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US, French Troops Prepare For Syria Invasion In Response To "Chemical Weapons" Threat
The 8 day mini war between Israel and Gaza has come and gone and any attempts at provoking a wider regional conflict, one involving Iran (if indeed this was the intention), have failed. Which means the fallback plan - Syria - is back in play. And sure enough, as both the most recent naval map update, which shows a US aircraft carrier and a big deck amphibious warfare ship, both of which house thousands of troops and numerous offensive aircraft, and an RT news flash, indicating that thousands of troops have amassed near the Syrian shore confirm, the time for a US invasion may be near. The alibi? "Chemical weapons" of mass or non-mass destruction. In other words the Iraq playbook all over again.
The USS Eisenhower, an American aircraft carrier that holds eight fighter bomber squadrons and 8,000 men, arrived at the Syrian coast yesterday in the midst of a heavy storm, indicating US preparation for a potential ground intervention.
While the Obama administration has not announced any sort of American-led military intervention in the war-torn country, the US is now ready to launch such action “within days” if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad decides to use chemical weapons against the opposition, the Times reports.
Some have suggested that the Assad regime may use chemical weapons against the opposition fighters in the coming days or weeks.
“We have (US) special operations forces at the right posture, they don’t have to be sent,” an unnamed US official told The Australian, which suggested that US military troops are already near Syria and ready to intervene in the conflict, if necessary.
The alibi used by the "democratic" press to justify what may imminently be a land invasion? Chemical weapons:
The Syrian military is prepared to use chemical weapons against its own people and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday.
The military has loaded the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs that could be dropped onto the Syrian people from dozens of fighter-bombers, the officials said.
As recently as Tuesday, officials had said there was as yet no evidence that the process of mixing the "precursor" chemicals had begun. But Wednesday, they said their worst fears had been confirmed: The nerve agents were locked and loaded inside the bombs.
Sarin is an extraordinarily lethal agent. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's forces killed 5,000 Kurds with a single sarin attack on Halabja in 1988.
U.S. officials stressed that as of now, the sarin bombs hadn't been loaded onto planes and that Assad hadn't issued a final order to use them. But if he does, one of the officials said, "there's little the outside world can do to stop it."
Tangentially, remember when Iraq was supposed to have warehouses full of "WMDs", which story ended up being a fabricated lie. But at least Turkey is ready: after all NATO has already handed over various Patriot missiles to prevent a Syrian retaliation against the ruling Assad regime.
And just to make sure the escalation is complete, the French are coming.
France is preparing its special forces for a mission in war-torn Syria, French weekly magazine Le Point reports.
The mission would only involve a relatively small amount of special forces, and a number of NATO countries — including the UK and the US — would be involved. The mission would be modelled on the Western intervention in Libya, the magazine reports.
The action appears to be in response to fears that the regime is planning on using chemical weapons in the conflict. Earlier this week one US official told reporters that it was believed Bashar al-Assad's forces had moved two key components of a deadly nerve gas in preparation for an attack (a later report refuted this, however).
Le Point says a large ground operation "is out of the question" and that a smaller action aimed largely at securing chemical weapon stockpiles.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton today vowed a swift response if Assad's regime used chemical weapons.
So putting it all together, it appears that once again the imminent escalation play is one where an antagonized Syria is forced to strike back, an act which "hopefully" will get Iran involved in the fray, and from there it is smooth sailing for both Israel and the "democratic" forces of the world.
The only wild card: Russia and China, both of which have made it very clear they have quite strategic interests in the Syria region on numerous prior occasions.
Appendix A: full naval map, via Stratfor, where one can see not only aircraft carrier Eisenhower off the Syrian coast but LHD-7 Iwo Jima Big Deck Amphibious warfare ship alongside it:
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Yep. If we don't have (our own) boots on the ground it is very likely that Syria HAS CONFIRMED biological weapons. Could be the reason this has dragged on for as long as it has. Assad seems adament he will not use the weapons on his own people. In other words, if US or other foreign troops entered the country he would use them and would have used them already.
Hillary looks haggard. Something wicked that way comes.
People confuse chemical weapons with biological ones.
Chemicals disperse, bilogicals have a chance to mutate and kill everyone.
Stranegly enough, no one seems to be considering this.
If Iran or Syria gets desperate, they may drop a killer virus and we can all die together; and no amount of tamiful will help you.
the fix is in...
https://rt.com/politics/putin-turkey-syria-erdogan-119/
key line from the linked article: "Ahead of the meeting, Turkey’s premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan, pointed out that “Russia is holding the key…Russia’s attitude is crucial,” addressing the ongoing Syrian conflict"
it seems a deal has been struck between ZATO and the Russians, which will allow the long sought invasion to begin...Putin has signed off, and Libya 2.0 is officially underway.
The 5 major chemical weapons depots which I mentioned in a previous posting are going to be seized by the hired CIA jihadists contain deadly poisons which will be allowed to seep out of Syria into the hands of State Department contracted killer units tasked with spreading panic and destruction in the final stage of the plan to subdue the West into complete docile submission.
Of course, nothing these kooks dream up ever goes according to plan. Holding onto tickets for a front row seat for the start of WW3 was not part of my plans when relocating to my idyllic Aegean stronghold. Even the best 3M mask is no security against the probable outcome of the latest sionist design for mass destruction...and Erdogan's DeathWish IV remake.
I'm now officially on tour in SE Asia, from where I intend to monitor the situation on the home front...if Syria and Iran go down, I'm only a 2 hour flight away from Pyongyang, and perhaps the last, best hope for refugees from the sionist tsunami...eating a lot of cabbage n rice in hopes of acclimatizing myself to possible new surroundings...hopin to find a way to get my four legged critters out safely. Shit be gettin real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_%28nerve_agent%29
+1. I had guessed that yesterday when it was revealed in the non-USA media that Putin had made a quick trip to Istanbul to confer with the Turkish FM and Erdogan.
