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4th Amendment Over: Public Buses Adding Microphones To Record Conversations

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Via Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Believe it or not the article itself is actually a lot worse than even the title implies.  These microphones are in many cases being coupled with cameras in order to gain an even greater level of surveillance.  All with grants from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).  Now honestly, does anyone really think this is for Al Qaeda?  This is a great follow up to my piece from last week titled:  Coming to Your Car: Mandatory Black Boxes That Record Everything.

From Wired:

Transit authorities in cities across the country are quietly installing microphone-enabled surveillance systems on public buses that would give them the ability to record and store private conversations, according to documents obtained by a news outlet.

 

The systems are being installed in San Francisco, Baltimore, and other cities with funding from the Department of Homeland Security in some cases, according to the Daily, which obtained copies of contracts, procurement requests, specs and other documents.

 

The systems use cables or WiFi to pair audio conversations with camera images in order to produce synchronous recordings. Audio and video can be monitored in real-time.

 

In Eugene, Oregon, the Daily found, transit officials requested microphones that would be capable of “distilling clear conversations from the background noise of other voices, wind, traffic, windshields wipers and engines” and also wanted at least five audio channels spread across each bus that would be “paired with one or more camera images and recorded synchronously with the video for simultaneous playback.”

The 4th Amendment is dead.  I repeat, the terrorists won.

 

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Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:38 | 3059410 saturn
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Soon there will be so quiet in your home :)))

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:42 | 3059429 doomandbloom
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"Hush little baby, dont say a word.

And never mind that noise you heard..

Its just the microphones under your bed..

In your closet and in your head!!..."

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:58 | 3059811 TruthInSunshine
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The future, bitchez:

Spider Robots
Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:40 | 3059423 john39
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too late...  TV's, DVR's, computers, smart phones...  all have cameras now, with the ability to send information back out to the internet...  but they would never do that, right?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:43 | 3059443 Inthemix96
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Xbox kinect as well john.

That fucking thing captures you in realtime HD, or so I am informed.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:51 | 3059492 Slewburger
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Brother in law has one. Creeped me the fuck out. I'll never knowingly have that technology in my house.

No cable box here either.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:10 | 3059575 centerline
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I bought one for my kids about a year ago. It really made me feel uncomfortable - that little eyeball just sitting there in the living room aimed at everyone.  Had to unplug it.

It captures real time movement and can even identify people.  Includes a microphone as well.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:29 | 3060147 WillyGroper
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a little electrical tape over the cam should do ya. that's what we did to corporate.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:15 | 3059621 Magnix
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Imagine the deaf family at home? Its a bad news for the govt! lol

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:55 | 3060054 zerozulu
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Look at the bright side. In case of fire at your home you need not to call 911. Just say "FIRE".

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:39 | 3059408 Ralph Spoilsport
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We're all bozos on this bus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uMzALKgHI

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:39 | 3059409 Magnix
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Im glad Im deaf, they will not understand our sign language - lol

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:27 | 3059691 Frank N. Beans
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except for the middle finger

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:43 | 3060007 NotApplicable
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I'm sure some dogooder somewhere is working on translation software so that deaf people can use sign language to communicate with people who don't know it.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:38 | 3059411 Dr. Richard Head
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I remember the republican side of the population used to defend Bush's Patriot Act by retorting "if you have nothing to hide".  The democrat side of the population simply ignores the encroachment of the NDAA, TSA, and now this. 

THOSE FUCKING TERRORISTS HATE US FOR OUR LOST FREEDOM?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:40 | 3059422 resurger
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Please welcome project:

 "Dumbo"

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:47 | 3059462 trollin4sukrz
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If anyone would use their brains on this one it is plain to see what the end result is. The FBI stats prove it as well. The cameras and all are to keep the fucking niggers in line and under surveillance because they are a bunch of Neanderthal animals.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:36 | 3060173 Things that go bump
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We're all niggers now asshole.  Get used to it.  

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:41 | 3059425 el Gallinazo
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"The 4th Amendment is dead.  I repeat, the terrorists won."

