Guest Post: Drones In America? They are Already Here...

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is one of the most important organizations we have in America today.  While most of the country lays fast asleep to the dangers of the encroaching surveillance state, the EFF is always vigilantly at work on the front lines.  In their latest article, they show that military drones are already flying all over these United States and, using information received from a FOIA lawsuit they provide important details on what is flying and where.  You may be shocked at some of their conclusions.  From the EFF:

These records, received as a result of EFF’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), come from state and local law enforcement agencies, universities and—for the first time—three branches of the U.S. military: the Air Force, Marine Corps, and DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency).


The records show that the Air Force has been testing out a bunch of different drone types, from the smaller, hand-launched Raven, Puma and Wasp drones designed by Aerovironment in Southern California, to the much larger Predator and Reaper drones responsible for civilian and foreign military deaths abroad. The Marine Corps is also testing drones, though it chose to redact so much of the text from its records that we still don’t know much about its programs.


Perhaps the scariest is the technology carried by a Reaper drone the Air Force is flying near Lincoln, Nevada and in areas of California and Utah. This drone uses “Gorgon Stare” technology, which Wikipedia defines as “a spherical array of nine cameras attached to an aerial drone . . . capable of capturing motion imagery of an entire city.” This imagery “can then be analyzed by humans or an artificial intelligence, such as the Mind’s Eye project” being developed by DARPA. If true, this technology takes surveillance to a whole new level.


While LIDAR can be used to create high-resolution images of the earth’s surface, it is also used in high tech police speed guns—begging the question of whether drones will soon be used for minor traffic violations.


However, once again, the records do not show that the FAA had any concerns about drone flights’ impact on privacy and civil liberties. This is especially problematic when drone programs like Otter Tail’s appear on first glance to be benign but later turn out to support the same problematic law enforcement uses that EFF has been increasingly concerned about.


It’s been over a year and a half since we first filed our FOIA request with the FAA, and we’re still waiting for more than half of the agency’s drone records. This is unacceptable.

Like with any new technology, drones can be put to good use or to evil use.  Just like nuclear power can harness energy or destroy humanity altogether, drones could do a lot of good, but the problem is that the government is clearly moving more and more towards a surveillance state so we must be extra careful.  Stay vigilant.

Full article here.

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americanspirit's picture

Good use?

Evil Use?

Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

Some stupid assed mother fucker deleted the post I had on Max Keiser's damn wiki site that showed that I thought of the "Crash JPM - Buy Silver" movement.  Damn it Tyler Durden, Mike Krieger, can't you recognize a real Don when you see one?

Tell that mother fucker Max Keiser to give the damn reigns up.  Don't you fuckers realize what I would do to the financial system if you fucking publsihed what I wrote?  Don't you know what would happen if you let the Rainmaker make the rain? 


mkkby's picture

I think this is just the usual milking of tax dollars by the MIC.  Prove to me that a drone can invade my privacy.  I don't believe it.

If you are in a heavily populated area you are hiding in plain sight.  There is no way to distinguish your movements from background movements of the "hive".  On the other hand, if you are standing out in a barren desert or wide open field, you can be seen and recognized at long distance.

Imagine using binoculars from an airplane window.  You couldn't spy on jack.  It's a fucking joke and gigantic waste of taxes.  I'm not scared one bit.

Go Tribe's picture

Can't wait to shoot one down. It'll be hard not to post it to Youtube.

Confused's picture

Until Youtube starts censoring what it allows.


We are all Winston Smith now. 

Confused's picture

Fair point.


So obviously no "how-to" videos on shooting down drones.

smart girl's picture

nice use of italics - I meant it for the guy who said evil, evil, ......... And we all know the opposite of evil is Live, right?

Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

Don't know if the intent of the gubmint is good or evil at this time.  But I am certain of which direction on the evil-o-meter the nature of the gubmint's intent in use of drones will move over time... 

Gubmints invariably rot until they are replaced.  Gubmint is a cancer, feeding on its host the citizenry, until it kills it or is excised.  Politicians the metastatic agents.  Gubmint is also analagous to cancer treatment - you only want the absolute bare minimum, no more.

Gubmint under Obama is a very aggressive form of cancer.

El Oregonian's picture

With Iran parading a disabled reported U.S. Drone apparently our government views Americans in the same class as Iranians, Syrians, Libyans, Russians, or Chinese...

We are now all classified as enemies of the(ir) State.

prains's picture

You are not enemies of the state you are enemies of the corptocracies that control the state. If you are a free thinker and do not submit to the will of the 1% you are a terrorist in training and need to be monitored.

The "state" has been bought and paid for, you must obey.

prains's picture

thanks for the junk Cheney/Rumsfeld Corp it is a badge of hono(u)r that you have blessed me so

Daily Bail's picture

Coming Soon - Drones Will Be Able to Kill WITHOUT Human Assisatance.

It's all in this story.

Ready, Set, Drone: Feds Prepare To Unleash 30,000 Spy Drones Over America
Its_the_economy_stupid's picture

Everytime I see DebtBro, I just want to turn up the jam!

Silver Bug's picture

They have been here for quite some time. They are going to become mainstream unless people stand up against it. It is one more step in the police state.

Raynja's picture

I was watching drones flying laterals over my city in the beginning of this year. I'm sure they will tell everyone they are flying around right before they start prosecuting (assassinating) people.

ebworthen's picture

americanspirit said:


"Good use?

Evil Use?"


Government mandated yearly enemas administered by Nurse Ratched would be a "good use" of medical technology?

How about them apples?  Deal?  You first.

Jee...start thinking.

