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David Rosenberg On "Shared Sacrifice"

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From David Rosenberg of Gluskin Sheff

Shared Sacrifice

Our hedge fund desk has always told me that among the most reliable cyclical indicators for the American consumers is the restaurant sector. Traffic is slowing down precipitously and the companies are issuing negative guidance.

I took a look at the monthly details from the latest PCE data and saw that in nominal dollars, consumer spending on eating out sagged 0.4% in October and has contracted now in three of the past four months. The YoY trend peaked at +5.7% in July and has since slowed to +4.4% which is the softest pace in eight months (the three-month trend which a year ago was running at 7.5% at an annual rate is now close to stall-speed of 2%). As a sign that families are becoming more cautious in their spending and eating habits, grocery shopping is up in two of the past three months and at double the trend (at 4%) of the restaurant industry.

The downward trend in "eating out" has broader connotations, by the way.

Now that everyone is focused like a laser beam on Fiscal Armageddon, it may be more appropriate to be looking at what is happening on Main Street rather than Washington. Looking ahead, it is going to be more about the economy, and taking it a step further, at times like these, it is important to understand where the real economic power resides, and that is with the people.

And not just where they shop, but where they eat, in this era of frugality.

In the meantime, it is reasonable to assume that disinflationary pressures will intensify. As the tax base gets broadened and entitlement reform takes hold, an enormous amount of shared sacrifice will be required. Less government will require a move towards tighter budgets and this will contribute to stress in the job market and after-tax personal incomes, at least for a while. Attitudes are changing radically as there is a growing acceptance among public sector unions and civil servants that the way they spend and save is going to undergo some radical changes in the future.

Furloughs, layoffs, and now less-generous pension benefits for current workers and retirees are occurring for the first time ever. Sweeping changes are taking place at the state level as pension trustees and legislatures push for higher monthly contributions to pension plans, a later retirement age and lower annual cost-of-living adjustments for current and retired workers. Unions (those that don't make Twinkles, in any event), are making the concessions because they can see the future absent shared sacrifice — the termination of defined benefit plans in favour of defined contribution plans. Be that as it may, employee contributions are going up — a de facto tax hike. And this will work directly against any upturn in consumer spending when you consider that the state and local government sector employ nearly 20 million people or 15% of the national job pie.

So we will have less government, fewer entitlements and more whisperings that it isn't just the $250,000+ high-income households that are going to experience tax increases and diminished disposable income growth. This is shared sacrifice. To think that the nation could have ever gone to war in Iraq and in Afghanistan under the Bush regime, putting our troops at great risk not to mention the emotional scars on their families, while here at home civilians would be allowed to enjoy tax cuts and a debt-financed consumption binge. This is something worth contemplating as everyone joins in to redress a national balance sheet that has gone parabolic.

At all levels of the social structure, starting with households and followed by unions and governments, the U.S. will be swept up in a sprint to frugality now that the Baby Boom has run out of time to speculate. They will be saving the old fashioned way. Everybody talks about how ultra-low long-term interest rates have nowhere to go but up — well, the same can be said about the U.S. personal savings rate. The problem for bond bears, however, is that the likely increase in the latter will thwart any attempt for a sustained increase in the former given the disinflationary consequences from an aggregate demand viewpoint.

The critically important Baby Boomer population will, out of necessity, be pursuing a strategy of working longer, saving more and liquidating debt in order to secure a comfortable retirement while at the same time the public sector moves in the very same direction towards fiscal probity. In the case of Government, solvency will be restored by reducing non-essential services and severely means-testing entitlements while increasing taxes and user fees. One has to wonder what events could provide positive momentum to GDP growth, push corporate earnings to record highs as the consensus predicts as early as next year, or generate any lasting inflation, for that matter.