 

What terrorists are those, Mike?  You mean the al Queda arm of the CIA?  Just look to Libya and Syria, if not 1980's Afghanistan,  to know their true relationship.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:57 | 3059516 GMadScientist
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Man injured by his own abused pitbull; film at 11.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:46 | 3059426 LouisDega
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I bet my left nut that this post will be highlighted

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:41 | 3059432 Lost Wages
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Throw your cellphone in the river.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:42 | 3059434 Inthemix96
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You lot ever heard of expanding foam filler?

Fucking marvelous stuff believe me, has more uses than a swiss army knife, if you know what I mean

;-)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:49 | 3059475 john39
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rumor has it that wasp spray has a good effect on cameras...   and can hit from a safe distance...    if the population got really motivated... it would not take long to tear orwellien spy system to pieces.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:56 | 3059509 The Gooch
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three oh eight

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:57 | 3059517 Inthemix96
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Aye john, an old bloke I know told me about wasp spray, but a lad I know was pissed off for getting three points and a 60 quid fine for going 2 miles an hour over the limit in a thirty zone he expanded the mind of the speed camera that got him.

It fucks everything it touches expanding foam filler, a bit like bankers and politicians......

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:43 | 3059437 alien-IQ
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from inside the casket of George Orwell can be heard a muffle scream of "I TOLD YOU!!!!"

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:54 | 3059499 resurger
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lol

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:44 | 3059442 PaperBear
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I would be sure to be heard by every one of these devices saying as many of things that makes the war on terror a fraud.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:44 | 3059445 jayman21
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Please tell me who these terrorists are?  There seems to be one behind every bush.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:49 | 3059465 Cognitive Dissonance
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At last count there were over 300 million and rising.

<That's a lot of bushes.>

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:27 | 3060142 jayman21
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"At last count"...Another click, another laugh.   +100

 

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:54 | 3059500 GMadScientist
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Plant a tree for Israel...

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:28 | 3059692 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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U mean every George Bush.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:45 | 3059451 Fezter
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You are the next star of "Bus Riders Gone Wild"

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:45 | 3059453 WoodMizer
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Relax, It's just so we can catch the banksters and Politicians plotting to take our wealth and freedom.  We all know they use public transportation for anonymity.

We are doing it for the kids.

Sincerely,

Big Sis

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:46 | 3059457 AgShaman
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The slaves will not notice they are being "watched"

Blissfully trudging thru life, unaware of their captured existence

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:47 | 3059461 youngman
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This creates jobs...people have to build this crap..install this crap..monitor this crap...make decisions on this crap...act on this crap..have meetings and an annual event in like Las Vegas so they can improve this crap.....voila..lots of new government jobs...

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:47 | 3059463 SheepDog-One
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'WE here in Clowngress will NOT ALLOW Al-CIAda terrorists to threaten americas liberties and freedoms! No, instead WE will be taking your freedoms, you damned FOOLS!'

<:D

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:50 | 3059477 Debtless
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50% of the people can have jobs spying on the other half. Then they switch. Unemployment solved.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:53 | 3059494 GMadScientist
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Um...unemployment unchanged.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:27 | 3059689 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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That still gives U 50% funemployment.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:04 | 3060081 zerozulu
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That's what China and Russia used to be. But We want to be #1 of everything anyway.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:52 | 3059483 Chump
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What am I missing here?  You're in public, on a public bus.  What reasonable expectation of privacy do you have?  Is it the fact that the words you speak can be saved for later analysis or what?

Stuff like this pales in comparison to the level of law enforcement intrusion into, for example, your cell phone text messages or bank account statements.  Those are actual, private records, supposedly.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:30 | 3059707 Forgiven
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"Stuff like this pales in comparison to the level of law enforcement intrusion into, for example, your cell phone text messages or bank account statements.  Those are actual, private records, supposedly."

Quite a few assumptions there Chump.  COINTELPRO, ECHELON, PATRIOT Act, etc all from an 'honest' government.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:39 | 3059755 Chump
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Yeah that was the point of the added "supposedly."

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:52 | 3059485 GMadScientist
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Yeah, they're really concentrating on the big fish with the bus sting.

LOL

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:51 | 3059490 Lendo
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Screw you, Janet.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:52 | 3059495 GMadScientist
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Fuck you, Brad.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:54 | 3059501 Inthemix96
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One of these days someone is going to flip.  People can only take so much before they lose it completely and I look forward to the day I look on the local news and find someone so fucked off, who has lost his shitty minimum wage job and decided that a politician, or even better, a fucking banker deserves a claw hammer in the side of his head.

