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Guest Post: The Madness Of A Lost Society

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Via Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

While we are very far gone at the moment as a society, never forget there are millions of people out there fighting for what is right and we will succeed in ushering in a new and more positive era for life on earth.  These 11 minutes are well worth your time.



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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:48 | 3018599 JPM Hater001
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Congrats SGT

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:01 | 3018635 SMG
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It's nice to hear some real hope once and a while.  Thanks.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:14 | 3018669 Ignatius
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9/11 is intimately tied into all of this.  It is the crack in the wall. 

How many top elites killed on 9/11?  Zero.

How many held accountable?  Zero.

How many draconian measures of control instituted since 9/11?  Many, and rising.

Why torture?  To maintain a lie, extort a confession.  The official 9/11 narrative DEPENDS on the confessions that were extorted via torture.

A few days of sincere research and it all unravels.

Critics say that "conspiracy theorists" need a conspiracy for the world to 'make sense'.  Hogwash.  People can't look at it because it's like finding out that a favorite uncle has been molesting your little sister.


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:17 | 3018682 john39
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more like finding out that their entire conception of reality is a fabricated lie...

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:51 | 3018765 Michaelwiseguy
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The complete and total worldwide economic collapse will solve most of our problems, if we seize the opportunity to round up, jail, and kill those at the top who orchestrated and conducted this laboratory experiment on us.

In no other time in history have the people had the tools to dispatch our overlords in the proper manner, using the internet to find out who they are, where they live using Google Earth satellite imagery/GPS, and the means with our guns and ammo piled up to the wazoo in our closets.

Just be ready to use all the tools you have at your disposal.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:14 | 3018801 TwoShortPlanks
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You're of course assuming they'll just run...not so, they'll adopt a 'Scorched Earth' Policy whereby they (The BIS to be precise) will destroy the financial system from within and let it implode (either shutting down all BIS servers, or block all Swift Codes except those which benifit their cause etc). This will ground all airlines, stop all shipping, deny seed and fertilizer to farmers, essentially they'll make it living hell within a month before you even get a chance to have a swing back at them. They are protected under Swiss Law, they are imunne to ALL prosecution and they have their own mini Army afforded to them under under diplomatic immunity within Swiss Law. By the time you get back on your feet, you'll be doing it Book Of Eli style....they will deny you all modern technology and transportation.

More than likely, they even have the UN under their control by now.

That's what I'd do if I were them. And you wouldn't stand a chance.

Here's their power:

Here's their hang-out...Good Luck!


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:26 | 3018854 Michaelwiseguy
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I'm counting on them doing this so we can more easily identify them. The people living in Europe will be charged to take care of that problem over there just as the people living in the US will be charged to take care of the criminals here. I don't really care if they use a scorched earth policy on us, that will just make the quickening happen much more quickly. American gun owners out number government employees 100 to 1. We then take control establishing a new currency as quickly as possible backing the currency using our Gold stored in Fort Knox. And God help them if our Gold isn't there.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:41 | 3018898 The Shootist
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To be clear, you aren't MichaelJR are you?

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 07:36 | 3019807 Enslavethechild...
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Buy the Metals, prepare your farm, relax.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:49 | 3018905 TwoShortPlanks
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Are you serious? Have you not seen at least one of those Black Friday videos, or that lady on the video in this thread crying for someone to help.

I'm sorry, but 99.99% of people are not self-sufficient. You will be snowed under by masses of men trying to take whatever you have, and women who'll do anything to feed their kids. If you look even remotely confident you'll be flocked by beggars wanting you to save them...I really don't think you have a clue what the situation will look like. You won't even be able to leave your home.

It will look like a Zombie Apocolypse without the Zombies. It will look like a post nuclear apocolypse without the radiation....understand?

Sandy left peole without electricity, some non-staple foods and water for what, a week or so....but they knew the rest of the world was out there still....imagine a month of nothing and knowing that nobody is coming to help.

Day 1: News announcements and panic. Banks close, forever!
Day 2: People in the streets wandering what to do.
Day 3: No food in any shops and looting starts.
Day 4: Mass panic. Police, Soldiers go home to look after family (security ends here).
Day 5: Most people will have little food left.
Day 6: Fuel runs out.
Day 7: Violence breaks out. People leave on mass to the country, by car, bicycle, and on foot.
Week 2: Nobody can find any Gov officials. Hopelessness sweeps the planet.
Week 3: People start eating people! (refer to Christian Crusades for evidence)
Week 4: Cities are a wasteland, survivors are underground hiding and only come out to scavenge at night.
Week 5: Running water stops (civilization ends).

Question: exactly where in this list would you need to gather an Army and fight back?

Answer: You won't need to anything, nothing will be guarded, you can waltz right on in to any Bank, Army Barracks, whatever. The Elites will be hiding-out for at least 2-3 years before they make any move at all.

At least Whales won't have to listen to 50,000 ships bangging and clanging above them anymore....peace and quiet; something all marine animals have never known, except some Turtles.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:17 | 3018975 TwoShortPlanks
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The safest pace on Earth will be....*Drum Roll*....Cuba! They have been here before and survived. They have had to make ends meet and waste nothing for decades. Everything is recycled. Food is grown everywhere. Many modern items cannot be imported. Medicine and medical facilities are limited.....and they have adapted to this and thrived.

Who would have known?!


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:31 | 3019006 Dr. Sandi
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My money is on North Korea. Now THERE'S a nation filled with regular citizens who know how to get by with almost nothing at all. They probably won't even notice an economic apocalypse.

What an irony to see them become the big kids on the block, after the giants implode in their own folly.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:11 | 3019203 Moe Howard
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Those fuckers in North Korea can eat GRASS! Actual grass. Not sure what type, Kentucky Blue Grass or Rye or what it is, but they eat it.

How will we ever compete?

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:50 | 3019414 JoeSexPack
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Humans can't digest cellulose in grass.