US forces are already in Sinai, supposedly chasing the Iranian rocket club, as well as a very huge contingency base in Jordan on the Syro-Jordanian border.
There are two task forces off Syria, both Goldman-NATO (no longer any need to say ("US Troops").
However, there is also a counter amphibious assault group of Russian Marines at their Naval Base Tartus.
If you really wanted to have a nuk-yoo-lar war to start by miscalculation, BO Plenty and Hitlary are your men (or women).
BO and Hitlary really thought their boy had a lock in Cairo, huh? How's that workin, Hill?
Now, where are my civil defense manuals..............
French, fried.
The French talk a lot, and do little. This is another instance of crazy DC finding a flimsy front man.
It is disgusting that the USA founded on being a self sufficient nation, friend to all, trade with anyone, is now ruled by freak inbred corporatists:Goldman Sacks, JP Morgue, Oppenheimers, the AshkeNAZI, the Trilateral Commission of fake socialists, fake capitalists, fake jews.
These inbred freaks are corporatists who believe in Big Brother state, biggest banks and any big religion that they can corral into serving their money ways.
Psychopaths. They love money and power, and have no sense of community, civility, humanity.
Freaks.
Not "any religion." Luciferianism.
france is a third the size of Texas . at the center of the three world wars , and before someone says something stupid , i count the Napoleon wars as the first.
Don,t forget your own " liberation" ...
Best wines,cognacs, best and ONLY champagne, best skis, sexiest language on earth < personal favorite is portuguese from Rio .
We invented schooling , LAWS , breakthru science could go on and on and on
3 of my personal favorites frenchies
bb on beauty, platini for sports and crooked business, and Loeb best driver of all time...
And my father for his acts between 1939 and 1945. Any writers out there i have on heck of a story.
SO MOST TALK ALOT , AND SOME DO A LOT.
There fixed it for you.
i know i know those are 4. frenchies...
The troops should arrest the gobalists for treason and refuse to be used as mercinaries. More than a few know what time it is. But maybe it is important to prevent China from the oil. I don't know.
Dear q99x2,
One can abhor war, yet love troops who fight for the people's right to make their own choice. Democracy, the vote.
People voted for war when they elected Democrat or Republican.
My family believe in you and yours.
Make a better decision next time, please.
No more foreign adventures and war, please.
Trade liberty for security, and lose both. So said Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.
You and yours can end these wars. My beloveds must fight until you choose to do so.
Abhor war, and love something?
No I can't
No I can't
No I can't
Decision?
No I can't
No I can't
No I won't
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
(George Orwell)
You owe your liberty to those who die for your right to vote, and you voted for war.
Funny thing about liberty. It is only liberty if you are willing to fight for it, rather then abdicate your responsibility to others.
This too shall pass.....
satan likes his exmas feast more godless souls for the beast. may satan claws vist your house this festive season
Hateful Muslim? The religion of pieces.
Trolls like "newengland" love to speak in non-coherent phrases and sentences that they think will make them appear to be intelligent.
Dhimmi.
1000111100001111
Now fuck off troll. We got your number.
Your name suggests that you are a typical interfering Brit brat.
My land, my people...not yours, dhimmi.
Your profile says you are a 47 week, 2 day old troll that posts on average 2.6 posts PER DAY, every day, for the past 47 weeks. That's quite a prolific accomplishment for an unemployed person to achieve. Prior to your latest post you have a total of 863 troll responses in a mere 47 weeks, 2 days.
So... where do you go from here?
You lie, small penis.
Numbers are your weak point, apparently, Brit brat.
You are so easy, I won't even need lube.
Brit brat, dhimmi. Stay in your own broken country, pet.
No problem. I'll stay on my side of the fence when you agree to FUCK OFF. I'm done with you. You've been "outed" as a fucking troll. Your account is obviously used by multiple people that masquerade as "newengland".
small penis Brit brat.
Liar.
and who are you if I 'may' ask?
And the socialist French serve the EUSSR, the abuser of an entire continent. The French went into Vietnam, then left the USA to die for their failed colonialism.
This Syrian adventure will be the same. Wherever the French go, they leave ruined places. See Africa for an example. Only their paratroopers are good...and they were exiled to Corsica.
The French army never goes anywhere. They send the Foreign Legion to do their dirty work.
H.U.A.
From Corsica.
Socialists and Communists wage war at the expense of other people's bodies and money. They are filth.
...The French army never goes anywhere...
technically true, but only on a slender time line, post consecutive asskickings applied in Algeria and 'Nam.
The same imperial hubris which caused the ultimate destruction of the French and Dutch colonial pretensions is at play in the present moment in ME lands...Merikans wanna be aware of the way this plays out...
I intend to report in from the scene of Dien Bien Phu as soon as the weather clears a bit here from the latest typhoon...
suggestion box...pick up a copy of Bernard Falls' classic Hell in a Very Small Place meanwhiles...good reading for those who wish to understand the mechanics of disaster.
Bloody good read... enjoy your posts Joy :/
"Bloody" is right, mon liege...7000 dead. 11,000 captured,(4400 of which wounded)...all for the sake of a military miscalculation based fundamentally on the hubris of a racio-cultural arrogance abrogated by the reality of "conditions in the field"
Cong(Viet Mihn technically speaking)kicked French ass...
fast forward to Afghanistan...circa 2013...
Long...body bag manufacturers...oh wait, we outsourced that to a Chinese company in 2003.