It will happen folks.  Over in Ireland the Loyalists are up in arms over the flag and have threatened the life of a party member there over a fucking FLAG.....

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:55 | 3059507 GMadScientist
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P2Xwej_xjM

"She caught the bus at 5:06, that's in the AM, for all you little trust fund kids."

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:55 | 3059508 cherry picker
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Ironic isn't it because we are the ones paying to enslave ourselves.  Not me, I move out some time ago to a country which is still free for the commoner.  There are some countries out there that are no so paaranoid and controlling..

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:56 | 3059513 trollin4sukrz
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Hey, if the fucin niggerz would take responsibility for their violent off spring and quit shooting the shit outa each other, maybe we could have a little more freedom in this shithole. BUT NOOOOO the stuipd braindead dumbasses kill each other in fvkin piles and we all pay for it one way past sunday.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:48 | 3060234 GMadScientist
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you ain't even paid for your hood.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 15:14 | 3060364 tickhound
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"But NOOOOO the stuipid? braindead dumbasses kill each other in fvkin piles..."

Funny, I thought you'd appreciate that.  The usual mantra reads....,

"AT LEAST the stupid braindead dumbasses kill each other in fvkin piles..."

Why alienate your support?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:57 | 3059520 williambanzai7
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I think they have been watching Japanese public transportation porn.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:59 | 3059523 Darth Mul
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The terrorists?

 

The terrorists didn't win - they had nothing to do with it.

 

Who won was Dick Cheney, and the Zionist Neocon cabal in the Office of Special Plans.  Who won was Ehud Barak and Bibi Netanyahu.  Who won was the ADL and AIPAC and every piece of shit dually loyal cocksucking chickenshit fucking pussy asshole who would never pick up a rifle to fight for this country, but would spend all day posting comments online urging American goyim to clear the sandbox around 'Eretz Israel'.

 

Joe Lieberman won.

 

Mike Chertoff won.

 

ZIONISM WON.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7EjNDj97do

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6LdB24-wU

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:00 | 3059531 rsnoble
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From previous readings on ZH im thinking 'the terrorists won' was a sarcastic comment.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:38 | 3060187 Darth Mul
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not sarcastic - simply verboden:

 

http://www.daatemet.org/articles/article.cfm?article_id=119&lang=en

 

How much proof do people need that hyperethnocentric Zionists really, really are a criminal conspiracy bent on world domination via utility of American Christian blood and treasure?

 

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:59 | 3059524 rsnoble
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When the shtf in it's entirety these stupid fucking cameras won't be of much use.  Shits going down and the elite are scared as fuck.  This is what you call trickle down security.  Kinda like my water dept that is in a ultra small rural town that recently installed bullet proof glass for the secratary to sit behind.  The government is the most important thing for the elites and they are doing every thing they can to protect it.  Like I said, when all of humankinds evil ways finally manifests and boils over none of this will matter, no one is safe. Not even the elite.

$100 cash for the first one of you that sits directly in front of one of these and pulls your cock out and jerks off while flipping the camera off.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:08 | 3059566 rsnoble
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Basically our psychopathic overlords are in full survival mode which should be some sort of indication of what's to come.

I don't normally mention this but I am a non-vilolent(for now) proven on paper psychopath myself which is how I come up with some of my ideas. Most people here already know the gov't is say one thing but do something other, but I would venture to guess few know how fucked up some of the ideas really are.  Amazing what little recognition previous acts of the US government in decades past that have been made public knowledge actually receive.  People actually think those were bad times and we have advanced as a society.   Boy are you in for a surprise.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:16 | 3059608 semperfi
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The "elite" will be no match for those who have the tools and motivation to take them to the woodshed for a good whuppin.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:20 | 3059656 rsnoble
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I agree.  No amount of security can protect someone for a really 'focused' individual.  Not in this society, and the system is far too near collapse to develope this worthless endeavor to almost a full proof level.  These are basically 'comforting' measures for some stupid assholes that think they are better than everyone else.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:41 | 3060197 Darth Mul
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When the SEALS kept acting like good little boys after the CIA shot down the transpo copter full of their brothers, I knew it was over.