Cows can, so we became ranchers & ate them.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 02:31 | 3019549 Lord Koos
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Without China's help, N. Korea collapses into total famine.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:19 | 3019327 GottaBKiddn
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What a bunch of crap! Mike, you obviously don't have a clue what is going on. This is not about currency collapse or coming shortages, this is about Global Tyranny, the likes of which have never been seen. So we're too smart to be fooled like those in the shopping stupidity? Think again. Think about the Russian revolution, where those smart people you're talking about were summarily executed in the simplest fashion possible, for being the smart people. Stupid manageable pigs were safe if they stayed out of the way and were willing to work, quietly. Maybe they don't know who the smart people are? Think again. Every email, every blog, every phone call or text, every fax, every book, every comment, every search,....... has been thoroughly examined and digitally archived. At the click of a mouse, you're a dead man. Your face has been scanned, your retina too, and probably you're DNA has been identified, you're such a sitting duck a blind man could see you. And we "the smart people" are going to pick up all the pieces and build a utopia? These "world leaders" aren't making economic mistakes, they've been planning this for many, many years, and everything is right on schedule. These people aren't just greedy, they're obsessed with cruelty and blood-thirst, and all the smartest people in the world haven't been able to stop them even though their plans are right out in the open. I know you mean well Mike, but you need to wake up, storing up supplies is always fine, but it's not going to stop what's coming and won't be around after it comes down like a ton of bloody bricks.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:41 | 3019347 Michaelwiseguy
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Those people were in large enough numbers, they made Mitt Romney lose the election. I'm not worried.

Alex Jones Caller Ron Paul Revenge Voters For Obama 11/09/2012


Thu, 11/29/2012 - 04:57 | 3019688 RafterManFMJ
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GottaBkiddn if the Global War Against the Elite (GWAE) begins, I intend to bludgeon them senseless with the solid wall of text you've crafted.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 20:49 | 3022420 debtandtaxes
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and there you have it:

a) live as a slave OR
b) die resisting slavery.

At least we will soon have the choice.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:37 | 3019338 Michaelwiseguy
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Do you think Apple and Google stock price will be zero when that happens?

Then I die a happy man.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:48 | 3018915 Grinder74
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100 to 1?  And how are you counting government employees who own guns themselves?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:52 | 3018920 logicalman
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The PTB are riding a tiger, and they know it.

Desperate people do desperate things.

The psychopaths at the top will destroy the world rather than admit they are wrong (or that they are pshychopaths!)

WWIII anyone?

Give it a couple of hundred million years and another sentient species (Notice, I didn't say Intelligent) will show up.

Hopefully, when their archeologists dig us, and our effect on planet earth, up, they will see where humans fucked up and learn the lesson. If they don't learn said lesson, they will go down the same path. (I know I'm paraphrasing)

If the world gets any worse, I don't wanna live here.

This is one of the reasons I love ethanol.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:54 | 3019052 Raynja
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This is one of the reasons I love alcohol. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:35 | 3019135 Silver Garbage Man
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Swap your booze for pot and your cash for silver and you will be fine.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:08 | 3019312 samsara
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Thu, 11/29/2012 - 01:35 | 3019465 Kiwi Pete
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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:58 | 3018778 TwoShortPlanks
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And here's where we end up...The Agenda 21 Hunger Games


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:35 | 3019009 Shizzmoney
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I liked that book when it was "Battle Royale 99" (which is probably more accurate to where we end up).

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:04 | 3019306 samsara
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Yes,  All these things point to the fact that many who have had an 'Awakening'  so to speak,  feel exactly like being in 'The Truman Show'  and some of us are on the boat hitting the wall with the stairs out...




Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:11 | 3018827 optimator
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Remember those rediculous "Protocols", that fabrication of over a hundred years ago?  Read it every so often so you know where we are scheme of things.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:23 | 3018987 Shizzmoney
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Whenever anyone asks you on why you think 9/11 is a conspiracy....and what would be possible reason would the corrupt corportocratic government would ever do such a thing and kill its own people?

Answer: "I have 3 Trillion reasons why they would do it.....and I'm probably being generous."

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:22 | 3019115 Ignatius
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Two guys hold up a filling station and it's a "conspiracy" to make off with the cash.

Here we have 9/11 with, as you say, trillions of dollars and world hegemony as the loot (among other agendas) and people look the other way for fear of being labeled a "conspiracy theorist."  Mark Crispin Miller researched the history of "conspiracy theorist" and found it hit a marked turning point with the declassification of an April '67 CIA memo that suggested, among other things, that those writing JFK books be so labeled.  It hardly ever appeared in places like NY Times/Wa Post before then, but was applied regularly after that memo.

Though some 3/4 of Americans now believe that JFK was the victim of a conspiracy there is not one mainstream newscaster or analyst who holds that view.  Hmmm......

Elites understand their interests, agenda and power... and use it.  Surprise!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:37 | 3019140 Crisismode
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Real Hope is Real Delusion.

Get Real. Forget the "HOPE"

Get into Reality.


Thu, 11/29/2012 - 01:17 | 3019322 cranky-old-geezer
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9/11 is intimately tied into all of this.

You don't have to go there.  The coming collapse will happen even if 9/11 never happened.

And it won't be debt collapse.  There is no "fiscal cliff".  Fed will print all the currency needed to keep funding deficits, $2 trillion deficits, $3 trillion deficits, even $5 trillion deficits, it doesn't matter. 

The government economy will continue growing while the private sector economy continues imploding.  Govt workers willl have paychecks while everybody around them loses theirs. Govt workers are the new upper middle class while much of the private sector middle class drops out of the middle class into poverty as the private sector continues collapsing.

DC and Wall Street are the new centers of wealth in America.  They get all the printed cash they want. $3 trillion a year now.  Maybe $4 trillion, $5 trillion, who knows.  If you work for Wall Street or the federal government your future looks pretty good.  You get paid from wealth stolen from everyone around you, but you don't care, you have your gravy train, screw everybody around you, you're better than them.

Even if it's only $3 trillion a year, it's enough to destroy the dollar before much longer.  No, there won't be debt collapse.  The federal govt won't go bankrupt.  Federal debt can grow to $50 trillion and things will go right on.

...until the rest of the world says "enough" and starts dumping rapidly debasing US dollars (and treasury debt).

That's when the collapse will happen.  It'll be currency collapse.  USD will lose reserve currency status and things in America go downhill rapidly from there.  Everybody still getting a paycheck will see the dollars in those paychecks lose value frighteningly fast.  Prices will skyrocket in response to the rapidly collapsing dollar.

