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Guest Post: Why Is The U.S. Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?

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Via Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

I have made comments about this on many occasions over the past several months, as even mainstream media outlets have covered the fact that our allies, the “Syrian rebels,” actually have a large “Al Qaeda” element to them (whatever the hell that means).

To me this is just further proof that our foreign policy is a complete joke, run by a bunch of insane chicken hawks in Washington D.C.

From McClatchy:

QALAT AL MUDIQ, Syria — When the group Jabhat al Nusra first claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries claimed that the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad and to hide the regime’s own brutal tactics.


Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.


The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaida in Iraq – an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.


Among Nusra fighters are many Syrians who say they fought with al Qaida in Iraq, which waged a bloody and violent campaign against the U.S. presence in that country and is still blamed for suicide and car bombings that have killed hundreds of Iraqis since the U.S. troops left a year ago.


Nusra’s rise is most evident in Syria’s north and east, where anti-Assad forces have recently been racking up impressive military gains. Gone are the days just five months ago when Nusra’s actions seemed limited to car and suicide bombings. Now, Nusra fighters are organized in battalion-sized groups that are often armed with heavy weaponry.


“When we finish with Assad, we will fight the U.S.!” one Nusra fighter shouted in the northeastern Syrian city of Ras al Ayn when he was told an American journalist present. He laughed as he said it and then got into a van and drove off, leaving the journalist unable to ask whether it had been a joke.

Did you catch that?  We are literally allied with some of the same fighters that we battled in Iraq!  The bigger point is we are supposed to be willing to give up our freedoms and civil liberties to fight an enemy that we are supporting in Syria?  Our “leaders” have no shame.


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Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:02 | 3033913 CH1
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A lot of Americans believe their "leaders" can do no wrong overseas.

They're really pretty decent folks in other aspects of their lives, which makes it a wonder to behold.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:07 | 3033921 economics9698
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The question is will China and Russian smuggle arms into US so our resistance fighters can opposed to the fascist regime in Washington?


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:14 | 3033958 Michaelwiseguy
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The Base is a subsidiary of the CIA. Sorry, I only understand English.

Does anyone have 1080p video of a bunch of people who are Members of The Base? I have never seen any video of them except some manufactured jungle gym ninja stuff.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:16 | 3033975 Dr. Richard Head
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Reagan and Osama bin Laden = Freedom Fighter
Bush/Obama and Osama bin Laden = Terrorist

Unfortunately, people in this country vote fucking party over facts!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:36 | 3034022 Pinto Currency
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Perhaps the goal is to create chaos in the middle east and ignite a war between the west and Arabs/Muslims.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:04 | 3034112 ozziindaus
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RIGHT ON or to create states that actually persecute and degrade their people like every other Western friendly Arab nation

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:38 | 3034226 john39
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the author is looking in the wrong direction... of course it makes no sense for the U.S. to support al-cia-duh in Syria... just as it makes no sense to allow a private bank to control dollar...   the problem is that U.S. citizens no longer control the U.S. government... as and as result, you see things like this that appear illogical.  But the depraved souless creatures who run the international banking cartel want to the the U.S. and Europe economically destroyed...  and their plan is very far along.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:42 | 3034445 TwoShortPlanks
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"Why Is The U.S. Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?".....wrong question, try, Why Is The CIA Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:11 | 3034562 Enslavethechild...
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CIA is short for Central Bankers

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:57 | 3034688 jeff montanye
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because it gives them something to do?

and when assad is overthrown and the freedom fighters turn on their former handlers (as in afghanistan) and become terrorists, the cia will have something else to do.  just can't stand being idle.  devil's work.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 01:38 | 3034828 Spirit Of Truth
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As I've been tirelessly warning, the whole Syrian insurgency and Arab Spring for that matter has been a setup from the get-go compliments of the "Old Enemy", i.e., imperialist Russia and China:

Most tragically, the West is too foolish to even recognize the struggle for the hearts and minds of the world's people that's underway.  Thus, we are easily duped into looking like the "bad guys"....something most in this forum are delighted in supporting.

Ultimately, however, the free world will be vanquished in thermonuclear destruction and then, maybe, at least a few of the radioactive zombies still walking the earth will wake up to the absurd historical ruse now unfolding.

