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Japan Scrambles Eight F-15 Jets As Chinese Airplane Enters Disputed Island Airspace

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Anyone hoping that if left on autopilot, pardon the pun, the frayed relations between Japan and China will fix themselves, is in for a disappointment. Because while the Japanese trade with China has imploded resulting in a collapse in Japanese exports, which in itself is crushing the local economy, the country may offset that economic decline with some "GDP growing" Keynesian voodoo if and when the provocations between the two countries escalate to the point of exchanged fire. Sure enough, Kyodo reports, that a Chinese government airplane entered Japanese airspace over the disputed Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea on Thursday in the first such airspace intrusion in Japan, prompting not only an immediate protest from the Japanese government, one which China refused to accept because it stated the islands are its own territory, but the scrambling of up to eight Japanese F-15 fighters. This is only the first time a Chinese airplane has entered the disputed airspace, the the third time in history: once before by a Soviet bomber in 1979 and a Taiwanese civilian aircraft in 1994. We now look forward to what China's response will be to this reaction which will certainly be seen as provocative in itself.

From Kyodo:

The Air Self-Defense Force scrambled F-15 fighter jets to the area after one of China's State Oceanic Administration airplanes was spotted at 11:06 a.m. about 15 kilometers south of Uotsuri Island, one of the Japanese-administered Senkakus claimed by China, Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura told reporters.

 

It is the first-ever intrusion by China into Japanese airspace since Tokyo started tallying the number of such intrusions in 1958, according to the Defense Ministry.

 

Four Chinese maritime surveillance vessels entered Japanese waters around the disputed islands in Okinawa Prefecture in the morning, marking the third straight day Chinese government ships have entered the waters, the Japan Coast Guard said.

 

Tokyo immediately filed a protest with Beijing after the airspace intrusion, Fujimura said, adding that it is "extremely deplorable" that the incident occurred on top of the intrusion by the Chinese ships, which lasted about six hours.

 

"We are determined to deal firmly with action that violates our country's sovereignty in accordance with domestic laws and regulations," the top government spokesman added.

 

Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda instructed relevant government offices to take further caution in warning and surveillance activities, he said.

 

In a stump speech in Sagamihara, Kanagawa Prefecture, Noda said, "I pledge to protect the nation and its people by practicing a thorough crisis management to protect our territorial land, sea, sovereignty and national interests."

 

The State Oceanic Administration of China, for its part, said its aircraft conducted a patrol mission with the four ships after reaching Chinese airspace over the disputed islands, which China calls Diaoyu.

 

Earlier in the morning, a coast guard patrol vessel that spotted the Chinese airplane radioed the aircraft, saying that it must leave Japanese airspace, but the plane replied that it was in Chinese airspace, according to the coast guard.

 

To respond to the airspace violation, the ASDF scrambled six F-15s from a base on the main Okinawa island and routed two more that had already been airborne. But the Chinese aircraft had already left the airspace when the fighter jets got there.

 

Radar operated by the Self-Defense Forces did not pick up the aircraft, according to the SDF.

 

Vice Foreign Minister Chikao Kawai summoned acting Chinese Ambassador to Japan Han Zhiqiang to the Foreign Ministry in the early afternoon to lodge a protest, calling for the prevention of any similar case in the future and for Chinese ships still inside the waters to swiftly leave the area.

 

Han asserted that the islands belong to China and declined to accept the protest, yet indicated he would convey the protest to his home government. The diplomat noted that China hopes to resolve the dispute in a peaceful manner through communication between the two countries, according to the ministry.

And with just days left until the nationalistic Shinzo Abe become the new old PM of Japan, and the Senkaku islands become a boiling issue of contention between the two populations, the geopolitical wildcard the far east is becoming just too big to ignore.

 


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Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:06 | Link to Comment Capitalist
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Is anyone else thinking Asian Top Gun?

http://youtu.be/V8rZWw9HE7o

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:08 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Oh no......there goes Tokyo. 

