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Night Of The Long Knives: 'Fake' Conservative John Boehner Purges The GOP

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Is this really the reason why markets are rallying today? (or is it front-running the potential 'cone of silence' from a long-weekend in DC) We suspect neither, but Mike Krieger, having written extensively on the two-party political sham, notes the issue is that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are at their core the same on the big issues most affect these United States at this timeThis past election should have been a wakeup call to the Republican establishment, but based on John Boehner’s recent actions, they have learned absolutely nothing.  The Republican Party is imploding from within since its leaders don’t actually stand for anything.  Here is how Mr. Boehner treats those within his party that do stand for something.


Via Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

I have written about the two-party political sham for many years now.  At its root, the issue is that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are at their core the same on the big issues most affect these United States at this time.  These issues are:

  1. The Federal Reserve scam and Wall Street theft.
  2. Civil liberties and the destruction of the Constitution.
  3. Our aggressive foreign policy and imperial wars abroad that help only the oligarchs and impoverish the masses.

Then they divide and conquer the masses using relatively irrelevant social issues like gay marriage, which are highly charged emotionally but will not affect your ability to put food on the table.

This past election should have been a wakeup call to the Republican establishment, but based on John Boehner’s recent actions, they have learned absolutely nothing.  The Republican Party is imploding from within since its leaders don’t actually stand for anything.  Here is how Mr. Boehner treats those within his party that do stand for something.

From the Huffington Post:

On Monday, the Republican Steering Committee, which is chaired by House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), voted to remove Reps. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) and Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) from the House Budget Commtitee. Reps. David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) and Walter Jones (R-N.C.) lost their positions on the Financial Services Committee.


The four members are known for occasionally bucking leadership and voting against Boehner’s wishes. Amash, Huelskamp and Schweikert are popular with the conservative movement, while Jones has made a name for himself by speaking out against U.S. involvement in Afghanistan.


Reuters notes that removing Amash and Huelskamp from the Budget Committee “could make it easier for the panel to advance a deal with Democrats to cut fiscal deficits” — which is exactly what many conservative groups are afraid of.


Huelskamp unloaded on GOP leadership Tuesday at a Heritage Foundation event in Washington, saying, “We were not notified about what might occur but it confirms in my mind the deepest suspicions that most Americans have about Washington D.C: it’s petty, it’s vindictive, and if you have conservative principles you will be punished.”


“It’s a slap in the face to all young people who are thinking about being Republicans, want to be a part of this party, and are being told, ‘Well, if you disagree with leadership just a couple times we’re going to send you home … you don’t get to participate,’” he said.


Jones said he hasn’t yet spoken to Boehner. In fact, he only found out he lost his spot on the committee when his staff read about it on the Internet.

Talk about classless.  These guys apparently weren’t even notified of their demotions ahead of time and had to read about it in the press.  The message to the citizenry is clear.  We must move away from the two-party system and fast.  That way we can elect candidates that actually vote the will of the people that elected them, rather than pander to some slimy political godfather in Washington.


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Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:13 | 3036643 redpill
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In intimate closed-door negotiations, Obama reportedly experienced Boehner for more than 4 hours.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:22 | 3036681 kaiserhoff
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Pardon me, Tylers.  I must have reached the wrong URL.  Is this the same ZERO HEDGE that bitched and moaned for the last two years that there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES??????

And now Boehner won't save you from the thug commie?   Tough titties.  Ideas have consequences.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:26 | 3036704 redpill
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Uh, if anything this reality reinforces the thesis.  At the end of the day those in control of the parties are little different from each other.  They let fringe candidates talk the talk, but when it comes to action they get shoved in the closet while the one party rule continues unchecked.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:35 | 3036739 OttoMBMP
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Democracy is such a great export good of the U.S. that the marketing efforts can and should be supported by the armed forces. Since 1917. A huge success.

Interesting that your Founding Fathers didn't like the product.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:39 | 3036771 nope-1004
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LOL.  Democracy is exported, fascism is praticed domestically.

Fraud, baby!!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:48 | 3036807 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Obama told all of those CEO's today that they were patriots, not facists.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:58 | 3036827 Popo
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The easiest way to enforce fiscal conservatism would be for all the Republicans to go on vacation and let the USA go over the fiscal cliff.   There's really no simpler or more obvious way to balance the budget.   Debt limits are there for a reason.  They're LIMITS.  The Republicans should turn out the lights,  send their staffers on a month long holiday and go home and start working on ways to handle the fallout from the newly balanced budget which they have already brilliantly balanced simply by not being in D.C. and raising the limit.  The fact that the Republicans are all sitting around discussing concessions shows that they're totally full of shit.  

