Newtown, CT Elementary School Shooting Tally Rises To 27 Dead, Of Whom 20 Children - Live Video

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Update 4: the NYT has released a brief biopic on Lanza's, who it turns out had Asperger's Syndrome:

He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class, and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words out, as if having to speak up were painful.


Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things that his classmates recalled about him.


He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.


Until Friday.


The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out one of the deadliest mass shootings in the nation’s history. He killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school where his mother worked, they said. He then apparently turned his gun on himself. The police said he also earlier killed his mother.


In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the massacre.


Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.


Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was in social situations.


Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told that the disorder was Asperger syndrome, which is considered to be a high functioning form of autism.


“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From what I saw, people just let him be and that was that.”


One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder described Mr. Lanza as having “very flat affect,” adding, “If you looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”


Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those who did not understand him.


Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.

More here. Indeed, there is a statistical predisposition, at least anecdotally, for those with Asperger's toward both murder and violence.  In other words, watch as the debate rages over the traditional bogeyman of gun control, in a country with over three hundred million weapons, when we may well simply be talking about a mentally ill young adult.

As for the misidentified Ryan, who for a few brief hours was presented by law enforcement as the suspected shoorter, we learn from the WSJ:

Israel raids Palestinian NGO officesKatie Colaneri, a 24-year-old resident of Hoboken, N.J., described herself as a friend of Ryan, the suspect’s brother who for hours Friday was incorrectly identified as the alleged gunman. “He [is] a little shy, but very nice and sweet,” said Ms. Colaneri, who has known Ryan for over a year.


She said Ryan is a gentle guy who was  devoted to his job at the Ernst & Young accounting firm. A representative for Ernst & Young would not comment on his employment status.


A law-enforcement official briefed on the investigation told the Associated Press that Ryan has been “extremely co-operative” and is not under arrest, although he was still being question late Friday.


The official said Ryan’s computers and phone records were being searched but only “in an abundance of caution.” Ryan told authorities he had not been in touch with his brother Adam in recent years, and the official said he isn’t believed to have any connection to the school killings.


In Hoboken, Ryan lives in a newer building that was hard-hit by superstorm Sandy, Ms. Colaneri said. He lost power for a number of days following the storm.


The last time she saw him, about a month ago, Ms. Colaneri recalled that Ryan ran up to her and gave her a hug.  ”I’m really shocked,” she said. “As the details unfolded, I was totally devastated.”

Update 3: ABC has released a picture of the real shooter, Adam Lanza, taken in 2005 when he was ~13 years old.

Update 2 : NY Post now refuting CNN's initial report, and stating that the shooter's real name is Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza, who is instead brother of the latter. At this point there appears to be a ridiculous amount of confusion who did what, so it perhaps would be prudent on behalf of the authorities to double check this information before releasing it to the media. And just out from AP:

The AP confirms this further here:

The suspect in the Connecticut school shootings is Adam Lanza, 20, the son of a teacher at the school where the shootings occurred, a law enforcement official said Friday. A second law enforcement official says the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, is presumed dead.


Adam Lanza's older brother, Ryan, 24, of Hoboken, N.J., is being questioned by police, said the first official. Earlier, a law enforcement official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names.


Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.


The first official said Adam Lanza is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


According to the second official, the suspect drove to the scene of the shootings in his mother's car. Three guns were found at the scene — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two pistols were recovered from inside the school.


The official also said Lanza's girlfriend and another friend are missing in New Jersey.


Meanwhile, former Jersey Journal staff writer Brett Wilshe said he has spoken with Ryan Lanza of Hoboken, who told Wilshe the shooter may have had Ryan Lanza's identification.


Ryan Lanza has a Facebook page that posted updates Friday afternoon that read that "it wasn't me" and "I was at work."

Update: According to CNN the shooter's name is Ryan Lanza, out of New Jersey. Based on a White Pages reverse lookup there is an 18-24 year old Ryan Lanza living in Hoboken, NJ whose FaceBook profile lists Newtown, CT as his home city. Whether it is the same person remains to be confirmed officially.


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Sadly, increasingly it appears that not a day, and certainly not a week can pass, in the US without news of some mass killing somewhere. Several days ago its was a mall in Oregon, and today it is a shooting rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. Here is what is known: the shooter, who CBS reports is a 20 year old from New Jersey, is reported to be dead. A second shooting suspect, a 24 year old man with a bulletproof vest and 4 guns has been apprehended in custody (this has subsequently been not confirmed). According to CBS 27 people are dead, of whom 18, Connecticut Post 27 people are dead, of whom 20 tragically, children. Among the dead are the principal and the school psychologist. The AP has already dubbed it "the worst school tragedy in American history."