 

Let's hope that RANGERS LEAD THE WAY.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:23 | 3059669 Forgiven
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"$100 cash for the first one of you that sits directly in front of one of these and pulls your cock out and jerks off while flipping the camera off."

Did it yesterday.  Pay up sucker!  Send the cash to: Office of the President, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC 20500

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:20 | 3059929 dark_matter
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Hey man, I saw you on youtube, except you were in the Rose Garden giving a speech, but other than that it was pretty much the same thing. You looked great.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:17 | 3060117 Bastiat
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That was pretty much OK on the street in San Francisco up to a couple weeks ago -- not sure about the buses.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:00 | 3059525 dolph9
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It's more than just legal arguments over matters of privacy and such and such.

Think about it...somebody actually came up with this, and some more people decided to implement it.

Now, who but a sadist would do this?  What good can possibly come of it?

The mere fact that this is EVEN CONSIDERED IN THE FIRST PLACE, legal matters aside, tells you everything you need to know about modern Amerika.

Verily I tell you...they will not stop until they are monitoring everything you are doing, and until they have sucked every last ounce of life from you.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:01 | 3059536 trollin4sukrz
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The German brownshirts wet dream.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:52 | 3060250 GMadScientist
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I'll give you 10:1 this was motivated by a lawyer after consulting with them to determine how to limit losses from settlements with the city's denizens.

Don't like it? Stop aiding and abetting the world's most litigious society with payouts to stupid plaintiffs.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:04 | 3059527 Fire Cat
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Disconnect. Disengage. Disappear.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:08 | 3059569 john39
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it won't work for long...  this system is going world-wide rapidly.  they will force you to conform.  running is no longer a viable option.  time to stand up.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:36 | 3059598 Fire Cat
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And likely soon we'll all need to buy annual licenses *and "insurance"* for each gun we own. And those who can't afford it will lose their firearm or go to prison. And taxes on bullets will exceed those on cigarettes... Slowly, the masses will be disarmed until everyone must rely on the government and cannot resist. THEN, we'll finally have UTOPIA!!! /sarc (how does this sarcasm-thing work again? Sorry,I'm new to posting)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:50 | 3059810 Almost Solvent
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I hope that the fossil fuel depletion of easily (cheap) extracted liquid oil (not NG) goes parabolic shortly and puts an end to this whole global bullshit.

Hard to power an airplane with LNG vs. jet fuel. Hard to power global commerce with LNG vs. diesel. Hard to power millions of vehicles worldwide with LNG vs. gasoline.  

Let's get back to the good old pre-cheap oil days and watch these global fuckers rot back into the ground!

Local Local Local can't get (back)here fast enough. (I am not saying Mad-Max type shit, just a return to the days it took weeks to get from Russia to DC in person. The internets and LNG will keep the lights on, but quick fast transport will be a thing of history books)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:53 | 3060259 GMadScientist
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Discombobulate. Dissociate. Disintermediate.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:04 | 3059546 beaglebog
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Buuuuut, you can choose not to ride .... or you could use the opportunity to spread misinformation ... or ride in silence.  

 

Imagine if you had a whispered conversation ... it'd drive 'em mad with frustration.

 

Alternatively, you could just accept it, like most people assuredly will.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:14 | 3059904 dark_matter
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Stream re-runs of The Red Green Show to your smartphone and put that near the mic. That'll blow their minds.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:08 | 3059568 licutis
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I live in small town midwest and recently rode the bus for the first time in 20 years and was quite suprised to see the thing was full of cameras. 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:10 | 3059582 trollin4sukrz
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Uniform Crime Reports, FBI Communication’s Division, 304-625-4995.

They state emphatically that the Judicial System is not biased against minorities.

 

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

 

Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

 

Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

 

It about time we play Cowboy and Nigger. You violent blackassed mutherfukers are pissin off whitey and WE wrote the book on mass murder ya fuckwits.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:32 | 3059965 marcusfenix
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and you believe the F.B.I? why?

the same group that has been caught instigating, organizing and executing every single domestic terrorist incident for the last 50 years...

they are the gatekeepers for the status quot and nothing works better for their purpose than divide and conquer, a concept to which you still seem to be unable to grasp.