This whole thing is a joke.  Doing NOTHING solves the problem.  The fact that they're doing SOMETHING shows that there's no interest in solving the problem.


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:03 | 3036858 Crisismode
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Ummmmm ................


If the Fiscal Cliff happened it DOES NOT by any means balance the budget.


AND, there is no budget in the first place, hasn't been one in several years now.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:10 | 3036887 ndotken
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Presidebt Obama said today that the fiscal cliff can be fixed in a week ... whew ... I feel so much better now. /sarc

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:46 | 3037443 Michaelwiseguy
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The GOP has completely dissociated themselves from the Ron Paul Liberty movement numbering at 10 to 20 million registered Republican voters. The GOP is still in complete control of the Republican MSM TV talking points where their mode is preserving the establishment and promoting the status quo. They use the same old lame brain valueless platitudes that they think they can still brainwash the people with.

The entire MSM is still completely against the Ron Paul Liberty movement and for good reason. They understand they can't win any of our liberty hearts and minds. We will use this fact to our advantage continuing to do things behind their backs. Just like we did making their GOP nominees lose elections for ignoring us.

Listen to a Ron Paul supporter gloat about voting for Obama and why.

For Pure Unadulterated Revenge. That's all this is about.

Alex Jones Caller Ron Paul Revenge Voters For Obama 11/09/2012

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:51 | 3038185 strannick
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Democracy: America's greatest extort.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 07:24 | 3038637 GetZeeGold
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We're all socialist marxists now comrades.


We'll all be on the cover of the Rolling Stone.....err.....Newsweek.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 10:12 | 3038991 Flakmeister
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Newsweek no longer has a cover....

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 02:43 | 3038430 Cornfedbloodstool
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I gave you a +1, then I hit a link to Alex Jones -50

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:11 | 3036893 derek_vineyard
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i dis-associated myself from all politics and particulary the republican party at least a decade ago. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:51 | 3037035 CH1
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It's amazing how much time and energy it saves, isn't it?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:13 | 3036903 redpill
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I believe he meant not raising the debt ceiling would in effect force a balanced budget.  Unfortunately even if the Republicans had a spine and refused to raise it, I can guarantee you this admin would find a way to raise it anyway, through executive order if he had to.  When push comes to shove, the Leviathan always wins, and the Leviathan always grows.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:18 | 3036928 redpill
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Sorry for the long cut and paste, but it just so happened a note from Gary Johnson just landed in my e-mail box:




Have you been watching the insanity in Washington about the so-called Fiscal Cliff?

If so, you are seeing the same thing I am:  It is all a concoction by the status quo politicians to distract us from the REAL cliff we are headed for.

To listen to the politicians in both parties, you would believe this is all about taxes.  Somehow, the nation is approaching financial calamity because the government isn’t getting enough of our money.  And the two “sides” have managed to create the illusion that the debate is over how to best increase “revenues”.  (In Washington, of course, increasing revenue means turning more of our dollars into THEIR dollars.)

Here is how the charade is playing out:  President Obama is demanding that the so-called Bush tax cuts be allowed to expire for what he calls the wealthy to produce $800 billion in more “revenue” for the government.  In what only a politician could call a negotiation, the Republican Speaker of the House has countered with an offer to – you guessed it – raise revenues (taxes) by $800 billion.

If this wasn’t so serious, it would be laughable.

The only difference between the two “sides” is what they want to call their plan for the government to suck almost another trillion dollars out of the private economy to finance their wars, their take-over of our health care, and the never-ending erosions of our freedom.

Obama wants to call this money-grab a “rate increase” for the wealthy.  Speaker Boehner wants to call it “closing loopholes”.  I’m not seeing the difference.  The money all ends up coming from the same place.  Ask a school teacher or a construction worker how many “loopholes” they used last year to reduce their tax bill.

So why are the grown men and women in Washington playing this ridiculous parlor game?  It’s simple. They don’t want to talk about the real problem: Government is too big and does too much – and therefore spends too much.  And they certainly don’t want to talk about REAL tax reform, such as scrapping the income tax altogether and replacing it with a consumption tax.  Without their spending and their loopholes and complex rates, the politicians would lose the opportunity to pass out favors to their friends – and that is not something they want to give up, even at the cost of destroying the economy.

Right now, we need to be demanding that the politicians stop the games and deal with the real issues:  Deficit spending as far as the eye can see and a debt that is already more than $16 trillion.  The claim by Obama – and bought into by the Republicans – that we can’t balance the federal budget without raising taxes is nonsense.  Stop the wars, have a serious debate about Medicare and other entitlements,  stop sending borrowed dollars to other countries, and spending can absolutely be brought into line with revenues – without raising taxes on anybody, rich or poor.

