Jimmy Hoffa Warns Of "Civil War" As Michigan Governor Signs "Right-To-Work" Into Law

Tyler Durden's picture

Minutes before Michigan Governor Snyder signed the 'Right-To-Work' bill into law...


... Teamsters head Jimmy Hoffa appeared on CNN, as seen in the clip below, warning that:

"This is just the first round of a battle that's going to divide this state. We're going to have a civil war,"

as the bill to weaken unions' power is passed. If Hoffa is right, look for Michigan GDP to soar: after all it is one of the more Keynesian states in the union.

Via AP: Michigan Gov. Snyder signs right-to-work bills

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has signed right-to-work legislation, dealing a devastating and once-unthinkable defeat to organized labor in a state that has been a cradle of the movement for generations.


He put his signatures on the bills Tuesday, hours after the state House passed the measures as the chants of thousands of angry pro-union protesters filled the Capitol.


Snyder says a failed ballot proposal to enshrine collective bargaining rights in the constitution triggered the discussion that led to the passage and signing of right-to-work.


During a news conference, he called the protests "an exercise in democracy."

Jim Hoffa, of the International brotherhood of Teamsters explains his perspective:


Via CNN:

Jimmy Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, said Tuesday he expects Michigan unions and lawmakers to break out into "civil war" after the state legislature passed right-to-work bills that would weaken unions' power.


"This is just the first round of a battle that's going to divide this state. We're going to have a civil war," Hoffa said on CNN's "Newsroom."


The Republican-controlled state House passed two bills that had already been approved by the GOP-dominated state Senate. Gov. Rick Snyder, also a Republican, is poised to sign the bill, which would allow workers at union-represented employers to forgo paying dues.


As thousands of protestors gathered at the state capitol on Tuesday, Hoffa called the legislation a "tremendous mistake" and "a monumental decision to make" by outgoing lawmakers in a lame duck session.


"What they're doing is basically betraying democracy," he told CNN's Brooke Baldwin. "If there's any question here, let's put it on the ballot and let the people of Michigan decide what's good for Michigan."


Proponents of the legislation say it gives workers more freedom, while opponents say a less robust union presence will negatively affect workers’ rights. Hoffa also argued that those who don't pay union dues will be considered "free riders,” as they’re getting the same benefits from union representation without the cost.


Hoffa pointed to Michigan's recovering auto industry, saying the Wolverine State has bounced back from the recession without being a "right to work" state.


"This is basically a step backward," he argued.

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1100-TACTICAL-12's picture

Your right DCGhost, but this bunch milked every drop they could and it's coming to an end. " You get what you put in and people get what they deserve" (Kid Rock)


falak pema's picture

how about rocky and rambo and ronald of reagan, robert rubin and road runner to lead the pack of rascals.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Jim Hoffa and the Teamsters? Good grief...talk about a poster child of corruption.

"We're back, and thriving"? Yeah okay Jimmy, take a walk through Detroit you lying sack of shit. 


falak pema's picture

so where  is the honest piglet in the land of the brave? 

WillyGroper's picture

Why, it's Jon Corzine & the gunzablazin' SEC enforcement.

Freddie's picture

Don't forget Stevie Cohen and SAC.  He has a gold SEC Get Out of Jail card too.

Surrealist's picture

Will all fizzle down like it did in Winsconsin.

TuPhat's picture

Hoffa obviously doesn't understand representative government.  His elected reps did their job and he says it isn't right.  Michigan needed this years ago.  My wife is from Michigan.  My sister lives there.  They will tell you not to go near Detroit.  If you are driving through on the freeway and accidentally get stuck in an exit only lane, do not stop.  Even for lights if it's night time.  You could end up dead.  That's the UAW legacy. 

Everybodys All American's picture

Detroit. Take a look at Chicago, Newark, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Philadelphia, etc. The common thread is they have been democratically led for decades. These large deficits and entitlement spending have now put all of these cities on there own fiscal cliffs.

Anusocracy's picture

Hunter-gatherer economics don't work.

