Guest Post: Bureaucratic Despotism

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Submitted by Bob Hoye via,

"A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it has destroyed itself from within. The essential causes of Rome's decline lay in her people, her morals, her class struggle, her failing trade, her bureaucratic despotism, her stifling taxes, her consuming wars."

- Will Durant, The Story Of Civilization III, Epilogue, 1944

A number of sources list this as a quote, but it is a synthesis of the Epilogue "Why Rome Fell". It is valid then as well as now. America as we know it won't collapse, but Americans have been unusually successful in dealing with "bureaucratic despotism". They will be successful again. Bankruptcy of another experiment in bureaucratic despotism will prompt a refreshing turn to reform of bullying politics.

The election was a big day for the implacable forces of big bureaucracy, main stream media and big unions. There is no change from before the election.

Hoye/Brown - originally published March 2009

Cartoon from 1934


This cartoon was published by the Chicago Tribune in 1934.

Look carefully at the plan of action in the lower left corner.

Remember the adage:

"Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it."

Couldn't find it in my old Webster's dictionary so I Googled it and discovered it is a recently "coined" new word found on T-shirts on eBay:


Read this one over slowly and absorb the facts that are within this definition! I love this word and believe that it will become a recognized English word. Finally, a word to describe our current political situation...

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"The king has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent Swarms of Officers to harass our People and eat out their substance."

- U.S. Declaration of Independenc

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TSA gropee's picture

It would certainly appear that history does indeed repeat itself. Can I shoot myself now?

Zero Govt's picture

Nope, not before you take some parasites before you go

blunderdog's picture

Kinda dishonest to make claims of "civilization" collapsing when he's obviously talking about "empire."

The Roman "civilization" didn't go anywhere.  It became Europe.  "Rome" wasn't a civilization, it was an empire.

Empires collapse, but the people usually don't go away.

NidStyles's picture

Most people do not understand what the word Civilization actually means, much less what it means to be civil.

ArrestBobRubin's picture

Here's the Must Read of the day. How we WISH it was an "Ineptocracy" that poses the greatest peril to the American Republic.  As if the shit we're in is a result of "ineptitude." Or, due to haha, "International Socialism". That's a good one Bob Hoye. Keep the comedy coming.

Brzezinski: US must stop following Israel “like a stupid mule”

Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

"....By denying any US “obligation” to “follow like a stupid mule whatever the Israelis do,” Brzezinski accurately implied that this is exactly what the US has been doing up until now. And by plaintively opining that “the United States has the right to have its own national security policy,” the former National Security Adviser underlined the fact that since the assassination of John F. Kennedy, who secretly went to war with Ben Gurion in a doomed effort to abort the Israeli nuclear weapons program, the US has not enjoyed that right.

Brzezinski’s assertion that the US is being led by the nose like a stupid mule by the Israelis is perhaps the most candid statement of its kind ever uttered in public by a high-level US strategist. Brzezinski’s remarks reflect the mainstreaming of the arguments presented by leading US political scientists Walt and Mearsheimer in their book The Israel Lobby.

Indeed, Brzezinski has gone much further than Walt and Mearsheimer, who couch their critique of the tail-wags-the-dog US-Israel relationship in extremely cautious language. By laying it out so explicitly, Brzezinski is in effect joining the ranks of such scholars as James Petras and Grant Smith, who leave Walt and Mearsheimer in the dust as they boldly and accurately describe the outrageous, destructive, and quite literally criminal Israeli domination of the US. (As Smith argues in Foreign Agents, the hundreds of thousands of members of the Zionist Power Configuration described by Petras are acting as unregistered agents of a foreign power; if the law were properly enforced, they would all be in prison.)..."  Contd

See what I mean by Must Read? If you want Real, not fluff, it's right there for you.




Joe A's picture

Brzezinski is also one of the architects of US foreign policy which evolves around the US dominating Eurasia. He is member of CFR, trilateral commission and frequent invite to Bilderberg. Everything that this man says should be seen in that context. In the international world of (geo)politics, allies come and go.

Joe A's picture

America is not Rome. Or is it?

randomdrift's picture

America is similar to Rome in many ways: America is multi-cultural, composed of many peoples, as was Rome, particularly during its latter years; America's level of morality appears worse, in some but not all ways than it was in Rome, (based on what Tacitus said about it during Nero's era  in his Annals of Rome); it has exported most of its productive industries, whereas, there were never many in Rome; most professions and skilled jobs in America are now licensed, as they were in Rome towards the end; the Roman economy was originally based on agriculture, in particular on wheat, as it was in America until recently; international trade made it difficult to make a living in Rome, as it does increasingly in America; international trade was accessible only to the wealthy in Rome and is principally conducted by the more affluent in America; those Romans who were not wealthy had little opportunity, except to join the army, as is increasingly becoming the case in Americca, today; veterans are given preference in hiring within America, today, and they were certainly honored in Rome if not given preferrence; that increasing makes America into a killing machine, as Rome was during their periods of expansion; but both America, today, and Rome towards it end has many young men who are/were not suitable for military duty; both America, today, and Rome during its last century are/were "Christian," although, the various denominations that bear that name differ widely; Rome was strongly anti-intellectual but today still only some segments of American society are; and towards its end the life-expectancy of a man in Rome was around twenty years, and the life-expectancy of a workingclass Mexican-American in the County in California where I grew up was 21 years, and people of that class, origin and ethnicity are now the majority in much of California, and much of the rest of America is now increasingly becoming like that. ---  Yes. America and Rome are very similar.    

woggie's picture

the beast is on the gobble
and all that matters is we're all headed for it's belly

NidStyles's picture

People wonder why I'm an Anarchist.