Restoring Liberty as a cornerstone of America starts with making government smaller.  And making government smaller starts with drawing a line and stopping the politicians from taking more of our money.  More money for them means more government imposed on us.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:35 | 3036989 VisualCSharp
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Here fucking HERE!

So succinctly put! That is precisely what the problem is!

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 00:52 | 3038271 andyupnorth
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Thank you fellow Zero Hedgers for bringing Gary Johnson to light, and no thanks to the Mainstream Media for never having mentioned him during the presendential race!

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 03:05 | 3038455 prains
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less govt is also the mantra of corptocracies that want to capture markets and create monopolies for themselves by being unregulated. This in turn enables them to manipulate their position to maximum benefit and in one word become ENRON.

SO CARFEFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. Regulation can work when not captured by the corptocracies they are meant to control. What you have in America is a regulatory system so fucking corrupted by special interest and lobbyists

that Enron looks like the play doe version of the statue of david. Regulating a corporation like Enron properly would never allowed them the opportunity they manufactured for themselves if done wisely, rather it's how the oligarchs have

corrupted the regulatory process that has so contaminated the idea of regulation.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:53 | 3037040 Winston Churchill
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Even a trillion in one year plus the taz hikes doesn't run a budget surplus.

They are talking about one Tn over ten years,maybe.

The Christmas pantomime running in DC this year solves nothing either way.

It's just the village idiots arguing over the deckchair placement on the

Titanic at this point.They are tinkering with the pumps as the flooding pours in/out.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:07 | 3036879 MiltonFriedmans...
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What is the difference, exactly?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:53 | 3036824 edb5s
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Do as we say, not as we do

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:35 | 3036743 The trend is yo...
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They only really speak to their constituients, ie GS, WFC, AIG, MS, C, PFE, XOM  et al.  No difference in party, they are only true to their own wallets

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:16 | 3036914 LongSoupLine
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There is a fucking two party system...


Party #1 - The one in their fucking pants.

Party #2 - The party in their bloated fucking bank accts from front running their own fucking horseshit talking points, getting kickbacks from TBTF and corporate interests and "legislation" decisions.

Fuck you Congress and every crooked politician from Chicago and beyond.  Go fuck yourself.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:31 | 3037219 Coast Watcher
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. The two-party system gives Americans one more choice than North Korea, and about as much difference.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:15 | 3038110 ceilidh_trail
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I'm stealing your line.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:35 | 3036745 Dr. Richard Head
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Martial Law TARP was the turning point for me and made me realize what you so accurately pointed out.  I haven't gone back on the idea of the two-party farce ever since.  Trust me, I have tried to do so.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:38 | 3036999 wisefool
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Chicago is a bi-partisan town. Last I heard, Hank "tanks in the streets" Paulson, former Republican SEC-TRES is teaching the next generation of economists at University of Chicago,

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:57 | 3037057 duo
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Rahm Emmanuel standing in front of you naked in the House gym telling you that pictures of your daughters were going up on the internet if you didn't vote for Obamacare would be a turning point for you, if you were in congress.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:29 | 3037207 dark pools of soros
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wasnt it a kick to the balls that when TARP failed the first time, it was not really the last gasp of freedom, but really just more blackmail in action?  Then they screwed the public even more by asking for a bigger TARP to include the ransom money to bribe those other 13 votes... 

If they would of asked for 2 trillion they could of spreaded it all around and voted unanimously for TARP


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:37 | 3036760 kaiserhoff
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Read the piece and think.  Lack of institutional memory is one thing.  Brain farts are another.

If you want conservatives to protect the rule of law and basic human liberties, a good first step would be to STOP PISSING ON THEM.  and lighten up on the paranoid schizophreic, the whole world is a conspiracy theory.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:41 | 3036781 redpill
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Pretty hard to piss on "conservatives" when there are so few of them.  What was conservative about what they did in the Bush years when they controlled Congress and the WH?  Giant new Medicare entitlement?  New federal education programs?  Tax cuts with EXPIRATION DATES?  Government-sponsored housing bubble?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:45 | 3036797 kaiserhoff
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and the answer to that is what?  run away and hide under the covers in Mom's basement?

No difference between the parties is not an answer.  It's a cowardly, childish, excuse for inaction.