That's when American society starts coming apart.  When people can't even afford essentials anymore.

But DC and Wall Street will escape much of it with their $10 trillion annual cash gifts from the Fed.  Maybe $20 trillion a year by then.

This will all happen whether 9/11 happend or not.

There will be no "revolution" to prevent all this from happening.  Fed will never be corralled and Fed printing presses will never be shut off.  The federal government will have 10 - 15 million well-armed loyal law enforcement people at their command to protect the staus quo.  That's way more than enough to control the American sheeple ...who will be spending their time looking for something to eat.

Of course sites like ZeroHedge will continue giving detail reports at each step of the process.  When federal debt hits $20 trillion ZH will fuss and fume over it.  When federal debt hits $25 trillion, $30 trillion, $35 trillion, $40 trillion, $50 trillion, more fussing and fuming from ZH and similar sites ...until they're shut down ...which might not happen, they give sheeple a forum to vent their frustrations, vent their anger, keep 'em docile, etc.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 08:46 | 3019914 somecallmetimmah
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"When federal debt hits $20 trillion..."


Too late!  Doh!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 04:49 | 3019680 Western
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wow 9/11 is so passe, everybody and their sister knows what happened


but talking about it with tiny admissions here and there, you keep it in the forefront.. when really, there are more pertinent things at stake


"focus on the past, not your future" , you're beating the drum for them

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 02:00 | 3022903 Ignatius
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"...9/11 is so passe..."

Is that the 'cool' position?

If you daughter, God forbid, were raped would you say "that's yesterday's news, move on"?

3000 people were murdered on 9/11, and it's an open question in the public mind as to 'who' did it.  Is "passe" your answer to the families?

Is "passe" your answer on the massive control fraud that Bill Black describes.  Should we 'move on'?

The Global War on Terror is propelled by this myth. A million Iraqi deaths are estimated, and thousands of US and coalition troops.  I think it's worth clarifying.

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 08:44 | 3023160 Random
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That anyone died on 9/11 (WTC, Pentagon, hijacked planes and related events) is debatable IMHO (albeit anathema, even within "truther"movement) , as evidence has come forward in the last years hinting to the contrary.

Sat, 12/01/2012 - 05:06 | 3026111 Western
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I care less about things every day. I've killed my ego.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:19 | 3018671 camaro68ss
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Watched this yesterday and shared it with my sheeple friends. 2 are now prepping and one asked how offten i where my foil hat. Then he goes on to tell me you cant invest in gold because it doesnt turn a profit. I started to shake my head and laugh.

Some people will never get it. They cant be saved....

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:22 | 3018690 Zero Govt
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Some people will never get that Govt is the root of (most) evil

there are even those lost souls (minds?) that call for "The Rule of Law" when it is always Law, and its rise, that leads to tyranny (anarchy)

Govt is the anarchy we are seeing about us, without Govt this parasite cancer would be miniscule and containable it stands with Govt funding the parasites it will wreck all of us

Get out the system... Stop Paying Tax

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 02:22 | 3019450 nc551
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If you don't have the balls to stop paying altogether, at least only pay every 4-5 years where you can get a fat discount by negotiating a payment and paying with your newer depreciated FRNs... up to 80% discount is attainable.  Or put all your tax payments into gold and every 3-4 years cash it out to pay.  That way you get hold onto your money in case of any sort of collapse where you no longer have to pay taxes.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:54 | 3018922 logicalman
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There's no pill for STUPID!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:41 | 3019150 10mm
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Fuck em Camaro.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 11:58 | 3020570 RockyRacoon
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" cant invest in gold because it doesn't turn a profit."

I guess one would have to define "profit", eh?  For me, profit is the retention of purchasing power.  If others are losing the value of their fiat currency and I am maintaining mine (read: maintenance of ability to purchase the equivalent of my cost in acquiring the gold/silver), then I have a "profit".  That's pretty simple.   Explain it that way and you'll get more glazed-over eyeballs.  That would require a rudimentary understanding of what a "store of value" is for the explanation to launch.  Very few will get it.  But... why bother?  Ain't my/our job to help them beyond the first volley.   There is the Golden Rule which everyone knows, and there is the Platinum Rule:  Never do for another that which they won't take the time to do for themselves.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:37 | 3018734 SheepHerder
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Okay so the video has succeeded in scaring me, so what's the long term solution after the bloodshed in the street becomes too much?

Here's my shot at a solution.  For a lack of creativity let's call it "The People's Movement."  Neighborhoods should start getting together with the sole purpose of being thinktanks for solving societal ills.  Each community thinktank should send a representative to meet within a district.  Each neighborhood representative in that meeting would communicate what is being discussed within each neighborhood.  This model continues up to a national level.  

Here are some of the ideals of "The People's Movement."  Rather than push for a life full of money and materialism, we take after the Bhutan's model and strive to create a national happiness index.  Scientists have been studying happiness for a while and have found correlations on what activites lead to happiness.  Strong relationships, acts of kindness, meditation, etc. are just a few.  Not surprisingly most of the data fliesin the face of a material and money centered society.  These should be adopted and put in practice within each neighborhood cell within "The People's Movement."  The common bond within the movement is a fear of how the status quo will screw over current and future generations.  

I'm short on details, here, but I do have them. The model is really not new.  It's loosely based on 12 step programs.  And while it may seem odd that I'd use 12 step programs as a model, as a recovering addict, I can spot America's behaviors and trajectories and without a doubt know that as a society our country is behaving just like an addict.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:44 | 3018752 Darkness
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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:56 | 3018776 Michaelwiseguy
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Discuss the 10 Amendments called the Bill of Rights first. Discuss vigorously the meaning of them, writing many books on the ten subjects, and discuss how to enforce those rights for everyone.

Then we can talk.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:57 | 3018783 Let them eat iPads
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That sounds wonderful, but will there still be a Black Friday?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:28 | 3018997 Manthong
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I'm prepared.

