Newtown, CT Elementary School Shooting Tally Rises To 27 Dead, Of Whom 20 Children - Live Video

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Update 4: the NYT has released a brief biopic on Lanza's, who it turns out had Asperger's Syndrome:

He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class, and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words out, as if having to speak up were painful.

 

Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things that his classmates recalled about him.

 

He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.

 

Until Friday.

 

The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out one of the deadliest mass shootings in the nation’s history. He killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school where his mother worked, they said. He then apparently turned his gun on himself. The police said he also earlier killed his mother.

 

In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the massacre.

 

Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.

 

Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was in social situations.

 

Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told that the disorder was Asperger syndrome, which is considered to be a high functioning form of autism.

 

“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From what I saw, people just let him be and that was that.”

 

One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder described Mr. Lanza as having “very flat affect,” adding, “If you looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”

 

Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those who did not understand him.

 

Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.

More here. Indeed, there is a statistical predisposition, at least anecdotally, for those with Asperger's toward both murder and violence.  In other words, watch as the debate rages over the traditional bogeyman of gun control, in a country with over three hundred million weapons, when we may well simply be talking about a mentally ill young adult.

As for the misidentified Ryan, who for a few brief hours was presented by law enforcement as the suspected shoorter, we learn from the WSJ:

Israel raids Palestinian NGO officesKatie Colaneri, a 24-year-old resident of Hoboken, N.J., described herself as a friend of Ryan, the suspect’s brother who for hours Friday was incorrectly identified as the alleged gunman. “He [is] a little shy, but very nice and sweet,” said Ms. Colaneri, who has known Ryan for over a year.

 

She said Ryan is a gentle guy who was  devoted to his job at the Ernst & Young accounting firm. A representative for Ernst & Young would not comment on his employment status.

 

A law-enforcement official briefed on the investigation told the Associated Press that Ryan has been “extremely co-operative” and is not under arrest, although he was still being question late Friday.

 

The official said Ryan’s computers and phone records were being searched but only “in an abundance of caution.” Ryan told authorities he had not been in touch with his brother Adam in recent years, and the official said he isn’t believed to have any connection to the school killings.

 

In Hoboken, Ryan lives in a newer building that was hard-hit by superstorm Sandy, Ms. Colaneri said. He lost power for a number of days following the storm.

 

The last time she saw him, about a month ago, Ms. Colaneri recalled that Ryan ran up to her and gave her a hug.  ”I’m really shocked,” she said. “As the details unfolded, I was totally devastated.”

Update 3: ABC has released a picture of the real shooter, Adam Lanza, taken in 2005 when he was ~13 years old.

Update 2 : NY Post now refuting CNN's initial report, and stating that the shooter's real name is Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza, who is instead brother of the latter. At this point there appears to be a ridiculous amount of confusion who did what, so it perhaps would be prudent on behalf of the authorities to double check this information before releasing it to the media. And just out from AP:

The AP confirms this further here:

The suspect in the Connecticut school shootings is Adam Lanza, 20, the son of a teacher at the school where the shootings occurred, a law enforcement official said Friday. A second law enforcement official says the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, is presumed dead.

 

Adam Lanza's older brother, Ryan, 24, of Hoboken, N.J., is being questioned by police, said the first official. Earlier, a law enforcement official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names.

 

Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.

 

The first official said Adam Lanza is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

 

According to the second official, the suspect drove to the scene of the shootings in his mother's car. Three guns were found at the scene — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two pistols were recovered from inside the school.

 

The official also said Lanza's girlfriend and another friend are missing in New Jersey.

 

Meanwhile, former Jersey Journal staff writer Brett Wilshe said he has spoken with Ryan Lanza of Hoboken, who told Wilshe the shooter may have had Ryan Lanza's identification.

 

Ryan Lanza has a Facebook page that posted updates Friday afternoon that read that "it wasn't me" and "I was at work."

Update: According to CNN the shooter's name is Ryan Lanza, out of New Jersey. Based on a White Pages reverse lookup there is an 18-24 year old Ryan Lanza living in Hoboken, NJ whose FaceBook profile lists Newtown, CT as his home city. Whether it is the same person remains to be confirmed officially.