It's the people that make these pricing decisions. Businesses can only price up to what consumers are willing to pay. It is households that determine whether or not we have inflation, not some bureaucrat in Washington who believes he has control over some printing press. Surely the Fed's largesse this cycle would have been the proof of the pudding that when a secular credit contraction results in declining monetary velocity, inflation goes down, not up. And when the underlying trend is already below 2%, one can see that disinflation risks are nontrivial even as Wall Street research houses are busy forecasting the return of a rising interest rate cycle.

This all then begs the question what it is we are supposed to be bullish about? Especially since 0% policy rates leaves cash as little more than a tactical asset.

The answer is, from an investment stance Safety and Income at a Reasonable Price. High quality bonds with duration. Capital preservation strategies with low correlation to the equity market such as classic long-short hedge fund exposures. And hedges against recurring bouts of global financial, economic and geopolitical instability mean a core holding of precious metals in the portfolio. Strong balance sheets, positive net free cash flow yield, earnings stability, non-cyclical sectors and dividend growth and yield are all the characteristics that should be screened for in any equity market investments. Credit arbitrage strategies make good sense as well given the Fed's ability to mitigate asset price volatility via its balance sheet expansion and sustained strong corporate balance sheet conditions. The demand-supply balance for crude oil is particularly constructive and heightened geopolitical risks will help the basic material sector retain an allure. There are also special situations with regard to the prospect of U.S. energy self-sufficiency, improvements in net household formation and medical technologies. So there are still needles in the haystack for equity investors in a lingering disinflationary environment being accentuated by the looming fiscal austerity and the shared sacrifice this entails at all levels of society.
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Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:20 | 3037694 Insideher Trading
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Plunge off the fiscal cliff.

Don't raise the debt ceiling.

Problems solved.

So there are still needles in the haystack for equity investors in a lingering disinflationary environment being accentuated by the looming fiscal austerity and the shared sacrifice this entails at all levels of society.

There are also still pennies in front of steamrollers. Good luck!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:56 | 3037907 ihedgemyhedges
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Quoting Rosie: "The downward trend in "eating out" has broader connotations, by the way."

Being married 18 years, I can tell you from PERSONAL experience that eating out is not encouraged in my house....and going down is not in a downward trend anymore either unless you count zero to zero to zero to zero as a trend.....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:02 | 3038075 goldfish1
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Businesses can only price up to what consumers are willing to pay. It is households that determine whether or not we have inflation, not some bureaucrat in Washington who believes he has control over some printing press.

 

B U L L S H I T. Put 100 loaves of bread on the shelf and bring in 200 people.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 01:23 | 3038300 derek_vineyard
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what fiscal debt crisis?  obama will just invoke an emergency executive order and direct bernanke at his discretion on Jan 1

he'd be in hawaii already, but he has to wait until his opposition folds their hand or losses in a 'call' of their hand

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 02:46 | 3038435 Dan The Man
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Not sure I agree with the notion that the ppl make the decision on inflation.  Its really made FOR them.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 04:05 | 3038502 akak
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Rosenberg is here, as he so often is, absolutely full of shit.

Businesses can only price up to what consumers are willing to pay. It is households that determine whether or not we have inflation, not some bureaucrat in Washington who believes he has control over some printing press.

Fuck you Rosenberg, as you obviously have NEVER studied any trace of monetary history, not even that of just the last couple of decades.  In literally hundreds of examples, inflations and hyperinflations have roared ahead DESPITE the inability of the households of those nations to pay for it.  In fact, where has it ever happened otherwise?  That is the very POINT of inflation: to steal from the many for the benefit of the few.  When has "ability to pay" EVER had anything to do with it?  Currency debasement is going to happen regardless of the pain inflicted on the subjects by their overlords --- with the "ability to pay for it" being manifested in a declining standard of living, something which not coincidentally has accompanied EVERY inflationary epoch in every nation, with the only variable being the degree of that decline.