Generator.. walk-in freezer.. 320 cases of Twinkies.. bring it.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:11 | 3019205 James
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Kit to run your generator on 3 fuels.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:50 | 3019361 petolo
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Oh James. Forget about 3 fuel generators and spend your money on hand-tools and people and animal powered machines. Our forefathers did it and the Amish still do it. I lived without electricity for 8 yearsand became very familiat with a goose-neck hoe, kerosene lamps and a good team of horses. Add a few chickens, a dairy cow, a couple acres vegetables and woodlot and you can take care of yourself and a few good neighbors. Fuck the plastic and cardboard shit and those who sell and promote it.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:35 | 3019010 Dr. Sandi
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Let's all get together in meetings and decide who, if anybody, will do the actual work that is required.

This will be controversial, so expect a lot of meetings before actual work, if any, starts getting done.

That's what makes America the economic power that she is today.

As for me, I'll just keep planting stuff I can eat, and sharing ideas and sugar with the neighbors who aren't total zombies.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 09:14 | 3019962 somecallmetimmah
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The 'answer' to any addiction, which you correctly identify as the core paradigm here in America, is the individual's personal decision to change.  But the ability to change and the decision to do so, are radically distinct things.

It doesn't take a village.  It doesn't require more hand-outs, or a "leg-up", or a big tent, or "power to the people" or any other "I'm just a helpless victim" distraction.

Decide.  Act.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:23 | 3020648 RockyRacoon
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SheepHerder, lovely sentiment and, of course, a nice set of ideas.  Utopia, however, will not begin unless the First Step is taken.  Recognition that there is a problem is required.   As with any addiction, one must admit that there is a problem, hence, a solution.   As long as there are throngs at Black Friday there will always be factions in our own neighborhoods who will thwart any attempt at change.   If you can get a group together the day after Thanksgiving to work on a common project, really work, then your core group is workable.  As somecallmetimmah has pointed out: "Decide.  Act."  I've decided and am acting.  If you wanna join me, great.  If not, get out of the way.  Keep coming back.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:51 | 3018608 kliguy38
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Nothing lost here...just a bunch of conditioned sheep. Wear yourself out worrying how to change them back to democracy and the constitution, but then you are then missing the point. Its YOU that needs to stop and look in the mirror. The oligarchy owns you too. Without you changing then forget the sheep....THEY are hopelessly controlled by the mass psyops. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:25 | 3018695 ArrestBobRubin
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Right there with ya Kli. 

"And so with gods and men, the sheep remain inside their pen, though many times they've see the way to leave"

-Peter Gabriel

It's tough holding open the sheep pen gate and then watching as 99% of the sheep remain intent on their one-way trip to the abbatoir. But some do decide to leave.  One of these days we'll hit the Hundedth Monkey, I just hope it won't be too late to matter.


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:31 | 3018713 kill switch
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Your general thesis is correct,,,,but please stop referring to the U.S. as a democracy, we are not a democracy!!!!! We are a republic,,,,,huge distinction....


P.S. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner... As in 60% of the people believe in gun control...the remaining 40% FUCKEM.....You see my point? I'm with the 60%, Gun control = a steady hand and a sharp eye..

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:59 | 3018790 MachoMan
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Being as diplomatic as possible, we have a de facto democracy.  You might call our form of government a republic, but it is only in form and not substance.   

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:11 | 3018828 Manthong
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U.S. as a democracy, we are not a democracy!!!!! We are a republic,,,,,huge distinction.”

Um, correction .. we WERE a Republic.

The 17th Amendment turned the Senate into a mob psychology beauty contest of special interest contestants and subsequently wrecked the balance of an exquisitely designed republic focused on local and states rights.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:16 | 3018910 Manthong
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Obviously, someone does not understand what was done to us in 1913 and that Senate appointments were the lynchpin of the states rights oriented republic that was pulled in favor of a federal dominion empowered by the malleable mob.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:21 | 3018849 kill switch
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 but it is only in form and not substance

 My fault? I know this,,, and?  We should be subservient to this general misconception?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:02 | 3018797 ArrestBobRubin
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Lead Poisoning = banksters and neocons riddled by gunfire

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:31 | 3019128 HiHoAg
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As long as you add progressives to your list I'm game...


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:38 | 3018893 kill switch
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I love being down arrowed, I know who did it,,, The shopper in the video with the airwick dispenser for his kitchen..

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 07:17 | 3019790 Amagnonx
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The US is a democracy - if the basis of your feeling better is reliant on your relative safety from the process of democracy, then get ready for discomfort.  Your so called republic is a representative democracy - and by this stage you should be aware, only the wolves get a vote.


Freedom is only available in anarchy - and any transition to anarchy after the collapse of a state is unlikely to be a pleasant transition - rather it will be punctuated by the gunfire of warlords seeking dictatorial control.



Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:51 | 3018609 BattlegroundEur...
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At least they got 50% off...



Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:10 | 3018661 lemonobrien
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they also got lots of practice in getting food from the back of government trucks dispensing corn and cheese blocks after the collapse.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:41 | 3018900 Rubbish
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Won't everyone just have to eat each other?


If you can read this, your too close to society.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:58 | 3018626 Yen Cross
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 We aren't mad. The people that make decisions are corrupt.

  It's nothing new...  it just happens faster< Exponentially>

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:59 | 3018629 Silver Shield
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My second exposure on ZeroHedge outside of the comment box!


Check out this hilarious video from Louie CK called Real Money and Real Problems

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:18 | 3018686 The Shootist
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"Throws a general amount of money on the table, and takes a deep swig of beer."

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:00 | 3018791 Cathartes Aura
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that link had some genuinely funny observations.

I clicked through to this, and was pleasantly surprised to find some folks with critical thinking skills, unafraid of going against the relentless tide. . .

haven't looked into all their "stance" but it's good to know some are out there.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:41 | 3019024 Mr Pink
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Silver Shield huh? Could you be the one and only Chris Duane?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:43 | 3019030 Tsunami Wave
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Nice to hear from ya Chris Duane... but please tell me right now....... what's the real reason marijuana is kept illegal?!?! You never got back to us with a TruthNeverTold video on that. That, and how perscription drug/anti-depressant/mood-stabilizers/other drugs affect people now and after the impending paradigm shift.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:11 | 3019090 Shizzmoney
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what's the real reason marijuana is kept illegal?!?!

