Doug Casey: The US Is Now The United (Police) State Of America

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Submitted by Doug Casey of Casey Research,

Louis: Doug, after conversations like the one we had last week, we often get letters from angry readers who accuse you of hating America, disloyalty, and perhaps even treason. These people don't know or understand what I do about you – that you love the idea that was America. It's the United State it has become for which you have nothing but contempt. Perhaps we should try to explain this to them?

Doug: I doubt it would work; it's a tough row to hoe, trying to explain things to people who are so set in their thinking that they truly and literally don't want to hear anything that might threaten their notions. A person who feels threatened by ideas and who responds with emotion is acting irrationally. How can we have a discussion with someone whose emotion trumps their reason? How do we even begin to untangle the thinking of people who will gather this week to give thanks for the bounty produced by freedom and hard work – the famous puritan work ethic – by eating a turkey bought with food stamps?

But we can outline the ideas, for the record.

Louis: I'll bring a copy if they ever do put you on trial for thoughtcrime – which is frighteningly close to being real these days and called treason to boot.

Doug: It's not just close; it's here. Just try telling an unapproved joke in a security line in an airport these days.

Louis: True enough. Where to begin?

Doug: At the beginning. America was founded as a confederation of independent countries – that's what a state is. Or was, in our language. The original United States of America was a confederation of countries that banded together for protection against larger and more powerful countries they feared might be hostile. This is not a disputed interpretation of history, but as solid a fact as the study of history produces – and yet a largely neglected one.

Louis: We did cover this ground briefly in our conversations on the Civil War and the Constitution.

Doug: So we did... the short version being that the US Constitution was essentially a coup; the delegates to what we now call the Constitutional Convention were not empowered to replace the existing government – only to improve upon the Articles of Confederation between the then-independent states. The framers of the Constitution drafted it with the notion of a national government already in place, but calmed fears of loss of state sovereignty by calling the new government the "United States of America" – a verbal sleight of hand that worked for over half a century. Then the southern states decided to exercise what these words imply, their right to leave the union. While slavery was and is a wholesale criminal activity I object to in every way possible, the southern states did have the right to secede, both legally and ethically. But the question was settled by force, not reason, and the wrong side won.

Louis: Another coup?

Doug: More like an exposure of the first one for the whole world to see. But by then it was way too late. Despite this, the relative freedom of the US – because it was for many years far freer than other countries – made it possible for artists, engineers, inventors, and businesspeople to flourish and create a society more wealthy and powerful than any the world had ever seen. This is what I call the idea of America – the America That Was.

But the seeds of destruction were already sown at the very beginning – with the Alien and Sedition Acts being perhaps the first highly visible step in the wrong direction. Then came the forceful assertion of one national government, with states reduced to administrative regions via the War of Southern Secession, from 1861-'65. I'm no fan of state governments, incidentally, but at least they're smaller and closer to their subjects than the federal government. Another major step in the wrong direction occurred with the Spanish-American War of 1898, where the US acquired an overseas empire by force. The next major step downhill was the creation of the Federal Reserve and the income tax, both in 1913, just in time for World War I. It took time for these things to make the system crash, because it was still a fairly free economy.

Louis: But crash it did in 1929…

Doug: Yes. And it led to the Great Depression of 1929-'46, which lasted so long entirely because of the unmitigated disaster of the New Deal (which we discussed recently). The New Deal injected socialist-fascist ideas into mainstream American thought like a poisonous acid, corrupting the heart of the idea of America that once made the place great. The process was completed with Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, which really established the basis of the welfare-warfare state. It truly set the stage for the total ethical, economic, social, political, and even military disaster now unfolding before our eyes.

Still, the beating heart of the idea of America – which is to say both social and economic freedom – took time to corrupt. Like a strong man who doesn't know he's headed for a heart attack, American culture didn't really peak until the 1950s. The bullet-finned 1959 Cadillac is a symbol of this peak, in my mind.