Rosenberg obviously is still under the spell of Keynesian quackpottery, with its misguided belief that 'demand-pull inflation" is the only possible phenomenon that can lead to rising prices.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 05:20 | 3038548 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

Rosenberg obviously is still under the spell of Keynesian quackpottery, with its misguided belief that 'demand-pull inflation" is the only possible phenomenon that can lead to rising prices.

Rosenberg illustrates that the state of "modern" mainstream economics is comparable to that of medieval mainstream medical practice. The ill are taken to the village barber for a good bloodletting. If a patient dies, it is their own fault for not wanting to recover.

Clearly Mugabe was not at fault for what happened in Zimbabwe. The people there were simply hungering for inflation more than they were for food.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 05:31 | 3038557 akak
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Muchly the truthiness with the words postings made of you glorious wisdom falling down with praise now are turning smiles and mass handclapping celebrationizing up!

 

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 05:52 | 3038573 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Promising pattern of things and true to Keynesian economics is somehow what puts places like Easter Island on the map. As a means, time passes by and obvious facts to deny only grow more obvious.

Bear with it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:20 | 3037702 tooriskytoinvest
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Pastor Lindsey Williams & Robert Litan & Grover Norquist: Obama To Tax Middle Class Into Oblivion! It'll Take $9 Trillion In Cuts To Fix U.S. Debt. IT IS COMING - '$3 TRILLION TAX INCREASE ON MIDDLE CLASS'.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/pastor-lindsey-williams-robert-litan-grover-norquist-obama-to-tax-middle-class-into-oblivion-itll-take-9-trillion-in-cuts-to-fix-u-s-debt-it-is-coming-3-trillion-tax-increase-on-m/

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:34 | 3037845 I think I need ...
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everythings fine mate

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:34 | 3037846 I think I need ...
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everythings fine mate

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:30 | 3037717 DoChenRollingBearing
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EVERYBODY is going to get whacked by higher taxes.

And it will not do anything.  They won`t cut spending

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:58 | 3037775 Atomizer
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L.I.B. It’s the most cost effective way to get off this taxpayer funded high-speed fiscal express train. If now there is no more money, the subhuman feeders will parish.

Let it burn! 

Sub Humans-Human Error

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:37 | 3037854 Errol
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In addition to increasing taxes, most folks will experience a lower standard of living as the debtapalooza winds down and the inexorable increase in the real cost of energy consumes a larger slice of the income pie.  Folks may as well downsize on their own terms before they get downsized involuntarily. 

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 06:27 | 3038597 goldfish1
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Most folks but not the 1%+++

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:29 | 3037718 LawsofPhysics
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What a joke. There can never be "shared sacrifice" so long as a select few can print up money or have access to free money. But don't worry Rosy, you dumb fuck, there will be sacrifices.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:38 | 3037732 August
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"It is households that determine whether or not we have inflation, not some bureaucrat in Washington who believes he has control over some printing press."

So, if "households" all take their W.I.N. buttons very, very seriously, Ben and his ilk can print to infinity with no worries.  Who knew! 

If the author is seriously maintaining that ordinary consumers are responsible for inflation, not central bankers, then this seems to be a dis-information effort on someone's part.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:58 | 3037776 GottaBKiddn
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Exactly! Households don't create inflation, and don't have any control over it. Printing ponzi cash is inflation. And, you can be sure that prices and taxes will soar, and housholders will only be able to scream and cry themselves to sleep, while the "Planners"  toast champagne to their success. Shared my ass.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:33 | 3037837 Quinvarius
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Everyone lost their dam minds when they got destroyed shorting with CNBC into QEternity with QE4 coming right around the corner.  So now printing doesn't matter because they were wrong about it not coming?  Everyone is so stupidly bearish, this market can only go up.  Oh yeah, and they are blowing the money supply through the roof. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:49 | 3038178 Bicycle Repairman
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"W.I.N. buttons"