Flakmeister's picture

Check out the Haida....a minarchist's wet dream...

quasimodo's picture

Judging from the down arrows we have some union panties amongst the crowd

The Gooch's picture

What's in a name?

edit: Oh yeah, "Jesse Sharkey"

HaroldWang's picture

Part of the "behind the doors" bits of fiscal cliff compromise happening right before your eyes. 

AldoHux_IV's picture

This is our economy today: one behemoth of an flawed institution fighting another behemoth of a flawed institution all the while everyone loses.

Politicians and labor unions pointing to a recovering auto industry. ZH pointing to channel stuffing.  Data points and trade pointing to slowing demand. Anybody with half a brain pointing to the fact that bailouts and crony capitalism have wrecked this country and the longer we fool ourselves the more we'll see people fighting over the last scraps with no real solution in sight.


NidStyles's picture

We are not fooling ourselves, if we were we wouldn't be here.


I hate to be the one to point it out, but listen to Jimmy speaking, that is the mean level of intelligence in the country right now. They are not fooling anyone, they are just convinced that they are correct. Trust me, I run into this daily, and I don't mind it anymore. It makes easier to just stay drunk and they are none the wiser.


No need to be so down about things out of your control. Cheer up have a drink, go on vacation and enjoy life, it's too short to worry about a bunch of people that won't listen. Just stick to those that are like you and keep working and sharing with those that ask questions or show interest.

falak pema's picture

you mean Boehner is right; or Koch Bros, or is it big Ben?

Who is right on the button in USA? 

Anyone flying that plane?

NidStyles's picture

None of the above.


Dude, check the avatar, get back to me after you read some Rothbard or Mises. Then you might be close to some of the rest of us. Yes, I have noticed your violent statist rants on here before.

falak pema's picture

Mises, holy cow, nothing violent there and its balanced in my opinion. Ok, when hopium comes to the US give me a ring. 

SO mises is going to fly the kite when the land of libertarians get their act together. All hail the new leader. 

ceilidh_trail's picture

So how are things in france? It appears that you guys are sliding down the tube ahead of us.

Freddie's picture

Well some of the French youth are starting to stand up to the Islamists.   We just put em in the white hut and let their hollywood lackeys talk about killin whitey.

NidStyles's picture

You probably should have read his work, you might actually understand how ridiculous your commentary sounds to us then.

Jerome Lester Horwitz's picture

He is probably in a union. Reading is not in his job description. That said he would probably seek out the Cliff Notes version anyways!

Central Bankster's picture



ZH has really drawn out the trolls because it is the last bastion of truth and free speech.  Every other financial/news website (including the comment sections) is over run by both left wing and right wing fascists.  They are committed to their causes of controlling people and destroying the wealth creation process, brought about by individual and economic freedom.  They are truly low life scum and I couldn't agree more with your comments.  Have a drink, do the things you love, and people of like mind will join you and love you in return.  These trolls are to be ignored, and when the time comes that they threaten our life and liberty, then we should remember to not hesitate to protect ourselves and the ones we love.

lakecity55's picture

We made a big mistake in allowing any public-service group to form unions.

All of us have been asleep at the switch to one degree or another.

ZH is a wake-up call.

If USA persons won't demand rule of law, we are screwed.

Flakmeister's picture

Empty platitudes do not form the basis of a functioning political economy thus it would seem that you are the one lacking in a proper education in that regard...

NidStyles's picture

Political Economy? More nonsense.


My Education is pretty good actually. I have two Bachelors and a Master's in Economics. I also have many years of slinging bullets in the military. What is your education in? 

Flakmeister's picture

Ph.D.,  M.Sc., B.Sc.... Physics: + close to 5 years on Wall street after many years of pure research...

falak pema's picture

debate aint about spouting libertarian dogma, like it was Godlike and evident truism bestowed on man by new Moses of Mises.

Just to give you an historical example of a truly sincere, intelligent but dogmatic man who got caught in his own spider's web of dogmatic thought : Thomas of Aquinas.

He decreed in the debate between Enquiry and Dogma that enraged the middle ages : that for those who believed in God no proof of his existence was required and for those who did not no proof was acceptable. Thus debate over.