The French (via substantial Foreign Legion presence) have had a huge - and generally unnoticed - presence in Africa long after they abandoned their colonies. French troops have helped keep African dictators in power throughout France Afrique benefitting French companies like Total.
WTF? Our troops did not failed the algerian war; the politicians did.
wow, you be my new number one mother fucker on here , who the fuck do you think you are?
all french are socialists???.
We forced you to go to vietnam mf.
yea and we are the ones who shot at JFK from the gutter?
o yea africa would be light years ahead if we had never been there
you got no fucking brain, so you are dumb ,ugly and poor stfu!
sam no control,
You are entitled to your uneducated opinion and ad hominem.
When we toppled Saddam, we upset the balance of power.
This shit is our fault. If we just left them alone, they'd be busy killing each other with small wars.
Now, we have no clue the outcome, and risk a big war with us in the middle.
Having said that, I don;t see where we have any choice now but to go in and secure that gas. It was safe, for our purposes, all these years in Assad's hands, but that is no longer assured.
What a cluster-f
Can't have a perpetual war on terrism without some terrists. They are simply destablizing regions that have been fine for a while so we can have some al qaeda boogeymen.
Their problem in the Middle East and perhaps a bigger problem for U.S. 'citizens' with dual passports.
go read my post mf
This is not due to Chemical Weapons threat...this is long overdue and is due to over 50,000 people killed, hunders of thousand missing, and millions made refugees. The US does do the right thing every now and then.
This is due to zionists controlling our foreign policy. The US gov doesn't care about you, or them, or the children....
And you think this won't escalate to include Iran?
http://youtu.be/xK0y-yn2t94
Have a Happy Holocaust
On behalf of all bears I will straighten you and the record out now...
as for your statistical analysis, I will assume that you are talkin bout the number of missing children that disappear in the USSA every year due to the depredations of the serial kosher killer klowns and their politico-judicial riff raff...blood sacrificial victims of the talmudic terror....are there refugees from same? God protect them. No one else seems willing.
Last time I recollect USA bin caught out doin the 'right thang' was when the last chopper left the roof of the embassy building in downtown Ho Chi Mihn City...
Syria and Iran will be the graveyard of Neo-con\trot aspirations for control of the world...unfortunately, most all the rest of us will be collateral damage...
@ joyful 3038470
Last time I recollect USA bin caught out doin the 'right thang' was when the last chopper left the roof of the embassy building in downtown Ho Chi Mihn City...
i knew the guy who flew that last chopper mission off the roof of the embassy in saigon...he was a navy lt. at the time........flew back to the carrier and pushed the chopper over the side into the south china sea............
Apparently this Bear shits in the Hedge.
Were those people American? No.
Best we stay home, and allow other nations to decide their own ways.
That is respect.
So the US sets the stage in which a bloody civil war ensues and that is a good thing??? All under the banner of 'humanitairy intervention'? This is not about freedom, democracy and human rights. It is about keeping petrodollar king.
The House of Saud leads the Muslim world and can end any war in the Muslim world, but it chooses not to do so in Syria and some other places. Why?
Muslims kill more Muslims than the West does, although our involvement there gives them an excuse to blame us even though their Koran justifies making women and children into chattles who can be killed if they offend a man, even a rapist. See recent cases of Muslim girls killed in Britain and the U.S., so called 'honor killings' according to Muslims.
We all know this and we all know how fucked up that religion is. So why get involved then if not for some other motive such as oh let's say oil and gas? The US wants to dominate Eurasia and every conflict the US has been involved in the last 30 years whether it is Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lybia, etc. should be seens in that light. The US wants to control the area whatever it takes in order to keep the petrodollar going.
Yes chemical weapons...See we found this bottle of bleach!
I knew it!
Tora! Tora! Tora!
And, while the Iranians' attentions are glued to Syria, Israeli Air Force comes in from behind out of the base they leased in Turkmenistan.
Nobody has seen any Israeli aircraft lately.......
The foreigners use the USA to fight their wars. This is unconstitutional.
Torah! Torah! Torah!
-fixed.
So Assad would use chemical weapons on US backed Al Qaeda rebels who would not hesitate to use it on the US if they had the chance? Odd.
That damn Mayan calendar!
Maybe they were right and the world WILL end before World Clusterf**king War III breaks out...... a nice meteor hit would put us out of our misery and provide a quicker end. The world's financial system is collapsing, climate change is all too rfeal and acdelerating and our 'leaders' seem to be determioned to distract us all with the mother of all wars (Hussein was off in his timing - though he was right sbout the general location)
You can tell your NSA and CIA and other bull shit departments run by czar to stick it.
I aint going to pay for another war or send innocent kids who don't know better to die for nothing.
Obama did not do what he pledged, uphold the constituion and neither did congress.
They are on their own. Let them go there and fight,
There has never been a time in the history of this Republic that so few politicians served in the military, and the ordinary serviceman fought so long on foreign soil.
It is clear that cowards like to send others to fight for their politics, their money, their arrogance, their corporatism: the hateful alliance of Big State, Big Banks.
We are all going to pay for our inaction.
Just how was the war betwee Gaza and Israel meant to provoke Iran to war? That is, unless Iran is arming Gaza and using it as a launchpad for attacks against Israel. In which case all of your little conspiracy theories go down the drain. Sorry Tyler, but sometimes the rhetoric in this place really does make you all look like fools.
The Cavalry is coming a bit late....
Now we are being conditioned to expect the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Fedgov know they've got 'em because it kept the receipts. By whom they will be used is the key question. Who would benefit the most?
Harder to fake a 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident for Syria - though they tried it for Iran and it didn't work........ I guess we're back top the tried and true WMD excuse (with the foprethought to make sure there WILL be WMD's this time.
The only countries obama is eager to attack are Israel and Texas.