LOL.  I flipped mine over, so it was a N.I.M. button.  No Immediate Miracles.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 09:55 | 3038936 Lucius Corneliu...
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I believe that the point he is trying to make is that the system used to deliver inflation is broken.  Nobody wants more debt and in fact are rejecting it and paing it down.  The only delivery mechanism left for expanding the debt is the public balance sheet which is being used in spades by the political class.  However, total credit (M3) is still stagnant as more debt is being paid down and defaulted on than is being monetized.  Another recession will serve to accelerate the downward trend of M3.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:47 | 3037747 nmewn
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Check please! ;-)

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:52 | 3037759 Caviar Emptor
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Ahem. Let's recap: Costs? Up! Earnings? Down!

As predicted for, ahem, a while here. Just another drop in the biflationary bucket, just another of a million ways that buying power for individuals and business will wither away. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:15 | 3037805 Atomizer
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Many thanks with regard to paying attention to my broken record. At times, ponder whether my posts fall on deaf ears.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:55 | 3037769 GubbermintWorker
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This coming era kind of makes me glad that I am in my senior years. I do not envy younger people of today.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:12 | 3037800 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Hear ya, me too.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:14 | 3037802 wisefool
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Right there with you brother. But I am hoping (for them) that we go off the cliff, reboot this thing, so they never have to understand how we got here. Might prevent them from acidentally trying the same things.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:25 | 3037823 Atomizer
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Whenever they're running thru the streets and shitting their pants in fear, they’ll know we mean business. For the time being, allow them to establish the romper room NSA nanny state program. Winks.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:22 | 3037810 Jack Burton
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Sacrifice? That will become real when we start to fund the empire with tax revenues instead of borrowed money. A 1 trillion a year military bill. Up to now this has been borrowed and put on the deficit. Iraq and Afghanistan were both credit card wars, they were not funded at all, they were put on the deficit. Iran and Syria must now be conquered, as of now the only way to do it is to borrow the cash and then send in the bombers. This is no joke, we actually do fight our wars that way. We went into Iraq and paid Zero % of the cost, we were invited to go shopping instead, and leave the bill for the grandkids. If only I was joking, who would argue that I am wrong? We got to this massive deficit by borrowing to fund the war machine and to bail out the failed business model of the banks. Not to mention all the hand outs that special interests get via buying politicians with free money.

We deserve what we have gotten, because we refuse NOT to vote out the ass clowns who run congress. Sure we replace a republican with a democrat or replace a democrat with a republican from time to time. We call THAT change?

Either vote evry useless prick out of office when you get a chance or nothing will ever change. No American should ever vote for a democrat, no American should ever vote for a republican. They are members of the same criminal class, one party one police state criminal enterprise that we call Modern America.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:37 | 3037855 wisefool
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Two cooroborating points.

1. Bloomberg was running canned "cliff"  segments today showing small businesses that support the norfolk ship yards. Norman rockwell stuff. The town elder saying "We have to pay our taxes, our medical costs, for obamacare and other programs" Showed the 20ish man in carharts working hard outside in some rural town. "These government contracts support our businesses."

if you use google maps,  there is a pretty good chance you can see the USS George Bush in port.

2. Timmay was on the MSM sunday shows this sunday.  ALL OF THEM. he said we have 900B per year of war savings. That will pay for the social programs, but we still need the tax  increases to  balance the budget.   Of  course, the republicans called this absurd. But technically timmay is right.

I contend that the young man in bib overalls will  probably be doing the exact same things he was doing in that rural town outside of Norfolk ... whether the USS George Bush is there, the USS Timmay Geithener is parked there, or the USS Minnow is parked there.

The only people who will loose out are the DBags like gingrich who get $100,000 to make 4 or 5 speaking engagements in MIC boardrooms. Teaching the noble history of the arms industry to billionaire executives. Thats why it is so hard to vote these useless pricks out of office ... as you mentioned.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 06:33 | 3038604 goldfish1
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Senate report faults San Diego 'zombie' exercises

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/dec/05/san-diego-agencies-and-compan...

