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There is "no point" earning less in a minimum wage job is how Leanna Broderick - 20-year-old mother of two - justifies the benefits she claims adding that "she is better off on benefits" and would not get a job unless she could continue her luxury lifestyle, which includes designer outfits, holidays abroad, clubbing, lunches out and expensive gifts for her daughters Zelekah, two, and Zakirah, one. The UK's Daily Mail reports that Leanna saved GBP2,500 (~USD4,000) last year while living on GBP15,480 (~USD25,000) which she intends to spend on iPads and gold earrings for her kids - adding that "This way, taxpayers know I'm raising two well-brought-up kids." However, all is not rosy in Leanna's house as she fears next year may not be so lavish because of Government benefits cuts. "I'm not against the cuts, but only if the Government helps me find a job," she said, "In the meantime, I’ll stay on benefits and get as much as I can out of it."

 

Via The Daily Mail:

While many families are worrying about how to afford Christmas this year, one jobless single mother has revealed she receives so much in benefits she has £2,000 to spend on designer gifts, clothes and partying.

 

Mother-of-two Leanna Broderick plans to buy 20 presents for each of her children, including Burberry and Ralph Lauren outfits, iPads and gold jewellery.

 

The 20-year-old, who has never worked, claims nearly £15,500 a year in state handouts.

 

 

 

She claims she is better off on benefits and would not get a job unless she could continue her luxury lifestyle, which includes designer outfits, holidays abroad, clubbing, lunches out and expensive gifts for her daughters Zelekah, two, and Zakirah, one.

 

‘Last year, I saved £2,500 and my kids had 50 presents each, including Burberry and Ralph Lauren clothes and dolls, DVDs and CDs.

 

This year, I’ve saved £2,000 and they’ll get 20 presents each, including iPads and a new Disney-themed bedroom to share, with designer wall art and bed linen,’ she said.

 

She is also buying gold earrings for Zelekah, who has pierced ears, and keeping £300 for the sales and £150 for a New Year’s Eve outing.

 

Miss Broderick, who left school at 16 with no GCSEs, said: ‘I don’t care if people get annoyed. I don’t take advantage, I just choose to save – it’s smart.’

 

She said there was ‘no point’ earning less in a minimum wage job and having to pay for childcare on top.

 

After becoming pregnant at 17 with her on-off 23-year-old boyfriend, Miss Broderick was allocated a temporary three-bed council house.

 

When Zelekah was eight months old she considered working in care, but then became pregnant again by the same man.

 

Now split from the girls’ father, she has a new two-bedroom council flat in Croydon, South London, with a garden, which is paid for by her £111 weekly housing benefit – part of £1,290 a month total claim.

 

She said: ‘I didn’t want to miss out on my kids’ childhoods or have someone else raise them. I’m not one of those girls who gets pregnant for the benefits.’

 

The money for Christmas comes from the £250 she saves each month, which she said shows she is ‘really responsible’.

 

She adds: ‘Anyone who thinks people on benefits don’t deserve nice things is talking rubbish. I work 24/7 as a mother.

 

This way, taxpayers know I’m raising two well-brought-up kids.’

 

But she admits Christmas might not be so lavish next year because of the Government’s benefit cuts.

 

‘I’m not against the cuts, but only if the Government helps me find a job,’ she said.

 

In the meantime, I’ll stay on benefits and get as much as I can out of it.’

The full feature appears in Closer Christmas issue, on sale now or go to www.closeronline.co.uk

 

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Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:34 | 3055310 darteaus
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First he gets on and then he gets off - again?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:20 | 3054078 object_orient
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What's going on here? A few infamous ZH posters suddenly reappeared after long absences. Now this Daily Mail piece, clearly designed to bring out the racists, gets picked up. Is it sweeps week?

ZH editors decided to use the most inflammatory parts of an already inflammatory article. Here's what you missed if you didn't read the original:

I go to the Job Centre every six months, as it’s government policy, but there’s no point earning less than I get in benefits and forking out for childcare. I feel trapped in the system

I’ve taken the kids to Canada to see their dad’s parents three times. We’ve been to Tunisia and just got back from Tenerife. It’s important they see the world – my parents and their dad chip in, too.

I go clubbing with my friends every fortnight and love having lunch at Italian restaurant Prezzo. I dress nicely as I don’t want to be labelled a ‘benefits mum.’

I shop at Iceland and buy in bulk to get the most for my money, and my milk and veg vouchers make a big difference. I buy some of my presents in the sales – I’m always bargain hunting.

 

And why is there so much anger with welfare from 0-20k, and so little anger with welfare from 100k-infinity? No connection between monetary policy and the cost of living, wages, and employment?

 

This is so clearly divide-and-conquer bait, and yet so many here took it. Really depressing.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:48 | 3054216 tip e. canoe
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perhaps our dear leader(s) are trying to tell us something in their own doppelgangnam style sort of way.   bait is being dropped all over suddenly...and not just here.    shi(f)t may be hitting fan soon after all.   best to keep a cool head just in case.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:35 | 3054414 alien-IQ
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What is left out of an article is often times more revealing than what is in it.

The decision to omit that section here is very telling...and it's the second time today that I've seen such things occur here. The first one being in the California Workers 822K headline that was very very misleading.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:39 | 3054423 hooligan2009
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two axe murders dont make a right

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:42 | 3054744 vast-dom
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object_orient you are correct. that is why this post got a nice fight club shit all over it. too many hateful inane evil shits here in ZH.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:32 | 3055305 darteaus
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I must respectfully disagree with your comment: "Daily Mail piece, clearly designed to bring out the racists..."

It never mentioned the JOOOZZZzzzz!

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:21 | 3054081 Dr. Gonzo
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Thank God she's not worried about anything.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:24 | 3054083 steve from virginia
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It's hard to say what the terms actually mean but in the US a tax credit is a reduction in the amount of income that is taxable. If a worker earns $20,000 per year and gains a $3,000 credit his taxable income is $17,000 per year.

 

Here we have:

 

 - GBP 444 monthly housing benefit (paid to the landlord),

 - GBP  80 monthly council tax benefit (another amount paid to the landlord which is council housing ... a housing project). This might not be an actual payment to anyone but a double-counted bookkeeping entry. Let's just say the family in question does not pay rent directly.

 

 - GBP 430 monthly child-tax benefit. Because the individual does not have any listed income it seems unlikely she would qualify for a tax benefit (no taxable income) so it might be that this amount is a payment to the individual. (similar to US ADFC which no longer exists).