Natural gas from Iraq and Quatar needs to be transported via Syria to Europes markets. The gas fields in front of Syria, Turkey, Greece, Libanon, Israel, Gaza are deemed by US/UK/Israel as theirs to fill the pipelines of their multinational energy corporations. Its their blunder but Syria does not agree. And Russia is assisting Syria in its fight against the foreign mercenaries paid by US/UK. France is not anymore in the game since Sarkozy lost his power. And anyhow what could France win. There is plenty of shale gas and oil in France itself till now completely untapped.
@ supermaxedout 3038528
Natural gas from Iraq and Quatar needs to be transported via Syria to Europes markets
bingo!!!!!....now we have a motive and a weapon........if vlady has cut a dark side deal with the mercenary strap-ons, the bottom line on that deal is access to warm water naval ports and some kinda gimme on ngas transfers to europe...........
do you suppose its possible that the wahabbi saudis have reverse engineered those 1970's petro $ guarantees and the 'merkins are now the wagging tail of a snarling jihadi junkyard dog?????
It's not chemical weapons in the normal sense, but Syria has gotten hold of the Twinkie recipe and is about to unleash them in an all out "Holy War".
Assad needs to go for it. Use the gas. If you are going to go down, make it one for the history books.
The amount of US forces near Syria is not enough to do very much, except maybe to block Assad's escape. One the other hand, US ally Turkey has the forces for a real land invasion..
Re (Syria Invasion) The alibi? "Chemical weapons" of mass or non-mass destruction.
Note: The terms Chemical Weapons Of Mass Destruction, NuKular WMD and They Hate Us for Our (...) are wholly-owned and patented trademarks of the The United States Of ABSURDITY and The Only TALMUDocracy In The Middle East.
Any use of these terms by another party not specifically in support of the AmericAEL Agenda is a DRONABLE OFFENSE.
If in doubt - please contact your nearest DHS Representative.
Thank you in advance for your co-operation and participation in our "If You Think You Might Want To Say Something - BETTER CHECK IT'S KOSHER FIRST!" program.
Have a Nice Day.
Yes,but isn't this going to drive PM's thru the roof? Au at $2500 in weeks and what about those JPM silver positions? Fiscal cliff,my arse....
With what?
We still haven't completely withdrawn from Afghashitstan and our troops are in tatters...
Fabius should stop licking Hitlary's pussy and ass... Just sayin'!
BS.. Chemical weapons or a psudo WMD is all they have to bring fourth to NATO / UN for a "no fly" full justified military strike. All lies. Same play book from 1991. Shits gettin old.
It was 'old' back when Project for a New American Century came up with their hit list...... They envisioned the US as a 21st century Roman Empire - but forgot how Rome turned out..... We blew right through the 'Pax Americana' stage and went straighgt to the collapse of empire
The neocons never got the factg that Rome worked WITH those it subjugated and was an INCLUSIVE lord and master. The US imposes itself on others and has a distinctly 'American/Christian/white' ethno centrism that leads it to treat others like crap - inspiring resentment, hatred and yes, terrorism......
casus belli : old stock of Bechtel left overs.
Ask Rumsfeld for the recipe when he sold it to all and sundry; to Saddam, Q-daffy and Assads of this world of the 70s and 80s.
--And if he didn't you could bet your bottom $ that the TOvarich shill on the other side would only be too happy to do it.
That's what the Cold War was all about : selling Kalashnikovs and arms to anybody who had a buck; and don't worry if you didn't, as US Aid would put you forever on the debt teat to buy the US MIC's equipment of "planned obsolescence".
Public tax dollars given with right hand that came back to US contractors in their lefts hands as money paid to buy guns n Saran or agent orange or pox anthrax. 10% payback to local potentate. Everybody ate at that pig sty for decades...
Age old formula for keeping surrogates subservient in the Empire; used for Arms, then for OIL, now for fiat monetary networks; the NEW Oligarchy arm of Massive destruction that blackmails governments into submission.
Our money your problem!
All four major powers played that game thoroughly : USA, USSR, UK and France.
Usual culprits then as now!
The beat goes on.
laid out all so clearly in 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man'
http://books.google.com/books/about/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man.h...
Perhaps you are young or foreign.
The Republic of the USA was founded on the idea of staying home, and trading with foreigners. No more than that.
Modern and young politics likes to decry war, and wage war...at the expense of U.S. servicemen and women.
you should not confuse "ideals" with "real politic", as practised since USA became top dog in 1945.
Foreign to US nationality yes; not to US power play.
US admin. wages war for its strategic interests of Pax Americana of which the ME OIL patch is crown jewel, since 1973.
Nobody "does it" for them, or controls the government's decisions from outside DC. Its 100% homebred.
You should remember to wipe your NE lens from time to time. Unless Rip Van Winkle was your genitor.
Zionists, Muslims and other despotic types profit most.
You deserve each other.
We shall live happily in our own beautiful place, long after you lot have blown each other to smithereens or ruined each other in court.
Happy Christmas.
Another war?
Why ain't I shocked?
Carnage and porno are the only industries left in America.
What a kick in the balls.
I get so disgusted.
Check out this item from Brit Press:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-says-west-has...
Could this war hysteria be why Au and Ag took a big dump?
Maybe something is going to happen.
Like weird stock trades right before 9/11.
Of course, equities are so goofy now, who could tell?
Let's see what happens with oil. Maybe others can chip in with ideas to watch in the markets....
A few straggling puppetmasters still haven't bought solid gold toilets for their submarines, and they need to get them at good prices before they set off an "Iranian" nuke in the City of London at 11:11 on Dec. 21.
