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Misery Spread Widely

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Via Gordon T. Long of,

The 'something for nothing' mentality is now firmly in charge in the developed economies. As the G7 economies cascade lower under their past, present and future entitlement & politically connected reward policies, misery is now being spread widely! Misery being spread widely is the product of socialism, as real growth disappears and money printed out of thin air fills in for the lack of real income growth. All of this is paid for by the money you earn and store your wealth in, buying less and less, while your balance in the bank stays the same. The attacks on wealth and job creation are set to accelerate as politicians loot and plunder the private sectors to pay the unpayable promises and support those that don’t produce, by dis-incenting and enslaving those that do. Effectively, penalizing those who lead a prudent and productive lifestyle.

The cynical would argue that the goal is not to spur economic growth and job creation but instead is intended to formant economic collapse, grow government dependence, gather power as the man-made disaster unfolds, take freedoms and redistribute what wealth is left to the special interests in charge. This may very well be true but it could also be a matter of human nature and the generational re-learning of what role a government must be restricted to playing.

"A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it has destroyed itself from within. The essential causes of Rome's decline lay in her people, her morals, her class struggle, her failing trade, her bureaucratic despotism, her stifling taxes, her consuming wars."  – Will Durant, The Story Of Civilization III, Epilogue, 1944

Recent Hurricane Sandy exposed once again the governments inability to execute even its most basic mandate - to serve the people. Grief stricken Americans heard plenty of platitudes by well meaning politicians, but the follow through was as usual found wanting by the destitute. The bureaucracy that the politicians supposedly run, with expanding central planning and control, simply couldn't deliver on its most basic responsibilities. The politicians focused on political goals of power and the redistribution of wealth through taxation, regulation and crony capitalism only add to the growing frustrations with the incompetence, inefficiency and shear neglect of the government. The bureaucrats have consistently failed the people and with their failure so will the healthcare, energy industry and financial systems.  They have failed with the post office, social security, the public schools, medicare, medicaid, energy policy and everything else they have taken charge of in a supposed attempt to serve the people!

Every generation learns these simple truths about governments and central planning, but always fall into the trap of expecting and relying on government versus themselves. The reality is people will sell their freedoms for what they perceive to be safety and security. Predictably and consistently they end up with neither safety not security.

Many have learned through experience that socialism is best defined as "Misery Spread Widely".


Margaret Thatcher in the depths of pulling the UK out of its economic misery pointed out:


"Socialism is about spending other peoples money, until there is none left to spend".

Slowing Credit, CAPEX and Corporate Industrial Production are only three of the 'Canaries in the Coal Mine' that point out that the current bull market in government regulations and uncertainty is stymieing growth, innovation and risk taking. By avoiding and effectively "papering over pain" with unsound money and a litany of transfer payments, it doesn't allow nor force required societal change. It may 'kick the can down the road' by 'extending and pretending' but it only delays the inevitable. A degree of pain is needed to keep a society both healthy & vibrant. Without it you remove motivation and instill complacency, reduced risk taking and Misery Spread Widely.



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Sat, 12/15/2012 - 18:57 | 3067286 I am more equal...
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something for nothing get your chick for free

along with condoms and birth control pills


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:20 | 3067473 max2205
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1592  Pope Clement VIII states that "All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate peoples into a state of poverty, especially farmers, working-class people, and the very poor."

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:36 | 3067771 klockwerks
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Well max, I guess the old pope was just like a lot of people today, stupid

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 00:43 | 3067987 AldousHuxley
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ironically wealth makes people stupid and lazy

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 00:54 | 3068008 grid-b-gone
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Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations.

It all goes back in the box..


Sun, 12/16/2012 - 02:44 | 3068184 economics9698
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I sense one hell of a backlash against the tribe coming.  Don’t think they will be welcome around here anymore, can’t change their name and move to Singapore to blend in, 2.1 billion Muslims despise them, nope maybe it is the end of the world as we know it.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:44 | 3068532 grid-b-gone
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My comments were intended for everyone. Bankers are included, but some of the recent people who should have had it made but blew it include:

Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, Larry Hillblom, Whitney Houston, a recent slew of NFL players, and sports stars in general.

Amy Winehouse even made part of her fortune singing about her upcoming demise. 

Someday there will be a third-generation lotto heir, but I don't think we've seen one yet. 

Lost fortunes are often very public works in process - McAfee, Lohan

For most eroded fortunes, the seven deadly sins waste wealth at a pretty good clip. These days, in the electronic age, it only takes a few first Oxy pills to limit generational wealth to its last generation. 



Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:33 | 3068423 sessinpo
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Not wealth. Ignorance

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:13 | 3068477 max2205
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I thought it was a historical quote worth sharing

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 08:56 | 3068343 tango
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Max2205, Your mentality perfectly fits in with the mindse tof the Dark Ages.  I can see you yelling in the streets during the Black Death, "It;s all the fault of the Jews."  Jesus, you think that kind of attitude vanished in the pre-scientific age yet you use a reference by a man who ran the Inquisition and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of women for the crime of being a "witch".  I'd look for another source.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:14 | 3068481 max2205
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It is a quote. Don't bash me

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:37 | 3068518 General Decline
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I was helping my son study for his 5th grade history test over the formation of the breadbasket colonies. His public school history book said that Jews were not allowed to hold "certain types of jobs" at that time. It gave no further details of what kind of jobs they were talking about. Speculation, anyone?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 14:09 | 3068848 masterinchancery
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They couldn't be agricultural labor under the Tsar.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:12 | 3069595 Lord Koos
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Jews were typically banned from guilds and trades, which is why many of them were forced to find other things to do, such as becoming traders...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:23 | 3068472 Freedomtosayno
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Oh yeah Pope Clement, a beacon of light, truth and freedom. So I guess he'll blame Peter, Paul and Jesus too. sarc/ 

Blame the other fellow (group) classic collectivist crap, divide and conquer used by the enemies of liberty.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 13:08 | 3068724 impermanence
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:22 | 3067477 philipat
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What about my Phone??

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:09 | 3067641 ball-and-chain
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Socialism happens when capitalism runs wild.

The global banking cartel stole all our money.  Now we have to pay for their theft.

The poor are being demonized.

We're called a bunch of takers.

47 percent of us are seen as losers with our hands out.

We didn't cause this depression.

We're the victims.


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:12 | 3067725 TWSceptic
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Socialism happens when capitalism runs wild.


That's the stupidest thing I've read all week. Replace capitalism with democracy or government and you might make some sense.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:22 | 3068066 Lord Koos
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Who the fuck do you suppose runs our "democracy", other than the capitalists?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:25 | 3068360 Slightly Insane
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Pretty sure it's a bunch of folks that follow Karl Marx.  Ever heard of it?  It's the shit that broke up the USSR.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:19 | 3069611 Lord Koos
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Uh-huh, sure, so it's the "Marxists" who control the corporations that bankroll our politicians and run this country? J.P. Morgan, BoA, GE, Apple, General Dynamics, etc.  I'm sure they are all card-carrying party members.  Buy some IQ.  And read some history.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:51 | 3068543 jerry_theking_lawler
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you spoke the magic words...democracy.


our country, aka the united states of america, was founded as a constitutional republic....not a democracy....democracy is MOB rule.

also, along with leaning towards democracy, Amerika hasn't had true capitalism since shortly after the founding fathers were around.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 12:19 | 3068612 FrankDrakman
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If you think Lloyd and Jamie and friends are 'capitalists', you don't know the meaning of the word.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 14:10 | 3068850 masterinchancery
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No, only Marxists and their Crony capitalist bloodsuckers, kind of similar to Mussolini. No real capitalists have any power thanks to our majority of Takers.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:38 | 3067775 klockwerks
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Ball, quite whining and get a job then you won't be a victim anymore. You will join the other 1/2 that supports your lazy but

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:12 | 3068404 economics9698
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1912, the last year of capitalism.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 14:12 | 3068854 masterinchancery
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You are way off, it was 1913!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:48 | 3067797 ZeroAvatar
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ball-and-chain:  did your son get tired again after 5 miles?  Please, spare us?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:21 | 3068064 batterycharged
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I love reading ZH for the ego-centric gamblers take on life.

Apparently people that sit on their ass and produce nothing, but steal wealth with insider trading and stock swaps are "achievers" "job creators" and "producers".

But the guy working 60 hours per week at min wages PRODUCING SOMETHING but living on food stamps is "unproductive" "a leech on society" "a TAKER".

This mentality is why everyone wants to loot the wealthy. BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING ARROGANT AND CLUELESS.

Hey bitch, without those folks working for min wages and no benefits, you don't let your money "work for you". You don't own that fast food chain and make $1 million per year.

You aren't ACHIEVING, you're a fucking THIEF. And you demonize people that ask for health care or some food to eat.

You're a fucking loser.


Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:10 | 3068349 tango
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It's a phony argument.  Nobody on ZH is extolling investment bankers as the virtue of achievement (and you know it).  You're ignoring the real world - some folks dream, take chances, get educated, work harder and become wealthy.  They don't spend their time whining about other people's money, demonizing those who make it or bragging about using food stamps (supplied by those evil producers). Get off the victim bandwagon and stop blaming others.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 12:06 | 3068571 Alcoholic Nativ...
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so you are basically saying, STFU and GBTW.  Got it.  Nice mentality you got there.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:19 | 3068488 max2205
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Fuck you. I say 90% in corp are freeloading at least 60% of the time

Not producing. Trying to figure out how not to get something done that someone asked them to do. It's not unlike govt workers. Except it 95% and 99% in the case of govt

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 12:03 | 3068562 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Good post.  Damn good post man.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 12:29 | 3068632 jal
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" ... pay the unpayable promises and support those that don’t produce ..."

You did mean the "rentiers"

The french took care of that before.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:52 | 3068442 sessinpo
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ball and chain:  "Socialism happens when capitalism runs wild."


And that is where your err in thinking. You see, what most, including you considering your post, is that capitalism is a market force that occurs regardless in every society - even socialism.

You think that socialism is the opposite of capitalism whereas it is not. Socialism is crony capitalism (really fascism) whereas the government gets involved and distorts and manipulates the markets. Capitalism still exists and is in force. For example, if a socialist nation is creating an economic environment that reduces free markets and the ability to profit, the money (usually international) flows to other areas of the world. That is free markets and that is capitalism. It is only those within that crony socialist system that are getting the most hurt. And usually it is the average person because the wealthy within that socialist nation take their money and invest it outside - Capitalism.


You will always be a victim. For some odd reason, you think life if fair and you are entitled. That is why you are seen with your hand out. Get off your ass and work 2-3 jobs like I have when I had too working minimum wage at restaurants. I worked 3 jobs (2 full time and 1 part time) for two years to get my financial situation in order so I have very little sympathy for those that don't care enough for themselves to make their own life better. Why should I care about you when you don't care about you?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 13:46 | 3068812 Woodyg
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When 1% of the country takes home 90% of all new income - and they just happen to be the richest and most politically connected - using this wealth to BUY the Political System its not


Its FASCISM for christ sakes -

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:54 | 3067806 mofreedom
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From the company that brought you:  turn your neighbors American flag upside down...try this.  Go to  Best Buy or Target, somewhere both rich liberals and poor liberals shop.  When rich liberal and poor liberal are both near you, say to the poor liberal:  yo, this rich honky over here says he wants to buy you a tv, bunch of food, condoms, and some nice white tshirts, he's got way enough money, yo.  Then talk to the liberal, and say:

say yo, you say every day you need to pay more in taxes, but you never have, have you, no, that's right you haven't, now pay them now, and you can skip the middleman, now help a brother out.  Now get in your car and speed away.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:48 | 3068378 Cloud9.5
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Once you have looted the mall and burned it down, then where do you go?  March the rich to a ditch and shoot them in the back of the head and take all their wealth.  Most of the money is not real.  You will discover that a piece of leveraged paper is worth considerably less than its face value.  After you have collected up their expensive baubles you will be woefully disappointed.  The whole system is a confidence game.  You stick a pin in this bubble and let the air out, there won’t be enough left to run this sham six months.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 18:57 | 3067290 ISEEIT
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Yeah but North Korea is a real country right? People live there and everything so that proves that central planning actually can work. Ya just need to do it the right way.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:01 | 3067301 Winston Churchill
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We already have our own 'dear leader' ,we are half way there already under  his inspired,

infallible vision.

This message brought to you by the MSM,copyright MSNBC.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:09 | 3067458 Zer0head
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Mubarak slips in prison shower, injured in head

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:45 | 3067524 CPL
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...injures head, salve applied to ass generously.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 02:26 | 3068165 HurricaneSeason
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I think they should do a brain scan and urine test to see if she's faking. Secretary of state is eligible for workman's comp isn't he?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:25 | 3068070 batterycharged
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Yeah, let's ignore most of western Europe that compared to the US is Socialist.

And ignore that for all OECD countries, the US lags those socialist coutnries in health care, child life expectancy, literacy, education and just plain quality of life.


Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:18 | 3068354 tango
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Not sure what planet you're from but every nation in Europe is in DEEP retrenchment on social programs.  They've maxed out on taxes, cut out spending for defense, maxed the credit card and are still drowning.  People used to say Europe was in gradual decline but instead it's more like a roller coaster. Travel Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece or Southern France (away from the tourist traps) and get a lesson.  The level of idleness is staggering, begging, seediness and poverty is astounding. After a while you get tired of the "quaintness" factor.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:49 | 3068447 Lednbrass
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What I find frustrating in the comparison of the US and Europe is ignoring the reality that the US footed their defense bills for the last few generations. If we pull out (and we certainly should) watch them scramble as they have to peel away those social programs to pay for a massive revamp of their miltary forces.