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Live streaming updates on everything Newtown related can be found on the Reuters website here.

More from Reuters:

 At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.


If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. The holiday season tragedy follows a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims, and it was certain to revive a debate about U.S. gun laws.


The principal and school psychologist were among the dead, CNN said. Witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots with some saying as many as 100 were fired.


The suspected shooter, 24, was armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, WABC reported.


There were unconfirmed reports of a second shooter.


Another person was being held in police custody after he was detained in the woods near the school wearing camouflage pants, CBS reported.


Sandy Hook Elementary School teaches children from kindergarten through fourth grade - roughly ages 5 to 10.


"It was horrendous," said parent Brenda Lebinski, who rushed to the school where her daughter is in the third grade. "Everyone was in hysterics - parents, students. There were kids coming out of the school bloodied. I don't know if they were shot, but they were bloodied."


Television images showed police and ambulances at the scene, and parents rushing toward the school. Parents were seen reuniting with their children and taking them home.


"This is going to be bad," a state official told Reuters, requesting anonymity because the scope of the tragedy remained uncertain.


President Barack Obama was notified and would receive regular updates throughout the day, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.


"We're still waiting for more information about the incident in Connecticut," Carney said when asked about the president's reaction to it.


Carney called the event "tragic" and said there would be time later for a discussion of policy implications.


Obama remains committed to trying to renew a ban on assault weapons, Carney said.


All Newtown schools were placed in lockdown after the shooting, the Newtown Public School District said.


Lebinski said a mother who was at the school during the shooting told her a "masked man" entered the principal's office and may have shot the principal. Lebinski, who is friends with the mother who was at the school, said the principal was "severely injured."


Lebinski's daughter's teacher "immediately locked the door to the classroom and put all the kids in the corner of the room."


Danbury Hospital, about 11 miles (18 km) west of the school, had received three patients from the scene, a hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut. The mayor of Danbury, Mark Boughton, told MSNBC: "They are very serious injuries."

An early report from CBS:

A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left several children and the gunman dead, law enforcement sources tell CBS News. At least one teacher was wounded in the shooting that sent frightened pupils into the parking lot.


It is unclear if there was more than one gunman at the school.


Law enforcement sources told CBS News senior correspondent John Miller that preliminary and unconfirmed information indicates that the shooter was the father of a student.


The shooter was killed and apparently had two guns, a person with knowledge of the shooting told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.


It wasn't clear how many people were injured at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. CBS Hartford affiliate WFSB-TV reports around 600 students attend the school.


Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance described the situation to CBS New York station WCBS-AM as a "very serious school shooting."


A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps said a teacher had been shot in the foot and taken to Danbury Hospital.


Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.


"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said.


Lisa Bailey, a Newtown resident with three children in Newtown schools, told, "Newtown is a quiet town. I'd never expect this to happen here. It's so scary. Your kids are not safe anywhere."


The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City. Schools in neighboring towns also were locked down as a precaution.


State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m.

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kridkrid's picture

Very good evidence of this with the aurora CO shooter. Haven't looked closely at the others.

trav777's picture

there was a 2nd mass shooting in WI last month; the tenor and tone of the media coverage was totally different.  3 dead, 4 more injured, typical incident.

I'll bet that if people read the coverage, most of these conditioned lemmings, they will mentally file it as different because they're programmed to. 

Some of the big cities are bloodbaths...nary a peep about it.  How do you get 40 shootings in a weekend and no one knows?

derek_vineyard's picture

prozac, entertainment violence, too much ego, materialism, virtual world , etc, etc have impeded people from actually doing things and feeling emotion to become balanced and aware

UGrev's picture

Interesting that you use "Programming" in your reply. I'm not saying you're incorrect, but I don't think you're using it in the proper context. It isn't "programming" in the sense of brainwashing them to become killers so much as it is de-programming their humanity. Which is a sort of programming in itself. 

Frankie Carbone's picture

I was thinking the same thing. They, the statists, were losing the war on guns, so something desperate needed to be done. Think about how extremely politically convenient this act was at precisely the time that it was most needed. 26 people killed, most of them young children.

You just watch, gun control legislation proposed by Senate and Barry in 5...4...3...2....1..

Ohh, how convenient that the guns found were handguns and an AR-15 too. First ones on the list of the statists to ban.