Louis: Then we had Johnson and his "guns and butter" policy – War in Vietnam and War on Poverty at the same time – followed by tricky Dick kicking the last leg out of under the stool by taking the dollar off an even theoretical gold standard.

Doug: Yes. Nixon was arguably even a worse president than Johnson, with the devaluation of the dollar in 1971 and his creation of the War on Drugs. Things have spiraled out of control since then. In The Casey Report, we've written reams about these last decades and how they led to and shaped what's happening now. But I have to say, the focus has been largely financial.

Louis: Which is as it should be, in a publication designed to help investors navigate these turbulent times.

Doug: Yes, but the corruption goes way beyond that, beyond even the senseless wars and idiotic foreign policy we discussed last week. America, once the land of the brave and the home of the free, is well on its way to becoming a police state – worse than any we've seen in the past, including the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

Louis: How could it get worse than that?

Doug: Because Big Brother has better technology now, allowing possible manipulation and control of the population that Stalin and Hitler never dreamed of. And because the US used to be such a great place, a lot of people have been tricked into believing it's the same as it was. But there's no more resemblance between the America of old and the US of today than there was between the Rome of the Republic and the Rome of the later emperors. Furthermore, most Americans have conflated the government with society. They're not only different things, but often antithetical.

Louis: I thought you said you're an optimist!

Doug: I am. But that's for the survivors who make it through the wringer the global economy – and every person on this planet – is about to go through. I keep telling you that the coming Greater Depression is going to be even worse than I think it is. You may think I'm joking, but I'm not. I do think that, primarily for reasons we discussed in our conversation on technology, what comes next will not only be even better than I imagine, it will be better than I can imagine… but first we have to go through the wringer. I see no way around it. I truly don't.

Louis: Okay, I know you believe that. Can you substantiate the police-state claim?

Doug: Well, rather than give you anecdotal evidence – of which there are masses more each day – let me refer to a rather perceptive blog post by a George Washington law professor named Jonathan Turley, titled 10 Reasons Why the US Is No Longer the Land of the Free. I'm sure I don't see everything the way the professor does, but the list struck me as quite accurate and very important for people to understand.

Louis: I'm sure I don't want to hear this, but okay, shoot.

Doug: [Chuckles] Maybe you don't, but I know you value the truth. These points underline something I've said for years: the Bill of Rights is a completely dead letter. It's essentially meaningless and rarely even gets the benefit of lip service. Quoting it will result in derision, if not arrest as a dangerous radical.

Frankly, I didn't think the civil liberties situation could get worse than it was under Cheney-Bush, but it has. Obama has repealed none of what they did – and added more. So, let's go through the list. First:

Assassination of US citizens: "President Obama has claimed, as President George W. Bush did before him, the right to order the killing of any citizen considered a terrorist or an abettor of terrorism."

Of course the very concept of terrorism is highly malleable, with over 100 definitions floating about – as we've discussed. But apart from that, it's now accepted that the president and his minions have the right to kill almost anyone. This conceit will get completely out of control after the next real or imagined major terrorist incident.

Louis: This reminds me of the extraordinary powers given to government agents to battle the War On Some Drugs – like the RICO statutes – which have now been turned against ordinary citizens who have nothing to do with the drug trade.

Doug: Exactly. Once you give the state a power – for whatever good reason you imagine it needs it – it will use that power for whatever those in charge feel is in their interests. And those in charge are never saints.


Indefinite detention: "Under the law signed last month, terrorism suspects are to be held by the military; the president also has the authority to indefinitely detain citizens accused of terrorism."

This was a precedent set by Guantánamo, where scores of the accused continue to rot without even a kangaroo-court trial.

Arbitrary justice: "The president now decides whether a person will receive a trial in the federal courts or in a military tribunal, a system that has been ridiculed around the world for lacking basic due process protections. Bush claimed this authority in 2001, and Obama has continued the practice."