Until then, I'm a lone voice in a Western wilderness of decadence-ridden filth and stupidity.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:19 | 3034177 Dr. Engali
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Facts? What the fuck do we need facts for? They only hurt our head and require us to think. I'll let the TV tell me what to think.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:54 | 3034293 blunderdog
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Shit, the author of the article here is talking about al Qaeda as the enemy in IRAQ.  Uy.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 07:24 | 3034980 Urban Redneck
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The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.

Once my enemy is neutralized, a proper evaluation of future threats must occur and vigilant attention maintained in order to prevent those threats from being realized.

Hence, the nauseating Groundhog Day worthy replay of the realization of the Law of Unintended Consequences in the implementation of US Foreign Policy.


The two words, "Peace Dividend"


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:45 | 3034763 Go Tribe
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Obama is covered in crude oil from head to toe. Slippery as a greased pig.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:42 | 3034037 Ginsengbull
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For the right price.


And the price is right!


You can get a mosin-nagant for $89.


Weld a scope rail to the rear sight base, and you can put the bead on the bad guys from 400 yds.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:23 | 3034193 fonzannoon
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Hah thats like a red dawn opposite day. Red white and blue dawn?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 04:12 | 3034905 AnAnonymous
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The question is will China and Russian smuggle arms into US so our resistance fighters can opposed to the fascist regime in Washington?

Makes my day. Sometimes, you've got that brilliance from an 'american' outdoing all the others.

The numbers of guns in the US is not enough?

Wonders what it would take for an 'american' to put his actions where his mouth is when they speak of that shit.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:16 | 3033977 Ookspay
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GW Bush predicted that once saddam was gone there would be "a new breath of freedom and democracy throughout the middle east". It's Workin' like a charm...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:18 | 3033981 economics9698
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Yes we see that.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:16 | 3033978 Ookspay
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GW Bush predicted that once saddam was gone there would be "a new breath of freedom and democracy throughout the middle east". It's Workin' like a charm...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:44 | 3034040 Ginsengbull
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Rumsfeld said that the oil would pay for the war.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:05 | 3034123 sumo
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He meant it would pay for executive bonuses at Halliburton and Blackwater.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:56 | 3034301 Ookspay
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Left unmolested the mohammadans would be selling crude at $250 a barrel, this simply cannot be. Sometimes the preferred method of fomenting intermural conflicts isn't enough and we have to go break stuff ourselves. Manipulation and intervention is hard work, but it sure beats a global caliphate.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:27 | 3034739 Who is John Galt
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OOkspay, you are one stupid motherfucker!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:46 | 3034766 Vlad Tepid
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If they tried selling it at $250 a barrel, that would sure be a boon to North Sea, Gulf of Mexico, Nigeria, Venezuela and Canada producers not to mention the natgas industry.  Even Mohammedans have to follow the Invisible Hand.

And another point: left unmolested, Mohammedans (I love that term) would be crushed under the jackboot of authoritarian dictatorship.  See no less of a historic example than the Ottoman empire, but Saddam, Sadat, or Saud will do nicely as well.  No one wants to play with frothing zealots...and so they don't, until America's hamfisted policies intervene.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:07 | 3034126 helping_friendl...
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Ookspay=Dick Cheney??????

Or is it Condi?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:49 | 3034279 Ookspay
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No, Ookspay only pawn in game of life.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:22 | 3033982 Ookspay
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Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:26 | 3034003 hayesy316
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It's pretty simple, really. No conspiracy theories required. You've had 12 years of administrations with an ideological blindness surrounding romantic notions of democratic revolutions throughout the Middle East; first with Bush and the influence of neoconservatism, now with an anti-colonialist, Marxist-tinged Obama administration. Nobody ever considered that democratic states may be the WORST thing for regional stability, but that's politically incorrect. The days of realpolitik are out the window.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:11 | 3034145 sun tzu
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The Bozo knocked down Mubarak and put the more fascist Muslim Brotherhood into power in Egypt. Then he knocked down Ghaddafi and put Al Qaeda in charge there, which promptly murdered the US ambassador. Now he will knock down Assad and put Al Qaeda in charge there. Could this be The Bozo's way of wiping out Israel - surrounding it with mortal enemies? You see, Mubarak, Assad, and Ghaddafi pretty much left Israel alone. We know Al Qaeda and The Muslim Brotherhood will not. 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:33 | 3034234 Dr. Engali
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Interesting theory. The support the new Egyptian regime gets should be telling.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:46 | 3034273 Everybodys All ...
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Glenn Beck has pointed this out months and months ago. The Islamic caliphate is the end game in his opinion. Who knows. As crazy as it sounded back then he has pretty much nailed it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:47 | 3034770 Go Tribe
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Nothing is crazy. Remember that.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 09:15 | 3035095 Ookspay
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It's about time for the mahdi to come out of the well and get this party started.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:31 | 3034215 Dr. Engali
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Come in you don't seriously believe that any of the regimes believed in that democracy crap do you? They don't believe in it here (I know we are supposed to be a republic) , why on earth would they believe in it any place else. It has been and always will be about the petro dollar. Try to escape it and we will bust up your shit and fly you a cargo and full of fresh new American dollars for you to spend.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:04 | 3034113 helping_friendl...
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Most Americans I speak to, every day, agree that our "leaders" have lied and stolen their and their grandchildren's future.