 

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Sadly, increasingly it appears that not a day, and certainly not a week can pass, in the US without news of some mass killing somewhere. Several days ago its was a mall in Oregon, and today it is a shooting rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. Here is what is known: the shooter, who CBS reports is a 20 year old from New Jersey, is reported to be dead. A second shooting suspect, a 24 year old man with a bulletproof vest and 4 guns has been apprehended in custody (this has subsequently been not confirmed). According to CBS 27 people are dead, of whom 18, Connecticut Post 27 people are dead, of whom 20 tragically, children. Among the dead are the principal and the school psychologist. The AP has already dubbed it "the worst school tragedy in American history."

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More from Reuters:

 At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.

 

If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. The holiday season tragedy follows a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims, and it was certain to revive a debate about U.S. gun laws.

 

The principal and school psychologist were among the dead, CNN said. Witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots with some saying as many as 100 were fired.

 

The suspected shooter, 24, was armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, WABC reported.

 

There were unconfirmed reports of a second shooter.

 

Another person was being held in police custody after he was detained in the woods near the school wearing camouflage pants, CBS reported.

 

Sandy Hook Elementary School teaches children from kindergarten through fourth grade - roughly ages 5 to 10.

 

"It was horrendous," said parent Brenda Lebinski, who rushed to the school where her daughter is in the third grade. "Everyone was in hysterics - parents, students. There were kids coming out of the school bloodied. I don't know if they were shot, but they were bloodied."

 

Television images showed police and ambulances at the scene, and parents rushing toward the school. Parents were seen reuniting with their children and taking them home.

 

"This is going to be bad," a state official told Reuters, requesting anonymity because the scope of the tragedy remained uncertain.

 

President Barack Obama was notified and would receive regular updates throughout the day, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

 

"We're still waiting for more information about the incident in Connecticut," Carney said when asked about the president's reaction to it.

 

Carney called the event "tragic" and said there would be time later for a discussion of policy implications.

 

Obama remains committed to trying to renew a ban on assault weapons, Carney said.

 

All Newtown schools were placed in lockdown after the shooting, the Newtown Public School District said.

 

Lebinski said a mother who was at the school during the shooting told her a "masked man" entered the principal's office and may have shot the principal. Lebinski, who is friends with the mother who was at the school, said the principal was "severely injured."

 

Lebinski's daughter's teacher "immediately locked the door to the classroom and put all the kids in the corner of the room."

 

Danbury Hospital, about 11 miles (18 km) west of the school, had received three patients from the scene, a hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut. The mayor of Danbury, Mark Boughton, told MSNBC: "They are very serious injuries."

An early report from CBS:

A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left several children and the gunman dead, law enforcement sources tell CBS News. At least one teacher was wounded in the shooting that sent frightened pupils into the parking lot.

 

It is unclear if there was more than one gunman at the school.

 

Law enforcement sources told CBS News senior correspondent John Miller that preliminary and unconfirmed information indicates that the shooter was the father of a student.

 

The shooter was killed and apparently had two guns, a person with knowledge of the shooting told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.

 

It wasn't clear how many people were injured at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. CBS Hartford affiliate WFSB-TV reports around 600 students attend the school.

 

Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance described the situation to CBS New York station WCBS-AM as a "very serious school shooting."

 

A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps said a teacher had been shot in the foot and taken to Danbury Hospital.

 

Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.

 

"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said.

 

Lisa Bailey, a Newtown resident with three children in Newtown schools, told CBSNewYork.com, "Newtown is a quiet town. I'd never expect this to happen here. It's so scary. Your kids are not safe anywhere."

 

The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City. Schools in neighboring towns also were locked down as a precaution.

 

State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m.

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Josey Montana's picture

What kind of dumass question is that, anyway????

Soph's picture

Well, you did say this...

"Unarmed children and their useless teachers who were armed only with platitudes."

Arming children is what you are implying, you know.

 

Now, insofar as the entire gun control debate goes, I've got nothing to add. we're all fubar anyway. The problems are so far beyond having a gun, or not, its hard to even fathom that simplistic a solution. But it does make for good reading, so you folks carry on.