 

  -- This last item would add up to GBP 5160 per year or $8,312 (welfare payment).

 

 --  Added are the child, single-parent and food benefits and the total for these is GBP 4032 per year or $6,497.

 

The GBP 288 per year food allowance ($464) for three people is a fantasy it is a little over one dollar per day. This would be starvation-level food allowance in a high-cost country such as the UK. More likely, the family food bill is GBP 2400 per year which is still very low -- a 'rice and beans' subsistance.

 

Total cash in hand for the individual and her 2 children is $14,809 per year.

 

This must pay for transportation, personal care and clothes. Also: furniture, bedding, towels and bath items, personal goods and cosmetics, hair care, books or school supplies.

 

Utilities are part of council housing, medical care is by NHS.

 

She has:

 - no car and does not buy gas,

 - walks everywhere (transit in UK is very expensive),

 - does not smoke, drink alcohol or soda, does not use drugs,

 - does not go out for entertainment such as movies or dinners at restaurants,

 - has no hobbies or other expenses.

 

It is hard to see a young person living like this in England, it would make sense in a country with a 'traditional' culture like Pakistan or Vietnam.

 

It appears unrealistic ... propaganda ... about Burberry and gold. This woman and her children ... with their tiny benefits ... are camped out at the edge of the abyss.

 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:37 | 3054417 hooligan2009
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i think you need to know that she gets rent food clothing free...plus gets a personal dole benefit of 110 a week so she can breathe..oh and she may be "clean" but i bet her "on again, off again" boyfriend slips her the odd hundred (cockney rhyming slang = a couple of monkeys) whenever he needs a root. 

her kids should be taken away from her and she should be forced to clean hospitals, schools and government offices.

what a slack ass mofo stealing bitch. who's money does she think it is? it is certainly not hers.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:51 | 3054642 ZeroAvatar
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If I could keep the money the .gov steals from me so she can 'camp out at the edge of the abyss', maybe I could go camping once in awhile.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:36 | 3055314 darteaus
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Au contraire mon frere!

A tax credit is a one for one reduction in the amount of tax to be paid.

A deduction is a reduction in the taxable income.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:22 | 3054088 Miffed Microbio...
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It's very difficult to decide which group disturbs me more: the banksters sucking the wealth out of nations or the welfare parasites. Both at the opposite ends of the spectrum and both feel they deserve the benefits they enjoy. Perhaps one should hate the bankster more because the magnitude of wealth they extract is greater. Well, I assume they do so .... never found any hard numbers to prove it. Here I sit in the middle with both ends coming at me. I'm just prepping to survive and if I don't, I guess they can eat each other. Well at least she'll have some gold earrings when the whole thing blows up.

Miffed:-)

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:31 | 3054135 Clint Liquor
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Well said Miffed.

But it is any easy choice for me, which group to dislike the most.

When it all comes down, the Banksters will be flying off to South Pacific Islands to live in luxury. The others will not have it so well.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:13 | 3054550 nmewn
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The middle class has always meant...we have higher order parasites and lower order parasites sucking off of us.

All we really need to understand is, they are just parasites.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:22 | 3054705 Miffed Microbio...
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Parasites actually are quite fascinating. Some have their existence down to an art. Living just enough off their human hosts but not enough to cause serious harm. Then there are what we term the " imperfect " parasites . The ones that cause serious disease. Often they are parasites of other animals that find themselves in a human. They wander around wreaking havoc not sure what to do in this environment and because they don't know how to live in this new host they end up killing it and therefore themselves. In pretty much all cases the host reaches a tipping point where the number of parasites is unsustainable. Kinda metaphorical to the times we live in Fellow Host Nmewn

Miffed:-)

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:36 | 3054733 tip e. canoe
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another metaphoric gem courtesy of our friend aurora:

Parasites come in all shapes and forms. From skinny tapeworms that infest intestines to the microscopic infectious agent of malaria (Plasmodium), parasites are usually inconvenient and sometimes lethal. But there is one group of parasites that is particularly pernicious – they are the parasites that hijack their host’s nervous system, turning their victims into zombies.

http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/1.toc

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:27 | 3054108 Lord Peter Pipsqueak
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And to add insult to injury,the Uk government tells us the floodgates have to remain open to allow in 500,000 immigrants per year to live off the state just like the woman in the article above, telling us we need them because they provide an economic stimulus to the economy and they are going to eventually pay for our pensions in years to come.

Of course no journo or tv presenter ever asks the obvious questions as to how immigrant families with numerous kids requiring housing,health care,child benefits and education even in the unlikely event of them getting a minimum wage job, will be net contributors to the system as they will always be in receipt of some form of welfare and in the end who will pay for their pensions?

And the British -and European - people keep voting for these politicians at every general election,too stupid to even realise they are voting for their own ethnic cleansing.

 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:34 | 3054147 harry555
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Well said.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:05 | 3054299 W74
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That's because if they say anything they'll be Emma West'ed and hauled off to jail, then run through the courts and end up in a psych ward for re-education.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:44 | 3054445 WillyGroper
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Stimulus, OK. Economic, don't think so.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:32 | 3054140 bankonthebust
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Fuck That Bitch.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 01:20 | 3054804 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, if you must , please use an unbreakable condom.

Miffed:-)

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:35 | 3054152 Flakmeister
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This generation's welfare queen driving a Cadillac...

Yawn....

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:41 | 3054180 FiatFapper
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Disgusting piece of propaganda; in the UK they are sweeping through massive benefit cuts....ANYTHING to turn eyes from banksters who caused all the shit in the first place.

Sure there are some who lavish the 'culture', but it pails into insignificance with what banks have stolen through 1) no due diligence nor risk assessment 2) giving loans to anybody, 3) selling that debt as AAA, 4) getting fucking bailed out, 5) then the cheeky cunts try to chase down the original debt(s), 6) ad infinitum, the QE boats will sail whence they then have the audacity to lend to their own g'ments @ interest, and the taxpayers foot the bill

But no, the MSM and now ZH post asinine articles about a mom of 2 living like a queen.

The propaganda is so blatant to make people believe it's the dole addicts who are to blame.

This article is bullshit.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:46 | 3054206 harry555
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"it pails into insignificance with what banks have stolen through".

 

No it doesn't FF.  Add up all the welfare bills over a year and compare it to the salaries (loot) from the banking sector.  The welfare bill is easily several times larger.  Both are theft.  And remember, in large part the credit boom made the welfare state possible in the first place.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:23 | 3054363 FiatFapper
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Eh?!