When you write "A lot of Americans believe their "leaders"......." it is obvious you are not one of us. American i.e.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:43 | 3034449 SWIFT 760
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Kikenvermin troll...GTFO !!!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 09:26 | 3035124 midtowng
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This isn't the first al-Qaeda group that America supported. There's been a couple others in the middle east fighting Iran as well.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:02 | 3033915 otto skorzeny
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I'll give you a hint-it's 6 letters long,starts with an I, sets our Mideast policy via AIPAC and is full of Jews.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:05 | 3033924 CH1
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It's always the Jews. How boring.

A troll should at least be interesting. How else do you hope to derail the conversation?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:08 | 3033939 francis_sawyer
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Have no fear... Jews are on call 24/7 to set the historical record straight and remind everyone of how badly they've been persecuted, how noble & righteous their objectives are, and how history has never given them an honest break... The rhetoric is working on YOU ~ that's for sure...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:11 | 3033950 CH1
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<Explitives deleted, the dipshit ain't worth it.>

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:26 | 3033999 francis_sawyer
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Yeah, you & your Israeli buddies are right... I'm wrong... How DARE Iran position their country so close to our military bases... This CLEARLY demonstrates their hostile intentions...



Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:33 | 3034018 JohnnyBriefcase
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Isn't it amazing how quickly CH1 and others with similar pro-israel viewpoints magically appear whenever the truth about Israel is posted online.


It's almost as if they are monitoring every site just waiting for the opportunity to "re-educate" people.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:36 | 3034023 francis_sawyer
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 "almost as if"???... lulz

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:38 | 3034026 JohnnyBriefcase
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Right? Good thing I'm just paranoid...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:40 | 3034032 francis_sawyer
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For the record... I don't hate jews... Instead ~ I hate liars & thieves... Let the rest follow as it may [remember ~ francis_sawyer IS NOT the one stealing your wealth or enslaving you ~ it's not in my DNA to do so]...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:12 | 3034148 dark pools of soros
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he might just be a shill for Lockheed which uses the 'conflict' as their marketing wing

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 07:32 | 3034988 Urban Redneck
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The Israeli government, the Iranian government, the US government, the Chinese government, the Russian government, the entire city of Brussels- damn that's a lot of hate, too bad there aren't ANY big players leading "sides" who aren't LIARS & THIEVES.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:00 | 3034098 helping_friendl...
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Same program that powers hft computers to trade on news.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:24 | 3034196 hayesy316
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Yeah Johnny, you caught us. We're secret paid propagandists for DA JOOZ!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:11 | 3033956 economics9698
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One word rebuttal for why there was a Holocaust…Holodomor.  

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:13 | 3033968 francis_sawyer
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More where that came from if everyone wants to keep fucking around & acting stupid... I'm not an instigator... I'm just sayin'...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:44 | 3034238 john39
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holocostianty... a new religion that the gentiles must worship, while the zionists meanwhile conduct their own holocost of the palestinians...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:13 | 3034567 francis_sawyer
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sadly so...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:17 | 3034171 flapdoodle
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Walter Duranty would disagree!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:11 | 3033959 Ginsengbull
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Which denomination?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:10 | 3033947 Ginsengbull
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Let me take a whack at it....


So how come all these drones keep crashing?


Pilot error?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:11 | 3033957 francis_sawyer
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your taxpayer [borrowed] dollars hard at work...