As the government becomes more powerful, it's completely predictable that everything – including the justice system – will become ever more politicized. And government very rarely relinquishes a power it's gained. I particularly like the Supreme Court ruling in April 2012 that allows anyone who's arrested for anything – including littering or jaywalking – to be strip-searched.

Louis: Note to readers: you can't hear Doug's voice, but I assure you that his use of the word "like" is sarcastic.

Doug: Just so. Moving right along:

Warrantless searches: "The president may now order warrantless surveillance, including a new capability to force companies and organizations to turn over information on citizens' finances, communications and associations. Bush acquired this sweeping power under the Patriot Act in 2001, and in 2011, Obama extended the power, including searches of everything from business documents to library records."

Privacy is now a completely dead concept, from both a legal and a practical point of view. If you want to retain privacy, you now have no alternative to relocating outside the US.

Louis: Or any advanced Western country. I've read that there are more surveillance cameras per square mile in London than anywhere else.

Doug: I've heard that too. The opposite being true in rural Argentina is one of the things I like about it. Back to the list:

Secret evidence: "The government now routinely uses secret evidence to detain individuals and employs secret evidence in federal and military courts. It also forces the dismissal of cases against the United States by simply filing declarations that the cases would make the government reveal classified information that would harm national security…"

"National security" essentially amounts to nothing more than government security, which amounts to cover for the individuals in the government. Nazi Germany and the USSR were national-security states. As I've tried to explain in the past, once a critical mass is reached, it's impossible to reform a government. I believe we've reached that state in the US.

War crimes: "The world clamored for prosecutions of those responsible for waterboarding terrorism suspects during the Bush administration, but the Obama administration said in 2009 that it would not allow CIA employees to be investigated or prosecuted for such actions. This gutted not just treaty obligations but the Nuremberg principles of international law."

Torture by field operatives under the stress of combat is one thing; torture as official policy is something else again. But torture is now accepted in the US. Worse, there are far more serious war crimes than torture being committed in the name of the US that are going unpunished.

Louis: This is, after all, a far darker version of the same US government that deliberately infected black US citizens with syphilis just to see what would happen, and sent US citizens of Japanese descent to concentration camps during WWII.

Doug: Exactly. The next point is:

Secret court: "The government has increased its use of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has expanded its secret warrants to include individuals deemed to be aiding or abetting hostile foreign governments or organizations. In 2011, Obama renewed these powers, including allowing secret searches of individuals who are not part of an identifiable terrorist group."

You no longer live in a free country when there's zero privacy for citizens, but 100% secrecy for the government and those it employs.

Immunity from judicial review: "Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration has successfully pushed for immunity for companies that assist in warrantless surveillance of citizens, blocking the ability of citizens to challenge the violation of privacy."

The government has outsourced some of its functions – not least the use of contractors in war zones. Increasingly, being associated with the government gives you a "get out of jail free" card. In the USSR they called this a "krisha" – a roof.

Continual monitoring of citizens: "The Obama administration has successfully defended its claim that it can use GPS devices to monitor every move of targeted citizens without securing any court order or review."

Bad as this is, it's just one example. There's also the use of domestic drones, and hundreds of thousands of cameras that take pictures of everyone everywhere.

Extraordinary renditions: "The government now has the ability to transfer both citizens and noncitizens to another country under a system known as extraordinary rendition, which has been denounced as using other countries, such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan, to torture suspects."

Yes, if someone is kidnapped, there's plausible deniability if the torturing is done abroad by a third party. And they're likely to have even fewer compunctions.

Louis: That's a pretty depressing list, Doug.

Doug: And this is just the beginning. As I've said before, I don't call the shots – just try to tell the truth as I see it. The point is that you couldn't assemble a list like this even 15 years ago. But now it's part of the firmament. Worse, it's going to grow. As the economy turns down over the next few years, the people – acting like scared chimpanzees – will ask the government to "do something." And it will. The trend is going hyperbolic.