People forget MK-ULTRA, and, combined with their childish trust in the media, seem to think that it's pie in the sky thinking to even consider that the government would be capable of something like that, or be effective at it.



Winston Churchill's picture

You would be surprised,as I was today.

A new employee of mine who I have only spoken about business to,

told me he thought it was a false flag to get gun control.He then informed

me that 9/11 was a demolition job.Don't kow who was more surpised,

me at his comments,or him by my agreement.

Maxter's picture

Just to add to your idea.  Notice how it seems like most mass shooter has asperger syndrome or take some heavy meds.  I postulate that the MK ULTRA programme works better on those kind of people. (and it provide a nice cover up)


willwork4food's picture

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond.."

-Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

As horrible as it could possible seem it appears that their agenda to strip us from the protection guns offer our country from those who would rule over us as Lords, rather than public servents.


"The Freedom to keep and bear arms in 2012 is not what our Constitution and our Founding Fathers had intended for us over 200 years ago. Not by an automatic long shot."

-Sarah O'Leary is a writer, licensed minister, and an issues-based independent. She can be reached via email, Huff Post Dec. 14, 2012

Clashfan's picture

Agreed. More people need to learn about SRA, MKULTRA, and trauma-based programming. It should always be suspected in instances like this, by officials and by readers/citizens.


r101958's picture

Everybody here needs to read 'Enemies, Foreign and Domestic' by Matt Bracken. Nuff said.

Axenolith's picture

Which is why there is nearly always an armed guard at a bank, grocery store (in the cities) and many other high value "property" places, but NOT at the schools...

EnslavethechildrenforBen's picture

Bankers shooting babies with drones to get at their resources is evil.

Bankers paying a madman to shoot babies so that the Bankers can ultimately get our guns away from us is evil to the tenth power.

When guns are outlawed, only Bankers will have guns and shoot babies.

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

You are correct.  


"If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. The holiday season tragedy follows a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims, and it was certain to revive a debate about U.S. gun laws."



"The suspected shooter, 24, was armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, WABC reported."


Yet another young "crazy person" committing "random" acts of extreme violence.

Harbanger's picture

There's something evil about this god forsaken generation.

CommunityStandard's picture

Yeah, they bankrupted the country then expect us to pay for their debts and comfy retirements.  Oh wait... you're talking about us younger folk.  Just so you know, a majority of us don't plan on shooting anyone, children or otherwise.

Harbanger's picture

Is that why he did it?  I'm 28 yrs old.  I'm well aware of the victim mentality of my generation.  My blessing is I was raised by my grandfather.

Jendrzejczyk's picture

I wish ZH had been around when I was 28 (21 years ago).

Maybe I wouldn't have been wearing that wooly sheepskin my whole fucking life.

Freedom Pilot's picture

There is evil in every generation.

mumcard's picture

Yes, but it seems a life of leisure and plenty lends to it being more widespread.

LostAtSea's picture

Interesting, just three weeks ago:

On 28 November 2012, the Olson family filed suit against the U.S. federal government for the wrongful death of Frank Olson. [58]



FeralSerf's picture

Bankers have a justifiable fear of Americans' guns being trained on them if the sheep ever "get it".   This is a means to have public opinion demand that those guns be confiscated.  Then anyone possessing, or suspected of possessing, a firearm (only criminals will possess firearms) can be summarily executed by the police.  What else is the likely motive?  Were there any of these sort of terrorist acts perpetrated in the years before Columbine and the Stockton school shooting of 1989?  Not too many.

Motive, means and opportunity.   Cause and effect.  It's all about keeping the sheep agitated and "under the protection" of TPTB.  The sheep would be safer if the wolves were their protectors.

MiguelitoRaton's picture

The shooter could have done the same damage with a car in a busy parking lot, or a gallon of gas split over 20 molotov cocktails, so while we're banning guns, let's ban cars and gas too.

swmnguy's picture

Very true.  But he didn't.  And neither did the guy in Oregon, the guy in Colorado, the kids at Columbine, etc. etc.

funthea's picture

Yes, but if there were no guns they would haveuse gas or an auto etc. They would have simply used any means to commit the murder they chose. Guns deter crime. That is why police wear guns.

There are simply bad people in the world. You might as well outlaw bad people. Won't change a thing.

trav777's picture

why is it you can only name those particular mass shootings?

citizen2084's picture

How many guns did McVeigh use?

How about OJ?

How about the hijackers on 911?

How many guns in the first world trade center bombing?

How about the subway attack in Japan with a virus, no guns in that either?