Stage a mass human sacrifice at a very auspicious time, vaporize the gold they already stole, destroy the evidence, fake their deaths, crush any remaining freedoms, start WWIII, and usher in their world financial dictatorship.
So, we're bringing our accordion this time???
All that that chemical warfare gear has expiration dates on it. The suits, the boots, the atmo filters, the modified MRE pouches with a secure ingestion system. The vehicles. The mobile bases. The drugs ... and most importantly ... the reason to throw away any non chem hardened gear immediately after this dust up.
We need more video for faux news. showing our brave soldiers in their sexy latex gear, shooting freedom into people all around the world.
chem conflicts are a wet dream for the MIC. better than sand. better than jungle.
There is no good reason for the U.S. to fight in Syria. I'm sorry for Syria's trouble, but it is their trouble, and the Arab League ought to sort it or their blood brothers - Zionists - in the world's biggest banks can help them.
Why do we in the republic of the USA pay for the biggest government machine ever worldwide if the federal government is so inept, and stupidly blunders into constant overseas wars?
It is ridiculous that foreigners exploit the USA, and snivel in their own kingdoms.
I agree. I'm surprised the British aren't leading the charge with Syria. After all, they are experts in chemical warfare and the first to use them in combat.
Dhimmi Brits are a lost cause, and the 'special relationship' is a matter for private families, not national policy, in my opinion.
The Rothschild and Oppenheimer bank familes and their socialist corporatist freak inbred ways own the 'royal' family.
British troops are superb, and it is a pity that they are lions led by donkeys.
The precious pets of politics and biggest banks are body bags between the bullets - so the security detail thinks :-) F'em.
We need only defend our Republic. Foreigners can defend their own, or not.
There is a clear and present danger of Assad using chemical weapons because ... well, ... because Obomba and Hillbilly Clinton said so.
You need to believes!
Sad but factual to say:
The US is the only country which has actually used Atomic bombs.
The US has been using banned depeleted Uranium since the Gulf War 91.
The US has used chemical weapons like Agent Orange in Vietnam etc. The US actually supplied the chemcial weapons to Saddam to be used against the Kurds and the Iranians
And what a joke the UN is. Nothing done about Israel's nuclear weapons but questions asked about other's nuclear ambitions.
Americans need to ask their Government -" So how many people have we killed around the world today using drones and other methods"
Muslims kill more of their own, routinely. Is it ok that the Koran makes chattels of women and children? So called honor killings are allowed when any man feels offended by the choice of his daughter?
Assad slaughters his own people en masse. Every other Muslim ruler can maim, abuse or kill his people and attack mosques because the Koran says he can, as Mohammed did?
I do not agree with U.S. troops being sent to foreign lands, but let's get this in perspective. The House of Saud rules Muslims, and the Arab League is a sop to the West.
Muslims kill more Muslims than the West does.
"And the socialist French serve the EUSSR, the abuser of an entire continent. The French went into Vietnam, then left the USA to die for their failed colonialism.
This Syrian adventure will be the same. Wherever the French go, they leave ruined places. See Africa for an example. Only their paratroopers are good...and they were exiled to Corsica."
Your hatred blinds you... It's part of the new "control from behind" US war doctrine. Overrule enemy countries (Lybia) by sending slaves nations on the ground to do the dirty job. Don't blame the French, blame Obama...
"they leave ruined places" Yeah Vietnam in 1972 or Iraq now are places you'd like to go on holiday (lol)
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The French left their colonies in ruin. At least the Brits left the mechanics of an administration, and a culture still much loved by educated Indians, for example.
Gaffaw at colonialism if you like, but at least the Brits and their military were admired by many. The French are despised....except by murderous despots who they still support.
And the French taught native Americans to scalp.
The only good thing about France is its art, people and paratroopers.
The politics is $hite.
'Kill the infamous thing,' wrote Voltaire, referring to French politics. Dominic Strauss-Kahn who was the leading French presidential candidate and IMF globalist whore before he fckd a New York maid is typical of French socialist politics.
whilst what you write is true, you have forgotten\misplaced the cardinal rule of international diplomacy...
the French are special, and you must never intrude upon their wounded sensibilities, lest you remind them that the era of la gloire be long gone...
the French forces came to Dien Bien Phu accompanied by two mobile field brothels comprised of Algerian and Vietnamese women...
what more need be said?
who got the gals when they ran up the white flag?
Don't forget the juicy bits of history.
AND, it started a real tradition as GI Joe never went anywhere afterward without R&R provided bigtime; as in Nam!
So what the french do badly in style and glory the US does worse!
GI Joe married many girls.
Other snivelling foreigners just fckd the girls, and forgot them. There is no nation on earth that equals the English speaking soldier for his heart felt commitment.
lol, now that takes the cake.
Your riposte lacks evidence. Care to provide some or just blow hard...
The Vietnamese contingent were sent off for 're-education'...I cannot say as to what the fate of the Algerian women was...
mon pere, I believe now that you are bordering upon terminal insanity...
to defend the French "right" to depredation in the name of style and glory is akin to defending Pol Pot in the name of artistic license...
Gather yourself quickly...(and see my response to your latest outpourings on GW's thread)...I fear for thy immortal soul!
I don't defend it, I use your own "cute" terms of phrase to deride it by extending the "compliment" to the US brigade.
I would have expected better logic on that from you.