Louis: I can't argue… and I agree it is not likely to be stopped. So if this is a sure trend, are there investment implications?

Doug: This just goes to reinforce what I've been saying for some time. As great as a US citizen's risk is in the marketplace these days, the greatest single risk to their wealth and health is the government. People simply must internationalize to diversify their political risk. I can't stress that strongly enough.

Louis: Would you go so far as to say that being a taxpayer in the US now is like being a Jew in Germany in the mid-1930s?

Doug: That's a good analogy. It's costly and upsetting to uproot, but the risk if you don't is unimaginably worse. And I would warn people in other countries to take the same precautions. All of these nation-states are dying dinosaurs that will cause a lot of damage as they thrash about in their death throes. No place is completely safe, but you improve your odds by not putting your eggs all in one basket.

Louis: Okay, I guess we've covered that plenty of times. Is there a "police-state play" – any investments one could make before the new Iron Curtain slams down? Handcuff manufacturers?

Doug: Nah – they have those plastic zip-binder things now; they're so cheap that I doubt the manufacturer can even make big money in volume. But I do remember a speech I attended in the '90s given by William Bennett, the ex-Drug Czar, who recommended investing in prisons. I excoriated him as a sociopath at that meeting – but he was right. However, that ship has sailed; it's hard to believe the US can incarcerate more than the current 2.3 million people. Besides, I find it morally offensive to capitalize on what I consider to be criminal enterprises. No, for now the only absolutely crystal-clear imperative is as above: You've got to have a Plan B ready in case you need to get out of Dodge – and you need it pronto.

And to those who celebrate Thanksgiving, I urge you to remember that it was hard work and the freedom to profit from it that created the bounty the pilgrims celebrated. It was this enterprising spirit and the liberty to exercise it that was the heart of the idea of the America That Was – the idea that made America great. Those corrupt politicians who have been undermining these values for so long and the willfully ignorant ideologues who support them are responsible for turning this country into the United (Police) State of America. They should be criticized and opposed at every opportunity.

Louis: Okay, Doug. Thanks for another challenging but enlightening conversation.

Doug: My pleasure.

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Insideher Trading's picture

98% of black women disagree with you Doug.

Perhaps you're just racist.

oh, and the comment about buying a turkey with food stamps was off color and bigoted.

Michaelwiseguy's picture

Not so fast Doug, your hopes and dreams are crashing down.

A person who feels threatened by ideas and who responds with emotion is acting irrationally. How can we have a discussion with someone whose emotion trumps their reason?

Government employees need Role Models. Here's the newest Role Model Sensation;

Here's how we did it Doug;

‘First Amendment Cop’ Becomes Internet Icon

Paul Joseph Watson November 29, 2012

“I am supposed to protect the Constitution,” says Deputy Sheriff Lenic

Deputy Sheriff Stan Lenic, the cop who stood up for the First Amendment by refusing to impede the free speech rights of activists at Albany International Airport, has become an Internet icon, with messages of support flooding in to the Albany County Sheriff’s Office and Lenic being honored with a commendation.

A video that has now gone viral on You Tube shows Lenic refusing to follow the demands of Albany Airport’s PR director Doug Myers in having activists Jason Bermas and Ashley Jessica identified, detained or removed for handing out flyers warning travelers about the dangers of airport body scanners as part of the Opt Out and Film campaign.

“Obviously this is your constitutional right, OK? As far as you’re concerned, you’re not breaking any laws. That’s what we want to get across to you guys,” Lenic told the activists, dismissing efforts by Myers to have the two kicked out of the airport.


Illinois Police Recording Law Blocked By Supreme Court 

JohnG's picture



Officer Lenic is a bona fide hero, and I cannot say that about most LEO's.  Albany Sherrif's Dept. is considering him for special commendation.

I think they should give him a medal.