I think you might be one of the sheep here. 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:56 | 3060060 trollin4sukrz
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Normally no I dont believe them, but I have first hand account on this subject from doing loads of research.  Here is what I found: 

 

With 12% of the U.S. population black and about 50% of the prison population black, as a nation the U.S. has a 4.1 ratio. 

 

Care to argue this point?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:20 | 3060123 marcusfenix
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once again, stats, esp. govt stats are suspect at best. do you buy the BLS reports that unemployment is really under 8%? or that the weekly phone survey, seasonaly adjusted, new claims system is any where near accurate when tracking unemployment? do you honestly think that any number, print or report that comes from those paracites, liars and psychopaths in DC is anything less than twisted, social enginering propaganda?

do you simply choose which ones to believe because they fit your world view?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:11 | 3059586 Madcow
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if its safety they're after - then they should force bankers to wear ankle-braceletes - like sex offenders - to alert the public to their proximity. 

 

if respect-via-perceived-insanity-and-instability is what they're after - then here's a new idea:  make it a crime to take a bath without piranha in the tub. that would really cause people to fear the state has totally lost its marbles - and is capable of causing mayhem beyond imagination. 

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:14 | 3059597 Catullus
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So there's wifi capable of recording both audio and video synced for 5 different locations on a bus that can be monitored in real time? And you're going to deploy this in buses all throughout a city?

You can't even get text messages out when at a football game. This is bullshit.

They're not monitoring you in real time. They're completely full of shit

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:14 | 3059606 IridiumRebel
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If you whisper, YOU MAY BE A TERRORIST.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:15 | 3059622 semperfi
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how about if you call for "civil war", or "for blood" ?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:27 | 3059690 IridiumRebel
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Or if things are stringed but unrelated.

 

"John, you must remain civil. War is sometimes necessary." 

 

BOOM! TERRORIST! Call the jackboots........

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:16 | 3059636 Forgiven
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Nothing a little civil disobedience can't defeat.  Simply tear the f@#King thing down.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:21 | 3059664 trollin4sukrz
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To all you asswipe PC POS sheeple that down arrow me when I POST PROOF of the violent fvkin niggerz, WELL FUCK YOU TOO! CUM GET SUM YA limp wristed Vegan wimp.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:30 | 3059704 IridiumRebel
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You minimize your ability to be effective by using such slurs. If you are trying to make a point, drop the slurs. 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:34 | 3059733 trollin4sukrz
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Fukyou dickhead

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:08 | 3059858 IridiumRebel
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Ok, gloves are off.

 

How the fuck can even try to post sentient material when your inbred racially slurred posts are not only racist, but void of intelligence via spelling and basic grammar that my dog could craft with greater poise. I apologize for your non-existent daddy and the fuckhead who "stepped in" to raise you while loading you up psychologically with racial misgivings. Did he beat you? The good news is that his psychological fuck has lasted long after his departure from your life probably from alcoholism and other undiagnosed issues of psychology that he has vicariously passed on to you. We are all here for intelligent thought packaged with wit and information. You make those who are entering here for the first time want to leave because they see your fuckheaded post and think we all are of your lesser "intelligence". Please leave. You actually probably had some good stuff, but who wants to touch your post when you are peppering it with such stupidity. You sound stupid so thus your post has been rendered stupid. Go load up some porn and bust a load on your 6 year old Dell tower computer after it takes 20 minutes to turn on and load up that one scene you love so much. Lurn tu spehl, Dooshbagg.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:24 | 3059945 trollin4sukrz
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 "6 year old Dell tower computer after it takes 20 minutes to turn on and load up"

 

Dont ya just hate that fucking Vista? 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:38 | 3059988 trollin4sukrz
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Maybe this is the problem? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOSNI7l0bQ

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:50 | 3059800 CrockettAlmanac.com
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To all you asswipe PC POS sheeple that down arrow me when I POST PROOF of the violent fvkin niggerz, WELL FUCK YOU TOO! CUM GET SUM YA limp wristed Vegan wimp.