I always go with what williambonzai7 says: it makes one think more and it decreases the urge to be a incoherent consumerist driven zombie

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 00:26 | 3022798 Cathartes Aura
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not necessarily - insights are only as good as the mind "having" them, and many folks combine their substances with little respect. 

the reasons, if you look into the history, have more to do with those age old suppressions of truth:

profit. and competition.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 17:59 | 3018630 jmcadg
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More good work SGT.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:00 | 3018633 eaglerock
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After watching the video I had a strong urge to stick a sharp object in my ear to take my mind off the pain.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:16 | 3018678 camaro68ss
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I just had the urge to buy more ammo, silver, and food

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:59 | 3019430 Weyland_Yutani
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I called my local precious metal dealer and placed an order for 50 ounces of silver. Picking it up tomorrow.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:01 | 3018639 edifice
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This is what a Roman-style collapse looks like. Get ready for the New Dark Ages.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:43 | 3018748 inevitablecollapse
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Lyrics by Bad Religion:

Yeah can you hear the call in our rambling land susurrations,
That can expand beyond all hope of light and plunge us into unrelenting night

A pall on truth and reason,
It feels like hunting season
So avoid those lines of sight and we'll set this right

Welcome to the new dark ages
I hope you're living right
These are the new dark ages
And the world might end tonight

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:01 | 3018641 I am Jobe
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wait there a few more days left before Christmas, need more phones and more crap. Inbred fucks are being conditoned to be killed.


Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:28 | 3018703 ArrestBobRubin
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Fattened up piggies, on the way to be slaughtered by the Butchers...

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:04 | 3018648 jumbo maverick
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"Daddy why are there bad guys in the world?"
Today my kid told me they had a lockdown drill at their school. They pile all the desks in front of th classroom door and wait for the bad guy to come. This is 6th graders. He told me that he stood off to the side and put a bunch of pencils in between his fingers to punch the " bad guy" in the face if need be.
He told me several of the sheeple( and he used the word sheeple) stood directly in front of the door trying to look out. He knows about the fatal funnel and he and the teacher told the kids get away from the door but they just stood there like sheeple.
We have millions of sheeple in this world that can't see the bad guys coming.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:05 | 3018804 Cathartes Aura
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and in the 50's the skoolkids had drills for hiding under their desks, rehearsing the Russian's nuking their towns.

*duck 'n' cover*

might be better to not send kids to these institutional instruction zones, avoid the trauma dreams, and their eventual real-isations over time.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:39 | 3019020 Dr. Sandi
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It's more efficient when attempting to identify the bodies if they're all neatly lined up under desks. No piles of mixed remains that way.

That's in the places where the desks weren't already vaporized.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 00:52 | 3019417 FeralSerf
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I remember doing that in grammar school.  It also taught us what bad people the commie Ruskies were.   Then when Vietnam came along, we all understood the domino theory and how important it was to stop the commies before they got to America.

The commies wanted America more than anything because we had cars and refrigerators and they didn't.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:01 | 3022441 debtandtaxes
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They have our children. And we just hand them to the state for 6 hours a day, 5 days a week.

My 6 yr old is learning that it's *our* fault global warming is Canada.

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 00:36 | 3022814 Cathartes Aura
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I highly recommend you NOT let a government get hold of your child's mind.

Canada has a very healthy "unschool" movement going - search it - and I can absolutely recommend this author:

Grace Llewellyn:  The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School and Get a Real Life and Education

it's more for older kids/teens, but you'll get the ideas nonetheless.  don't let your kids be indoctrinated, and realise you can un-learn your "lessons" if you spend more time with them, seeing the world through their eyes. . .

oh, and it goes without saying, ditch the TV too.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:08 | 3018658 Yen Cross
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 Who in their sane mind would approve Marc Karney, to replace Mervyn the swerve King, for ( CEO of BOE)?

   Junk Me if I'm wrong?  Tell me why? Canada is awesome on Natural resources!   We all know what is happening!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:37 | 3018733 CCanuck
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Does it have to be qualified with sane? I can name some, wait, a whole fucn bunch of insane that would invite the squid to the party. but no sane, logical, or critical thinking person or entity would do it.

What do you see for US/CND 3months..6months YC? 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:41 | 3019026 Dr. Sandi
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Insane would be thinking that the people who put Carney in charge of the BOE give a smidge of a rat's arse what is good for anybody but themselves.

It's evil, don't touch it.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:10 | 3018663 ArrestBobRubin
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If you really want to know how we wound up as a "Lost Society", you need to face up to who "Lost" us. It's not like it happened by accident. It's the legacy of the Federal Reserve Act and the traitorous Fifth Column who rammed it down our throats. It's the legacy of the Coup of 11/22/63, when the last President with the stones to do something about the conspirators had his head blown off in broad daylight. It's the legacy of 9/11/2001 and how the events of that day were used to mask crimes and justify tyranny and war mongering.

We didn't get here by accident. We got "Lost" by design.

Brzezinski: US must stop following Israel “like a stupid mule”

Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

"....By denying any US “obligation” to “follow like a stupid mule whatever the Israelis do,” Brzezinski accurately implied that this is exactly what the US has been doing up until now. And by plaintively opining that “the United States has the right to have its own national security policy,” the former National Security Adviser underlined the fact that since the assassination of John F. Kennedy, who secretly went to war with Ben Gurion in a doomed effort to abort the Israeli nuclear weapons program, the US has not enjoyed that right.

Brzezinski’s assertion that the US is being led by the nose like a stupid mule by the Israelis is perhaps the most candid statement of its kind ever uttered in public by a high-level US strategist. Brzezinski’s remarks reflect the mainstreaming of the arguments presented by leading US political scientists Walt and Mearsheimer in their book The Israel Lobby.

Indeed, Brzezinski has gone much further than Walt and Mearsheimer, who couch their critique of the tail-wags-the-dog US-Israel relationship in extremely cautious language. By laying it out so explicitly, Brzezinski is in effect joining the ranks of such scholars as James Petras and Grant Smith, who leave Walt and Mearsheimer in the dust as they boldly and accurately describe the outrageous, destructive, and quite literally criminal Israeli domination of the US. (As Smith argues in Foreign Agents, the hundreds of thousands of members of the Zionist Power Configuration described by Petras are acting as unregistered agents of a foreign power; if the law were properly enforced, they would all be in prison.)..."  Contd

If you want Real, not fluff, it's right there for you.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:53 | 3018772 Bay of Pigs
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+1 Bob,

I doubt this article would go over well over at TFMR.