UK work & pensions: £150 billion

BoE has given £375 billion to their bank mates.

In the UK there are only four major banks.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:18 | 3054888 ronaldawg
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So we GET the moral equivalence that liberals/democrats/socialists enjoy:  Because there are bankers stealing at the top, Niggers can steal anything they want.

GOT IT!

FORWARD!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:32 | 3054984 harry555
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QE buys Government bonds you moron.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 19:28 | 3057713 FiatFapper
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Bond issuance is g'ments borrowing money, which has to paid back with interest.

Banks get free money from central banks then loan that same money to g'ments with an expectation of principal + coupon.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:51 | 3055376 Lord Peter Pipsqueak
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Fiatfapper why don't you check your facts before posting leftwing bias and lies?The unemployed got a 5.2% increase in their welfare payments last year as that is what the govt fiddle factor said RPI was at the time of the annual increase, that is 5.2% more than the rise most working people got last year who are the ones who actually pay for all these people week in week out,a lot of people in the UK took a pay cut just to keep their job,so please in future either get your facts right or take your lies somewhere else.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 19:29 | 3057716 FiatFapper
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I'm not lying...you shill.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:42 | 3054184 harry555
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Sterilization

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:08 | 3054870 Non Passaran
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What a moron.
And I am sure that too should be done at the expense of taxpayers?

1. I love these stories - they are great because there isn't nearly enough outrage about this kind of stuff.
2. The solution is simple - cancel said benefits today.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:43 | 3054189 Freewheelin Franklin
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children are innocent
a teenager's fucked up in the head
adults are even more fucked up
and elderlies are like children
will there be another race
to come along and take over for us?
maybe martians could do
better than we've done

we'll make great pets!

my friend says we're like the dinosaurs
only we are doing ourselves in
much faster than they
ever did

we'll make great pets!
we'll make great pets!
we'll make great pets!
we'll make great pets!
we'll make great pets!


Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:45 | 3054202 PGR88
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Can I get this woman's telephone number?  

I want to date her.   I bet she is an AWESOME lay.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:45 | 3054204 absente reo
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Fucking hell, in times gone by it was the necessity of self-reliance that helped to keep families (i.e. parents) together.  Parents needed to provide for themselves and their children otherwise they would live in hardship, perhaps extreme hardship.

Now that the fucking State has stepped in and decided that everyone is entitled to a comfortable standard of living regardless of ANYTHING, there is no glue helping to keep couples together through the bad times, to keep trying, to make things work.

What eventuates is a nation full of single parents, supported by huge benefits.

What a fucking mess.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:53 | 3054230 devo
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There are just as many rich milking the system on the other end.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:53 | 3054240 Godisanhftbot
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 different, less abhorrent teat?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:57 | 3054260 devo
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I think it's just as bad.

Taking large bonuses and flying private jets after the 2008 collapse is worse than someone with no money taking a few grand?

It's all crap, but I hate how ZH gangs up citizens against the poor because of the few bad seeds and when the rich are gutting the country (look at the wealth gap since 1970). Anyway.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:40 | 3054616 WAMO556
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And how many POOR ass holes are there sucking at the tit??? They are dangerous.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:37 | 3054725 devo
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Inflation hurts the poor most.

Even Hayek was for social programs for the poor to provide a minimum standard of living. Read the Road to Serfdom. He also went on social programs late in his life (as did Ayn Rand).

We're all one bad day away from being poor. I find what the wealth extractors like Buffet/Koch, bankers, and military industrial complex do to be more offensive. At least the poor need and use the wealth they extract from society.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 01:50 | 3054849 WAMO556
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Listen you toad, your not going to get a pass. What was meant was PRIVATE CHARITY. Your heros gladly took from PRIVATE CHARITY where the monies were freely given. Public charities are organized criminal enterprises designed to TAKE from the private sector by force if necessary, by petty tyrants. PAY UP OR WE WILL EQUALIZE YOU!!!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:00 | 3054962 devo
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Yeah you sound normal.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:53 | 3054234 Godisanhftbot
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YOU ARE NOT OF THE BODY

 

Sheeet, this is an old, long in the tooth story. If you are actually working and paying taxes, don't you know you have millions, no 10's of millions of dependants that call you daddy?

 

Now move along, you racist swine and pass the ipad.


Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:00 | 3054277 All Out Of Bubblegum
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In the 18th century, there were a few "breeding" plantations scattered about in the slaves states. Female slaves didn't do a lot of work, were fed and housed and were only expected to procreate so their children could be sold off or used for further breeding.

 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:04 | 3054297 dolph9
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Men of the UK and America:  there's a reason why the Asian boys are kicking your ass and will continue to kick your ass.

Because you thought it was a good idea to slaughter your brethren in Germany, twice.

And now you come up with all sorts of contrived, contorted moral arguments why you should work your asses off to support these leechers, both at home and abroad.

And you risk your life and limb for your corporate masters and their Jewish overlords, and to make the world safe for 7 billion hungry mouths.

I mean, you are basically just finished.  You are a self-sacrificing evolutionary dead end.

 

Unless....you are willing to throw off your shackles and say to the world:  I don't give a fuck, and I'll die, but you'll die too.  And I'll see you in hell.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:01 | 3054496 Taffy Lewis
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Well, Dolph9, there's Option C: move to Asia and be part of the ass-kickers. I'm one year and 5 months away at most.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:22 | 3054891 ronaldawg
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He sort has a point on Germany - and they hate our guts too.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:07 | 3054311 mc_LDN
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Someone needs to ensure poor stupid people cant reproduce. The single biggest problem worldwide is poor people having 9 children who are as uneducated as their mother burdening everyine around them. If we didnt support them they wouldnt multiply.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 06:07 | 3055053 dark pools of soros
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Seems like a good plot line for a movie... Hmm. Call it Idiocracy

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:08 | 3054312 10mm
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Part of the overall plan,divide and concure.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:33 | 3054357 Kastorsky
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yall should pray there are more like her and they breed like rabbits.

After all, "this is consumer economy", isn't it?

Who else would buy your shit and services?

 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:23 | 3054364 Mad Mohel
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Well folks, it is either the moochers or the workers. The way things are going, eventually one of these two groups will have to become Soylent Green. Would you eat or be eaten?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:29 | 3054382 fukidontknow
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Quick Mervyn print her up some dosh I heard Gucci have a new kids line out!