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 07:58 | 3035006 fajensen
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Designed by Chinese expats and built with Chinese hardware, two layers of backdoors included?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:23 | 3033994 otto skorzeny
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feel free to offer an explanation

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:29 | 3034692 Who is John Galt
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Why should we be afraid to call out the Jews in what they are doing?

Userous swindlers making a buck off the deaths of children deserve to be called out.

How dare you try to chastise those who call out the Synogogue of Satan?


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:04 | 3033927 economics9698
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Israel wants Assad out.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:22 | 3033993 kliguy38
Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:21 | 3033990 hayesy316
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Why would Jews promote a foreign policy which INCREASED the chance of Israel being blown off the map? Wouldn't they rather have moderate, dictatorial, pro-Western regimes which suppressed extremist Islamic groups in countries surrounding Israel? I realise antisemites aren't renowned for their logic, but try again.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:25 | 3034001 otto skorzeny
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I thought it was Zionists that aren't renowned for their logic-taking cues from a book that is thousands of years old full of stuff that may be lost or changed(purposefully) in the translation.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:40 | 3034033 ShrNfr
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All the books of the various religions have been mistranslated, redacted, and what not. The OT was redacted around 700 BCE and then poorly translated into various languages later. Chapters about the Babelonian exile were added later. The "Red" Sea is really the "Reed" Sea in the original Hebrew. Basically a papyrus swamp in the Nile Delta. The Koran as it is currently written differs from the Koran that is inscribed in the inside of the Dome of The Rock. The BS about the Hadith is Legend. Current estimate is that half of the Pauline letters were written by somebody else. Lots of other stuff too. The "If English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me." crowd has their head up their butts along with everyone else.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:51 | 3034059 Ginsengbull
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I bet you can't type that same response verbatim, without looking at your original post.


Now try writing it again, with a quill pen, on a piece of papyrus.


Pretty respectable effort to preserve history, huh?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:59 | 3034096 ozziindaus
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I highly doubt the Koran has ever been mistranslated. Too many people have recited it word for word. In fact walk into any mosque on any given day and you'll likely run into someone (Harfez) who knows it by heart. The Hadith on the other hand are stories subject to translation or interpretation. 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:26 | 3034206's picture


half of the Pauline letters were written by somebody else.


I hadn't realized that the newsletter controversy went that far back.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:47 | 3034669 akak
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Who is Pauline?

Sounds like a stripper to me.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:14 | 3034154 hayesy316
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I'll take the Old Testament over the Protocols of the Elders of Zion anyday. The former promoted Western Civilisation and the only stable democratic state in the Middle East. The latter promoted creepy racist internet trolls and conspiracy nuts.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:37 | 3034249 john39
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but the old testament has been heavily altered and changed over time... there is no "chosen people"...  this is a total self serving myth that was created to dupe otherwise good natured people....

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:40 | 3034639 hayesy316
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Irrelevant. You don't need to buy into religious theology to recognise the influence of Judeo-Christian culture on Western Civilisation. For the record, I'm an atheist, so I have no axe to grind here. It was the Protestant Reformation which fostered the nascent ideals of individual liberty, and the religious tolerance of states like the Netherlands towards Jews which fostered trade and spread the ideas of capitalism and finance to England in the 17th century during the anti-Jacobite movement, sparking the Industrial Revolution. Learn a bit about European history instead of listening to these mouth-breathing, basement-dwelling antisemitic troglodytes blaming their loser lives on DA JOOZ.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:20 | 3034731 Ookspay
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Right on!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:40 | 3034759 john39
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Judeo-Christianity is an oxymoron. I stopped reading your post after seeing that.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:45 | 3034762 hayesy316
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Shame. Maybe you could've learned something.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 04:22 | 3034912 Colonial Intent
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The 88/white power gang on ZH blame the jews for everything that has gone wrong in their life, its not their fault, its the jews controlling it all thats why their life is shit.




Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:34 | 3034240 JOYFUL
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...Why would Jews promote a foreign policy which INCREASED the chance of Israel being blown off the map...?