AIPAC's claws run so deep into the US gov't it's beyond most peoples comprehension level. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:01 | 3018796 Salah
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This is bullshit.  JFK was killed because he axed Allen Dulles' abortive Bay of Pigs fiasco with zero US naval support, thus allowing the commies to takeover Cuba, and sending a message to the Soviets that the new American Prez was a pussy.  Emboldened, they ratcheted up the whole deal with nuclear missiles, that brought us to the brink of N-war in October '62.  The decision was made that Kennedy and his lineage-in-waiting had to go.

As for our debt-fueled, consumerist madness all being orchestrated by "old world banking families" who want to depopulate Planet Earth....ask yourself, "Why in the fuck are they trying to save the rotten corpse of Europe as fast as they can?  especially if it's some grand master plan for chaos and destruction?"  Shouldn't they be trying to drop-kick the whole Rube Goldberg assembly into the sea as soon as possible? 

And let's not forget the old standby, tried and true, when all else fails...blame the Jews.  Oh wow, how fucking convenient is that artifice? 

Dude, you got too much time on your hands to indulge in this kind of paranoia.  If it all comes unraveled like a cheap Soviet suit, it won't be for any of the reasons these guy give, especially the conspiratorial ones.  It will just be of its own inertia, and the real root cause will be what it always is: human folly.



Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:10 | 3018823 Bay of Pigs
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LOL. That didn't take long. 

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 10:20 | 3023394 Random
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There are people around saying the JFK wasn't murdered at all and you have to look no further to find him than Carter (complete with Jacqueline and the kids). Regardless if this is true or not JFK image is just that, a manufactured image. He was just as fucked up as all his predecessors and subsequent US presidents, a murdering mother fucker and a rag for all kind of smaller or bigger interests. Fuck him and his alleged high horse.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:16 | 3018674 woggie
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the beast is on the gobble
and all that matters is we're all headed for it's belly

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:17 | 3018680 Dick Fitz
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Terrifying. Thank God Ron Paul woke my family up to these dangers.

The breakdown will be terrifying no matter how prepared you are.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:22 | 3018692 The Shootist
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More crazy than the Matrix, bitchez! I remain unconvinced about 9/11 as Islamofascism is quite real, demented, and virulent.


All I can say is, "Don't tax me, bro!"

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:57 | 3018775 ArrestBobRubin
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Who cares what you think about 9/11? If you don't get it by now, there's little hope you ever will.

You need to think in terms of proportionality of threat...

Did Islam have anything to do with the creation of the Fed in 1913?

Was it "Islamists" who off-shored most of the good manufacturing and other jobs in this country in something they cooked up and called "globalization"?

How many Fed chairs have been Mohammedans?

Was it Moslems who lied us into any of several wars of the 20th C?

Is Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein or any of our other sick crime kingpins Islamic?

How many poisonous brain-destroying "media outlets" and filth-producing hollywood studios are Moslem owned and run?

Is Monsanto an Islamic family name?

Point is, if you feel the Jewish media creation known by some as "Islamophobia" poses "X" threat to your nation, livliehood and future, by definition you MUST rate the threat posed by the Real Terrorists as infinitely greater. Or not, but that would make you a brain dead dumbfuck.

Mostly you need to stop getting your "news" from Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. I hear there are 12 step programs for that particular sickness.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:09 | 3018813 The Shootist
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Thanks for putting that together. I don't think the threat of Islamofascism is necessarily greater than the national debt, corrupt banksters, the Fed, the global elite, or fiat money. I'm just not dismissing that they really do want to spread their zealous religion by the sword. They intend to take it all over, the "diversity uber alles" crowd will either bow before them or piss their pants when confronted by jihadists. 9/11 to me is a puzzle, it's not clear, most historical events are not. However, the needle (maybe 55%) tips it to me believing the "general" narrative. Are there other motives behind the scenes? Certainly. Are arab dictators a good scapegoat for war? Certainly. It's a mirky series of events and I only believe that America should bring its guns home to fight the commies that are also taking over the country. It's a very bleak picture I'm afraid, and I don't think 9/11 is preponderant.

I don't think there's a terrorist around every tree, unless of course you're talking about Fed governors and paper pushers.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:02 | 3018944 Voltaire
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Our jewish "friends" are putting the West up against the muslim world for one final battle. Making us fight their wars as always. Except this time it will not be some small trip to Iraq or Afghanistan but something far more severe as it will reach europe in it's backyard trough the tens of millions of muslim immigrants there. Israel is making sure Europe won't interfere with it's plans in the middle east as the old continent will be in a state of civil war. They will be able to say "see, what we are up against, now you get a taste", knowing perfectly well that the mass immigration policies were lobbied forcefully by jewish intellectuals, journalists and politicians during decades. We are going to live in interesting times. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:19 | 3018979 The Shootist
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Yeah maybe so. But you only have as much actual evidence as the intellectuals claiming shit on Ancient Aliens.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:44 | 3019033 Dr. Sandi
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Ancient JEWISH Aliens were behind all that is bad.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:27 | 3018698 reader2010
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When the military meets its Waterloo, the whole fucking thing will collapse. Not before that event IMHO.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:41 | 3018744 Darkness
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I downvoted you because i don't even know where to begin responding to your comment... I am sorry you don't understand the real world at all. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:13 | 3018834 reader2010
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That's OK. Reality is an illusion as Einstein used to say. I hope you do understand what you said you understand.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:29 | 3018704 President Palin
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Well done, SGT.  I appreciate all that you do in an attempt to wake up humanity.

God help us.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:32 | 3018715 Yen Cross
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  Hopefully you had more than one constituent?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:34 | 3018721 lynnybee
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double congrats from me, too, SGT.  SGT REPORTS is super!   citizen journalists & truth tellers are the heros.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:36 | 3018729 Thomas Jefferson
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Had a good practice run living in the aftermath of Sandy.  It isn't fun but I now know what my limits are.