The world won't devote itself to making you happy.   Whaaaaaa!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:47 | 3036804 redpill
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Now you're projecting.  You're the one running back to hide in the skirts of the establishment.  If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.  And spineless individuals who refuse to recognize their "team" sucks as much as the other one does are part of the problem.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:54 | 3036830 kaiserhoff
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Thanks for proving my point.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:09 | 3036883 redpill
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You never had a point, you only had excuses for continuing to support an establishment party that abandoned its fiscal principles years ago.  And like so many suckers you continue to believe their rhetoric as they turn around and do the exact opposite when it gets down to brass tax.  Unbelievable.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:37 | 3036994 VisualCSharp
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redpill, you are on a fucking roll today!

Keep posting!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:58 | 3037059 JohnnyBriefcase
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Fuck Yeah Bitchez!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:51 | 3037036 kaiserhoff
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It is so easy to sit on your ass and disapprove of everything and everyone.  Good luck in the adult world.  You"ll need it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:58 | 3037777 victor82
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Look, I'm sorry. I wanted to think that after 2008 the GOP might have turned over a new leaf.

They didn't.The Beltway GOP is willing to wait its turn for Jeb as long as they get their turn at the trough.

The Rockefeller/Prescott Bush wing of the Party attacked any one from Palin to Ron Paul who might have stood for fiscal restraint and actually moving towards a budget that might be manageable. That's because the party of Jeb and the party of Obama/Clinton is the Warfare/Welfare Party, and Warfare and Welfare are the Health of the State.

The bond vigilantes can't assfuck these guys hard enough. The reason the can is being kicked down the road is because the Wall Street banksters want it done that way.

Please don't place your faith in the GOP: it gave is Willard "Mitt" Romney.

Because nominating Daddy Warbucks is what the GOP does when it does "ethnic outreach".

Unfortunately, most folks are going to be collateral damage when the dealing's done.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:35 | 3037234 Calmyourself
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Redpill, almost there now help me across the finish line with a path forward without dead elephants and jackasses cuttering up our childrens future..

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:54 | 3037764 PAWNMAN
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I agree with most of what you state. But if your not prepared to arm yourself and take to the streets, nothing will change. Bloviating on a blog may relieve some of the frustration, thats about it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:06 | 3038085 TimmyM
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Kaiser, Redpill owns you today. Now go wash up and see if you learned something.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:58 | 3037915 A Nanny Moose
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The belief that somebody else will save you, and solve your problems for you, is what is cowardly.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:48 | 3036806 Dr. Richard Head
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You forgot the light bulb ban those damned liberals (signed by Bush in 2005) pushed on us -

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:22 | 3037175 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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Good one, thanks.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 18:03 | 3037339 Harbanger
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It wasn't liberals who wanted the light bulb ban, it was progressives, Bush was a progressive republican.  Progressives have been slowly regulating us into a totalitarian state.  Destroying us in order to transform us has always been their plan.  The only liberals left today are libertarians and some conservatives who cherish liberty and the constitution. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:54 | 3036820 RKDS
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Don't forget two wars on a credit card, the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act, Kelo vs New London, and lots more...


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:37 | 3036991 Things that go bump
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You will notice that not one thing was done about the abortion issue during that time frame, with many of those people being elected on their right to life stance..  It is really such a convenient hot button they couldn't bare to part with it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:21 | 3037162 CommunityStandard
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Yep, the anti-abortion platform is one of those issues that if they solved - less people would have reason to go to the polls to vote for them.  Better to just use it to ramp emotion every election.

Though it would probably help them better to stop saying things like children from rape is God's intention.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:41 | 3036783 Dr. Richard Head
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Hey Kaiserroll,

It is NOT paranoid to point out that Boehner shut out two ELECTED republican from the talks.  Also, the Republicans were very frank in their pushing back against Boehner.  How is that paranoid to point out facts?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:52 | 3036816 kaiserhoff
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Not at all.  The problem is the fallacy of equivocation.  If you can't find allies among those who agree with you most of the time, you will forever be at the mercy of the mob.

My comment was on the HYPOCRISY on bold, bald, exhibit here.  Either there are differences between the parties, or there are not.   You can't have it both ways.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:55 | 3036832 Dr. Richard Head
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People here are saying the parties ARE the same. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:06 | 3036873 kaiserhoff
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The contradiction is IN THE POST.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:01 | 3037064 JohnnyBriefcase
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There are differences in what they say but not in what they actually do.


Hope the bold helps.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:06 | 3037092 TuPhat
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It seems that you didn't actually read the POST or else you can't understand what you read.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:29 | 3037208 keesooi
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And they are eve more the same when guys like Jones, Amash, Huelskamp, et al are out of the way.  Which is the point of the article.  It frustrates me to no end that, despite the fact that each congressman / senator is supposed to be equl, they have been able to introduce things like "seniority" (WTF?) and powerful committee memberships for those who are willing to give blow jobs to the party leadership.   