You are right...

anti-semites such as the Russian-Polish bolshi scum who you apparently front for don't employ 'logic' much when faced with the consequences of their implacable hatred of the rest of the human race...they prefer to fall back upon the closed system of their cabbalistic formulas which involve a large measure of blood sacrifice and arcane necromantic productions...leading to a rain\reign of death which inevitably spirals out of control and leaves everybody the worse for wear...

these kooks are already finished with "israel"....and upon their departure intend for everything and everybody to 'go up in smoke' in one last big luciferian pageant of pain. They're just waiting for their dual-citiizened buddles to finish looting the west, then it's show time...

no logic required.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:46 | 3034767 hayesy316
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"no logic required."


You said it. Something about necromancers.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:04 | 3034538 The Heart
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Let us pray for the rothschild puppet regime isreal as they are being used up and then set up for extinction, or at least one heck of a battle with every Muslim nation around them. Just go and ask rothschild, isreals puppet master and owner. Even the flag is a rothschild symbol of ownership and enslavement of the land. Why do you think the devils playground of evil and mayhem goes on day after day, year after year? So evil can flourish there. When the multi-tentacled beast is done with isreal hollow carcass, it will spit the bones into the fire for the final solution. The beast will tell you so.

Sad, most zionists and real jewish people will never know, have a choice, or even if told the truth as simplistically as possible, they will still not learn, nor change from the hate-filled hearts most have become there in the supposed Holy Land.

Here comes the Prince of Peace and the time of Christmas. Will the warring and evil land thefts continue to escalate through the seasons best? Maybe. Them evil zionist murderers have always had a bad habit of trouncing on American Holidays with false flag events and distractions from the real agenda of just plain killing us all off.

How does a world think it has for long when it has learned to kill each other off for others elitist agendas, profits, and eugenics programs? To hate each other for no good reason, other than they were taught too by a previous apartheid generation hating for no good reasons at all, is wrong in any universe.

Stupid is as stupid does and we are doomed to repeat history because the world is to darn stupid and dumbed down to learn from history.

All as planned by the bankster empire of the money god of course.

How long will it be until we have another event to change the course of human history? Any bets?



Tue, 12/04/2012 - 23:41 | 3034649 Abitdodgie
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The Heart , that was good !!!!! thanks

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:18 | 3034727 The Heart
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The sad reality no one wants to see is the truth that we all have the same evil enemy that wants to pit side against side as in all the previous wars for profits and death. We can all get along just fine with out the bankster profiteers and money-god worshipers. Take Iceland for an example of what the people of the world should all get together and do. Since it takes real work to go out and actually manifest real changes, the lack-toast generations of ipod adventures and TV drug watchers will not even get their own lazy arses off the couch to do what is necessary, thus setting the nation of the united Sates up for a terrible and harsh downfall.

"Can't we all just get along?"



Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:14 | 3037688 Tompooz
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Israel is not worried about Muslim extremists "blowing it off the map".

What it really fears is being surrounded by prosperous, well educated, internationally well respected and well connected countries, like the Lebanon used to be.

Much better to create chaos with easily demonizable fanatics and destabilize the surrounding countries with civil war, preferably along religious sectarian lines.  With targeted assassinations, it can keep such civil wars going for as long as it pleases. 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:31 | 3034012 DosZap
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Sure Otto,the Israeli gv't is ALL about a 2nd Iran(Egypt, and Libia),and if Assad is murdered,count on the BruthaHoods to take that over ALSO.

We are insane with our policies of helping insane tribal/radical Islamists to more easily attack us, and Israel.

But, IMHO, this is part of the Masters Plan, So be it.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:14 | 3034152 sun tzu
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That's pretty stupid. Why would the Jews want to take down Assad in Syria, who is no threat to them, and put Al Qaeda in charge? Why would they want to take down a friendly Mubarak and put a hostile Muslim Brotherhood in charge in Egypt? Why would they want to take down Ghaddafi who was no threat to them and put in Al Qaeda there? If anything they would want secular dictators, not extremist Muslim fanatics.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 04:24 | 3034914 Colonial Intent
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Otto's a pretty stupid guy, but like hitler he has a lot of deluded followers.

Never allow facts to get in the way of your racism do you otto?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 04:19 | 3034910 Colonial Intent
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Breaking news, nazi war criminal otto Skorzeny hates jews, you heard it here first folks.

88/white power......

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:02 | 3033916 bilejones
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Why Is The U.S. Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?"


Because "Al Qaeda" is the CIA's Foreign Legion?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:07 | 3033941 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Gaaaallllleeee. You got to be bullshitin me .