 

Cue Godzilla.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment trav777
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hiiiighway to the danger zone

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment inevitablecollapse
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It's hiiiiirrrray - get it right

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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Oh well..the star will be taller than Tom Cruise !;o)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:51 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Japanese are fucking stupid people.

In 1941, instead of helping their friend Nazi Germany and finishing the Soviet Union, Japanese have signed non-aggression Pact with Soviets and attacked the USA. Well, Stalin rewarded them very well. Japan must be lucky that Stalin did not occupy a half of Japan mainland.

Now, this stupid people are proud American lackeys.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:07 | Link to Comment economics9698
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A lot of bad blood between these two.  Chicoms looking for some payback.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:15 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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This has little to do with Japan and more to do with the United States' efforts to continue to topple regimes loyal to China that supply China with important resources (in this instance Iran).  I think each day it is becoming more clear that Iran marks the limit of American aggression for Russia and China (akin to Poland for the British and the French).

I think a decision has been made in China-- tit for tat... if the U.S. topples Iran (a very important economic partner of China), China will destablize Japan... quid pro quo.  This is the obvious message... except idiots like Hillary Clinton run the U.S. Department of State, and anyone who disagrees with Obama or Hilary is run out of the military high command, so I am not sure if the idiots in Washington are getting this message clearly.

So I will spell it out for them.... China is saying, "What the U.S. does to Iran... We do the same to Japan."

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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An interesting--and certainly plausible--take on what initially seems like an Abbott and Costello-esque farcical dialogue.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:31 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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This is how the game of realpolitik is played, and China plays realpolitik.  The United States government is nothing more than a pawn of international finance and zionists in this game.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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when i was in high school ..a really big guy beat up our buddy, a really little guy...little guy went and kicked the shit out of big guys little brother..than told big guy he could beat him up everyday if he wants....big guy never touched him again....so i guess it will come down to the question ...how much do we really care for our closest allys....i mean in the big scheme of things we just nuked them not that long ago...and "our" team does not appear to be that smart or loyal...so china may need a plan b....

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:31 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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AB, seems logical - however china is getting a piece of Iran after the downfall of the current tyrants that is what is being talked about between US russia china and Mid east countries..who gets what and who gets into power in Iran.

China does not want a shooting war over Japan..it wants to secure oil, it could care less about the mulla's as in the long run the mulla's are a threat to China via Islamic china populations.

the fly in the ointment is that those in power in USA are not effective in talks as they are so tied up by PC BS. and egos.

if a shooting war occurs it is because the USA is run by idiots with a PC world view.

Nixon was pragmatic about china and look how he ended up in our media..evil when in fact he avoided military hostility with China. hillary and o bum a are not that pragmatic.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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"if a shooting war occurs it is because the USA is run by idiots with a PC world view."

In large part this is true.  However, the USA functions, today, mostly as a puppet for the interests of international financial (read bankers and large hedge-fund managers), because U.S. global power increasingly is linked directly to the status of the dollar and not to any industrial or productive potential.  In addition, the influence of zionists over the American government is beyond perverse, is unique in the history of mankind, and can only be explained as something diabolical.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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" because U.S. global power increasingly is linked directly to the status of the dollar and not to any industrial or productive potential. In addition, the influence of zionists over the American government."

very true AB, a house bilt on paper foundations should not throw matches at its enemy. NWO as I define it are people with no loyalty to ANY nation that fits our elite in politics and finance in USA, not so far in China, but I am sure that is being worked on.

as for the zionists, they are tools of the NWO, or Israel would have long ago been eliminated..many I am sure are part of the NWO elite, but that is a tool to get to Iran, while many blame Israel, it is a part of the bigger NWO game.