I can't find an email for the Sherrif (Craig D. Apple, Sr.).

Here's a link:

Make a call.


Michaelwiseguy's picture

Deputy Stan can run for Sheriff some day and win easily. The Sheriff is the most powerful person in your county. This trend will sweep our entire country in every county in America and set it free again.

JohnG's picture

We can hope, but that is a tall order friend.  Very tall.

Kobe Beef's picture

It is one place the Liberty Movement can make drastic and immediate impact. You have to do more than hope. You have to organize and act. It's hardly a tall order.

CH1's picture

We can hope, but that is a tall order friend.  Very tall.

Actually, John, they shouldn't hope. That's what keeps their chains in place.

"Don't worry, we just saw a tiny flicker of light - the system will magically fix itself! And save us from having to put our asses on the line! HOORAY!!!"

infinity8's picture

Lay off the meth, Michael. The Sheriff has been the most powerful person in a lot of (especially small) counties for a very long time and has not been a good "trend" in many cases. Elected like judges, nobody that isn't in or really had to deal with "the system" knows anything about.

Michaelwiseguy's picture

Local offices like the Sheriff's Office are the offices most easily fixed by the people's vote. Lay off the childish sophomoric ad hominem insults infinity8.

And we just WON another biggie that grabs our country back from the tyrants and dictators.

Sen. Paul Declares Victory for Americans’ Right to Trial by Jury Passage of Feinstein-Lee amendment underlines Constitutional right against indefinite detention Nov 29, 2012

WASHINGTON, D.C. - This evening, the U.S. Senate voted on Amendment No. 3018 to the National Defense Authorization Act sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), and co-sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul, which protects the rights prescribed to Americans in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution with regard to indefinite detention and the right to a trial by jury.

The amendment passed, 67-29.

112912 Sen. Rand Paul speaks in support of Feinstein-Lee amendment to NDAA

infinity8's picture

"The people's vote" - you make me laugh now. Read my down-thread comment. I know a couple of good guys in law enforcement. They (among other factors) had a hand in forming my overall shitty opinion of the modern version of the "Justice System".

10mm's picture

Feinstein want's your guns.

Ident 7777 economy's picture


" The Sheriff is the most powerful person in your county. ..."


I think the DA is going to disagree ... while the Sherriff may arrest, the DA prosecutes OR dismisses ...

This old saw makes its way 'round the internet every so often ... and still doesn't make it true.


Michaelwiseguy's picture

If the DA violates a persons constitutional rights, the Sheriff fixes the problem.

That's why I have the Sheriff's phone number on my speed dial, especially if my local cops get out of control on me.

infinity8's picture

The DA's are a bunch of shitty assholes too. There is no "Justice System", it's the "legal system" and most working, law-abiding folks are completely in the dark (and don't know and can't afford a decent LAWyer). It's all keeping track of the "wins".

Michaelwiseguy's picture

In my city, I helped get voted out every city council member, Mayor, and had the City Manager fired in the span of 4 years. I'll do it again if I have to.

infinity8's picture

Do it - we need men (and women) of action. I just greened you. Don't stop what you're doing. I just don't think it's so easy for a lot of people. You gotta have time AND $$ to play that game - speaking as a normal, working, law-abiding citizen who never had any experience with "the system" til I was in my 40's except for a lot of speeding tickets, you might as well give up 6 mos. pay and throw a fucking dart at the yellow pages.

Michaelwiseguy's picture

I lived in my city since 2004 and had two traffic tickets, stop sign & speeding since then. I took both to court, no lawyer, and won both. My driving record is still pristine.

infinity8's picture

You got more down-time than me. Congrats.

infinity8's picture

and, if you failed to stop or were speeding, and got busted, why not pay the fucking ticket? Get away clean is get away clean but, you get the ticket. . . you sound like a professional ass pain.