 

Shut up, nigger.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:19 | 3059923 trollin4sukrz
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wellllll... is it you dont want to face reality or is it you are a fvkin idiot? Look around... Detroit is a fine example what happens to society when one leaves the decisions up to the niggerz. When the niggerz get to a 10% saturation rate, crime forces whitey out and the place turns into a free fire zone third world crime ridden shithole. But of course you attack the messenger.. brilliant.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:53 | 3060046 CrockettAlmanac.com
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wellllll... is it you dont want to face reality or is it you are a fvkin idiot? Look around... Detroit is a fine example what happens to society when one leaves the decisions up to the niggerz

 

No, it's that you are a fucking nigger and you need to shut up.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:59 | 3060069 trollin4sukrz
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Are you sure you are not an idiot? You know, walks like a duck and quacks like one? That kind of thing?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:22 | 3060131 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You know, walks like a duck and quacks like one? That kind of thing?

 

Yeah, that's how I know you're a nigger.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:03 | 3060077 trollin4sukrz
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Detroit was once called the "Paris of America".

And then the white people left.... and the rest is history.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:30 | 3060149 Tuco Benedicto ...
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And which government entity do you work for Mr. Provocateur?!  Geez, you one trick ponies are so obvious it's damn near embarrassing!  Divide and conquer, blah, blah, blah!

Tuco

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:28 | 3059693 Bansters-in-my-...
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I wouuld not say"the terrorist won"

 

I would say "the terrorist are in charge"

 

The Goverment is NOT your friend.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:32 | 3059722 trollin4sukrz
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The Gov is doing what all Govs do and that is cya. They know what the out come is going to be when 200 million heavily armed pissed off mutherfvkers finally decide who the real enemy is.. Better throw the badges in the trash and hope noone ever finds out who you work for.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:37 | 3059746 blunderdog
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The 4th Amendment doesn't mean your PUBLIC BEHAVIOR CANNOT BE RECORDED.

This is a shitty idea and everything, but not because it's a Constitutional violation.  It's a shitty idea because it's a huge waste of money and opens the door for a great deal of corruption on the part of "law enforcement."

Unreasonable searches of possessions and homes and papers have nothing to do with an individual demanding that people pretend his activities in a public place can't be observed.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 18:11 | 3060993 falak pema
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this is in essence executive regulatory capture outside the arms of legislators and judiciary. 

If the  judiciary said it bent 4th, then it would have to make a legal case on it.

If the legislature said we don't agree with that interpretation of exisiting law they could have executive order repealed.

But there is no real separation of powers, that's for sure! 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 19:47 | 3061218 blunderdog
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You can't really "repeal" Executive orders.  You can declare them illegal, but you can't prevent the preznit from doing whatever he wants.

Well, unless you impeach.  But impeachment is mostly off the table these days.

It might appear to be motivated by partisanship.

Heh.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:39 | 3059758 sosoome
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This only occurs due to Federal funding.

Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, and this shit will stop dead in it's tracks.

But that won't happen because every State is hell bent on "getting their share" of the pie.

It is our fault for not stopping the insane money-go-round.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:47 | 3059793 trollin4sukrz
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"It is our fault for not stopping the insane money-go-round."

 

And pray tell exactly how in hades does one stop it? Easy to point fingers.. wtf is the answer?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:57 | 3059832 dark_matter
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There is no Dana, only Zuul.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:05 | 3059867 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Danny's not here, Mrs. Torrance.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:54 | 3060272 GMadScientist
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Campaign finance reform -> More political parties -> Better representation -> Better governance

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:40 | 3059766 phoolish
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Everyone needs to find a way to put the word bomb into every post they make and every sentance they speak.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:21 | 3059878 edifice
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Though this would be the bomb, you won't overwhelm the supercomputers. They have miles and miles of them, underground, in various parts of the country. Because they are underground, in bomb shelters, they're impervious to a bomb attack.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:53 | 3059826 Montezuma
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So? What else is new? Drones? It all started with CCTV and people going along with it because they were scared of terrorists (See London&IRA), but once the systems are there they are never coming down. No no, popo and FBI see that "Damn we could get all the criminals like this" and dumb fucks are sold with the idea "Dont worry as long as you are not a criminal, you dont have anything to worry about". Well lets take this "scifi" little farther. Lets say you have total surveillance society, that collects your minor speeding to your jaywalking etc.. this is made in to profile that would be used against you if ever needed to put you in to a private prison of course (and nobody can of course hack this system, right? RIGHT?)

