Job Quality Vs Quantity: Number Of Jobs vs Average Hourly Earnings

Tyler Durden's picture

In light of the composition of today's NFP pickup, driven by retail, waste and administrative and hospitality and leisure, all low-wage jobs, even as Construction jobs posted their first decline in many months on the "housing recovery" and on Hurricane Sandy rebuilding, we refreshed the chart showing that there is a quality not just quantity component to the jobs number. Sadly, the quality, in the form of Y/Y change of average hourly earnings, continues to be non-existent.

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Its_the_economy_stupid's picture

Crap, we're getting poor.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Prosperity is just around the corner.

Its_the_economy_stupid's picture

Can we have the chart indexed to Shadow Stats inflation estimate?

Comay Mierda's picture

really? i dont want to cry so early in the day

AldousHuxley's picture

Job "Quality" = easiest job function per dollar unearned.


ibanking for 90hours /week for mere $200k total comp where 3/4 goes to rent seekers and uncle sam is not "quality"



EnslavethechildrenforBen's picture

The Central Bankers are laughing at us groveling for slavehood where we earn an inflation adjusted 5 cents per hour and pay 4 cents an hour in taxes.

 But don't end the Fed, nooooo, that would be bad


LMAOLORI's picture



How about Gallup will that help?

U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Shoots Back Up


Corporate profits hit record as wages get squeezed

I have an ear mite I keep hearing that Giant sucking sound 

From Good Jobs To Bad Jobs To No Jobs - The Tragic Downfall Of The American Worker


No not good enough well then here's some shadow stats though not on inflation

CHART SHOCK: The REAL Unemployment Rate Is 22%


dicktator's picture

moreover, as it was posted on ZH earlier, the jobs were essentially added in the age bracket 55-69... so, well experienced, senior executive MacJobs

TruthInSunshine's picture

McJobs are all the rage. What a relief that Big Mac assembly was not reclassified to a manufacturing job as originally and seriously proprosed.

The New American Normal will (very) soon be a 30 hour workweek (to technically avoid payment of benefits/health care, as "employees" are rolled on to Obamacare-- whose "mandatory" premiums & co-pays will consume 15% to 20% of take home pay-- by the dozens of millions), a median hourly wage that's near 19/hour and that declines in real terms by 1.5% per annum, and 1 actually "employed" worker for every 3 retirees + SNAP/EBT-UI-xUI/SSI recipients, whowill  pay an average of 45% in federal, state and local taxes (ranging up to a top marginal tax rate of 65%+ for "the wealthy").

LawsofPhysics's picture

Seems to me that a "30 hour workweek" would leave a lot of free time for mischief.

Let me say it again, go long black markets and personal security firms.

TruthInSunshine's picture

Even the New York Times, the best cheerleader a Krugman-loved POTUS could ever hope for, is reporting U6 now, even if not prominently (and even if U6 significantly understates what it purports to state due to laughably incompetent survey methodologies):

U.S. Adds 146,000 Jobs


The gain in November was sharper than expected in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, but the Labor Department report also revised previous job gains for September and October downward.

By the widest measure of joblessness, unemployment also eased slightly: After factoring in people looking for work as well as those forced to take part-time positions because full-time work wasn’t available, the unemployment rate fell to 14.4 percent in November from 14.6 percent in October.


So, just a SWAG, but U6 is most likely in excess of 20%. Wooo Hoo bitchez!

max2205's picture

but, hey, everybody who wants a 30 hr job for $10 per hr can get else do you want

toady's picture

That was my dilemma before I gave up.

asteroids's picture

The chart is clear, on average you are making less. Divide that number by the ever increasing debt. You and your grandkids owe moar! Just like Greece the US edges closer to a black hole.

PD Quig's picture

A few years back the media would have been screaming about a "jobless recovery" or "low-wage McJobs."

Now they have their tongues firmly inserted into Obama's rectum and cannot get to their word processor software right now.

GMadScientist's picture

Seats don't matter. Aggregate income does.

bigdumbnugly's picture

chart that in burgers flipped per minute...