Kudos to the voters in the districts of these few good men for keeping the dream of liberty of life support.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 18:17 | 3037389 Harbanger
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The parties are the same because both parties are run by progressives.  More so the democrats, but in both parties.  Blue dog Dems and conservative Repubs are on the fringe if not completely extinct.   We need a 3rd party to break up the monopoly.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 19:09 | 3037513 divide_by_zero
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+1 Feingold-McCain campaign "reform" allowed Soros thru his 527 outfits to basically take over funding of the DNC and push them over the extremist Progressive cliff. The Citizen's United decision was actually utilized more by the Progressive's despite their whining about it to form Super PACs. Out here in California in a state election, Bloomberg's PAC in Democrat-Democrat run-off picked off the guy that was against more gun control by pumping $3M into it. Most of the enternched Repub establishment in DC is solid Progressive(Neocon whatever) fully in on the scam.

Unitl we have a free press again, as the Tea Party found out, the Progressive media will attack anyone threatening their stranglehold with BS racist, Nazi, etc smearing making 3rd parties or even movements a rough go. Which always brings up the point, if you want to find out what the Progressive are up to, just listen to what they are accusing others of.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:01 | 3036852 john39
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insignificant differences.... are... well, insignificant.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 18:21 | 3037397 koncaswatch
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No equivocation here: there are differences between the Parties, but the results are the same.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:00 | 3036850 Zap Powerz
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There is simply too much money, too much power and too much control at stake for anything (such as an election) to be left up to chance (or the voting public).  The ruling elite make sure they remain in power at all cost.

In this last election there were about 1.2 million people that understand that and decided to not participate in the fake two party system and they (me included) voted for Gary Johnson.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:19 | 3036934 Pants McPants
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......And the many, many millions who chose to not participate in the scam that is voting?

They're the real heros.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:56 | 3037771 Freddie
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I saw it during the primaries.  I do not watch TV cause that is for serfs who support The Matrix.

On the web you could see Santorum beating Romney in all the midwest states.  Rove was helping Romney.  Then as all the polls were closing - Romney gets tons of votes from the cities in OH, MI, WI.   Totally rigged.

Fast forward to election night.  Same thing happens with Obama.  All night voting in florida cities - total theft.  the GOP, Rush, Hannity and all of them don't say dick about it.

Romney was a setup.  The purge of Conservatives now is the final NWO move.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:39 | 3038025 Go Tribe
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I was wondering today if we even still have a government in the traditional sense of the word. You know, an entity for aggregating a response to citizen needs and ensuring individual liberty surrounds them.

I don't think we do have a government anymore, although a lot of Americans continue viewing those in DC and their activities through that filter. They seem to be working very widely outside the Constitution, which frames government operations, in almost every respect.

So if we no longer have a constitutional government, what is it we have there in DC?

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 02:25 | 3038412 Kobe Beef
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A franchise of a global usury Empire.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:56 | 3036837 mr. mirbach
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Two Party system = two sides of the same coin


Please be elucidated by G. Edward Griffin -

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 07:15 | 3038628 StychoKiller
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Reedin' comprehenshun problem, huh?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:27 | 3036709 NotApplicable
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Meanwhile, Mike Krieger is high on Statism, because, surely, we must be getting close by now...



That grown men can identify a systemic problem, then express hope for the system overcoming it's own inherent limitations (when they are in place by design).

Aren't there ANY adults left, anymore?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:02 | 3036854 Zap Powerz
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Yes, there are adults and they are forbidden from participating in the political process because they say things that hurt feelings.  They are meanies that dont want to give everyone free shit and because they are mean and hurt people's feelings, they are not allowed to be in charge.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:28 | 3036713 ArkansasAngie
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Zeroheads unite. Start the take over of the GOP now

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:36 | 3036751 Dr. Richard Head
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The political process is just submitting to the system.  Asking one's master to be free just reinforces the idea that the master is just that. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:27 | 3037713 steelhead23
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You're too late.  David Koch already has and you cannot defeat him.  I suggest you take over the Libertarian Party, but you'd better hurry, I think Karl Denninger already has it in his sights.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:07 | 3036826 bobthehorse
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We're screwed.  The sky is falling.

Austerity and budget cuts lead to a deflationary depression.

Money printing leads to a Japanese-style endless recession.

The solution?  Tune in, turn on, and drop out.

Screw it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:56 | 3036834 MiltonFriedmans...
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Personally, I find the orange faced one the most repugnant of all Repugnantcunts. 