For the Khazarian thread so close to your heart I repost it here for those who are french readers. Its stands on it own and defies your pride and prejudice totally lacking in anything factual to back up you historical affirmations based on inuendo and generalisations.
http://riifr.univ-littoral.fr/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/doc61.pdf
...specifically this BELOW on the issue of Jewish influence on the great venetian conspiracy of "dark nobles" to bring down Western civilization, page 15 :
Vers 1516, les nations de Gênes, de Florence et de Lucques quittent Bruges pour Anvers où transitent 40% du commerce mondial. De quinze mille habitants au milieu du XVème siècle, la population d’Anvers passera à cent mille au milieu du XVIème siècle. Anvers voit la fin de la prépondérance absolue des banquiers italiens, avec d’une part l’avènement des Fugger et de leurs compatriotes dans la haute finance européenne et, d’autre part, l’arrivée des marranes espagnols et portugais. Mais ni à Anvers, ni plus tard à Amsterdam, les Juifs ne jouent le premier rôle2. La commercialisation de la vie économique a commencé en Italie au Moyen Age, c’est à dire dans une région et à une époque où le rôle des Juifs était insignifiant. Ils n’ont pas joué un rôle déterminant dans la naissance du capitalisme.....
NOW THIS IS DOCUMENTED FACT, NOT HOCUS POCUS!
I fear that now, after falling upon thy sword, you have additionally, cast yourself off of your own tower, and are now hanging onto the cliff of rationality by the fingernails...
my commentary is merely "cute," whilst thy own thin and insubstantial gleanings are dressed up as "fact"???? Indeed, squire, your transformation into a Peter Sellers impersonator is now complete....you may now panhandle your act in the streets of Marseilles...
but it aint ready for ZH!
Bent rhetoric is your only argument; your whole thesis of a Jew/Venitian conspiracy is fallacy and its got no basis.
Is that clear plain english? Don't hide behind false premises of verbiage, see the logic behind what you say, as to me not only is it empty, its disinformation and not factual; yes factual. Simple as that.
I see no reason to get morose ol Sock...
at your level of achievement, it's hard to find the motivation to improve one's skills even more...your interlocutors here merely wish to aid your pursuit of excellence...
here's a special token of esteem! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKO_r76kfQ
You wrote in:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-05/capitalism-and-socialism-are-mo...
that H.Heine was involved.
Please enlight me.
Without knowing the specific impetus of your enquiry, I can only direct your attention to the geneological evidence of the connections between the three...
Karl Marx was related to Heinrich Heine through Simon Michel, a native of Raab, Bohemia(d. 1719), who later changed his name to Pressburg, after he removed to Bratislava. Marx was second-cousin-once-removed of Lionel de Rothschild, whose grandfather and Marx's greatgrandfather were brothers.
It is well known that Heine moved in the artistic\intellectual circles of the French wing of the family during his time in Paris...and befriended Marx after his relocation there from England. It is equally well documented that Marx received indoctrination in Frankist-Sabbatean ideology through his father, and that the Rothschilds were long time associates of Frank and satanists to boot...Heine had a troubled relationship to his jewish past, but was basically a part of the same fertile ground which Moses Hess used to cultivate his seeds of hatred and destruction in...
though it is less than provable that the three directly conspired together, the removal of existing evidence long after the fact is a trademark of the sionist enterprise...which leaves us only conjecture.
it is less well known that in his earlier days, Marx himself was something of a poet...examples of his poetry still exist, which are instructive of the man's motivations...to 'lure mankind with him into hell in the company of Satan'...Heine certainly had a remarkable insight into the nature of communism, and issued uncannily accurate prophecies with regards to it's future.
Heine remained intensely bitter about his failure to be accepted into the mainstream of Germanic culture, and occupied a mirror image to Lionels' similar complaint, which he publicized by refusing to occupy his seat in the House of Parliament for 11 years.
French foreign policy has always been despicable, in my opinion, and that is why their politicians are used yet despised worldwide.
They are vain idiots; collaborator whores who would fck anything, and dump it. See Dominc Strauss Kahn as the latest example.
<chuckle> your beef with DSK (and the honeytrap he fell in) is based on his politics and actions as IMF head or on his philandering? or, to put it differently - are you able to differentiate?
"...despised worldwide" can you make an example of a non-english speaking country despising French diplomacy?
DSK is making a deal to pay off the maid he attacked in New York.
DSK - is he still under investigation by French police for pimping? You know, that hotel in France, used by DSK and his associates.
DSK - former head of the IMF which urges austerity on nations - or profligacy, depending on the finances of central banks and their political pets' promises.
RE: ' despised worldwide'. Name one former French colony that doesn't despise it...unless it is ruled by a despot still doing deals with France.
France: a two faced ignorant political class of socialists and hangers on...soon to be hanging by lamp posts or Madame Guillotine, probably. Such is the French way.
LOL - as usual OUR SOBs are better than YOUR SOBs and OUR colonialists are way better than YOUR colonialists, by jingo!
not here to defend the French, though IMO usually they left their "ruins" with an interestingly efficient school system
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I note NewEngland's use of the word "globalist". That word still does not make any sense outside of the US and it's not part of any other english vocabolary.
It's a propagandistic product of a conservative/(libertarian?) mindset that is overwhelmed by the sheer foreignness of the rest of the world, IMHO
as such, it says nothing yet, except if you explain what you really mean
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mobile brothels? well, I remember when during the Gulf Wars huge airlifts of 747s were organized for Egyptian prostitutes
where you have soldiers you have camp followers - this is so since the ancients and won't change so quickly
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btw, I was reading that now Blackwater operates whole bases that might or might not house US soldiers. an interesting trend that will become even more interesting as soon as the first land-drones or robot-tanks will be deployed
I have no dog in the race whatsoever in regards to the French and the Merikans...I have been merely pointing out for the edification of our Merikan friends the merits of studying the tracks made by the Frenchies in order to avoid falling off of the same cliff of hubris...
a futile effort, I acknowledge, yet someone has to do it!
you continentals are a laugh n a half...always at the ready to defend the indefensible, yet sadly absent when the record calls for witness to the truth of things...
minus tribal commitments!