I know anti zionists will disagree, but it's about oil, never been about Israel..it's that simple, anti zionists are tools as various .gov's use to keep us from the simple truth..who gets and controls ME oil.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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"but it's about oil, never been about Israel"

I used to think this, but the events of the past 10 years have changed my position.  If it is about oil, why the preocuppation with Syria (because Syria funnels arms to Hezbollah)?  If it is about oil, why potentially disrupt the entire global oil market by starting a shooting war with Iran, who has the power to blockade the Straights for a long period of time (because Israel cannot dislodge Hezbollah so long as Hezbollah has the support of Iran)?  If it is about oil, why threaten to disrupt traffic through the Suez Canal by creating uncertainty and chaos in Egypt (because Egypt funnels arms to Gaza), and a new government in Egypt could potentially reduce Egyptian support for Hamas?  If it is about oil, why was the U.S. in Lebanon?

Finally, if it is about oil, why support Israel at all?  Why sell Israel arms?  America's support for Israel runs exactly counter to their national interest to secure Middle Eastern oil.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment SilverDOG
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AurorusBorealus,

Divide and conquer.

Concur.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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 It's about pipelines, suppression of those who would operate outside the petrodollar, support of oil sheikhdoms vital to the petrodollar racket, and denial and threat of denial of resources to (especially) China.

Israel helps fan the flames of Sunni/Shiite division, to the advantage of US-dependent oil-petrodollar sheikhdoms. The military contracts and sales, not just to Israel, but throughout the Mideast, are most profitable. Israel is a valuable attack dog, when the US doesn't want to appear to get its hands dirty.

In a self-fulfilling sort of way, the global Pentagon is the world's single biggest consumer of petroleum products, and pushes for full-spectrum dominance and control of petroleum resources as a vital "security" issue.

 Why stir up trouble? Ever hear of the Chaos theory? It's been refined to become the Shock Doctrine. The masters of the universe are intent on making their own "reality".

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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I think that a lot people inside the U.S. government have made this argument over the years, and a lot of senior military people, concerned with the supply of oil, have listened to these arguments, including the intellectual lightweights that the U.S. people elect (read Bush, Clinton, Obama) and the fools that the appoint, for political reasons, to head the major branches of the U.S. government: State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and so forth.  But who is that is making these arguments, and why are alternative solutions never proposed or brought to light?

I can only surmise as to the motives of people who make these arguments, people like Wolfowitz, but I suspect that the motive is a loyalty to Israel, that supercedes any loyalty to the United States.  This perverse influence, along with a belief in a diabolical form of Christianity, which contends that the US must defend Jerusalem for the return of Jesus Christ, is the reason the U.S. supports Israel against all worldly logic.

For these reasons, I call these influences perverse and diabolical.  As a Christian, who has studied the bible rather thoroughly, I can plainly state, as a point of fact, that God does not call Christians to war to defend Jerusalem, and I am quite certain God does not need the help of American FA-22s and drones to establish a his holy kingdom.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Matt
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To what advantage is it to Israel, to have the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt?

How, in the long run, does Israel benefit from having Al Qaeda in Syria? (The short term benefit is that Hezbollah is tied down from interfering during the current Gaza situation)

I suspect Al Qaeda is far more dangerous than Hezbollah.

Perhaps there is no long term plan, and everyone is going around with short term planning?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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 The Muslim Brotherhood leadership may be more pro-Western than they publically admit.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/13/unmasking-the-brotherhood/

 

Politics, can't always go by what the political leaders say.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment meizu
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wrong!  for china, shia Iran is the prefect counter to the sunni turks

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:36 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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The world was a different place when the US was the Big Boy at the bus stop.   But the world doesn't see the US as that Big Boy any more.  Or, perhaps, the Big Boy that now has a broken leg.

I can understand the tit-4-tat doctrine.   But if China wants to be respected as a world leader, as the US has historically been, then they need to behave like the good guy/big boy at the bus stop, and not just the strongest bully.   They need to be loved by people around the world, not feared.  