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:34 | 3054404 dexter_morgan
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Why she need the gubmit to find her a job, no wonderful unions over across the pond?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:50 | 3054458 tony bonn
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leanna is not impoverished from her circumstances but from the perverse incentives she has not to work....sometimes shoveling shit is the best the lord gives and it should be done to avoid penury....when people neeed help they should receive it, but paying people not to work is evil.....

for those begrudging helping the needy, fuck you!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:57 | 3055046 dark pools of soros
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Birds don't give a shit about the needy - feed them to the stray cats

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:53 | 3054464 hannah
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this story is fucking nothing. i found out that illegals from nigeria are coming to the united states and getting like 10 retarded kids from the state as care giver guardians and getting $2000 per kid a month. they lasted about 12mths before the state shut them down because they werent feeding the kids/babies...then they just went back to nigeria....probably sent the relatives over next.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:53 | 3055045 dark pools of soros
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And also care givers for old dibilitated that they just park their drooling ass in a corner of the mall while they go shop and eat

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:52 | 3054465 Bicycle Repairman
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her luxury lifestyle, which includes designer outfits [probably bought used], holidays abroad [takes the chunnel to France?], clubbing [her date pays for the club and liquor and she provides....], lunches out [at an Applebees, no liquor] and expensive gifts for her daughters Zelekah, two, and Zakirah, one [teeny tiny mink coats?].

Does she have a car, flat screen or Obama-phone?  Probably not.

This lifestyle works at 20.  It won't at 30.

Can you live in the USA on $25,000?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:14 | 3054878 newengland
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That two faced legs wide opened bitch is stealing from kids who work for a living. She gets, while they give.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:00 | 3054493 snowlywhite
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gimme a break, this is bs

 

15k/year in London with 2 children... yeah, sure is lavish. Even with the puny rent.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:24 | 3054894 ronaldawg
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Get a fucking clue - she should not be eating at all.  Kids should go to productive people, not moochers.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:02 | 3054499 ZFiNX
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Oh, jesus, shit storm is imminent. There have been about 5 noteable events in the past few days. It feels like a stock right before it surges.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:11 | 3054537 Freewheelin Franklin
Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:23 | 3054565 ZFiNX
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oops. wrong story.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:06 | 3054675 TheObsoleteMan
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This young woman has done NOTHING productive with her life {except spread her legs} and wants rewarded for it by those who have.  Getting welfare should be a contract: you get the benefits, but must get an education or trade schooling. Failure to comply will result in loss of benefits for 10 years. Tied tubes should be a componet too. But of course that is not what the whole idea behind the welfare state is all about anyway. They know better.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:15 | 3054682 akak
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I agree 100%.

 

PS: " ... and wants to be rewarded for it ...."

Funny how often people leave out the "to be" part of the phrase.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:01 | 3055969 madcows
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anyone for forced sterilization for the perpetual abusers?

Or, a little less agressive, free birthcontrol, and no more welfare if you have another kid while on the dole?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:34 | 3057575 Cathartes Aura
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jeez, just lock 'em up, sell tickets for access - make $$$ off the deal. . .

don't know how that's gonna square with the "force 'em to give birth" crowd, but I'm sure youse guys can find a wyrmhole that suits you sir!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:24 | 3054713 Godisanhftbot
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 Bet 90% of the food stampers here are fos

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:50 | 3054750 dognamedabu
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Wed, 12/12/2012 - 00:45 | 3054751 dognamedabu
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The one coming out furthest ahead is the father. Im sure there are more than a few upstanding dads out there married to the same type of material girl and footing the bill for them and this broad and not getting laid by either one - Yet somehow still feel like you've been fucked.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:43 | 3055038 dark pools of soros
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Best move would be to hook up with one of those single moms and rent a room to them to grab that steady rent money. Then set her up a webcam studio to whore online all day tax free into her pay pal account via 'donations'

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 01:45 | 3054839 q99x2
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You go girl. Nice to see someone on my side of things for a change. We have to stimulate the revolution by starving the beast. Otherwise the sheeple will go along until they are pounded into the dirt. Get that money while its hot.

This is a quote from someone on sparknotes.com about Milton's Satan.

"Fraud is an especially damaging sin because it is invisible to others, hurting them in ways they are not even aware of. Dante maintains that fraud is the worst of all sins. Milton goes almost as far in showing that leading innocent people to evil is much worse than leading yourself to evil."

So although the financial terrorists at the FED and TBTF's initiated the fraud and made it legal for this lady and her children they are involving her in it as well as the population of the United States of America.

On January 20, 2013 there will be a mass prayer to remove the fraud from the system and restore employment to those decent folks that choose to earn a living by working. I'm hoping it will dethrone the ChairSatan and his apostles.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:31 | 3054897 newengland
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You pay for her then.

You don't have to do that, so pay for someone outside your own family. Oops. You probably can't do that either.

I can.

Actions speak louder than words. 

The bitch who whines and excuses herself in this story is everything that is wrong in modern politics.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:36 | 3057580 Cathartes Aura
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wow - everything!!!

 

so if we just remove her, it's fixed?

 

#winning!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:00 | 3054861 John1950
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It's the daily mail...a government 'paper.

AND don't forget. she will be receiving the payments for the children (enforced by the child support agency) from the father/s.

Everyone else gets a lot less...some £70/wk for a single person.

 

But then, it is the daily mail, and renowned for inaccuracy.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:08 | 3054862 newengland
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Ignorant people will admire and follow the words of those they admire in politics and celebrities and Hollywood.

When the money runs out, the poor people will be bewildered...while those they admired in politics, celebrity and Hollywood run off with the money, and kudos.

I don't blame the ignorant. I blame the hateful whores of money: politicians, and their fans in Hollywood, the main scream media - duped by central banks, the AshkeNAZI.

Britain is doomed, and Parliament and its Whitehall don't care because they rely on the EUSSR.

Foward! And profit for bureaucrats and the political class.

Fck 'em.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:14 | 3054882 MeelionDollerBogus
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Should we be disgusted at this lazy bitch or happy that she's so public about it, it proves us all right that welfare queens are real, are a real problem and should end welfare forever?

Holy shit. At least those who have a disability or some humility and are trying for work I think should have an option but this bitch? Should be BANNED from benefits FOR LIFE. Wilfully refusing to look for work & admitting it should be a life-time ban from benefits. Period.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:21 | 3054885 newengland
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Agreed.

The bitch is living off kids who work for a living while she spreads her legs and begets the next generation of useless gits.