One thing is for sure.  You do not want to be a strange face in the neighborhood after collapse.  Its like having a bulls eye on your back.  Keep that in mind for all those thinking about moving to Costa Rica.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:43 | 3018749 IamtheREALmario
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... and so if we all mistrust and hate each other and rip each other apart, even without a financial collapse or WWII, then those pulling on the puppets' strings will have achieved their goals while still remaining in the shadows.

It is easy to see one level deep into the deception, but how about 2, 3 or 4???

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:44 | 3018754 BlackholeDivestment
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LMAO, well at least they got ''by design'' right, lmao, but they do not deserve to even mention the word ''Biblical'' in a video that ends with a 666 SIRIUS DICK AT THE END!!! 

 God in Christ the mirror, by all means, PROVE IT!!! Prove that you are not the Black Hole. Are you going to drink the wine of wrath in the BTFD Cup of Fornication and mock the aborted Black Friday girls and boys in your belly by escaping judgment and your own death? LMAO. You movie boys better come up with a better script quick, ...bitchez.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:47 | 3018759 Thomas Jefferson
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I am going to have to double my seizure medication before I try to understand what you just wrote.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:09 | 3018787 BlackholeDivestment
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When did you die, Mr. Jefferson? LMAO. 

Wait a Second, Siriusly, LMAO, the ''New Secular Order'', umm, ''In (g)od We Trust'', is in the ''Oval Office'' and painted inside the Capitol Temple Dome, AKA the womb of $, oops ''ISIS''. OK, LMAO, I see the black hole, AKA ''DEATH'' of the ''New Secular Order'' ''(g)od''. Oh, how, LMAO, charming. Yeah riiight, Independence Day is when you die, LMAO, and hang out with the ''(g)ods''. Bla haa haa haa. What a bunch of Tricky Dickheads. Yeah, umm, there's a Suicide Vampire Squid mirror image that is defining an U.N.Sealed host, yuh just can't see it. Ah  haa haa haa haa haa.



Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:52 | 3018771 Henry Hub
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Better lay off the bath salts.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:37 | 3019250 BlackholeDivestment
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...while your flesh is being consumed, you shall discover the answer to the question ''who is eating my face?'', wont you? Ah haa haa haa haa haaa. 'Til then, you just stick right here in the Fight Club, ah haa haa haa. Don't mind the smoke coming from your face, bla ha haa haa, O'Henry, bla haa haa haa, and try not to trip over Sodom of Hussien's wedding dress there Candy O, it's not like it's too short.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:50 | 3018763 Henry Hub
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I've been prepping for a while now. Every week I buy an extra case of Gin. I'm shooting for fifty cases. After that I'll start stocking on the other stuff. What is it now? Oh yeah, food, water and ammo. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:58 | 3018782 BlueCollaredOne
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White liquor is for rich white women on diets

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:24 | 3018861 Henry Hub
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I plan to invite some "rich white women on diets" into my bunker when the SHTF. Everyone else will be staring at the double barrels of my twelve gage!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 02:45 | 3019564 Lord Koos
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Rich white women generally aren't very handy around the place.

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 10:18 | 3023388 flapdoodle
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Yum... rich white women with fava beans!

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:58 | 3018785 BlueCollaredOne
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White liquor is for rich white women on diets

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:49 | 3018764 fleur de lis
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What I would like to know is what happens to all the bastards--and bitches--who brought us to this point. Do they get rounded up and shot dead or do they escape to live another day and do it to us all over again?

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:59 | 3018789 spastic_colon
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they will be long gone and broadcasting from another country/cave/bunker

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:26 | 3018865 steelhead23
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I believe the view is that the New World Order would be a police state in which the wealthy enjoy all the prerogatives and we bend to the whip.  A point, partly made by the film is that this is not something that is yet to come - it is coming (TSA, FISA, NDAA, etc.) and will become much worse.  The wealthy would live in castles, guarded by moats and knights, while we toil in their fields.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:47 | 3019041 Dr. Sandi
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Thoe bastards and bitches who brought us here will mostly be the ones who 'deliver' us after the implosion. And we will be so grateful for their leadership that we will help them 'rebuild' a better and brighter world on the rubble of the previous one they helped us build.

It will be glorious, and we, the sheeple, will bleat in gratitude.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 18:58 | 3018780 bshirley1968
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Huxley missed it by some 1900 years as the Bible has already predicted a one world order and a one world ruler.  As always never wrong and ALWAYS up to date.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:02 | 3018800 spastic_colon
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"....the banners have all flown in the last war...."

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:12 | 3022455 debtandtaxes
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Predicting one world order/ruler is not clairvoyance. It is the simple, necessary end result of fractional reserve banking. They lend out more than they have in the vault thereby making whatever profits from interest they decide. With their profits they each buy all assets - including each other - until only a few own all assets.

If noone insists they lend only what they own, this is inevitable.

In Canada Paul Martin eradicated capital reserves for banks. Since 2001(ish) Canadian banks need not hold ANY capital to lend out. They just add zeros to your bank account when the bank has nothing in the vault. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:17 | 3018842 steelhead23
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Bernaise would be proud.  Yes, I consider this film to be propaganda.  Why, because it uses imagery to create frames of fear.  "The gubbermint wants a new world order."  "The rich want to have you for breakfast." etc.  Look, I share a bit of this fear, but hyping the fear without either a reasonable level of informative discussion, or recommended links to such information - is propaganda.

Further, I am perplexed by the side-taking or group identity aspect of discussions of economics/finance.  Some of you likely read Naked Capitalism where Yves Smith and the likes of Michael Hudson take a decidedly different perspective on the issue of debt and deficit spending than say, the likes of Karl Denninger, or Ron Paul.  Who's right.  Hellifiknow.  Frankly, given the diametrically opposed lines of thinking today on the blogosphere, I would really love to know what the risks of each camp are.  For example, Austerians believe that it is imperative that we reduce or eliminate budget deficits and actually work on reducing the national debt in order to encourage the creation of capital (savings) and confidence in financial instruments, etc.   The result of acting under this assumption would be that people, particularly poor people would suffer (hence the anti-austerity movement - OWS).  But, if we adopted MMT and its view that deficits are necessary to maintain demand and employment.  Acting under this assumption could (take your pick): destroy the currency, cause inflation, diminish confidence in markets, etc.  Because we can't, in advance, truly know the outcome of a policy, from my perspective, it would make a lot of sense to spend a bit of energy (hello post-doc candidate) detailing the warts of each camp so society could judge the risks prior to taking any radical course of action.  