"A staged zombie attack on Mission Bay is among questionable expenses of $7 billion in Homeland Security money called out Wednesday in a report from Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

San Diego received $134 million under the program, and expenses here were highlighted repeatedly in the report.

The zombie attack was justified as a simulation of a stressful combat-type event for first responders to experience. It took place this year on Halloween, with 40 hired actors at Paradise Point Resort & Spa."

Shared sacrifice indeed.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:25 | 3037817 Quinvarius
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This guy has gone full retard.

It is not the public that decides on inflation.  It is the printing press.

Velocity gets cut in half right off the bat every time you double the money supply.  That is just how the math works.  Using it as an example just illustrates your ignorance.

Only an idiot bottom fishes in a distressed asset, like bonds in a debt crisis, before they actually drop in price.

We don't have a deflation problem.  We never did.  Our problem is inflation, and has been for the last 100 years.  Debt default in a debt based fiat currency causes hyperinflation.  Pick a South American country and check the case studies.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:45 | 3038171 Central Bankster
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The problem with deflationists is that they always measure deflation by the value of financial assets like stocks or real estate (rents), or by the yields on bonds as proof of deflation.  Japan is a great exmaple of the deflation boogeyman that doesn't exist, Japan has had rampant inflation in food, energy, gold etc. but deflation in financial assets.  Its hilarious that they don't understand that inflation hits different assets at different times and at different intensities.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:26 | 3037825 tooriskytoinvest
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BREAKING: Income tax will exceed 50% in California, Hawaii, and New York City

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:26 | 3037826 Jim B
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Personally, I don't see any government austerity; they will spend until they collapse the system.  They will hope to be out of office when the piper needs to be paid.  

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:31 | 3037836 GubbermintWorker
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But man, they sure are adept at kicking the can down the road!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:30 | 3037833 knukles
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This is what happens i a deleveraging hangover post money bubble.
Everybody gets hurt.
Well, almost everybody.... the oligarchy continues to make out like the bandits they are, the sociopaths they are. caring not for the pain and misery shared by the peasantry, the treasure extracted at the point of a spear.

Thanks, fellas....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:40 | 3037864 Atomizer
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Just be patient knukles. Leading the herd is easier than figuring out if they see a mirage or an oasis.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:35 | 3037848 pslater
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"As the tax base gets broadened and entitlement reform takes hold,....."

Where?  In Zimbabwe?  The unions just won the election for Obummer and it's payback time now.

Obummer WANTS to off the fiscal cliff.  When the first items on your agenda upon becoming President are the destruction of:

1. The country's industrial base (see, GM, Chrysler, etc.)

2. The finacial sector (TBTF banks)

3. The Health care sector (see the 'Afforadable care Act')

and

4. The energy industry (see gas prices doubling, cutting drilling permits, and generally villifying the entire industry)

You only have one agenda:  The destruction of the American way of life leading to the ultimate radical dream - one world goverment.

Ps.  Why does Obummer want to go off the fiscal cliff?  $500 billion in cuts to the military.  The fiscal cliff was Obummer's idea and he could never get these cuts through Congress.  He could care less about cuts to discretionary spending.  How better to weaken America than by gutting its military?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:37 | 3037856 hairball48
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"... In the case of Government, solvency will be restored by reducing non-essential services and severely means-testing entitlements while increasing taxes and user fees..."

Good fucking luck with that plan. Who exactly will be voting for that agenda? And when?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:28 | 3038141 Things that go bump
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I don't think we get to vote on this.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:41 | 3037867 JustACitizen
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Personally, if the American people turned over a new leaf - learned to filter or ignore advertising, lived within their means and enjoyed their relations with family/friends instead of "things" - I would rejoice. If we rediscovered the virtues of honesty, tolerance and hard work - I would be inspired - and I like to think others would too.