It is disgusting that the trusting ignorant young pay for a whore like her who mirrors the behavior of the celebrities and politicians she admires - those that she sees on her tax paid TV...the ones who also think they are oh so very special, just because they can scam everyone else into paying for them.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:29 | 3054898 ronaldawg
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But you missed the REST of the story of how she is really trying and just cannot find a job no matter how hard she tries....NOT.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:41 | 3054903 newengland
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:-)

She's a money grubbing bitch of the sort that gives hope to tax thieving Yesminster,  Whitewash and CONgress,  so that they can all get away with scamming the taxpayers and workers.

That bitch and her ilk deserve to die, as their globalist government protectors wage endless war and deprive British troops of first rate kit.

That bitch gets more protection than the honest Tom who fights for her right to choose.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:32 | 3055029 dark pools of soros
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And she can spend all day whoring or dealing drugs for even more tax free cash. Or write blogs or day trade futures or short currencies like soros.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:39 | 3057587 Cathartes Aura
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so wait, let me be sure. . .

the woman in the article, she's a. . . bitch?

and as a bitch, she's responsible for

deprive British troops of first rate kit.

just wanted to be sure.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:38 | 3055036 dark pools of soros
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She can easily say she is a fashion consultant with no clients because of the recent downturn. Times are tough and when it turns around she'll be off the dole. And give her a phone too damnit

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:14 | 3054883 ItsDanger
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Full time job as a parasite she should say.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:17 | 3054886 ZIRPThis
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Sad part is that this story could've just as easily ran in any US newspaper with equal believability.  Worthless, entitlement mentality, able-bodied parasites.  We deserve all the fucking bankruptcy we have coming to us.  Texas better get off its ass & secede already so the productive have somewhere to go before the shit hits the fan next year.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:25 | 3054893 newengland
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The 10th Amendment. Yes.  The sovereignty of states. Enough of this whore BS in individuals and central government, and Hollywood and their main scream media propagandsists.

I am sorry for other people's troubles, but the USA was founded as a Republic of responsible individuals - not a democracy, rule by mob.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:38 | 3054901 TheObsoleteMan
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When I was a young man, couples got married and STAYED married for  good reasons: The wife needed the husbands income. There were no lofty court settlements back then. And welfare {relief they called it} was hard to get, and it was meager {as it should be}. The husband stayed married for career reasons: A never married man was looked at as "defective", or worse; gay. The divorced man was looked at as a failure and/or unreliable. If he can't keep his home in line, why trust him with accounts? This was the way the old guard saw the matter. Everyone was expected to get married, and once you were, you stayed that way. That is not to say it was a perfect arrangement, it wasn't, but it was far better than what we have now.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:45 | 3054912 newengland
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Humans are flawed. Some more than others.

Loyalty, commitment, self-sacrifice: this makes civilisation, the future. Like you, I regret nothing because I know I did the right thing, not the easy thing.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:23 | 3055022 dark pools of soros
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But in the name of economic growth why not increase the handouts by stealing from the future to line the pockets of Walmart and slumlords? And better yet, more handouts so she can shop in Neiman's and vacation in Vegas?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:43 | 3054909 Groucho
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Does anybody actually believe that it is possible to live a life of "luxury" on $25k?. Typically stories like this are written with the requisite dose of racism and poor bashing to distract all the fucking retards from what's really going on. "Hey don't worry about the billionaires that have ruined your fucking economy, look at this bitch living the high life on the dole!". Judging by the comments there are a lot of fucking retards reading this site.

G

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:43 | 3054910 Groucho
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Does anybody actually believe that it is possible to live a life of "luxury" on $25k?. Typically stories like this are written with the requisite dose of racism and poor bashing to distract all the fucking retards from what's really going on. "Hey don't worry about the billionaires that have ruined your fucking economy, look at this bitch living the high life on the dole!". Judging by the comments there are a lot of fucking retards reading this site.

G

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:56 | 3054919 newengland
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The bitch has got money for doing nothing except opening her legs while many of her peers slog to make a living, and pay tax for her lazy way.

Meanwhiile, billionaire supporters of brat politicians urge more taxes that the billionaires won't pay because they have clever accountants to excuse them, and the brat politicians do too.

You are a fool or as Lenin said 'a useful idiot' or 'educated fool.'

Read the story again. The bitch is hateful, and abusing everyone, although her thinking does suit modern political slaves of central banksters...the debt drug pushers.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:41 | 3057597 Cathartes Aura
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The bitch is hateful

the irony.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:14 | 3055016 dark pools of soros
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Go talk to some single mom strippers or better yet those web cam girls who can spend all day online whoring from their cushy homes. All tax free extra income of course.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:51 | 3054918 TheObsoleteMan
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$25k can go a long way when all of your living expenses are paid for you by someone else.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 02:56 | 3054922 TheObsoleteMan
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BTW; They too are fair game, they are just the other plate of the vise that is crushing those of us in the middle. On one end we have the rent-seeking uber wealthy, and on the other, well, the literal rent-seekers! We don't stand a snowballs chance in hell between them.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 03:33 | 3054924 newengland
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I must disagree with you on this point. New England survived poverty, war, hate. And we will do again, by staying close to home.

Buy local; defend the Republic.

The money grubbing underclass and overlords are constant in their hateful greed.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 03:53 | 3054960 Joe A
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She found a daddy to give her kids and then she found a big daddy to look after them.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:18 | 3054972 marriedgeordie
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Interestingly, her total annual benefits are about the same as my total annual tax bill. Can I come and shag her someday, since I am effectively paying for her lifestyle? I actually think that if every pretty girl like her were assigned some oldfart taxpayer like me, who had the right to come and bone her anytime he damn wished, that would create a nice incentive for her lazy ass to go find that fucking job.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:06 | 3055013 dark pools of soros
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Nah, she probably spends all her free time as a dominatrix taking the rest of those old fart's money

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:32 | 3054982 fukidontknow
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Quick Mervyn print me up some dosh I've heard Gucci have a new kids line!

 

http://richandrenee.wordpress.com/

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:46 | 3055001 GernB
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This is rediculous. How can rich white folks like Warren Buffet feel so warm and toasty about how generous they are with other peoples money, if not for fine people like this woman volenteering to be the object of thier generosity.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:51 | 3055004 dark pools of soros
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And how much off the books whoring and stripping many of these moms do to add to thier kardashian budget?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 04:52 | 3055006 robf355
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Only in the uk could you get a tax credit when you don't work.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 06:40 | 3055077 atomiclown
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Only in the UK you can re-hypothecate to infinity ...