The whole thread of humanity subsequently proved that thesis wrong. Dogma gave way to the process of rational enquiry based on empirical fact as the vital thread of human progress.

So CB when you say others "troll" 'cos they don't agree with your version of new libertarian dogma, you just repeat Saint Thomas of Aquinas. 

I prefer to adhere to the whole process of agnostic enquiry; where empiricism and fact and logic define what works and what doesn't work in society. 


So if that is the verdict of history, no witch doctor like Mises is going to solve humanity's problems. It'll take "belling the cat" in the name of people and democracy, AND THAT, is not on the libertarian page of values.

You guys ONLY knee jerk in terms of "ME FIRST". And that creates no social cohesion, just dissension. 



So that is the final destination of the libertarians : Caesar's rule.

No libertarian has ever here on ZH presented a political program that is viable as a social model and a grass roots based power construct. Its ALL theory and mumbo jumbo. Ron Paul worship. And look where that leads.

Second American revolution? It'll take more than words! 

Now you can call me troll! Brother fool. 

surf0766's picture

Excellent postings today. 

NidStyles's picture

I'm sober today. It's miserable to be honest.

BurningFuld's picture

Drinking is bad for your health. Eventually your health will fail and you will become a burden on society trying to maintain your cirrhotic body. The borg says stop it.

NidStyles's picture

I made over $***K last year. The Borg and the rest of the so called Americans can go suck a ****. At Least the Borg was honest about what they were doing.


I would rather die than let those people determine the nature of my health or it's condition.

Jerome Lester Horwitz's picture

I tip my glass of the Macallan to you in tribute and hearty agreement!

Freddie's picture

What is sad is these evil ****ers are constantly beating us down and robbing us.  They are evil.  Hopefully their time is coming.  Hang in there. 

XitSam's picture

I don't often drink but I'll drink to that. Screw the nanny statists! Cheers!

WillyGroper's picture

Cronies in both corporate & when the unions were broken/& sold out during Bonzo's reign. 

It never ceases for all of the pissing & moaning about crony capitalism, you lednbrass parrots revel with rabid glee at financial opression while espousing your gun rights. More divide & conquer, while the engineers of this mess continue to legislate financial terrorism & fail to enforce any semblance of laws on the books. 

NO, I don't agree w/Hoffa. Yes, I WAS a union member until they sold out. Burned my card in 1981. Yes, I could not believe a retired teacher in NJ received $100K per year pension. True, I looked it up. The SS line was bullshit. This mess is not sustainable & it's about time the thieves at the top took it up the financial a$$!

Meanwhile, pay attention to the pop-ups on this sight with Hitllary & UN gun control. It's comin. Hang together, or hang seperately. 

Where's Corzine?

Coldsun's picture

The only things Unions don't like is competition. Why not let multiplte unions compete for the workers rights? All of sudden the workers would get more and the unions less. Regardless, unions should not be in the public sector because they hold services paid for by the taxpayers hostage. That simple.

lolmao500's picture

The unions compete with the government for your wage money. Well they are more of a team... and now the Michigan government backstabbed the Michigan unions in the back and they are pissed.

Freddie's picture

Didn't that happen once? Wasn't there a competing union to the Teamsters ort another union?  I thought it turned into a violent turf war too.  It was then settled.  They are like crime families like the Gambinos and Bonnanos - literally.  They have meetings to settle issues and decide who gets to shake down whom. 

They are evil SCUM.

Getting Old Sucks's picture

Didn't even read this but if he said what the headline said, GOODBYE,  SAY HELLO TO YOUR FATHER!

surf0766's picture

Fire them all now !  If it goes to court tell them contract law was broken when the bond holders of GM were screwed.

A Lunatic's picture

Speaking of entitlement junkies............

Everybodys All American's picture

How ironic these guys asked for an Obama presidency and now his economic policies are leading to their demise.

lolmao500's picture

Don't try pointing that out to them, their heads will explode.

WillyGroper's picture

Not defending the BigO, but this as in WI was a right wing agenda. How is this his policy?