Imagine:  Politicians who create their own "facts" nay "universe" held up for ridicule and derision. CEO's forced to demonstrate their personal contributions to company success - and not some consultant flunky's recommendation to a "Board" of fellow ass-clowns in order to justify their payplan. Imagine a marketplace where track records mattered - books were based on facts/cash - and integrity could not be "bought".

I do not know if we have hit rock-bottom in our degredation - but - I sure hope to see a rebirth in the importance of character in my lifetime. I feel like a frickin' joke with all of my antiquated notions...

Good luck to all. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:06 | 3037933 nmewn
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You are not alone.

Somewhere down the line integrity will make a come back...as will shame and dishonor. As will character and honesty. I'll let it be known now, apologies and contrition will mean next to nothing to me in weighing the deeds done.

Just because someone begs for forgiveness or mercy does not mean its automatically granted...not by the old schoolers.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 01:34 | 3038315 Tirpitz
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"Somewhere down the line integrity will make a come back"

Won't be easy to beat the allure of a quick billion or two in rigged profits of the Goldman type...

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 19:34 | 3040941 Monkeyfister
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It'll only come back when the Banksters are in REAL prison, facing long terms of incarceration, and crippling fines. That's the only way to keep the rest in line.

 

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 01:42 | 3038336 Pareto
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Agreed.  I think eventually there will be a return to those work ethics you speak of.  Forced austerity has a way of changing habits and expectations and rather quickly.  But not before Maslow's heiarchy of needs, and Kubler-Ross's 5 stages of grief have occurred.  I don't imagine that we are as close to "change" or correction as many think.  I think we can stay in this funk for some time.  Hope has an incedible way of maintaining a sense of denial.  So long as people can see that there is a way out, that there is an opportunity for a do over without any pain, things won't change much, in my opinion.  Consumption patterns will fall, people will do less because they have less, but, they will still believe in the American dream.  And thats a powerful thing since nowhere else in the world does the capitalization of an opportunity mean so much.  At least, that used to be the case.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:53 | 3037896 Joebloinvestor
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Wait until they finally disclose that the $250k meant COMBINED, not individual income!

 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:53 | 3037897 Joebloinvestor
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Wait until they finally disclose that the $250k meant COMBINED, not individual income!

 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:05 | 3037931 wisefool
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Of course. And that the $200,000 indivdual income only applies if you are in certain professions. Otherwise it is $125,000

Not looking forward to the next generation of kids comming out of medical school paying 35% tax rates when they are trying to become doctors. Meanwhile Mitt Romney pays 13% on $300MM  fortune. Or (with respect, but for the liberal example) a fire fighter who works 3 days per week, retires at 40 with full benes and tax free 90% pension....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:36 | 3038151 Oldwood
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When you have a game that everyone thinks is unfair, its much easier to justify cheating or at the very least playing to the very edge of the rules.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:42 | 3038167 wisefool
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Sounds very similar to attributes of the stylish man with red skin, neatly trimmed beard, horns and a pitch fork. "My greatest trick was convincing everybody  ..."

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 02:12 | 3038399 Caggge
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A firefighter who retires at 40 with full benefits that aren't taxed that never put out a fire that he didn't start. I am sure that if you add up all the pay and benefits for firefighters it would far exceed just letting stuff burn down once in a while.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:07 | 3037939 Atomizer
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No disposable income, no new growth. A unhealthy overweight government is certainly not unable to cover it’s expenses for state public worker’s on the taxpayer dole. Something always gives in as soon as the money runs dry!

Take a guess in the final outcome...

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:16 | 3037956 Catullus
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I might believe that households push up inflation with the new money from the printing press. But so long as other countries continue to print the way they are, everything in the US is on sale at a big discount to them right now. That's why you see Brazilians buying up high end rentals in Miami. Or Europeans coming to the US to buy things here and bringing it back to Europe. Supply can be easily take down by the someone other than the US consumer.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 01:29 | 3038312 Tirpitz
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If even a slight amount of the vast amounts of freshly printed monies would make it to the consumer, he'd have a chance to contribute to higher prices. Too bad Shalom Bernanke concentrates his efforts solely onto his banking buddies.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:02 | 3038074 alfbell
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Households determine if we have inflation?!