It is unfortunate, but as Chris Hedges observed, an end to the one party system is unlikely to come through the voting process.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:07 | 3037099 Pooper Popper
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Ill take care of boner...Get me a bannana and some duct tape!!!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:42 | 3037267 lasvegaspersona
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tick tock tick tock tick tock

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 18:55 | 3037484 PSEUDOLOGOI

Would you like Pepsi or Coke?

That's all you can have in USA.

If you understand this, then you know what's up.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:31 | 3037721 lakecity55
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Hmmmmm, who played "catcher" and who played "Pitcher," or were they "switch hitting?"

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:04 | 3036645 The Gooch
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Mr. Tang is a closet progressive?

Hate to break it you, Mike but this mess will not be solved through "politics".

We'll be lucky to make it to the next "election".

EDIT: Mr. Tang ain't done by a damn sight- This is a fucking coup.



Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:14 | 3036648 Dr. Richard Head
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Go ahead and forward this to any dyed-in-the-wool Republican and they will dismiss it because Huffington Post ran it.  Sigh......

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:26 | 3036703 Buckaroo Banzai
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Huffington Post has proven again and again and again that it is a left-biased media source. OF COURSE no real conservative will trust it.

That said, didn't we learn everything we needed to learn about today's Republican party after we saw what they did to Ron Paul at the convention?

Nothing new to see here; move on.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:38 | 3036764 ParkAveFlasher
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Cue the "either with us or against us" BS. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:02 | 3036855 MiltonFriedmans...
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I never thought of Ron Paul as a candidate. He is more of a nidus for a movement. Whether that nidus posses enough energy to overcome it's own gravitational field is at this point doubltful, as the sheeple still seem to be quite somnolent.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:16 | 3036649 fonzannoon
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It's not what they say it's what they do.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:29 | 3036714 NotApplicable
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Gettin' laid, and gettin' paid, bitchez!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:29 | 3037719 lakecity55
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Well, you guys ought hear Miss Lindsey Graham when (s)he comes home.

You'd think it was RR speaking!

He hops the plane back to Pirateland and Presto! Mr Progressive!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:19 | 3036655 Cognitive Dissonance
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No no NO, it's the new and improved conservative John Boehner.

<Propaganda 101>

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:46 | 3036798 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Today's headline:


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 18:15 | 3037383 waterhorse
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I thought it was more "limp dick"

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:17 | 3036656 IllusionOfChoice
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I knew I picked a good avatar!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:59 | 3036848 PeaceMonger
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<-- LP    eh, yours is alright

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:02 | 3037073 JohnnyBriefcase
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I want one in the shape of of a pile of poop.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:03 | 3037657 akak
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The Chinese Citizenism Party?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:28 | 3037714 lakecity55
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Having had a wonderful Hedgehog pet for 7 years, I like yours better.  +1.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:18 | 3036661 Sir Real
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DEM purged the Blue Dogs (fiscal conservatives in the D party)

GOP purges the libertarians/conservatives (fiscal conservatives in the R party)

Now Big Gov neoconservatives and neoliberals will be in complete control to build the welfare and warfare states to unmanagable levels.

Viva the empire!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:54 | 3036828 NotApplicable
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Now, all we need is one of those "The Era of Big Government is Over!" speeches to complete the meme, and then... then out comes the "$20T Question."

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:26 | 3036965 mkkby
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Call them what they really are "big gov IMF neoconservatives/libs.  It's all about surrendering to the banker one world gov elites. And the war is already lost.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:26 | 3037712 lakecity55
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What they Really are is VAMPIRES!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:19 | 3036663 SmoothCoolSmoke
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So these 4 guys got Bone(r)ed. Boo-hoo....happens to people every damn day in the Coprorate America they love so much. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:19 | 3036665 negative rates
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The no-ware man is at it again. Sitting in his no-ware land.  

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:36 | 3036673 Dr. Engali
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Repukes are just as happy letting the demons run the show as they sit back, throw grenades,and pretend like they are the opposition while they slow up the proccess enough to collect the goodies.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:37 | 3036756 Darkdoc
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You'll never get ahead if you keep exposing the Big Lie.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:46 | 3036799 The Shootist
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LOL. Fuck the GOP establishment! R.P. bitchez!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:22 | 3036676 Flakmeister
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The Repubs are having their Star Trek Changeling moment....