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:04 | 3033923 Piranhanoia
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I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the war with Eurasia.  I mean Eastasia. Which one am I supposed to mean?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:04 | 3033926 surf0766
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Because they are Brotherhood !

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:05 | 3033928 Ima anal sphincter
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Death............ play by the bankers rules, or die.

Pretty damn sick world we live in.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:06 | 3033929 ghengis86
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Fuck these cunts. Bring the cliff and collapse as fast as possible so they can't keeping funding this shit with fucking paper they print!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:20 | 3033987 economics9698
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I second that!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:05 | 3033931 lolmao500
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Under NDAA 2012, Obama should have put himself on his own secret kill list, along with Panetta and whoever is running the CIA now.

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and a few others arming the ``rebels`` would have been put on the terrorist country list.

Not to mention, all the military industrial complex arms deal with these countries ranging in the tens of billions would have been canceled.

But get real people, laws are only for the little people.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:07 | 3033935 Robslob
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Why Is The U.S. Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?


Because War pays dividends to the Elite bitch...what...we can't learn from 1 Quadrillion years of history?!?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:32 | 3034227 BigJim
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No 'threat' = no MIC.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:08 | 3033936 Robslob
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Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:08 | 3033942 BlackMagician
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Why Is The U.S. Allied With Al Qaeda In Syria?

Because we as citizens have no say in anything our government does. We are mere passengers on a conductorless train...the crooks have already won...some just don't know it. Hell we supposedly voted against war with this nobel peace prize president...all is lost. Wake me when the revolution starts...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:35 | 3034021 Ginsengbull
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There you go, waiting for someone else to get things started.


Easier than starting them yourself.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:30 | 3034221's picture

He's one up on Rip Van Winkle who slept through the entire Revolution and then some.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:09 | 3033948 Bear
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"Our leader(s) have no shame" ... no, our leader is missing

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:12 | 3033951 mjorden
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Is this really a suprise, Our ambassadors over there (imo) are moonlighting CIA operations.  History repeats itself, if Fast & Furious is any indication, we spend more time taking two steps back and cleaning up what was bad logistical planning from the beginning.  The General's in charge of the Middle East started by forking out millions to 'sway' and 'motivate' tribal leaders to be loyalists to the United States, sorry, but they are not motivated by fatty food and cheap dollars like us Fat Fucks inside the united states.  Secure our borders, open up legal and ethical immigration, and only ally ourselves for our benefit and those with like interests.  If our foreign policy in any way shape or form puts America in any kind of danger more than it does provide safety and security, don't do it.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:43 | 3034039 helping_friendl...
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Well put!

Excellent platform.

Couldn't be said better!


I will not be shocked or bothered when they take our leader and treat them like Saddam or Noriega.

I won't have any pity. I will even come take pictures if given the chance. They will get what is due them!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:13 | 3033954 Insideher Trading
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Hussein Obama is allied with Al-Qaeda and you have questions?

Well pickle me surprised. did take note of how Osama Bin Laden's body was treated after he was killed right? There are American's that don't even get that kind of treatment.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:14 | 3033965 mjorden
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Don't isolate Obama, this has been an Executive & Legislative branch policy for decades.  With mainstream technology (access to information), we are starting to piece together the puzzle.  For fuck's sake, the Bin Laden family was invested with the Bush Family's banking business. 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:15 | 3033970 Insideher Trading
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They washed Osama Bin Laden's feet for fucks sake.

Americans are FUCKTARDS.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:20 | 3033986 Insideher Trading
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If you think that's bad...

American soldiers remains dumped in landfills...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:24 | 3033997 economics9698
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I think the military would support a coup d’état.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:29 | 3034010 UP Forester
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That's what the Executive Order from 2 weeks ago is meant to root out....

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:22 | 3033989 Insideher Trading
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Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:39 | 3034029 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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They dumped Osama's body in the blue like they were fucking pirates.  WTF are you talking about, Bob Dobalina?  Whatever happened to your fake blog tradonfire anyway?  Are you done pretending to run money for investopedia?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:50 | 3034052 Insideher Trading
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"Traditional procedures for Islamic burial was followed," the May 2 email from Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette reads. "The deceased's body was washed (ablution) then placed in a white sheet. The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased's body slid into the sea."