Dont believe it? Well who would have thought drones flying in US skies spying people? Or NSA screening every email?

The SKYNET thing is litte bit farther, since sentient AI is really really hard to create, but surveillance system will eventually be automated, you know, to save money :)

 

In all this I am still wondering... where is my manned mission to Mars?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:04 | 3059866 CoolBeans
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Could it be that they've received some "intelligence" that bus attacks/bombings are in our near future?

More likely:  They are starting small - when you chip away at civil liberties a little at a time, the general public is less likely to notice.  They've started with buses, next it'll be malls, then it'll be....Before we know it, cameras and mics will be part of our everyday life and there will be no escape.

While I realize that in a public place I should have no expectation of privacy, I am disturbed by the gubbermint's need to spy on people doing everyday things.  I would imagine that data collection will then be used to build files and from there we emerge into the society as seen in "Minority Report".

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:06 | 3059869 edifice
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So much more convenient than in Nazi Germany, where they had to send Gestapo to ride in the bus with you. Now, Gestapo can sit in an airconditioned room and survail the unwashed masses.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:23 | 3059939 One World Mafia
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Great way to catch a potential whistle blower.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:36 | 3059980 roadhazard
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Taking our freedoms to save or freedoms. Yes, the terrorists have won and they are our Government.

 

Stare into their cameras, shoot them the bird and don't say a word.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:56 | 3060057 SubjectivObject
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Tape?  Paint?  Foam?  Used chewing gum? 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:00 | 3060066 drivenZ
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Not that this isn't completely absurd but has anyone ridden a public bus lately? I've never heard a conversation worth recording. 

 

who are all these people having super important conversations on buses in fucking Eugene Oregon? you've got to be kidding me.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:59 | 3060070 gnomon
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Don't forget that there are cameras watching cameras watching cameras.  It is for you to figure out which one is the primary watcher so that you can disable that one first.

Oops, is that a drone overhead?

One fine thing about financial collapse and the loss of our reserve currency is that they won't be able to afford all of this crap.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:01 | 3060075 Shizzmoney
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The MBTA, who just raised fares on Boston and MA riders by more than 22% in some cases, plans to install 400+ cameras on buses and at transit station across the state after recieving $40mil+ from the DHS. 

The funding also helps pay for the random bag checks that the Transit Police and TSA do at Train Stations (Union must love those OT shifts!).

It's a forced spending on resources that could be used to actually HELP the public, not try to protect it from a invisible boogey man.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:06 | 3060085 marcusfenix
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ok, so from now on whenever I get on a bus I'm going to sit as close to the mic/cam as I can, fold my hands and say a little prayer...

"dear God, Ali, Budda, Zues, Ra or Satan, whoever gets this request first,

or perhaps to be more to the point...

To whom it may concern,

please send earthquakes, fires, plagues, tornadoes, drought, blizzards, alien blood acid rain and billions of locust to Washington DC, esp. the cap hill and white house areas.

and if it wouldn't be to much trouble, a rain of large meteors to fall from the sky and crash right through the west wing...

or if that is unable to be achieved due to scheduling issues, simply provide me with a functioning tactical nuclear device and I will take it from there.

Amen.

America land of the free...free 24/7 big brother is watching you while boot stomping your face and stealing your money Obama phones. brought to you by the terrorists, err... I mean federal government.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:22 | 3060129 Tuco Benedicto ...
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"the terrorists won"

Yes, DHS, CIA, FBI, NSA....... and all the other globists (former Americans) are winning, but ultimately they will not win!

Tuco

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:23 | 3060135 hannah
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THERE ARENT ANY TERRORIST...!!!!! FUCKING GET OVER THAT....the gov created a boogeyman to do this...the terrorist didnt win the gov won....

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:43 | 3060204 KCMLO
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I guess DHS has decided to go after the "low-hanging fruit" of America's poor?  Aside from ultra-dense areas like the Northeast, you aren't usually getting too many middle class folks on the bus these days.  I try to use the light rail in my city when possible but it's pretty shitty considering it will only access very specific things.  And the folks on there are a step up in income from the folks that use the bus because they HAVE to.  What kind of crimes will they be committing?  Drug offenses?  Huge waste of money indeed and absolutely no one could believe this has anything to do with terrorism.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:52 | 3060252 Billy Shears
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You mean, the CIA won. There I fixed it.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:53 | 3060263 Sandmann
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and to think Nixon had the Oval Office wired because he didn't trust Henry Kissinger !  Soon the US won't need TV scriptwriters they will simply broadcast what the other half of the population is doing so the 47% couch potatoes claiming Federal funds can watch the travellers

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:53 | 3060264 Joebloinvestor
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Now is the time to bring back all American Indian languages.