Vooter's picture

Just curious--why do the vast majority of mass shootings happen in the country that has the laxest gun laws? I mean, seriously--you rarely, if ever, see shootings like these outside the U.S. Why are other people around the world able to control themselves when it comes to shooting others? Is it just something in the water here? The air? Inquiring minds want to know...

Spastica Rex's picture

A majority of one example.

Wow.

Back at ya, slack wit.

AnAnonymous's picture

A majority of one example.
_____________

'Americans' usually consider that when a minority elects a president, the majority is in charge.

It is 'american' to consider that one out of many is a majority.

By 'american' standards, it holds.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

It is 'AnAnonymerican' to consider that one turd out of many Chinese citizenism citizens can despoil all roadsides.

For 'American Standard' brand of flush toilets, we have no use, because our bowels we never hold.

Signed: AnAnonymous

Intoxicologist's picture

And please don't squeeze the Chairman......errrr, I mean Charmin.

Vooter's picture

I said the "vast majority" of shootings, you halfwit. Why can't you fucking retards READ? This is EXACTLY the problem in this country--we have to put up with TV- and sugar-addled subhumans like you....

forexskin's picture

been to somalia lately?

adventuretime's picture

The US does not even rank in the top 100 countries by murder rate.  Inquiring minds want you to kill yourself. 

Vooter's picture

Where did I mention the murder rate, you moron? I asked about MASS SHOOTINGS. Or do you have a reading comprehension problem? LOL...

adventuretime's picture

According to your theory, "other people around the world are able to control themselves".  However, your theory is proven catastrophically false by the empirical data. SO EAT A DICK.

Vooter's picture

What empirical data? I don't see a chart of world mass shootings anywhere in your post--what empirical data are you talking about? Do you just make shit up as you go along? LOL...

trav777's picture

guns are illegal in Mexico, no?

Oh, that's "different."  They have a REASON to slaughter people there.  Got it.

Psycho is psycho.  The Swiss have automatic rifles...why does this sort of thing not happen there?

lakecity55's picture

Laxest gun laws?

You need to read up on the USC and State Statutes, amigo.

Josey Montana's picture

You seem to think the population ofd the United States is homogeneous.

 

 

 

boh knows's picture

Generation Y is not Evil. You are ignorarnt to say that. Are you forgetting how operates society the older generation. Keep turning my generation into consuming/videogame head/brainless junkies, and there's your result. Heart goes out to all the families.

boh knows's picture

Generation Y is not Evil. You are ignorarnt to say that. Are you forgetting who operates society the older generation. Keep turning my generation into consuming/videogame head/brainless junkies, and there's your result. Heart goes out to all the families.

Jumbotron's picture

The actual worst school massacre in history:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Michigander's picture

Laws do not change behavior. Laws merely define a punishment for a behavior. There is a distinc difference. Its time to arm the teachers so many wouldnt have to die.

Rustysilver's picture

I am in CT. Every TV station is LIVE.  "Jurnalist" just intervied a kid from school.  People in my state are SICK.

Rustysilver's picture

Apperantly "suspect's brother is being held.

kekekekekekeke's picture

I bought a thousand rounds of ammo and some high capacity magazines before the election because I figured something like this would happen

 

and call me paranoid but really hard to believe all these lone wolf stories

lakecity55's picture

Have you noticed in these events the shooters are always similarly clothed, armed, and die at the end of the event?

There is a similar MO in each crime.

There is an Agenda here, and someone does not mind killing hundreds of citizens in order to seize all firearms and establish some kind of totalitarian state.

 

kekekekekekeke's picture

I totally agree, I think it's bullshit how they're always saying these very men all acted totally alone

kekekekekekeke's picture

my boyfriend heard the news and immediately bought the uzi he's been eyeing 

licutis's picture

maybe if mommy was a better parent and didnt spend all her time caring about other kids little ryan wouldn't have acted out in this way

kekekekekekeke's picture

daddy gets a free pass though right

 

 

Monedas's picture

The worst tragedy in American public education history .... is American public education !     Fucktard Piers Morgan .... DO NOT LISTEN TO CNN FOR 1 WEEK !     OK to skewer babies with coat hangers .... just don't shoot 'em ?  

muppet_master's picture

ryan lanza

= looks like a weed smoking, obama voting LIE-beral.....

its got to be tough for all parents across the country....including me, parent of a toddler.

jplotinus's picture

This one hits close to home. Area is mortified. No words.