He was washed, placed in a white sheet, and had a native Muslim speaker read him prayers. He had a buriel at sea in accordance to Muslim practices.

Meanwhile US servicemen are being dumped in landfills.

What did I get wrong?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:10 | 3034138 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Muslims are buried facing the Kabba, dipshit.  They dumped him in the ocean and made some shit up to get you fired up.  You would believe the CIA if they told you a sasquatch shot JFK, huh.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:58 | 3034305 bilejones
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Bin Laden died in December 2001.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 00:50 | 3034775 Savvy
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Starting to piece together the puzzle?

LMFAO!!! My family i don't consider stupid, but they are far fucking more interested in f scrabble than Egypt's looming civil war or Patriot missiles going to Turkey or Pales... you get the idea.


I'd rather pull hen's teeth than try to get some cohesive resistance going.



Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:07 | 3034127 Winston Churchill
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Usama bin Laden died in Dec.2001.Uptil his death he denied involvement in 9/11,

he actually condemmed it,

Whoever was killed in Abottabad had no need of a dialysis machine,none found there.

The SEAL team ,in breach of protocol,all died together on one  helicopter a week later in


What were you complaining about again ?


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:12 | 3033961 Hangfire
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Whoever produces Hellfire missiles is all smiles these days.  

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:24 | 3034200 sumo
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Tomahawk missiles and destex (the "active ingredient") have also been steady sellers.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:13 | 3033963 Pairadimes
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Someone in our government apparently believes that if we give them money and lots of shiny, loud and dangerous hardware and point them at another enemy, then maybe they won't blow themselves up in our grocery stores. I think you can actually get a Ph.D. in this stuff now.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:51 | 3034486 bunnyswanson
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Oh but the ground is fertile soil for growing new terrorists.  But first, you kill their entire family including gramma, blow off a few limbs of their neighbors and destroy their infrastructure so there is great suffering and anger.  War will never end this way, you see, just as they planned.  Pawns R Us

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:13 | 3033966 tony bonn
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"...We are literally allied with some of the same fighters that we battled in Iraq! ..." qaeda is a database of cia ad hoc mercenaries who perform its dirty qaeda was a phantom enemy the bush crime syndicate invented to justify its wars of imperial aggression....the cia deploys al qaeda as needed to accomplish its bellicose objectives....the usa never fights al qaeda - it only claims to do plasters its enemies with that label whenever it wants to murder someone....

the project for the next american century -  a neocon wet dream of war - targeted syria for regime change no later than the 1990s and most likely much earlier....its etiology reaches into the 1970s....the neocons want syria under their control so they deployed one of their best assets - al qaeda - to do the job....the same as when they wanted the wtc destroyed to stir up the winds of war which got us in the hellhole in the first place...

al qaeda may be your enemy but is not the enemy of the cia, state dept, bush crime syndicate, rockefeller axis of evil etc etc etc....

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:19 | 3033983 dick cheneys ghost
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Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:22 | 3034375 The Heart
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In the early days...there were few who saw so perfectly the beast herein described so well. Few spoke the truth to public forums that are monitored by the babylononian stooges under the imperial conditioning.

Now...many sprouts of great trees of truth flow out like this and it is so real...and so powerfully exactly said right.

Big huge Kudos to you for the good work you have done to get to this agenda at work.

The question remains to be answered, what's a poor beleaguered nation of slaves to the govt handouts to do when they pull the plugs of sanity and supply?




Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:14 | 3033971 London Banker
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Why is the US allied to Al Qaeda in Syria?  Because the US is and always has been allied to Al Qaeda - wherever.  Al Qaeda is a creation of Bob Gates when he was Deputy Director of the CIA under Bill Casey.  He has been funding, arming and directing them ever since.

Americans never cease to amaze me with their saluting the flag and all the traitors waving it.

The Great War on Terror is about as real as the War on Drugs (a term coined by George H. W. Bush - former Director of the CIA - when he was Vice President to Reagan).  Both are great money wasting exercises designed to enrich a very few and never, ever result in a conclusive victory.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:28 | 3034005 helping_friendl...
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You can bet your sweet ass Black Water, Xie, or whatever the hell their name is, is on the payroll. Black Water monsters justv walked across the border from Iraq to Syria. Now the Israelis are paying them.

