 otto skorzeny
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biggest losers- coke dealers and whores

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:52 | 3018433 realitybiter
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they just need to move to the market.  DC

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:09 | 3018306 Urban Redneck
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Both locals and the regulators are rather unhappy with UBS right now, this week's edition of the soap opera included the regulatory babysitters curtaining acquisitions and new product lines, which could understandably (and desirably) inhibit future growth of the TBTS Bank, even the FinMin was saying how the 10k UBS job cuts were good, in a convoluted Swiss sort of way.

The steps come on top of corrective measures taken as soon as the trading loss was discovered, which included a ban on new acquisitions at UBS's investment bank and a prior approval from Finma for any new business initiatives.

http://www.thelocal.ch/page/view/ubs-takes-double-hit-from-regulators

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/Financial_watchdogs_find_failings_a...

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 16:12 | 3018311 Everybodys All ...
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Muppetology.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:46 | 3018594 BattlegroundEur...
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Any nutjobs on here care to reduce the amount of bankers walking on the earth?

 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:32 | 3019396 Rockerchic
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No, but I will sit back and watch, secretly giddy and justice-star-struck while I pretend I'm disgusted with vigilante behaviors. Then I'll remember I'm a Christian and ask God for forgiveness for my evil thoughts. No lie.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 01:00 | 3019433 prains
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love honesty

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:49 | 3018762 IamtheREALmario
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MS is gonna party like its 1999. This seems to me to be a clear sign that MS is the next sacrifice for the slaughter and it would explain why JPM has been buying out many of MS's key IPO positions and tending the flock of insider baby birds with their mouths open waiting for pay day.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 04:36 | 3019671 CheapBastard
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"Why steal less when you can steal more?"

 

Wall Street Mantra

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 05:04 | 3019696 EZYJET PILOT
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Even with a pay cut it's still far too high when they shouldn't even have a job after doing the devils work and getting bailed out.

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