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:33 | 3055030 squexx
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Sterilize the parasitic whore and the rest of the worthless whores just like her!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:38 | 3055035 mumbo_jumbo
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why can't companies offer jobs that pay more than government handouts? it seems to me that the 'benefits' have been keeping up with government bogus inflation numbers and yet wages for most not even close.....so....

cause and effect?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 06:55 | 3055094 smacker
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In a proper functioning economy, companies pay wages that are both affordable and competitive.

Those who are unable/unwilling to work should never expect that their welfare benefits are kept in line with wages. There is no logical reason for that expectation, because the two aims are entirely different. Welfare benefits should be calculated based upon what costs actually are and necessary. And they should never be equal to or greater than what a person could earn if they chose to work for a living. Sadly, the UK Labour Party have been using the Welfare System to buy votes for decades and the Conservative Party dare not take a chainsaw to benefits for fear of being electorally wiped out. Creeping socialism.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:02 | 3055135 Peterus
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Companies are not free to "offer jobs" without any consideration. Wages in will tend to equal discounted marginal value productivity of a worker. How much would employer loose in his entire production process if this employee left? This is maximum wage that is sustainable. You could pay more, but you will just go broke.

If you want high wages - cut "costs of work" like social security and maximize efficiency. Demanding anything from employers is pointless. Even if you can force them to pay more than employees bring to their business, it will just end in a string of bankruptcies and unemployment.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 06:39 | 3055075 atomiclown
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I'm cool ... self-destruction is built into the system ... we just need to wait for the entire Western welfare system to implode and we will all go back riding camels.  Social benefits recepients will make perfect slaves as they are used to it already

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 06:43 | 3055083 atomiclown
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It's free, swipe your EBT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 07:46 | 3055118 DollarDive
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Who is more stupid ?  

Taxpayers that tolerate it or people like her that use the system ? 

Would this have been permitted 200 years ago.  I think not.  Citizens used to have the guts to stand up to government.  Today society is a bunch of McDonald fed pansies that wouldn't dare to stand up for what they truly believe.  It's easier to make stupid comments on blogs about how bad it is, instead of really taking action.  

We are all guilty of this.

She's loving life.  

Don't blame her for making the best decision for herself.  

It's really not her fault.

It's everyone's fault for agreeing to live with a system that permits it.

Classic case of blaming the victim.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:20 | 3055153 Peterus
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She's not blameless if she is actively advocating for this system. If she's not voting, or at least not voting for more welfare - than I can agree.

But fault or not, no one is obliged to keep her pampered. If one day checks just stop coming, good luck to her, but no one will have any obligation to help her.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:17 | 3055147 Peterus
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Brits just don't work in minimum wage jobs. They're all covered by immigrants. Even minimum wage there is pretty good for many, and if you go back home and change pounds to whatever weak currency - it looks really good.

Anyway, individuals deep in welfare made their choice. They suck on their State's tits and live comfortably. I don't think it is morally wrong and even less so as all these people went through public shools. But this strategy depends on the size of milk reserve and competition. When State collapses or cuts welfere to the bone just in time to barely hang on - they are left with no career, no skills, no experience, no work ethics and no usefull contacts. There may yet be people starving to the death on streets of European or American cities - most of them will be welfere addicts on withdrawal.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:53 | 3055384 QuietCorday
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What happens is that a lot of these women get into their mid 30s, and then the benefits stop because the children are over 18. Apparently, according to a doctor chap who writes about "Broken Britain", many of these teen benefit mums end up developing quite serious depressive disorders -- they have no skills, nothing to do, no society, no money, and no chance at a job. But obviously, they do not think about that when they are in their late teens and start down this road.

Others keep having babies, spacing them so the benefits continue until their late 50s (if you manage to have a child when you are around 40 or so). Yes, you can be kept by the state for almost your entire life if you are clever about it. Only then there is a gap between your last child turning 18 and your pension age. These women are going to find they are in absolutely penury in their late fifties and early sixties.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:37 | 3056114 maximin thrax
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It's not so much the individual who is "on the dole" for a lifetime that bugs me. It's that individual bringing childern into the world who will also go on the dole, using money that was to help that person out of poverty, but will instead firmly ensconce that person, and her children, into poverty. One has to be blind not to see that government handouts are like fertilizer for the cycle of dependency.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:29 | 3055162 Catullus
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From the looks of this, the Welfare Queen stories really hit the disillusioned liberals pretty hard.  My favorite is the "this pales in comparison to what the bankers are doing."

What's missing is that government spending and debt issuance IS what keeps the banks going.  They use the government debt as collateral for their fiat money system.  The bankster needs the welfare state to produce more debt or the game stops.  And the government allows the bankster to do as he pleases BECAUSE said bankster finances the government debt. 

The Welfare Queen stories exist BECAUSE the bankster finances it. The moral relativism critiques make some of you sound like complete jackasses.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:45 | 3055186 CaptainObvious
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"‘I didn’t want to miss out on my kids’ childhoods or have someone else raise them. I’m not one of those girls who gets pregnant for the benefits.’"

Yeah, suuuuuuure you're not "one of those girls".  A responsible woman, upon getting pregnant, adjusts her lavish lifestyle so that she can feed the new little mouth, and house it, and cloth it, and afford healthcare for it.  And a responsible man, upon getting a woman pregnant, adjusts his lavish lifestyle so that he can pay his support if he's not going to stay with the mother. An irresponsible douchebag, like yourself, decides it's not her job to support her own progeny...it's the job of those who have paying jobs.  A person who is a mother twice over at the tender age of 20 got pregnant for the benefits.  How do I know this?  Because a 17-year-old with no diploma can easily afford condoms, and can't even support herself, much less a child.

"The money for Christmas comes from the £250 she saves each month, which she said shows she is ‘really responsible’."

Ha!  Your definition of "really responsible" would benefit from a visit to the reference section of the library.  According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Really (adv.) - in actuality

Responsible (a.) - able to answer for one's conduct and obligations

So, according to you, you are in actuality able to answer all the obligations life has given you?  Not only no, but hell no!  If you were "really responsible", you wouldn't be on the dole, you slut.  The dole is for people who chose to abdicate their own personal responsibility.

"‘Anyone who thinks people on benefits don’t deserve nice things is talking rubbish. I work 24/7 as a mother."