If this country were smaller we would have over thrown the douche bag traitors who conspire daily to enslave us.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:45 | 3034460 Mr Pink
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damn I wish there was a bar we could all hang out at.....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 14:33 | 3036459 Joseph Jones
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Tyler, you listening?

Give us a ZH convention! 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:16 | 3033976 chump666
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And those bandits in Libya that killed and rapped the US ambassador


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:19 | 3033984 Binko
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An apt analogy. The people we think are driving and conducting the train are really back in the freight cars leading the gangs of theives that are pillaging the goods.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:22 | 3033991 SmittyinLA
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We have a mafia govt (Duh) our govt goes where "they're" paid to go, there is no philosophy or morality to the goons we protect and the goons we murder.

A recap of Who the US allies with\

We allied with Saddam-then killed him 20 years later

We allied with Gaddafi then waged war against him 20 years later then re-allied with him in the  "war on terror" against AlQaida,  then stabbed him in the back and allied again with AlQaida, and we turned all of Gaddaffis weapons over to Al Qaida. 

We conspired for an Egyptian coup, then allied with Sadat, then Mubarak whacked Sadat & we allied with him, then 20 years later stabbed him in the back and allied again with Fundamentalist Muslims. 

We allied with OBL, Al Qaeda, islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah in Bosnia and Kosovo, Libya, Yemen-while simultaneously hunting the leadership of our "allies".

Our foreign policy is fucking psycho but what can we expect when have Senators like Barbara Boxer Dianne Feinstein.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:48 | 3034466 Mr Pink
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but wait....I thought they hated us for our freedom

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:22 | 3033992 negative rates
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They got no commen sense either, don't they know there is a religious civil war goin on over there?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:23 | 3033995 surf0766
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We should wait for msnbc's take on this. They seem to be guiding on the new tax rates.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 06:29 | 3034949 Disenchanted
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Yeah...maybe Mrs. Alan Greenspan will let us in on what's really going on. LOL!

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:28 | 3034006 Tucson Tom
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One cargo ship has already been sent from Libya with arms.It was interdicted inTurkey.Two seals killed along with Stephans were there to find weapons caches.Some one will turn over a rock and find that the real story about Bengazi was sending arms to Syria.Four dead Americans doesn`t sound good just before an election who who were dealing in arms trade.All the rest may be a cover up.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:29 | 3034009 surf0766
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When do they write an article on us funding them in libya ?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:37 | 3034028 kill switch
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Democracy vs Republic a huge distinction

This is the core of all we have,,,The rest is id BS

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:41 | 3034036 chump666
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The middle east is primitive, they follow a dark ages religion and the behave like lunatics.  Let'em kill each other, we should not be there.  But of course we need the flow of oil, it's easy extraction from the sands straight into our ecomomy which is dying anyway.

I don't think the human race will make it. 

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:48 | 3034048 ozziindaus
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So why are we in Syria besides destabilizing it to Israel's benefit? If a few 100k militias armed themselves against the US government, wouldn't we expect retaliation with force? What would the citizens of the US think if Mexico and Canada armed the militia? When's the arab spring going to reach the real dog states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar? See anything suspicious?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 20:50 | 3034058 Zombie Investor
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Why didn't Obama offer support/encouragement to the Iranian protesters?  Why doesn't he criticize Morsi or support the Egyptian protesters?  Who knows.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 05:22 | 3034939 Colonial Intent
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Why didn't Amadineerjad offer support/encouragement to the OWS protesters?  Why doesn't he criticize Obama or support the Tea party protesters? 


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:04 | 3034101 Wakanda
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Throw out that logic shit that was drilled into you at "school" and "church".

The USSA craves the blood, submission, and resources of all humans (everywhere).

We are being ruled/hunted by puppets that take direction from non physical creatures that crave human fear and submission.  Call them demons if that works for you.

We call this "bizzaro world" because we are not including these factors.  If we don't see it, hear it, or measure it with instruments "it does not exist".  Hyperdimensional creatures are real and some are dangerous.  When they are in charge bad shit happens.  They will get get away with as much as possible without losing their human host.

If we summon the courage to confront the darkness within each of us, then we will be able to confront the forces that drive our psychopathic rulers.


Tue, 12/04/2012 - 21:08 | 3034132 El Hosel
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.....Yeah, and who bought all the puts on airliners pre 911?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 22:53 | 3034494 Mr Pink
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hmmmm....very interesting. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter

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