Zero Govt's picture

you're only an anarchist if you support Govt

the No.1 institution of murder, mayhem and socio-economic vandalism in history

fiddy pence haff pound's picture

I can't believe troll nuts are mentioning Galt.

He's the figment of the imagination of what Mark Ames calls

"a crazy Russian bag lady".


It's like waiting for your dad to solve your neighbourhood bully problems.

Stop dreaming.

The Alarmist's picture

Yeah, but they have the police-state apparatus to make sure you pay them their due, so they don't seem to be so inept now, do they?

Zero Govt's picture

did the Viet Kong and Taliban stand in the street waiting to be "collected" ?

...disappear off the Govt radar, you've no idea how dumb Big Govt is

H E D G E H O G's picture

Looks like some sheep got shot in MadHatten today. Was it Sandy's fault, or was it a dispute on Black Wednesday over an I-fuck? just thinkin out loud.....................

ahb's picture

Ineptocracy my ass. Total governmental transfers and assumed liabilities related to U.S. financial institutions since 2008 exceed the entire history of all social welfare programs for all free world economies collectively since Bismarck (do the numbers, its true). The elite have milked the world nearly dry and now ZH trots out dumb fuck after dumb fuck guest posters to tell us it's the poor's fault for voting themselves money via Obama. Fucking idiots. The rich learned to vote themselves money by the bankload decades ago. Politicians stole $4 Trillion from the SSI trust fund and paid it to their crony military contractor paymasters and now SSI is being blamed for the current crisis? The problem isn't an ineptocracy, it's a greed machine so powerful and efficient that it will literally suck the life from the planet before it can be stopped. And you fucking dickheads are cheering it on. Nice job ZH.

smacker's picture

A fault line of democracy is that it produces governments which offer collectivist policies/solutions. Politicians get elected by moving towards the centre ground. Most Western political parties get elected because they offer policies/solutions which maximise the benefits and minimise the cost to the greatest number of people, the latter often being people who had no involvement in creating the problem which needs fixing. In practice, this collectivism means that some people get a free lunch or get rewarded for acting irresponsibly, whilst the solution costs are spread across society.

A so-called solution to the banking/economic crises is an example of this collectivist process in action. In the UK, people who over-borrowed to climb aboard the property gravytrain to cash-in on capital profit, just before prices tumbled, are now enjoying Zirp. The cost of this is being funded by savers/investors, because the political elites cannot face the prospect of people with mortgages handing in their keys and becoming homeless, then demanding social housing for themselves and their kids. It's wealth redistribution.

blunderdog's picture

"Society" is kind of a tradeoff.

smacker's picture

Or perhaps socializing debts & costs the trade off.

But it's inconsistent for those who believe in individualism, who want to make their own way in life without having to fork out all the time to support those who've been selfish/greedy or taken wrong decisions but had their votes bought by the political elites and been promised largesse from the Treasury to pay for their mistakes.

This system is one that nobody voted for and nobody has a choice to opt out of it. If you refuse to take part by witholding your taxes, you end up in the slammer.

blunderdog's picture

If you want to live in a world where you have to "vote for" the system you prefer, you need central-planners with tremendous authority.  No thanks.

The trade-off has ALWAYS existed when people group together and share resources.  If you don't want to engage in basic human socialization, the USA is one of the best places in the world where you can find a way to avoid it.

smacker's picture

I can't find much to agree with there. Your phrase "The trade-off has ALWAYS existed when people group together and share resources" says it all, because -- although it accurately describes what we have -- many people do not want that model but have no choice. That was my point: the socialization of debts/costs have gone out of control.

In the UK we already have some socialization of motor car insurance and soon to be property insurance. The last socialist government wanted to introduce a new tax on all telephone subscribers to pay the cost of providing broadband to remote communities. It goes on and on...

A practical solution is to have a strong written constitution, not drafted by the political elites, which is enforced by an independent body, not appointed by the political elites. It would contain very a clear statement of the limited roles & responsibilities of government. And if it ain't on the list, it ain't their business.

blunderdog's picture

    A practical solution is to have a strong written constitution, not drafted by the political elites, which is enforced by an independent body, not appointed by the political elites.

That's what we did in the USA awhile back.  It got us this far.  The thing is: that "independent body" is just another group of "political elites."

The current battle is basically over--industry beat governments by the end of the 20th century.  You have plenty of control over ALL of your day-to-day freedoms if you have enough money to purchase the right services from the right providers.

Government's passe, but they haven't given up yet, and they'll keep fighting as long as anyone pays any attention to them.

smacker's picture

At its inception, America failed to devise an oversight mechanism for its constitution. The consequence has been that successive governments for a very l-o-n-g time have gotten away with trashing it, and your recourse is thru the (very expensive and stressful) judicial system where the supreme court are political appointees.

The independent body is obviously crucial and potentially open to brown envelopes and corruption...but nothing is perfect.

Suppose the oversight board was not politically appointed and every new law had to be signed off by them before it could become law?

blunderdog's picture

     Suppose the oversight board was not politically appointed and every new law had to be signed off by them before it could become law?

That would make the "oversight board" a VERY POWERFUL group of politicians.

Where would they come from?

smacker's picture

I have always been adamant they should not be politicians, not even has-been politicians. That would be like asking bank robbers to advise on bank security.

IMHO they should be chosen for their expertise in constitutional affairs and would probably be (elected?) academics. Dunno, but their role would be to study all proposed new laws for compliance with the constitution. Nothing is perfect but this would provide considerable protection against despotic politicians.

Fezter's picture

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.
Alexis de Tocqueville