Yeah?  I work 24/7 as a father.  The difference between us?  I also work 10 hours a day at a job.  I deserve nice things because I fucking well earn them.  You don't deserve nice things because you're sitting on your entitled ass sponging off the labors of those who also work 24/7 as a parent yet manage to stay employed at the same time. 

I hate people like this woman.  Makes me want to skip paying taxes for the rest of my life so I too can be irresponsible and she might have to get off her lazy ass and work a day.  Only trouble is, if I abdicate my responsibility and fail to pay my taxes, the state sends me to jail.  She gives up her responsibility, and the state throws money and food and housing at her.  What is wrong with this fucking picture?!

 

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:46 | 3057615 Cathartes Aura
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.

I hate people like this woman.

What is wrong with this fucking picture?!

 

there is nothing wrong with what you've pictured.  it's working as intended, muppet.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 08:44 | 3055191 Old Poor Richard
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It's disturbing that there are so many haters pointing their ire at wise people who follow the law and live comfortably on the dole.

It should be obvious that the problem is the dole--not the people on the dole.  Same argument for anti-immigration douches.  They oppose immigration because the immigrants come and get "free" stuff, instead of opposing the giveaway.  Or because the immigrants work for lower wages, ignoring the glaring truth that some people are overpaid thanks to economic protectionism in the form of closed borders.

The libertarian answer is the right one: get rid of welfare, hand the issue back to charity.  That way there is the local "deservedness" filtering applied and there's no one who'd RATHER be on handouts than working.  Open the borders and let the market sort it out.

At the minimum, get rid of all FEDERAL welfare and aid and let every states' voters decide how much, if any, welfare and in-kind benefits to give away. 

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:12 | 3055246 toomanyfakecons...
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I don't feel any hate or hosility toward welfare bums. Wage slavery is far more demeaning and stressful, at least in more recent times.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:29 | 3056089 maximin thrax
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It should be obvious that the problem is the dole--not the people on the dole.

No, it's obviously the people. People make the decision to have children they can neither support nor raise to be productive citizens, blame the rest for it, and express (as this woman does, if the story is real) that society owes her the means to feed her children. No, in fact she owed her children a home whose occupants have the means to raise them. A real father would have been a plus.

Same argument for anti-immigration douches.

Name one? Or are you one of those douches who conflates all imigration with ILLEGAL immigration. I'm for walling off the southern border and kicking out those who broke in. But at the same time I understand that immigration benefits this nation tremendously.

While I love your Liberterian solution, the fact is we've long since spoiled people for actually working to eat. There would be riots. Don't you know forcing someone to work to eat is slavery in this country?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:17 | 3055258 madcows
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Anyone want to bet that the daughters don't grow up the same way?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:17 | 3055262 acrabbe
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there are no white welfare queens? what percentage of the population that collects welfare is black? both in the US and UK? You'd be surprised. Blacks get wheeled out in front to serve as scapegoat whenever convenient in regards to welfare state issues. Just like the way the zionists use jews as cover for their war-crimes. Most of you claim to be aware, but you're just slightly more aware than the average sheep. Just because you a regular ZH reader doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're talking about.

It actually takes real growth and self-realization to understand and overcome the emotional landmines that have been programmed into your psyche since birth through conditioning in the matrix. Most of you still have your heads up your asses. Silver coins, guns, ammo, food, survival skills, well-versed on modern day financial voodoo, but still plumb dumb idiots who think the average black person is of lower intelligence based on inferior genetics.

easy prey for the controllers.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:52 | 3055381 wonderatitall
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really? you got that from the article? or are you so RACIST and bigoted that you infer anything as a plot by all those white people living in luxury? you are a controller. a racist hatemonger bigot....who cares what color you are...racist

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:52 | 3055665 blunderdog
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You really need to work on reading comprehension, bud.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:38 | 3055567 moonstears
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I upticked you because most of your rant is so true. My thinking is advanced enough to correct a few of false ideas, though, that you elude to. I heard a PHD female, professor (yes, she was black), on a talk show quote this same thing about "white wellfare moms get a bigger percentage", and her statistics were like "33% of benefits to black wellfare moms and 42% to white". The problem is that in the USA "black people" are approx 13% of the population, and here in the USA, "white people" approx 63%. For her numbers to pan out, black baby momma should get far less of a % of benefits like less than 5%. For the record, I'm not advocating any form of racism, and agree it's counter-productive, even stupid. We know I'll get down ticks from the racists and the folks who are of some races, but we cannot use tired, yet positively spun, false notions and ideas, to combat tired old, negatively spun, false notions and ideas. BTW, good on you for the anti PC rant. Shit needs discussing to move people forward. 

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:58 | 3055958 madcows
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Don't forget that things like social security and medicare are also included as "Welfare", so the numbers include retired white folks as well. 

No doubt, there are white welfare queens, but a disproportionate number are minorities, not just blacks.

Here's another question, what percentage of welfare queens are guys?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 04:40 | 3058630 acrabbe
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moonstears,

it's obvious that blacks take up a disproportionate share of the welfare pie based on their % of the population, yes. but that's a by-product of history. blacks are former slaves, they are still climbing out of the socio-economic squalor of slavery that lends to family cycles of broken hos leading to lack of education and unstable childhoods. This is far different from inferior genetics. No I am not making excuses for blacks, whites or any particular race. Just felt like pointing out that many people here fall for quick bait often, and a time is coming when they may have to make a critical decision if/when things go temporarily fubar and the decisions they make will have far-reaching consequnces. These emotional landmines are being planted for a reason, from the top-down. Installing a black president was STRATEGIC and as much linked to race and manipulation of collective emotions and perceptions as it was to politics and geopolitical imperial tactics.

Many here think they are shepherds when they are just sheep who are tired of taking orders from the dogs and shepherd. Taking off the wool and walking away from the herd takes alot more spirit than the ignorant bigotry/classism/sexism constantly flowing on these boards.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:55 | 3057644 Cathartes Aura
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nice rant acrabbe, sincerely.

It actually takes real growth and self-realization to understand and overcome the emotional landmines that have been programmed into your psyche since birth through conditioning in the matrix.

the notion of privilege, and who deserves which/what, is embedded in identity. . . which inevitably gets defended laterally, in me/not me, us vs them type thinking.

intentional distractions that keeps the individual held in place, powerless, fuming. . .