I like China.  I like Chinese people.  I'm glad they've been successful and I hope for their future success, but a Chinese big boy at the bus stop that is unstable, unpredictable and emotional is unfortunate.  It will certainly lead to a less stable world and it will not help China achieve their long term objectives.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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The problem is this... the United States under Clinton, Bush II, and Obama does nothing but lecture other countries about what "they need to do."  1 administration, no problem. However 3 consecutive marks a distinctive change in American foreign policy.  The U.S. now is run by arrogant, dilletante baby-boomers who think they know what is best for everyone.  They hold the rest of the world in the same contempt that the hold the average Joe in the U.S.  The average Joe doesn't seem to mind that his government holds him in contempt (since 47% of the Joe's depend on this government for food and shelter), but the other potentates of the world do not care to be lectured by Hilary Clinton and her ilk.  With the global economy crumbling, another crisis imminent, war is almost a certainty at this point unless the U.S. changes direction completely and immediately (which is about as likely as central bank money printing returning the world to prosperity).

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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I agree with what you've said completely.   Still, if the goal (perhaps a big if) were to eventually convince the world that CNY should be the world reserve currency...then I think China is making some strategic mistakes.    That may not be their objective.  That's their choice.  

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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China is a tyranny or haven't you heard!?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment trav777
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destabilizing Japan is a bit bigger deal than Iran.  Japan is a de facto nuclear state.  They could vaporize China.

They have both a superior air force and a superior navy to China's.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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I disagree.  Do not believe the war propoganda that destroying Iran's military will be an easy task.  A blockade of the Straits will be very difficult to remove rapidly.  I would estimate 6 months to ensure that tankers could move through the Straits.  With a large portion of the global oil supply cut off, the global situation would, without doubt, deteriorate most rapidly.  It would be near impossible to navigate these shoals as the aggressive power (i.e. the US) without sparking World War.  The China-Japan issue is more a regional conflict involving (of course) the United States as the sole interloping power outside the region.

 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Matt
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You are looking at this as an isolated two-party dispute over a couple rocks sticking out of the ocean.

The bigger picture is disputes over territorial waters involving Tiawan, Vietnam, The Phillipines, India. On top of that, you have the Koreas. Not to mention that China insists Tiawan is a territory of China.

That whole region is probably much less stable than it appears.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment resurger
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China has Human Meat Balls Rockets. beat that!

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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a few billion screaming dudes w/ AKs go a pretty long way-ask McCarthur

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Omen IV
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that is what McArthur believed going into Korea - he changed his mind after the chinese moved down the korean peninsula and he effectively defacto surrendered

the usa game increasingly looks like from afar that russia and china and their protectorates like iran are not going to tolerate usa hegemony militarily and then eventually reserve currency status will be challenged - china is effectively moving steadly and quietly to gather up world resources with friendly policies especially in Africa and SA in a mercantilist policy -  while the usa spends trillions with war games and machinery

they can drop ship 10 million people into every island in question and defacto control the supply lines to those people indefinitely just like Israel moves into Gaza with new settlement every year - colonization

the chinese are a modern completely coordinated state that wants the motherland and more importantly its people to WIN - the usa hates the vast majority of its citizens especially the republican party and wants them eliminated

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Matt
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The problem McArthur had was that he was not allowed to "Nuke the Basterds!"

As for the "islands" in question, have you seen them? some of them cannot hold 1000 people let alone 10 million.

And the value is not the islands, but the fish and oil in the ocean.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment CPL
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Not just Japan.  List of repo trades as follows.

 

 

- Vietnam

- South Korea

- Australia

- New Zealand

 

That's what Iran will cost.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment AurorusBorealus
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This is the worrying part, China is signaling that it may be wiling to start a global war here.  Japan is perfect for this too, because with Japan as the catalyst, Russia is much more likely to side with the Chinese than over any issue in the Middle East.

The U.S. Secretary of State, if not the president, should be in China right now talking about these issues and clarifying how far China is willing to go here... instead... we will probably get a speach by Geithner accusing China of currency manipulation.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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"I think a decision has been made in China-- tit for tat... if the U.S. topples Iran (a very important economic partner of China), China will destablize Japan."