You are being sold a narrative, resist it.






francis_sawyer's picture


McVeigh did it?

Hijackers with boxcutters?


OK ~ So OJ did it... I guess we'll have to ban knives... Sucks ~ because I was planning on steak for dinner...


WillyGroper's picture

Remember, there was an alleged 3rd party besides Nichols that was never found.


GoinFawr's picture

RE:"The shooter could have done the same damage with a car in a busy parking lot, or a gallon of gas split over 20 molotov cocktails, so while we're banning guns, let's ban cars and gas too"

"You know perfectly well that if the killer didn't have a gun --"

"Yes yes, he would have killed those people with something else. Lawn furniture, maybe." -Tom Tommorrow

"It's better to have a gun and not need it than it is to need a gun and not have it." -so better get your first grader to the 'sports' shop  before it's too late.

"An armed society is a polite society." Was obviously coined by someone who has never been to the United States, or Canada.

-Letters to the usual address...

TwoShortPlanks's picture

@ nobody in particular.

I stand back from the comments of this thread and I wonder; are we seeing a degradation of society as we slide down the slope of stagflation?...I don't think so. This shit was going on when everyone was happy too. When everyone’s house and stocks were going up.

In Aust we don't have guns, well, none that are readily accessible that is, and the ones which turn up are somewhat, embarrassing. But we still have killings...even barrels of acid are weapons here (Snowtown).

IMO we can point a finger at a particular generation and say they are the issue, but no matter how fucked up Gen-Y are I don't think so. Even though they are a generation of attention seeking, fame and fortune obsessed, spastic fucktards who are in all honesty, struggling to cope in this world, they're still not the cause (Gen-Y's greatest hope is actually Gen-Z, they've got their heads on straight)...and nor are guns (lots of guns in the Army when I last looked, but few ever get used in killing sprees). I know this for a fact because human history has shown us a never ending series of examples that this is normal behaviour for humans. Even ancient cultures were as barbaric as us today. We're no better, and no worse than our ancestry...maybe a little more clinical and surgical in our methods, but just as brutal.

I think this sickness in some humans has something to do with a disconnect between morality and emotional neutrality. When emotions swing too far to one side, for a long enough duration, it pulls morality with it, and away from its' own neutral position. This disposition of both morality and emotions creates a disconnect with empathy...and lack of empathy gives the mind a free reign, and that's a very dangerous thing. I say this because over many years of gradual re/progression, even ethical scholarly academic people in Nazi Germany became infected with Eugenics; they too were swept-up in the euphoria of the greater cause. Even to the point where the most brutal of experiments were conducted on essentially innocent people, in the most clinical, sterile way, and without remorse and without,,,EMPATHY.

IMO, this is not a gun issue, this is not a generational issue, this is not a gender issue (the Nazi woman was just as ruthless as the man. Hillary Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Margaret Thatcher, these are female psychopaths capable of complete emotional disconnection with empathy), and this is not an educational issue either....this is an issue relating to the empathy within ones' soul being disconnected from the mind, morality and emotional stability (centring actually).

I think this may also be applied to the political and financial system too.

The slow disconnect:

IMO, the cause of all of this is quite simple, mentoring! We lost true mentoring when we turned our back on the village.

Or, I may be insane too.

RockyRacoon's picture

What... registering "large knives" next?  It's not the weapon, it's the perpetrator.
The news in the U. S. gets top billing.

Knife attack at Chinese school wounds 22 children By CNN Staff updated 9:35 AM EST, Fri December 14, 2012 Wei Jingru, a primary school student injured in a knife attack, receives medical treatment in a hospital.

  • NEW: Several of the children are in a critical state, state media report
  • The attack took place Friday morning at a primary school in Henan province
  • Police say they have detained a 36-year-old local resident
  • China was hit by a spate of knife and cleaver attacks on school children in 2010

Beijing (CNN) -- Twenty-two primary school children were wounded in a knife attack Friday in central China, authorities said.

The attack took place at the entrance to the Chenpeng Village Primary School in Henan province, according to the public information department of Guangshan county, the area where the school is located. An adult was also wounded, it said.

Several of the children are in critical condition, the state-run website said, citing local authorities.

Read more: Malala is face of global attacks on schools

Police say they have detained a suspect, a 36-year-old man from the village, state media reported.

Initial assessments suggest the man is mentally ill, said, citing Guangshan authorities.

China was hit by a spate of knife and cleaver attacks that targeted school children in 2010.