Monedas's picture

You don't get the death penalty unless you kill government people and their kids .... the rest of us are on our own !

spellbound's picture

Henceforth only wolves will be allowed to carry weapons. All sheep(le) are instructed to present their weapons to the local gendarmerie.

muppet_master's picture

they ain't taking my GUNS !!

they take our guns = communism = gangaraping-obama style..

by the way...in china the crazies use butcher knives to kill elementary school children.

AnAnonymous's picture

in china the crazies use butcher knives to kill elementary school children.
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Kill, injure, who cares in this 'american' world?

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

AnAnonymous said:

Kill, injure, who cares in this 'american' world?

As long as children are dying, it makes your tiny pee-pee hard.

onlooker's picture

 


There is no wide spread reporting of incidents like this that have been prevented/avoided by school personnel and or law enforcement. A teacher friend of mine in Texas told me a few years back that they had procedures and ran practice of mock incidents on a weekend. This was in response to a school attack in another state. This school is in a low crime area. It may be that schools in different areas have more or less security depending on local crime rates or perceived danger.

 

I suspect there are killing avoidance incidents in large enough numbers that if widely known would panic the population about our unsafe society. Filtered and restricted news about the thousands of killings in our church mouse relative to the South, Mexico, is an excellent illustration. The common bombings in MENA that kill children and all others within the kill zone are non-news.

 

Common sense says that to protect your family, you move to a safe place. This may work better than an unsafe place, but obviously not always failsafe. Unfortunately bad/crazy is currently inescapable.

 

Funding and leadership is lacking at many local levels to provide solution. And, there is NO one answer solution. IMO one of the first moves is more school security. At this financial point this may not be possible, but is affordable valued in the lives of Children as currency.

 

IF we, the U.S.A. issues armed and trained troops across the World to “protect the concepts we hold to be self evident” how is it we can not protect the most innocent and vulnerable of our own body and blood.

 

It may be that States create solutions and share them to arrive at templates of what works. It is unthinkable that this is not currently in play, if not it seems obvious that it should be.


 


 

 

Monedas's picture

Left over from Marc Faber:  "Quickest way to a North Korean's heart .... stab him with a bayonet where his stomach ought to be !" .... Monedas    1929      

falak pema's picture

North Korea in 'Newton' Connecticut? 

Land of golden apples and Eureka? 

Monedas's picture

New North Korean Winter Olympic sport .... shooting starving babies in a barrel between cross country ski treks !  

yogibear's picture

I'm surprised this hasn't occurred at the shopping malls this time of year.  If these nutcases want to make a statement it's a place where there are plenty of people. 

That's why I avoid crowded malls. 

catacl1sm's picture

Are you forgetting the shooting at the mall earlier this week?

falak pema's picture

whatever our convictions - count the pros and cons of paranoid reaction here; it tells its own tale.

This is OUR forum and we must assume its content; not what happened in Newtown.

This is OUR karma. 

In the rational realm, Archimedes invented a concept called "leverage". We see its application in War, in Finance; now we see it in cannibalistic rituals in the hearth and home of our civilization; our primary schools. 

Ask the NRA if ballistic cannibalism is an inalienable right.

'Cos its cannibalism, they ARE us.  There are no Al Qaeda terrorists amongst those primary school kids.

What is the rationale to feed this ferocious beast? 

Agememnon's hubris? 

trav777's picture

Feel free to surrender your guns.

falak pema's picture

I have none to surrender apart from my keypad...

blunderdog's picture

We all hang around an environment as hostile and hateful as this forum HERE and then we see many of the same folks who'd be more than delighted to start shooting their neighbors PRETEND to be surprised to see evidence of hate and hostility writ large in the headlines.

Fortunately, the ZH crowd is pretty fringey.  I don't think most of the populace is *nearly* as angry as this audience is.