"Or" bye bye Taiwan!

Tuco

P. S.  Be nice to "thunder thighs".  She is just following orders from the demonati!  Her intentions are benign!

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 14:58 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Spain had General Francisco Franco. Chile had General Augusto Pinochet.  Anything less will not save America from a civil war and an economic catastrophe.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:28 | Link to Comment BandGap
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Eight fighters is a lot of muscle for this type of incident.

Odd that the Chinese plane wasn't initially picked up on radar.....

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:54 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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as soon as i read this that was my thought......trying out new stealth technology against western radar?

 

bet the Chinese factories are frantically putting out all type of miltary hardware, planes, tanks, ships, Ac carriers.....they know what is going to happen in a few years.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Made easier by the likes of Slick Willie when he gave them access to the patent office, dividends are starting to pay off.  Too bad we don't punish treason anymore...

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Bollixed
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And what was the deal with China buying/hoarding six years supply of cotton? Uniforms?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 13:31 | Link to Comment kralizec
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You said "cotton" that is a racist word, shame on you!

Oh, and, yeah, what's up with that?  Something expected to disrupt the normal course fo trade, eh?

Hmm, bullish for bearish outlook.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment trav777
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it was probably a chinese cessna 172 clone

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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If that is the case Trav it surely could have flown into Moscow undetected as well:) 

Welcome back Trav!  We missed you as much as we could!

Tuco

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:29 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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I think the real Trav777 has been replaced by a Mossad/CIA operative- but I'm pretty f-ing paranoid.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 17:02 | Link to Comment Goner
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This raises a flag with me also. But I wondered why they would admit it and how they knew the plane was there. If a plane flew into your airspace and you radar could not see it, why would you come out and say so.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:08 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Let the strongly statements fly!

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:26 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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Strongly worded statements, nmewn?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Yes, he meant "Let the strongry worded statements fry!"

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Heh, yu roosers crack mi up!  Raugh mi siwwy!

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:15 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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The way these two keep going at it over these relatively insignificant specks of land, you'd think the islands' core were solid gold.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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 FYI

There may be significant offshore petroleum resources.

Some fishing rights, and a strategic location.

All that in addition to Chinese annoyance that the US administered the islands from 1945 -1971, and then handed them over to Japan, when they should have been returned to China in 1945 (having been seized from China by Japan in war 50 years earlier)..

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Matt
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When does this bullshit end?

The freaking Romans stole my ancestral lands in Europe 2500 years ago, I demand they be returned to me.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:18 | Link to Comment Ralph Spoilsport
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"Radar operated by the Self-Defense Forces did not pick up the aircraft according to the SDF".

Stealth aircraft?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:25 | Link to Comment ihedgemyhedges
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Stealth aircraft?  Not exactly.  Similar to moo goo gai pan or Chang's Special #7, the effects of their aircraft disappear quickly though.......

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment BandGap
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More likely that the Chinese are aware of blind spots bin the Japanese radar coverage. This "mistake" might have been a further effort to test the Japanese capability.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Reptil
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China has announced that as of 1st of januari 2013, it will impound ANY foreign vessel present in the (disputed) territorial waters.

The upside of this is of course that the world won't end on the 21st of december.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:28 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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They scrambled 12 and could only get 8 in the air...(Sigh, I remember when Americans got to make the manufacturing quality jokes)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:31 | Link to Comment Wu Qi Ming
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Being that this happened on the 13th of Dec on the 75th anniversary of the "Rape of Nanjing" could also be part of the timing factor. Today air raid sirens were sounding throughout Nanjing at 10:10- 10:25 in honour of those lost. I wonder what time that plane made its way there? Oh yes, it say 11:06, now minus an hour for time zone and, aaahhh.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:08 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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Being intuitive is your thing Ming.  Thank you.