Wow! That any economist could think that blows my mind!!!!

What total ignorance of the way things work.

The Fed, Congress and White House are always trying to pin inflation on the consumer. That is so old hat.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 01:20 | 3038294 Tirpitz
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"... as everyone joins in to redress a national balance sheet that has gone parabolic."

Almost everyone that is. So far no contributions from the 70+ trillion in offshored wealth are to be seen.

"Everybody talks about how ultra-low long-term interest rates have nowhere to go but up..."

'Everybody' - time to be on the contrarian side of this trade? Japan's "decade" is twenty years old and going.

"...in a lingering disinflationary environment being accentuated by the looming fiscal austerity and the shared sacrifice this entails at all levels of society."

Again, most levels of society, but by far not all. And the disinflationary environment may well prove to turn into an outright depressionary scenario, where the weak bond yields are the only income a prudent investor may reasonably expect.

The long bond chart definitely looks bullish these days.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 03:04 | 3038453 q99x2
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I'll sacrifice my shadow by turning out the lights and going to sleep now. It's late and that's all I can afford.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 05:47 | 3038564 newengland
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Shared sacrifice? Nonsense. 

Banks  were bailed out by ordinary tax paying people.

 The Trilateral  Commission and their shills continue a spoilt brat spat with their blood brothers in the Middle East.

As dual citizens, they play it both ways. If the USA dies, they go elsewhere. If the USA lives, they exploit the USA.

There is no shared sacrifice when dual citizens send honest Americans to endless war for the profit of the shills, and their hateful inbred AshkeNAZI, led by foreigners: the insane inbred British, European, Russian, House of Saud kingdoms.

The Republic of the USA was founded on the idea that it is self-sufficient, a friend to all, trades with all, and does not interfere in the self-determination of other nations.

 

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 05:42 | 3038567 dunce
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Govt employee compensationis not tied to increased productivity, only to increased appropriations from people whose compensation is directly tied to productivity so thier increased contibutions are just a book keeping entry.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 06:43 | 3038609 koaj
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Shared sacrifice???

FUCK OFF...i waited 2-3 years later than we wanted to to buy a house because i knew what was happening in 07. i dont take vacations or buy new cars but i am more or less debt fucking free except for the mortgage. no student loans (paid off), no cc debt, no 10 tvs either

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 09:57 | 3038939 Commander Cody
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This latest post has conclusively proven: Rosenberg = Status Quo Asshole.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 19:29 | 3040930 Monkeyfister
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Rosenberg says: "To think that the nation could have ever gone to war in Iraq and in Afghanistan under the Bush regime, putting our troops at great risk not to mention the emotional scars on their families, while here at home civilians would be allowed to enjoy tax cuts and a debt-financed consumption binge..."

 

Ummm... Bush INSISTED that those wars NEVER be allowed to be put into the National Budget-- EVER. Every single penny of financing of those wars under his rigime was off-budget, 100% deficit-borrowed... While he gave the top 2% a second and then a third scoop of Tax Breaks. He then told us, in late 2001, to "Go shopping-- go to Disney World," and Alan Greenspan told everyone to jump into those Adjustable Rate Mortgages, making Fixed-Rate Mortgages a nearly extinct species for six years. 

NOW Rosenberg wants to pretend that never happened, and the poor, working and middle-classes have to suffer more, because criminals in nice suits got away with their crimes?

BULLSHIT.

And Rosenberg doesn't give a rat's ass about the Troops. In 12 years, he never spilled so much as a single pixle on their behalf, until pulling this stinky loaf out of his cynical ass.


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