Michaelwiseguy's picture

The customer is always right. Especially when there's no egregiousness involved.

sessinpo's picture

I think sheriffs often answer to the Mayor in most cities that have the concentration of population. I may be corrected on that statement.  But my point is you may have counties with sparce population where the Sheriff has lots of power. But in cities, that isn't so. Sheriffs are most often tax collectors in cities until you reach the point where the cities is huge like NY city.

Thisson's picture

The sheriff has many powers beyond "tax collection."  In particular, sheriffs are usually involved in the enforcement of legal proceedings: collecting on money judgments, garnishing wages, confiscating property for creditors, evicting tenants, etc.

CH1's picture

Deputy Stan can run for Sheriff some day and win easily.

You want to ruin the poor guy? He does one good thing and you want to corrupt his soul by making him chief overseer?

Politics? Are you freeking nuts?

RafterManFMJ's picture

Officer Lenic is a bona fide hero, and I cannot say that about most LEO's


He's a Hero for doing the job he's paid to do, and following his fucking oath? I'd say if that makes one a hero these days, we are in a world of shit!

PersonalResponsibility's picture

This seems staged to make airports seem safe.  They don't even need the body scanners anymore. There are new x-ray laser scanners that can scan a huge room from a tiny device mounted up on a wall to get the reading they need.  Just don't fly.  The lack of disclosure has almost proven it by default.

Just open your eyes and look up at a wall.  Who needs their retinas anway.  Cancer?  There'll be a cure any day now.





TraderTimm's picture

You're correct that Genia Photonics is in talks with DHS about their CARS (Coherent anti-Stokes Raman Spectroscopy) equipment, however there seems to be very little detail about the actual range of these devices.

Instead of linking to some page, here's the actual sources:

Under the "News" section of the Photonics website:

It remains to be seen whether the effective range is "an entire airport" or merely a few meters. Anyone familiar with the operational capability of these detectors?




Daily Bail's picture

Here are 2 GREAT clips on this subject.  Some of the best I've seen anywhere.

Both are worth seeing.

'Open Carry' Law Student Puts Cop In His Place

MUST SEE: 'Mind If I Violate Your 4th Amendment...'

Jreb's picture

Call me crazy but I think it was an exercise in irony. Nothing at all racist, biggotted or "off color" about it.

Sorry - but no thought police allowed here...


ilovefreedom's picture

About which part? That Obama has eroded more rule of law than GWB ever did?


It's also interesting that you personally know 98% of black women, that must be quite a mailing list.

AnAnonymous's picture

How could an 'american' manage to erode the rule of law? Rule of law under 'americanism' is always about selective application from the beginning.

'Americans' are mighty but how could they manage to erode the rule of law?

Seer's picture

Nice attempt at sarcasm...

About Thanksgiving (

In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared “A Day Of Thanksgiving”


Seer's picture

Perhaps a more even-handed assessment is this:

It claims that perhaps the number was closer to 300, and that it was the result of self-protection rather than intended all-out war/genocide.  Though I can see the reasoning here I still struggle to recognize this as being as innocent as it sounds given the simple question: who has the right to intrude on another's land and expect the other to not be hostile? the stage was set for this to occur; perhaps the "settlers" (isn't that a nice name/label/classification) were horribly naive, if so, then what of "ignorance is no defense?"  I see the very same setup in Afghanistan and Iraq.  If people came around to my land poking around and looking to take from it as though it is theirs, no matter what their real intent is, well...

EnslavethechildrenforBen's picture


Hey Doug - Blow Me!

sessinpo's picture

You just asked a dude to blow you. You're the type of person I'd ask to eat this because I want to see if it was poisonous. And you'd agree to do it. The world needs cannon fodder like you for experiments so the rest of humanity can go on. This is a positive post for you as I just explained your existence.