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:20 | 3018847 bshirley1968
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"Freedom" hasn't "reigned" in this society since Lincoln kick the crap out of the South.  This is a culmination of a corrupted, centralized government that cannot be stopped.  There will be no pieces to pick up because the pieces will be controlled and manipulated into the position the one world order will demand.

This idea that you or any of us are going to prepare and ride this out and there will be light at the end of the tunnel is a bunch of bs.  This next big crisis this video describes will be controlled and used to enslave what freedom there is left in this world.  Go ahead and store up a bunch of stuff like some boyscout.  All you are doing is stacking and organizing for those who will come and take it from you.  Your only choice when this happens will be to bow or die.  There will be no independence or freedom or survival.  All the goobers on this video are small thinkers at best.  You will bow to the will of the head of the collective or you will be consumed by the collective.  No hold-outs, no independence, no self reliance, etc.  There will be no brave new world.  There will be no utopia of freedom somewhere in the world like they have in all the doomsday movies.  There will be only oppression and slavery and you will keep your head down and do what you are told or they will just kill you or work you to death.  Hell, its about like that right now.

This country has had its fun and now we are going to pay for it.  Somebody has to live during those days and suffer the sins of their fathers.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:23 | 3018856 1000924014093
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You will bow to the will of the head of the collective or you will be consumed by the collective. 

Speak for yourself, Sunshine.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:42 | 3018899 bshirley1968
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Then you will die.

Freedom requires a willingness to die.  If you want freedom, then you must be willing to die to have it.  That is ONLY way it is obtained and the is the ONLY way it is kept.

Not saying you will bow or that I will bow.  But the alternative is death (fast or slow).  You think you could make it like Jeremiah Johnson?  As tough as I would like to think I am, I don't think I could make it in the mountains.  No body is going to sit on a sack of beans and rice and watch the rest of the world fall apart.  You and your AR and your buddies with their ARs is not going to amount to a hill of beans when the SHTF like this video describes.

We don't need to to be getting ready for the end of the "world's reserve currency", we need to find some men who swore allegance to the Constitution and start it up now while we still have some choices and resources.  The longer we wait the more the advantage goes to them.  If you CAN see the end, and it ends like this video suggest, then we need to find a drastic way to change the ending.  Lets die while it is still our choice and not theirs.

Get some of that!  Saddle your asses up and lets get some now.  Can't see how?  Well if you can't see a path now when things are calm and you have time and energy to think, then you damn sure won't be able to do anything meaningful then.

I hate to see this happen just like any other REAL American hates it.  But to say we can ride it out to a better world on the other side is BULL SHIT!!!  It wasn't a better world before the USA and it damn sure won't be a better world when the USA falls apart .....EVER AGAIN.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:25 | 3022487 debtandtaxes
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On a long enough timeline....

When we die is not the issue. The issue is whether we will die with dignity - and what that means for *you*.

For most of us it means protecting something or someone precious. Some will do that in battle. Others will do that in safehouses. Some will live in the "masters house" and use their influence to try to save a few lives. Others will sit on a bag of beans in the mountains keeping a few people fed and providing a sanctuary for hunted dissidents. We may not agree with how some try to die with dignity / live their lives. But if we have the same goals we are all working together.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:39 | 3018891 fleur de lis
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I will not bow to any shit ass collective. And I will spit at anyone who asks me to do so. We have a bought-off Congress and all the lazy DC politicos for the collective kowtow dance -- they bow down and roll around like mangy dogs for the sacred collective commissars all the time because it's where they get their loot. 

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:49 | 3019045 Dr. Sandi
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This his how 'they' select their first round of targets.

Better to bite your tongue and grind your teeth until you can get a good head shot from a quiet, unhurried location. Preferably from the back.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:19 | 3019107 fleur de lis
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Thanks. Good advice. 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 02:47 | 3019568 Lord Koos
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"Freedom" hasn't "reigned" in this society since Lincoln kick the crap out of the South.  


Unless you were a slave...  yeah, they built that.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:26 | 3018868 PGR88
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I don't disagree with their basic points about fiat currency and dependency, but otherwise this video was just a string of cliches

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:47 | 3018912 The Shootist
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Most of his videos are. Don't back up the truck when SGT says silver will be $200 tomorrow.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:28 | 3018872 Aurora Ex Machina
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.


Look up tonight, at the full moon - for the last five hours, in our time zones, it has had a bright satellite star orbiting clockwise. There was briefly a polar opposite, it faded in the last two hours.

I will give you those things you thought unreal, The sun, the moon, the stars all bear my seal

Only kidding.  Next try? Nope. Closer. Even closer. Getting there. All inclusive. A bit of melancholy.


Let's make it more modern



Don't worry, I'm sure we can work it all out.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:07 | 3019080 rsnoble
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Yeah an hour ago I was on the bluff on my 4 wheeler drinking a beer looking at it. Now im on the internet listening to the end of the world lol.  Thinking about going back.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 21:50 | 3019164 Cathartes Aura
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mmmmmm, thx for the full moon serenade. . . sufficiently lost for an hour or so, if counting. . .

as this thread is coming to a stop.

I'll bounce a couple back, with above ground descriptives, pick 'n' choose.


Virgin Prunes ~ Sweet Home Under White Clouds

My Bloody Valentine ~ Map Ref. 41N 93W

Savages ~ Husbands


really makes me long for there, even though it's not there any more. . .

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:02 | 3019188 Aurora Ex Machina
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I will embrace all of your three casted in their entirety, a triptych, so thank you.


The fading of the polar opposite; it will come full next moon, and then we can dance.


*Happy Campers*

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:21 | 3019212 Cathartes Aura
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I'm already practising.  always have been.

the next full moon comes with sharp cardinal square, and opposites not so attractive for some.  it's fitting.

It's not hard to see another unique event
When you miss the beginning and you miss the end

Wire ~ 40 Versions

In between are where only edges can be seen of the spaces


this one stands alone, from the beginning.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 23:19 | 3019226 tip e. canoe
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hot off the fryer & into the sunspot w/ visual companion (don't forget to mute this one)

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