Ghord, apparatchik. Too many words from you, and no sense at all. Typical eurocrat, bumptious piffle.
Joyful,
Quite. The French know how to conceal their ways, and make excuses if they are found to be bare faced liars.
The Vietnamese know this, as do the the paratroopers exiled to Corsica.
speechless...
Meanwhile the European markets are in full retarded ramp-up mode...
German factory orders print 3.9 on a (.9) consensus? The global macro financial numbers are are so ass backwards...
Uptick in Au and Ag. USD down.
Yen Cross...if you don't bring this conversation back to markets, who will?
Politics is BS.
We spent a lot of money not finding the WMD in Iraq. Now the Syrians say they won't use the weapons of war against their OWN citizens. But they said nothing about using them against our citizens should we invade and then subsequently spray some of their citizens who we are using as shields. This can't end well since we are currently using weapons of mass financial destruction against people of middle eastern origin. It's a bloody religious civil war that has yet to turn ugly, we should be getting out of the M.E. and reducing our expensive war machine. Every day it gobbles up middle class tax dollars shrinking the host it consumes from.
It is a tribal fight in the Middle East, and we waste our blood and treasure there...but it does pave the way for bankster and shills to earn big shekels.
It is unconstitutional for the USA to engage in such overseas war.
The British brats and DC and those with dual passports (Zionists) should pick up a gun and fight their own battles or shut the fuck up.
This Republic was not made by them and does not need them.
in reference to the "big deck" I couldn't resist sharing this..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz82fjXqFQ4
Look Italy immediatly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jr0oof_LbM
All hail the New World Order! All hail the Fed Bank! What are our dates doing on those Syrian palm trees?
When Dummocrats rund invasions, it's not evil, cause the new regime will drive Priuses...so nice to live in brainwashyland USSA.
All hail the New World Order! All hail the Fed Bank! What are our dates doing on those Syrian palm trees?
When Dummocrats rund invasions, it's not evil, cause the new regime will drive Priuses...so nice to live in brainwashyland USSA.
In the USA, you can write that.
In the Middle East or Far East, you would be killed eventually or silenced in some other way.
We are not in Kansas anymore, toto. The DC government hates us, but at least we still have our own ways if needs be.
Dhimmi Britain, the EUSSR, Putin's slave Russia, despotic Middle East - all are far worse off than the USA, and only their state agents say otherwise.
Troops, good luck and have fun. Don't forget to get attacked by both sides.
Your turn next, pet of politics who voted for war.
And you don't have the decency to be grateful that someone died for your right to vote.
Instead, you write smug nonsense, boy. You voted for war, and that is not the soldier's fault. It was your choice.
Obama signed the NDAA, and fake 'Republicans' agree. They hate you.
Some consolation for your sort:-
Some foreigners hate you more and would happily kill you.
The US sheeples have no problem bombing brown folks in the ME, especially when the spoils include hydrocarbons and pipelines. If Russia or China play their cards, the USSA will be at a historic choosing point. If the West looses a carrier to a Sunburn, game over - declare victory, roll up the empire, go home and suck your thumb for a few decades. There are plenty of "problems" in the Americas to keep the troops busy.
We are about to see if Putin will defend his line in the sand at Syria.
The big boyz and girlz are entering the cage and the main event is about to start. Cue Mayan EOTWAWKI blood sacrifice ceremonial chanting.
When defense spending falls defense industry profits fall.
When defense profits fall investors bail.
When investors bail defense stocks plunge.
When defense stocks plunge in a country dominated by defense spending, big banks go broke.
Banks must be recapitalised (it would be immoral to close them down for flagrant insolvent trading apparently, much better to kill millions of innocent people).
So a war must be started so that defence spending will rise, and investor confidence return, to stave off empire collapse.
The next time this cycle occurs though, you need a larger war each time.
Eventually the war becomes so large and generalised that you just go right ahead and blast the crap out of your major economic competitor's entire industrial base and infrastructure so that you're then the only place left for investor capital to run to.
Then you pretend war and mass butchery is very naughty, and promise to never allow it again, and to punish all evil-doers.
Not sure if this will play out too well in a world where people can shoot back with really big bombs though, as just one major EMP pulse over any continent would soon lead to a generalised regional failure to continue emergency methods to cool hundreds of spent fuel pools, within hours, days, or weeks.
Of course if somene did it to one side, then the other side would make sure the favour was returned.
So USA and Europe would become nuclear wastelands with zero chance of technical remediation, even if not one nuclear weapon ever exploded over any US or European city.
So yes Washington, just keep on propping up toxic-fiat banks and HFT pumping stocks via promoting warfare in the remorseless service of greed and lies, and see how far that defacto national 'policy' gets you before you have nowhere left that will even support your wretched unworthy "way-of-life".
Alternatively, you could just do the right thing.
Would it really be so bad to admit you have a suicidal national addiction to greed, and thus resolve the actual problem afflicting everyone? Namely your sick perverse and demented pop 'culture' of endless wanting and ego enhancement? Yeah, you just couldn't face that one, could you? You'd rather die while still denying that. Rather than to admit it's a hopeless failure, both as a way forward for your society and country, or for anyone, anywhere.
Same as it ever was.
But don't even expect that to continue you stupid fucking wretches. :D
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
The USA is the size of a continent. Precious two faced politicians have bankrupted it. There are enough Americans who can and will survive, propser and live happily with their neighbors.
The prospects for others and foreigners is not so good.
Yes, your self-destructive suicidal ego-enhancement has indeed supplanted your already gelatinous central nervous system and 'higher' brain non-functioning. Terminal mad-cow for you.
Meh to you, 'educated fool' and 'useful idiot'.