It sorta happens when you stop being capable of logically consistent genuflection....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:21 | 3036677 GeezerGeek
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Boehner is part of the Republican establishment. The Republican establishment exists to suppress conservatives to the greatest extent possible. The TPTB consider massive-government Democrats to be Plan A. RINO Republicans are Plan B. They don't like conservatives regardless of racial group or gender. Examples include the treatment of Allen West and Sarah Palin by the Republican establishment One can understand Democrats attacking conservatives, but Republicans too? Rockefeller Republicans had a problem backing Goldwater, if I recall correctly. Conservatives are only acceptable when they vote for RINOs.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:28 | 3036715 koaj
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West and Palin are/were not conservatives. They are what is known as "acceptable alternatives" for the mainstream GOP...West/Palin fans all voted for Romney

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:35 | 3036747 NotApplicable
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I think you mean "clowns in the circus." For instance, Palin's attachment to the Tea Party helped to discredit the movement quicker than anything else TPTB could've come up with.

It's all about having the wrong person tar and feather a concept by endorsing it. My favorite example was when the CEO of Exxon correctly labeled corn-based ethanol as genocide (during the Mexican food riots).

The lefties would rather eat their own tongue before endorsing his statement.

Intellectual straight-jackets, FTMFW!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:52 | 3037037 Flakmeister
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The Tea Party got co-opted by the Kochs through the manuevering of Dick Armey. Whatever it stood for once is no longer the case....

Now the Tea Party is rolling out Marco Rubio as the answer to "The Hispanic Question", another bible thumping repudiator of science and the like....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 19:35 | 3037590 Uncle Remus
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Now that's funny.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:54 | 3036790 Disenchanted
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What's the point of having 'conservatives' around anyway...there's nothing left to conserve.


btw Palin and West in no way no how would be defined as traditional conservatives...or what some now call paleoconservatives, classical conservatives, or the old right. Palin and West are neo-cons through and through.


The neocon's preferred pejoratives for paleoconservatives are antisemites(mainly because of this: "paleos oppose the continuing US financial support of Israel."), isolationists...and a couple of others I can't think of right now.


Edmund Burke is a good example of a classical conservative with Russell Kirk, Robert Nisbet and Joseph Sobran being  other possibilities that come to mind.



Edmund Burke's "A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly," (1791) included the following:


"What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue?
It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and
madness, without restraint.
Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their
disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in
proportion as they are disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise
and good in preference to the flattery of knaves.
Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and
appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the
more there must be without.
It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of
intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters."
Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:05 | 3036869 MiltonFriedmans...
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The corporate elite, the democraps and the repugnantcunt establishment are in a very sick sort of way, the holy trinity.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:06 | 3038086 ceilidh_trail
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Geezer, that's exactly it! Keep your eye on Thomas Massie- R, ky. Met him, a great guy. I hope he doesn't fall under the spell of the dc whorehouse.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:22 | 3036679 PaperBear
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Boehner is signing the GOP’s death warrant.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:25 | 3036701 akak
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It can't come soon enough.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:04 | 3036767 Dr. Richard Head
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Don't be so sure about that.  As of the last election there are still over 57.8 million Republican voters that are still in the belief that "if we just get enough Republicans into the system this can all be fixed."  I have to be careful about even typing that too often as my lunch feels like it will come up.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:54 | 3037047 flattrader
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I keep wondering how GOPERS plan to "reinvent" themselves.

Heard Ryan was testing new "themes" in anticipation of a 2016 run.

I'm thinking same shit, different packaging.

Or perhaps they will drop the culture war bullshit entirely since all the culture warriors that Raygun brought into the party in 1980 are headed to the grave anyway.  The had their last hurrah in the 2010 mid terms.  Formation of the Tea Party was the last desperate gasp.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:36 | 3037227 Vince Clortho
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"I'm thinking same shit, different packaging."

Actually you could extend this to cover both parties.  The big decisions are made by the same people regardless of which party puppet is in the WH.  And this game has been played for a long freaking time.  Its all marketing and managing perceptions.

Unfortunately, as 2013 approaches, the vast majority of voters keep buying into this marketing nonsense.  It apparently never gets too old.  How many times can Lucy pull the football away from Charlie Brown?

People need to question why the media is controlled by a small group of individuals.  Do some research on Operation Mockingbird.  Buy a vowel or two.  Whatever it takes to see the big picture.

Not holding my breath.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:23 | 3037708 lakecity55
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+1. No shit!


We need to suffer an economic catastrophe to bring about a party or movement I will term the "Common Sense" Party, for lack of a better definition.


There may be 50% takers, but there is also 50% Producers, otherwise known as adults in this Republic. Sometimes the whiney little fucks need a smackdown.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:33 | 3038145 MiltonFriedmans...
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2016?  Very doubtful there will be an election.