BTW, I might agree with you. Doug is a dollar short and a day late on this post. The US has grown to a police state for years now. It's just done it in a fashion that people have gotten use to each new intrusion over time - conditioning. But what we need to solve problems is intelligent debate and decisive action. "Hey Doug, blow me" doesn't seem to add much.

buzzsaw99's picture

...the wrong side won the civil war. lulz lulz lulz

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Wait until the Utah Data Center is up & running...

Back to hand-delivered messages.  Or steganography.

Zer0head's picture

two things

first check out Drudge amazing image of Timmay


by accident I clicked on cnn and up popped airhead but the video is apropos to PS America



lakecity55's picture

That's not Timmaay, it has to be a pic of the guy who shot up the movies in colorado.


maybe it's the same guy.

A Lunatic's picture

Run away from my problems and hide myself or my money in the land of rainbow skittle shitting unicorns fatigue........

Doctor Who's picture

I agree with you.  However, I see his point  being that we are a nation sitting on our asses while this all plays out.  If you have a whole country willing to let this happen, what is the point in waiting to see what happens when the axe falls. It will probably be so horrific you won't want to be around.  If the majority is fed, housed and unwilling to provide for themselves, the next government won't be a return to our founding roots.  I'm just rambling here, but I don't see this headed in a good direction.

A Lunatic's picture

Then all who have gone before died in vain. The sacrifices of old were for naught. Articles like this encourage fear of the government. Well fuck that. I am the the fucking government and I do not consent to be treated as a servant to a false master. The difference between me and those like Doug Casey is I've done my time in the fucking trenches and I do not fear losing all of my shit. My life is not defined by my country, wealth, or my profession. If people can't find anything worth fighting for in this country then good luck finding it anywhere else.

Doctor Who's picture

I think there is plenty to fight for in this country.  Don't get me wrong. I'm not leaving.  I don't think abandoning America is the right answer.  I just can't ignore the laws being put in place by the highest up, that turn all of our countrymen into prisoners to be, on the whim of someone elected on a slim majority.  The country is split and unless the actual masses of people who depend on its laws come together as a whole, we will continue electing bi-polar polititians who drive any hope for a move forward into the ground.  We are at an impasse.   It is a place that this country should have never come to.

Seer's picture

Yup... though I'll disagree that "I am the government," if it implies that this brings MORE power than a single human being ought have: I'll accept this statement if it means one is the governor of one's own life.

It's like this, people should be willing to fight for LIFE, for theirs and for those around them.  That's IT!

Really, why do we feel it necessary to bring in some umbrella, "country," "nation," "government" etc., as a cover?  These things make it EASIER to create enemies and to justify their (premature) extinction.  Labels make big, bright bullseyes; no labels results in people taking a bit of time to assess things, to better understand, to be LESS a product of propaganda (a servant of that propaganda, and it's controlling masters).

People complain that things are distorted in today's world and they fawn over days past as though those days weren't also the same as today- full of distortions.  The victors write the story.  The victors have been the same for hundreds of years now...

New_Meat's picture

"...I see his point  being that we are a nation sitting on our asses while this all plays out."

OTOH: 2 + 2 = 4

Doctor Who's picture

We are on a list of 2+2=the whole world.  Buckle up.

alfred b.'s picture


    In the 1990's, Democracy in America was wounded....and died very early in the 21st century.   All that remains is the debauchery of the bankster ruling class.  

    Buy physical gold and silver!


Seer's picture

Never such a thing...

History always seems to smell nice when you're not standing in the shit...

Debauchery has always existed.  The current excesses WILL cease, entropy assures it.

Invest in a future that better assures that you are not linked to those who wield controlling power: it's up to each individual to chart out their own course for this.

sessinpo's picture

Nice post Seer. Up arrow for you.


And as for alfred b., democracy was wounded way before 1990. And if you really educate yourself truthfully, you'll realize even democracy is flawed from its beginnings. But every system is flawed. My only reason for pointing out that democracy is flawed is so that others might not see democracy is the solve all system.