Cursive's picture


Good idea, but I want a second metric in pounds of burgers flipped per minute since everything is more filler and less killer these days.

hugovanderbubble's picture

That seems bearish ¡

Divergence between german Bund at 145.70 yield 1,30% and DAX  7.500 AWESOME





Fiscal Cliff Alert

fonzannoon's picture

Say that again...."No more QE"

Then consider if you mean it seriously.

If so then check into a mental hospital immeditaly. Don't drive there, have a neighbor take you. Be careful. Our thoughts are with you.

Ballin D's picture

Things always happen the same until they dont anymore.  If the plug is going to get pulled during this presidency, it would probably be now, when he no longer needs to worry about reelection but before he's dug us all any deeper in the hole.


It wont happen though.

azengrcat's picture

Obamacare burger flipper reshuffle

FunkyOldGeezer's picture

Proof positive that general wage stagflation has been going on for at least 15 years.

Globalisation has A LOT to answer for.


BKbroiler's picture

or a V shaped recovery.

/sarc off

Tsar Pointless's picture

Here is Table 1 of the Employment Situation Report for November 2012:

Focus only on the "Not seasonally adjusted" datum. Look at the participation rate (down to 63.5%, second-lowest in history, only behind April 2012) and the number of people considered to not be in the labor force (up over a million month-on-month). And look at the number employed (down 500k from October). And persons who currently want a job (up 350k from the prior month).

There is your "improvement" in employment.

bullet's picture

would love to see a similar chart of official jobs number vs. dropped out of workforce monthly comparison....

chunga's picture

If everyone permanently drops out of the workforce the unemployment rate will be zero percent.

That's awesome.

sullymandias's picture

that would be 0 divided by 0 which is not equal to 0

otto skorzeny's picture

those wages will go far to pay off college debt, buy a car, then a house, and then send the kids off to college

LongSoupLine's picture

All that fucking matters is the jobs headline.  The algos are latched on and it's off to the fucking moon we go.


Recovery!  I hope the BLS shitheads responsible get their arms fucking torn off by a city bus...fuck you assholes!

SheepDog-One's picture

Kind of funny how just yesterday all the 'wisdom' was speaking about a certain -20% market drop to scare into action on fiscal cliff (actually raising taxes) but anyway here we are in direct opposite land.

otto skorzeny's picture

Soup Line-you have to stop beating around the bush with how you feel-it's like dealing with the Mrs.

LongSoupLine's picture

Sorry otto, I know my thoughts can be convoluted, submissive and abstract.  I'll work on it.

SheepDog-One's picture

'Quality of jobs' means nothing as long as ObaMao can go out and brag about the unemployment # which is all anyone cares about. Until it all suddenly implodes anyway.

otto skorzeny's picture

I think (some of) the American public is waking up to the lies- the Interwebs have helped alot.

francis_sawyer's picture

Obama (in President) since 2008 means that all blacks go out & buy beemers then default on the payments... So far it's looking pretty swell...'s picture

I can just see a fat rich guy sitting in his leather chair surrounded by his wood lined office, wearing a smug grin, petting his white imported cat knowing only headlines matter and that he will get richer'er and the rest of us will get poorer'er

Mike in GA's picture

Most of the rich guys I know don't have wood lined offices, they aren't fat, they don't sit with a white imported cat on their lap ever, and they work too hard to be anywhere near smug.

They're American hard work success stories.


LawsofPhysics's picture

I think he is confused with TBTF people in the banking/finance sector that have your representation in their hip pocket.

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

If they're working hard, it's probably because they're not actually rich.  Reggie had a pretty good definition, if you have to work for a living (even as a Fortune 500 CEO), you're not rich.  


Dr. Engali's picture

But our household wealth is back to 2007 levels. How can this be? What they don't say is how that 2012 dollar won't buy you what a 2007 dollar would. We are getting poorer as a nation any way you look at it.

youngman's picture

That is what Obama wants....he thinks we are a greedy country..use to much to to well and we put the costs on the rest of the world....he wants to take us down to their level....redistribution.....

Dr. Engali's picture

Yep and it's working too.

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

Vladimir Lenin

MachoMan's picture

“The way to crush the middle class is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”


takinthehighway's picture

This is the same Obama that is taking the $4 million dollar vacation in Hawaii, is that correct?

Kobe Beef's picture

I'm praying for volcanoes and tidal waves.