 

Tuco

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:33 | Link to Comment kralizec
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OK Japan, next time don't waste the jet fuel, just launch a couple SAMs at it.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:43 | Link to Comment Haus-Targaryen
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SAMs are cheap.  Lauch a dozen.  

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Compared to jets especially so.  Plus with radar, radio and IFF you can figure out pretty quick who is naughty or nice and deliver the correct present.  ;)

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:40 | Link to Comment Haus-Targaryen
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My money is Japan.  

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:44 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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Japan's oceanic research ships just happen to have whale meat processing plants on board so it is no wonder why they would be afraid of China's Oceanic Administration airplanes.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:47 | Link to Comment BurningFuld
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These guys are neighbours. Can't they let each other fly in their air space? Can't we all just get along?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Apparently not. The funny thing was that the plane did not activate the radar to alert the Japanese military, they had to be spotted by a boat and called in that way. Humm new radar evading equipment from the Chinese, that's what they are up in arms over. And just as we are spreading our troops to thin in the ME, what a cryin shame. 

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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If I remember correctly, Bill Clinton sold that stuff to the Chinese.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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The Chinese didn't build it, someone else did.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:06 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, through Loral Corporation which later went bankrupt Clinton sold missle technology to Chicoms for campaign cash.  One more reason he and his wife "thunder thighs" should be hung for treason!

Tuco

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment unrulian
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how do we know they didn't show up on radar? because it was reported so in the media? shake your heads

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment Stonedog
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Mushroom clouds are bullish, right?

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment exi1ed0ne
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For cockroaches.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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Another example of the governments having their own agenda with no thought whatsoever of the well being of their own people. As if anyone couldn't see this wouldn't be a trade barrier and conflict.  Oh well, no job then you can go fish for radiated fish to survive all day. That's your new job.  Only thing I can figure is these are desperate end time moves that the gov't knows is coming and the people are going to die sooner or later so my as well get situated. You tell me.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Matt
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Ah, but they are thinking of their own people. Better for the poor masses to be smashing Japanese stores and getting riled up to fight Japanese, then to be looting and killing the corrupt leaders, bankers and factory owners in their own country.

The people are angry, they need to be told who to be angry at, or they will lash out at anyone.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment Monedas
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Quick, get Oliver Stone's take .... he's our foremost liberal historian film maker !

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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Coincidentally, Darryl Robert Schoon recently posted a lecture where at one point, IIRC, citing a 20 year old prediction from one of his sources, states...  "Japan will no longer exist."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLS7uhTekM&feature=youtu.be

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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All new potential tough guys have to pick a bitch to make an example of. Japan gets to be that bitch.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment BattlegroundEur...
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a bitch for the USA and China.  I bet the Japanese ppl are longing for the Imperial days again.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Two for flinching!!

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment yogibear
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China needs to be patient and work to take the aircraft industry as well.

Each strategic industry China takes weakens the US.

The way to win a war against the US is economically defeat it.  Take away it's reserve currency status.

China has Bubble Bernanke and the fed enabling this weakening.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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How this will play out is anybody's guess, seeing that the US has the Mount Everest of Stupidity and Imbecility known as the Congress that is coupled with a Dr. Strangelove Military and a State Dept. that couldn't find its own ass with a map and GPS...

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment eaglerock
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This is serious shit folks.

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 19:37 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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I bet the japs have to be funding their own black defense upgrade program in anticipation of our predictable collapse and their locality to 2 larger foreign neighbors who pretty much hate them.

The Senkakus are part of their "energy security" which becomes more important with every American debt issue. 

Japan wont back down on account of America going "unreliable 3rd world banana Republik" (there is no denying it) , they can't afford to rely on America meeting their energy needs when we're going bankrupt. they can see the writing on the wall, we're becoming a liability they can't afford.  

Our ability to fund Israel is rapidly closing too, they'll bolt when we can't buy their protection too.

When the Japs bolt, we're toast.

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