Lost My Shorts's picture

The Disney Junior cable network has a cartoon program about "Special Agent Oso," who looks roughtly like a panda bear in yellow and green instead of black and white.  In that show, a surveillance drone called "Shutterbug," shaped like a ladybug, flies around looking for kids who need help, and beams the images back to headquarters, where Oso is dispatched to help them.

So stop worrying.  It's all for good.  Oso will help you.

Ned Zeppelin's picture

Teaching the children that drones are our friends.

philipat's picture

William"s "I have a drone" comes to mind!

takinthehighway's picture

Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. - "I have a dream."

Barack Hussein Obama - "I have a drone."

A Nanny Moose's picture

Yoda - "Begun, this drone war has."

old naughty's picture

A very faint "hummmmm".

Yoda is shaking his head, no?

Peter Pan's picture

Or as Martin Luther King Jr said,"guided missles in the hands of misguided men."

LetThemEatRand's picture

"the problem is that the government is clearly moving more and more towards a surveillance state...."

That's like saying there may be an earthquake in Fukishima soon, and a hurricane on the U.S. East Coast that may cause some damage in the future.

chebetts's picture

Funny, or tragic, but a 7.3 magnitude Earthquake just hit the eastern coast of Japan.....what else do you have in that magic ball of yours???

Global Hunter's picture

all of that human effort and ingenuity, all the investment and time spent to create drones to spy on people.  What a complete waste.

john39's picture

not from their point of view.  when they pull they plug, the police state is ready

aerojet's picture

There's a Drone Caucus in DC because the companies building drones know that their .mil customers have been pretty much exploited to the max as far as future orders are concerned.  They're looking for the next big market and that is domestic law enforcement, which is always the second step for all military technology, regardless of whether it is really a good idea or not.  And no, they don't give a shit about ethics or liberty or anything, no more than the companies like L3 care about us when they sell the government those stupid-ass invasive airport body scanners that may or may not cause cancer.  To the corporate mind, it's all about the ends justifying the means--regular people exist to be exploited in whatever way they can be. 

I recall that the companies selling those awful stoplight cameras just a few years ago aren't doing so well--that whole thing pretty much died because regular people pushed back hard.  So it isn't like it is a hopeless effort to fight the drone invasion, it just takes hitting the right nerve--like explaining to the public that they're going to get more speeding tickets and other forms of automated harassment will be devised, for example.  Or more sensationally, like explaining that drones will be watching them at church, or while having sex or even while they're taking a shit. 

Element's picture

It's simple, either their R&D and manufacturing programs continue to expand or their stocks will collapse, so you just keep pretending you're protecting everyone from baddies, and thus keep sucking the life out of public finances, in order to save your stock price and bonus. It's the exact same reason why your police are decked out like Darth Vader, someone need to prop their production and stock, and bought off politicians to argue that such stupidity is necessary.

There was a time in earlier centuries when Corporations were created for a purpose, fullfilled their purpose, and then were disbanded simpy to stop that sort of waste and corruption from taking place.

It's the same insane logic for why the USSA built a 27,000 standing nuke arsenal by 1967, and still has 4 major air forces; USAF, USN Aviation, USMC Attack Jets, and Air National Guard.  That's what happens when no one wants to stop making what's no longer needed.

Fortunately the Chinese only do it with unoccupied cities ... thus far.

Rogue Trooper's picture

Welcome to your future...

PS Add a shortwave radio to the usual prep items.....

/John Connor

johnQpublic's picture

shortwave....good idea

how about a neon flagpole too?

nothing like beaming out a nice signal someone can triangulate on though



want a good prep item?


lotsa bubblewrap

viahj's picture

you could always just lay on the ground with a paper bag over your head, not that it would help.

i have a shortwave receiver in my preps

A Lunatic's picture

It's a little late for vigilance you stupid ass. They are already here. They are going to put them everywhere. I do not see anything in the way of their publicly stated goal................

A Lunatic's picture

"Hacked" drone kills Ron Paul and three hundred fifty six others during freedom rally at local park. 97 others severly wounded. No one has claimed responsibility for this attack but it is surely the work of those pesky fucking (insert brown people of choice here).


If you are not worried you are terminally naive.........

GFKjunior's picture

First of all, who goes to rallies? 


Second, not even the deadliest drones in research carry enough ammo to kill 350 people. The types of drones deployed in the states will be small, fast, and surveillance based. They want to track us not remotely bomb us, they have plenty of armed thugs to do the dirty work.

SilverDOG's picture

You are running on assumptions.

Check your reality gauge.

It IS empty.

FeralSerf's picture

They can easily carry a device as large as the one used in the Bali night club bombing in 2002.  Modern plutonium pits are not large and they're plentiful.

earnulf's picture

There are still folks who assemble peacefully.

Second, doesn't take much sarin to eliminate a WHOLE LOT MORE than 350 people.    Drones can also be used for spraying whatever over a populated area, a.k.a. outbreak.

Read a little Sci-Fi and you quickly understand that TSHTF in more ways than we can imagine.

Aurora Ex Machina's picture

Actually, blame ANONYMOUS.


No, really, that's the plot line of Black Ops 2. ($1 bil sales so far).

JLee2027's picture

Drone versus Anti-Drone. Come soon to a theater/road/home near you.

TahoeBilly2012's picture

Krieger is good people.

csmith's picture

"Stay vigilant."


Why? WTF can we do about a drone at 10K feet that can see in our window anyway?

Give it the finger?

Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

Naw. Just be sure your O 2012 sticker is visible.

Oldwood's picture

Wear a really large brim hat and never look up!