A number of measures were introduced at the time, including increased security at schools across the country and a regulation requiring people to register with their national ID cards when buying large knives.

CNN's Shao Tian in Beijing and journalist Pan Xinlei in Hong Kong contributed to this report.

aint no fortunate son's picture

and right before christmas - those poor fucking families

CH1's picture

the system will not be there to defend you (or in this case, the kids).

It used to be that the gym teacher had a shotgun. Not so in a long time now.

Shell Game's picture

Really dating yourself, CH1.  Echos of a more sane world we were born into and is since gone..

monkeyboy's picture

I don't think the world has ever been particularly sane, no matter the time period one was born into.

Every generation has its craziness. I think it's part of the human condition unfortunately.

No different now just on a much larger scale with everything amplified to 11.

Damn, crazy times none the less.

stormsailor's picture

my elementary school principal use to keep, and clean his rifles and shotguns in his office. and in the 1st and 2nd grades, almost everybody had a knife, we use to bring ammo in our pockets to show what kind of guns we had,, etc. etc.


our country was founded on the basis that though we had a right to whatever religion we wished,  they were all based upon a common god and the ten commandants.  remarks were made by our countries founders that our country could only thrive and exist in a "moral" society, that meaning having a basic belief in the ten commandments.


society and government today have so deviated from that basic founding, that the effect is being shown in all areas of society, the horrible incident could only be committed by someone devoid of god, with no belief of a soul nor a reckoning, but there are thousands of examples every day.


i know people will downvote this post,  its okay.  but our society has degenerated into a fragmented, godless, consumerist psychosis

ForTheWorld's picture

I downvoted you because you say "a right to whatever religion we wished, they were all based upon a common god and the ten commandmants (sic)", yet I doubt that the founding corporations would have wanted anything other than the English versions of Christianity.

I also downvoted you because the Crusades were performed by Christians and Muslims in the name of God/Allah, suicide bombings are done in the name of Allah, executions are carried out in the name of God. I consider myself an open minded Christian, yet the stupidity committed in the name of God astounds me. The people committing these acts will tell you they are one with God, and have accepted God into their lives, and in Christianity, only he who is without sin can cast the first stone. Metaphorically speaking of course, so you and I aren't in a position to judge at all.

nmewn's picture

I down voted you for being a screaming moral relatavist.

Did Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin carry the cross or crescent before them? Why, no they didn't, It was really about earth-based power and their own deity like supremacy over people wasn't it?

If we're going to argue based on body counts alone the moral relatavists have a commanding lead and are seeking to increase it.

THX 1178's picture

No, we were not founded on the christian religion, a cursory glance at article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli will convince even the stuffiest of childhood brainwashing victims.


Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.



As for the 10 commandments, only two of them are laws. 2/10 ain't so good. STOP FUCKING UP MY SECULAR NATION STATE YOU BRAINWASHED ZILCHERINO.

Josey Montana's picture

The United States of Thomas Jefferson's age was little more than a trade association for the 13 quite independent and still sovereign AMERICAN STATES that just invented it.

"Nation" refers to "people" as in "natal" or "native".  You were confused by 19th C. Nation-State slang.  Now you are corrected and won't make that mistake again.

The Americans -- not U.S. persons such as yourself -- were always a Christian people and were so until the US Cultural Revolution of the elites.  Even that's not strictly true as atheists still spong off the accumulated goodwill of the Christians that carry their worthless carcasses forward against the Law of the Jungle.

And an other thought: If a secular "state" is populated by committed Christians, How is that state not Christian de facto?


For examples of a truly secular state, you'll have to reference the Soviet Union and Maoist China.

Or you can continue to delude yourself.  Whatever. 

nmewn's picture

It's like we live on another planet populated by sheep bleating for the shepherd to come protect them.

monoloco's picture

It's high time we start arming the children so they can defend themselves.

JimBowie1958's picture


What would you suggest they bring? Lollipops? Tanks?

Jeebeezus, Killtruck, put the pipe down more often!'s picture

It's ironic that as the shooting began the police were called to bring guns because guns are "to blame" for the killings but now that there are dozens of armed men on the scene (too late) the survivors are safe.

SAT 800's picture

If they're lucky; I was just looking at some X-Rays the other day of a "highly trained police officer", ( the insiders amongst you will recognize that for sarcasm), who shot himself in the right lower leg with his .223 and completely destroyed his Tibia. He was on duty at the time with his swat, special issue, weapon, of course. Accidental discharge.

mumcard's picture

Funny that happens when you pull the trigger.