The Republic - find out what that means before you patronise the USA.
+100 Element
The problem is Israel cannot fully suppress Gaza, hold the Syrian border, and attack Hezbollah simultaneously. The timing of this action is obvious. Israel has a cease-fire in Gaza. 4 days later, the move on Syria commences. The object is to disrupt the supply lines to Hezbollah from Iran so that Israel has a free-hand to crush the Palestinians, topple neighboring governments that prove irksome, and generally pursue their Nazi policies of racial expansion into the liebensraum of neighboring Arab countries. If Hezbollah does nothing, Israel wins, because their most formidable adversary is weakened. If Hezbollah activates, Israel will try to start a wider conflict drawing Iran and the U.S. into war: which runs the risk of global war.
It is beyond ridiculous that the U.S. allows itself to be used in this fashion and the reasons for U.S. behavior go far beyond the simple explanations of Zionist money in politics and media influence. There are no examples in history of a major power effectively yielding control of its foreign policy to a minor regional power. (The blank check that Germany wrote Austria prior to the First World War is not the same, because it was in Germany's interest to challenge Anglo-Saxon hegemony on the seas and the Russian penetration into the balkans-- this is not analogous to U.S. ambitions in Syria or Iran). It would be the equivalent of Rome subjugating itself to a Gallic tribe. There is something at work here that is unique in history and should be alarming to every person in the world who is not a Zionist. It is something, I daresay, can only be called diabolical.
You can just picture the scene....
Three wise Arabs on their camels on Christmas eve, somewhere near Iran... pointing up at a moving light in the sky...
WA 1 : Is that the star of wonder?
WA 2 : Is that the star of light?
WA 3 : No. It's an Israeli jet.
Guess someone wants to tap all those oil shale deposits.
ZH is captured by warring tribe foreigners on this topic.
Hey moron, you're posting on zerohedge, a site with a global audience. It does not stop at the US offshore 12 nautical mile territorial bound, nor does it restrict itself to your parochial narcissistic petty nationalistic concerns.
Next time you post try to have something of value to say.
who crapped in your wheaties this morning?
At this point, the war appears unwinnable for Assad.
Perhaps the best thing he could do for his supporters is to step down while negotiating for a rump "Syria" centered around the Russian naval base.
However, I expect the Pentagon war hawks want to deny Russia that base. And the Obama-Hillary, John Bolton et al sect want total war (with unconditional surrender to the alleged "freedom fighers") no matter how much more blood will be spilled.
It is quite likely the US government is refusing to allow Assad any reasonable way out, and with no option but to fight to the death.
Assad is slaughtering his own people, and that is nothing to do with the USA or our people. If there is any power able to stop him, it is the House of Saud, the leader of the Muslim world, but the House of Saud allows Assad to slaughter his people.
it's a fucking civil war there, everyone is "slaughtering their own people".
and, you are sounding exactly like a 7-11 employee i talked to just before the Iraq invasion: "Saddam is killing his own people and has WMD. If not us, who else is going to do it?"
Humans love war..... and our manipulative leaders know this.
Only humans spared from war 'love' war, and vote for it at the expense of the Armed Forces who believe in values, defense of the vulnerable and country.
Honor. Liberty. No man left behind.
This is a code understood by many Western troops, and abused by greedy politicians and supine masses.
Be grateful that rough men defend your right to write and vote crap.
Western troops understand this. Others don't; they kill unarmed children and women every day in every way. But main scream media only focuses on the relatively few occasions when Westerners err.
Why is that? Because Zionists, corporatists, Muslims, socialists and communists own the main scream media and war is good for their business of enslaving as many people as they can.
The red down arrows appear before I finish writing and that tells me that ZH serves foreign interests.
"they kill unarmed children and women every day in every way."
Like with remotely operated killer drones and attack helicopters??
Western troops understand this. Others don't; they kill unarmed children and women every day in every way. But main scream media only focuses on the relatively few occasions when Westerners err.
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Westerners might have some time ago.
But 'americans', nope. Another 'american' legacy to humanity is the social construct named total war. Killing children, women is an 'american' legacy.
A war is a human activity that must include every possible forces in a society: women, kids, elders.
To be compared with the nobles' wars of the past or the traditional warrior cast system.
That others who followed in the steps of 'americans' adopted the same path(communists, fascists, nazists etc) is no big surprise, copy cats usually do that.
So when the Mongols left Baghdad in smoldering ruins, and piled the skulls of men, women and children outside the city in gigantic pyramids, were they Americans? Man, dem Americans are some powerful mofos if their legacy time-travels!
Shouldn't you be spitting on a sidewalk to ward off bad luck, or eating shark fins to get your little buddy up and running?
This isn't a war. It's more along the scale of a "drug bust".
A few days later and all will be solved in favor of US interests.
Lets not forget who, the US, provided the weapons of mass destruction originally to Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/dec/31/iraq.politics
http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/06/17/how-reagan-armed-saddam-with-chem...
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php
And let's remember that wotsisname dead Iraq leader was feeding dissenters feet first through shredding machines and his rapist son was threatening to kill the football team if they lost.
C'mon. Stop making excuses for sick Mohammadens and their Western apologists.
Oil dependence was the greatest threat to U.S. economic prosperity, national security, and fiscal stability. In the SAFE report, the writers of the report suggested maximizing oil and gas production, reducing consumption and improving conservation, which could boost revenue and reduce debt.
The USA has everything it needs to live peacefully. Politicians and greedy corporatists think otherwise, and keep making excuses for desert despots who slaughter their people under the name of the religion of pieces, Islam ruled by the House of Saud which allows the slaughter in Syria, and the rise of murderous thugs in Egypt etc.
Their will. So be it. No need for us to become involved in their medieval barbarism.