Martial law Bitchez.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:41 | 3036778 NotApplicable
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You'll never get that lucky.

Just when you think they are down for the count, the Dems will screw something up so badly  that the sheeple will run back to the only shelter they know exists.

Remember, it's the LESSER of two evils at play here. Perception of which can change however, and whenever the MSM is told to do so. Any legitimate movements against this duopoly will be infiltrated/co-opted/marginalized as needed.

You can bet on it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:53 | 3036821 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Boehner is signing the GOP’s death warrant.

Ex post facto.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:23 | 3036680 Pants McPants
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Considering whatever differences exist between the red and blue teams are miniscule, the differences within each party have to even smaller.

Tough to get excited/pissed about something so trivial.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:38 | 3036763 lolmao500
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Wrong. Just look at the difference between Ron Paul and the rest of the bozos in the GOP... there's a huge difference.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:41 | 3036784 NotApplicable
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Given Dr. Paul is on neither "team," I think you just made his point.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:23 | 3036683 gaoptimize
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I'm going to re-register as independent in Dec 2014 unless the Republican party abandons the "socialism-lite" re-branding.  With the assistance/cover-up of the media, the Democrats have thrived on a "no enemies to the left" approach, and yet the Republican establishment has thrown the Tea Party and Ron Paul under the bus to appeal to an increasingly Government-dependent center.  I smell a third party.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:31 | 3036724 tickhound
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So, basically, until 2014 you're still part of the problem.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:43 | 3036789 gaoptimize
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I hope not.  There may still be a chance to reclaim the Republican party from the RINOs, and voting in the primaries of 2014 will be an important part of that.  However, I'm not planning on a normal situation or elections by 2014. 

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:03 | 3036859 tickhound
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IMHO, political reform will NEVER be successful under the flag of either existing political party.  It is the point, actually.  The insurance to the establishment that nothing will change.

Party allegiance is so embedded, media so ruthless, the masses so uninformed and stupid, that "the other guys policies" will always be spun to have failed... And the status quo will remain entrenched.

To me, it isn't even about a 3rd party... It has to be an outright rejection of the entire corrupt political establishment.

Obama's 2006 Senate speech is a fine example to just how "fake" wrestling truly is and just how loyal the respective political bases have become... Irrespective of the message.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:19 | 3037698 lakecity55
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Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:11 | 3036891 Toolshed
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I would like to see the statistics on how many of each party are receiving some form of government subsidy and/or are on the government payroll. Those stats would tell a lot about what direction is even possible. The vast majority of people will always vote for their wallet's best interests.

Anyone seen a statistical analysis along those lines?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:58 | 3037060 flattrader
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Does that govt. subsidy include corp tax credits, govt. contract payments, TIF, etc...

If so, I think you'll find GOPERS are collecting far more...

The only difference is that they don't pay for thier groceries with EBT cards.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:24 | 3036686 darteaus
Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:24 | 3036689 A Lunatic
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You mean to say that when you roll with the pigs you might get dirty??? Whaaaaaaaaa!

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:25 | 3036697 Atlantis Consigliore
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GOP is finished like Boris Yeltsin;  the next vote is capital leaving the economy STAGFLATION

  hyperinflation;  devaluation, default; and capital flight out of the country like Spain.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:28 | 3036716 Flakmeister
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Flight to where?

Inquiring minds desire to know..

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:40 | 3036774 catacl1sm
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ask Simon Black

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:42 | 3036787 ParkAveFlasher
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Davey Jones Locker Corp.  

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 15:48 | 3036809 Shell Game
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Duh. Real money; it's already happening.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:53 | 3037048 Flakmeister
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Ok, I have my 200 million and I want to fly, are you telling me that I should buy ~6 tonnes of gold?


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:40 | 3037260 Shell Game
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Don't fly a ridiculous strawman, you're better than that.  Smart money is what it is because they understand the flaw and inherant risk of fiat. Especially that which is fractionalized, rehypothecized, leveraged and - most importantly - backed only by criminial promises.

The question wasn't where is 'currency' going, but where money (capital) is going.  

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:46 | 3037285 Flakmeister
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You clearly missed the point...

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:24 | 3038136 TimmyM
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You can afford a big plane. Are you a pussy or what?

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:44 | 3037018 verum quod lies
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Essentially, by definition, as long as the US runs a trade deficit capital is/must be flowing out of the country. It's called a "current account".


Wed, 12/05/2012 - 16:55 | 3037053 Flakmeister
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Do not equate fiatcos used to pay dupes for their oil with capital....

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 23:00 | 3038068 ceilidh_trail
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