CODETALKERS Rev2.0 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:55 | 3060271 AnAnonymous
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Another wonderful 'american' article.

What is the point? The death of the 4th amendment? How?

As usual, 'americans' hide behind their convenient public/private dichotomy, with the often suppressed conclusion: public tyranny is unbearable, only private tyranny should be.

Best thing is that the referenced article quotes it partially: the black boxes story in cars is not a government story. It is a private initiative.

Classical case for free marketers analysis.

Cars have been stuffed with recording devices. But nobody forces you to move around in car, you can walk if you do not like that.

And there is a carrot: while you accept to be monitored around, it means lower insurance costs as the insurer can provide new contractual lines (the importance of the contract in 'americanism) to lower the fees if you comply with a set of 'risk diminishing' behaviours.

And once again, as free marketers put it, nobody forces you to take such a contract with an insurer.

Private sector initiative. So why mixing it with the fourth amendment?

Did 'americans' miss the memo? The King's government was a private government. There was no public in it, as one can expect from the republic 'americans' wanted so much.

But the FF, in their all knowledgeable approach, only censors tyranny from the government, which was by definition of a republic, public tyranny.

It leaves all the room possible for private tyranny. The fourth amendment is absolutely irrelevant.

Quite funny, huh? The King exerted a private tyrannical system. By 'american' standards, it would be totally allowed.

Gives the dimension of the scam 'americanism' is.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 17:27 | 3060900 Atticus Finch
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Because the private sector, corporations and banks own the government and dictate what the government will do, the fourth amendment is abridged via bribery, excuse me campaign contributions. By the Constitution, marketers, insurers cannot violate the Fourth Amendment. Are you contending that the Government cannot violate the Fourth Amendment, but that is is ok for private industry to do it?

All of this is going to end badly.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:57 | 3060286 GMadScientist
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It's not like buses are a popular target for bombers or anything.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 15:47 | 3060516 toomanyfakecons...
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Liberty isn't dead, nor is the 4th Amendment. It's just being rolled around in the dirt a little. If unionzed government workers are going to listen to those tapes, demand overtime, demand COLA increases, and demand better benefits, it will just bring the revolution on quicker.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 16:12 | 3060617 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Fuck the bus!  :-)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 16:57 | 3060814 Forgiven
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The world today is divided into the free and those who think they are.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 17:18 | 3060880 Atticus Finch
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Homeland Security is the terrorist.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 18:58 | 3061086 blindman
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"Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ..
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accepted as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. This was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759); the book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts that were used in it." ...
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http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 20:02 | 3061253 tony bonn
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the terrorists were the bush crime syndicate and rockefeller axis of evil who planned, provided matching grants for taxpayer funding of, and covered-up the 9/11 attacks to implement the 4th reich....indeed it is this same cabal of murderers who planned and executed world war 2 and brought about the ussr.....

you have been fooled and chumped because you are either a sheople, a fucktard, or both....

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 01:42 | 3061964 Tompooz
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This is all about feeding a very large database with voiceprints and faces. Content analysis is just the cream.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 02:09 | 3061981 TheObsoleteMan
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At first glance, you might ask: "Why are they so bothered by what the under class might say or think". You have to admit, the only people who ride public transportation in most parts of the country are those who have been priced out of owning an auto; not politically powerful. Madison Avenue doesn't even care about them, only the payday loan companies, bail bondsmen, liquor stores and  personal injury attorneys even bother to pitch to them. What is DHS so worried about? Could it be that the natives are getting restless? We are going into the Kenyan Pretender's second term, and all of their hopes and dreams are still unfulfilled. Like I stated in earlier posts, they will not stop until it will be a state of affairs where as soon as you step outside your home/apartment, you will be on someone's screen. This is the nature of the beast. We are almost there.

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