 

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:18 | 3055267 Pumpkin
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If the government and international bankers didn't have a rigged game in which people have to bust their asses for the pleasure of being a slave to an inflationary, unholy fiat money system, we wouldn't have this problem.  Some people are just going to jump off the rat wheel. And honestly, I'd rather them print money for this instead of endless trillions for thier bankster buddies. It is much less inflationary.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 09:45 | 3055357 QuietCorday
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I ought to point something out here.

For this woman to earn enough to get this level of income after tax, she would need to get a job that paid over £19,000 a year gross.

The average salary for a female in Britain is just about £20,000. A newly qualified teacher or nurse starts on about £21,000.

So the British government is paying this woman, more or less, the equivalent of a young graduate's salary: a salary that would require someone to get good GCSEs, good A levels, a degree and then possibly some sort of postgraduate qualification -- all of which would incur cost and loans -- and then work full-time in rather difficult and challenging circumstances with night shifts, and the possible need to run a car as well.

Again, the benefits package this woman receives is equal to the entire annual income tax payment of FIVE average earners in Britain. It takes five people to go out to work to pay for this woman: people who probably cannot afford to purchase a house or start a family until they get well into their 30s.

The other two political parties, Labour and the LibDems, do not seem to understand how utterly pissed off working people are with this sort of largesse. In some cases, unemployed people with children are getting more from the state than a typical professional graduate household. In one case, a few years ago, a unemployed family with five kids was receiving the equivalent of the take-home pay on a £63,000 salary.   

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:12 | 3055462 Mitch Comestein
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Its free, swipe your EBT!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:48 | 3055645 moonstears
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Good point Mitch, that video is a satire by a young black rapper, she's calling out LAZY people, NOT a specific race(I responded earlier here to a rant who pointed to this as a racist thing earlier and you reminded me, of the video, thx). It is funny.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:56 | 3055684 Reptil
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FAKE ARTICLE - setup by Daily Mail. C'mon Tyler, this isn't a quality source.

Poor ppl. are HURTING in the UK. Not living large.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:57 | 3057653 Cathartes Aura
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she ticks all the boxes dude - she's click-bait - works the same in DailyMailCountry as it does "here"

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:17 | 3055776 ZH11
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$25,000 = Luxury Lifestyle?

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:25 | 3055817 shovelhead
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This is just a small example why I diligently worked to structure my income to be non-taxable.

It really doesn't bother me because I don't pay for any of the Govt.'s largesse.

I keep mine, they keep theirs (yours) and I pay local taxes and fees for what I use.

Granted, it's almost impossible to do this if you're a wage slave instead of being self employed, but some of us choose the road less traveled because the risk is worth the reward.

I keep what I make and let them only steal what they can by inflation before converting fiat into real money.

I don't see the point in enabling drug addicts and then complaining that they misuse your funds.

It's what drug addicts do. Get used to it or get off their hamster wheel.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:39 | 3055881 conspicio
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This little lady needs to move to the south side of Chicago where she can collect checks in both Illinois and Indiana, claim kids as her own from multiple families to boost the pay, and preferably have a few ID's handy to keep a little money tide rolling in day after day. I mean c'mon, UK socialism is way behind the professional US grifters who have a generational leap on the fraud front here in 'Merica. Detroit, Minneapolis, Pittsburg, all the same. Fellow travellers fleecing the system. So far it only looks like Detroit is going to have a slow down in payouts. Everywhere else is party time and gettin they freak on.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:24 | 3056061 mr_T
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Corporate welfare is exponentially greater than social.. yet the hatred is much less. funny how people don't mind getting ripped off 1000x more by corporations.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:56 | 3056196 RallyRoundTheFamily
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I have the ability to hate both.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 13:16 | 3056277 _underscore
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This article was in fact an intelligence test set by ZH (yes, I'm giving the Tylers the benefit of the doubt & assuming they can do political analysis)

- and I'm sorry to tell you, 92% of respondees failed.

Without giving ZH the benefit of the doubt, perhaps the google analytics revealed not enough people were click-throughs to segment F adverts.

 

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:34 | 3057574 theprofromdover
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If the headline didn't include the word 'benefits' you might be able to praise the subject of the article as a very successful businesswoman.

She has worked out her goals, has learned to use the system, and is not wasting any opportunity to better herself and her children. She is investing in their future, and is being efficient and a positive benefit to the society she cares about.

She did not build the benefits system, and has not much influence over it; apart from an addiction to designer goods, she has not reduced her potential or her childrens'. She has taken an objective assessment of the rules of the game, and chosen 'correctly'. She has no prospect of earning the $60,000/£40,000 salary (and more with childcare costs to find, and a market-value non-subsidised home rental) she would need to maintain this lifestyle.

Until they tear up this ridiculous benefits system, how can you condemn her. You should join her and hasten the UK bankruptcy.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 01:57 | 3058532 dvfco
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That was extraordinarily well written.  In New York and the rest of the US, we tend to abhor people of this type.  But, in many ways, she is more 'hire-able' than many in the labor pool using their free gifts for useless crap.

I hate saying this, but when I lived in Baltimore for 3.5 years, I dreaded getting on line in a supermarket behind someone who ended up using 'Food Stamps'.  It always took another 1/2 hour than it could have.

 

Back to our mom of two..  She saves.  She make her children presentable.  She writes (a lot better than job applicants I've had come to my office), she cares about her children and their social circle, etc.   It's interesting. I don't think this takes place int he US.

(On a separate note, I have an 80+ year old co-worker whose father sold fruit from the back of a donkey cart and was a first generation immigrant.  They were the 1st ever to get financial aid.  They went to a warehouse where they were told to take one of hundreds of identical jackets, and pick other clothes - all identical.  They were given 6 pound blocks of cheese and other true staples.  I can see her eyes tear when she remembers inspectors coming to her house on her birthday and her parents had saved to bake her a cake.  They were immediately removed from 'the dole' because they were told, 'if you can afford cake, you don't need handouts.'  This is one of the most wonderful women on earth, and she has to live with the guilt of losing family aid because her family gave her a birthday cake.  Now, she watches new Russian immigrants in Lexus' and fur coats go into the local supermarket and buy their food with government provided credit cards.  SAD.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 23:23 | 3058294 Manic by Proxy
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Mandatory sterilization springs to mind. The biggest outrage is the absence of the worthless shithead known as the father. Taxpayers who presumably vote for the political class who mandate such abysmal policy are clearly unable to vote what is best for their culture. Stripped of the right-to-vote sounds appropriate for the criminally stupid. Jefferson was right. Douchetards worry about banksters and the 1%, but the real threat is the mass of stupidity voting for free shit. Of course, I could be wrong.

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