If anyone can find a 67 year stretch in European history free of war as the Pax Americana has been, I would love to hear of it. Any of you enlightened Euro types got anything comparable? What's that you say- no? The peace and prosperity in Europe has existed only because it lives in the shadow of the extremely expensive American sword, yet few of them care to acknowledge the hard reality of that. Unfortunately it has cost the US its future and its very soul as it transitioned into The Empire.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:35 | 3068366 Slightly Insane
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North Korea .... "People live there and everything so that proves that Central Planning actually can work" ..... Pardon me, but I' think that your logic is messed up?  No one in a centrally planned "state" ..... "works". 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 16:56 | 3069192 mkhs
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Yeah.  Starving isn't much of a living. 

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 18:59 | 3067295 ISEEIT
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Plus vaccinations!!

LOTS of vaccinations.

Keeps ya healthy!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:46 | 3067527 CPL
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Have to fight the kids away when the flu shot is around!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 18:59 | 3067297 Hannibal
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I don't need no stinking job!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:27 | 3067362 Race Car Driver
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Fuck happy.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:01 | 3067302 toady
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These things always read like they are surprised, that no one could have seen it coming. The minute I heard 'deficits don't matter' I knew it was just a matter of time. The only people who have a chance are the financial elite that own derivatives, but it's a very small chance, because who will be left to pay when the derivatives are triggered?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:05 | 3067313 q99x2
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Oh boy a revolution is coming. I'm in shape. Time to practice my bugleling. Tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah. That was Reveille in case you didn't recognize it.

Hell yes the banksters are taking the US down. Until you prosecute the fraud we're going down.

This guy sounds like he's suffering from an extreme loss of nepotism. It's in his voice print. He's all sucked up because things are being controlled at the Federal level. He's lost his corner on the market.

But that is what we need. Long live the revolution.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:48 | 3067532 CPL
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Tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah tah.

- Baby's got Back as rendered by ir Mix a Lot on the bugle.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:25 | 3068358 tango
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Why will prosecuting bankers (and I presume you mean Wall Street and not small community banks) help the problem? US citizens vote repeatedly for those who promise more debt. They're quite blatant - "We can't afford NOT to do it" they blab. So why will attitudes change if investment bankers are brought to task? It's a phony argument designed to protect the real culprit, the voters who have knowingly accepted the fix.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:36 | 3068425 Karlus
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The Obamaphone crowd needs someone to blame and it cant be The One or themselves. Bankers and a certain demographic fit the bill nicely.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:55 | 3068455 Lednbrass
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It isn't an either/or binary problem, it is all of the above.

The banking/financial sector leeches and the hordes of urban fleas and ticks need to be removed or the host that actually produces things in the US dies- they all feed on the productive private sector. And yes, its going to be ugly but it must happen.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:08 | 3067319 A Lunatic
Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:29 | 3067368 Race Car Driver
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Fuck privacy.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:27 | 3067623 duo
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the more data they collect, the less they will be able to discern something useful from it.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:09 | 3067819 A Lunatic
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When everything is a crime they won't really have to.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:25 | 3068072 Lord Koos
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That may be true, but a more useful result might be the ability to instantly dig up dirt on just about anyone, when needed.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:15 | 3067333 Klazy Plick
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Do, do, do, da, da, da is all I want to say to you.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:16 | 3067335 LetThemEatRand
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This article is painful.  Socialism?  Try fascism.    They really are not the same, and the solutions to fixing a system broken by socialism are quite different from fixing a system broken by fascism.   I think it is a fair statement that socialism in America is also a problem because the welfare system is broken, but it seems clear to anyone who wants to look that it is fascism that is destroying our country from within and without.  400 people do not have more wealth than one half of the country combined because of socialism.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:27 | 3067365 Yen Cross
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I told you, that I liked your comments several months ago. Apparently other posters agree? Keep up the good work!

  Golden Krugerrands ;-)

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:58 | 3067559 Oldwood
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Socialism is not a destination, it is a vehicle and in this case a means to an end. Class warfare is being used to justify centralizing control. The tools of wealth redistribution have never ensured fairness, only the power to do so. Fascism is the same. Power being allocated to big business as an effort to again centralized power. The simple fact that government forces business to be their tax collector, all of course for the cause of efficiency, is just another indicator. The fewer rich, the fewer businesses, the easier to control.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:37 | 3068367 tango
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Perfect!  You have captured the real heart of the matter, eliminating the phony socialist/fascist conflict that so many ZHers think is so important.  In the end, it's all about control.  Because nothing will bring Nirvana, regulation, taxes, security and favoritism always require more of the same in increasing doses. When crises (caused by State policy) occur, the State gets to assert more control.  It's almost childishly predictable  because it's a mindset and not a structured plan.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 09:42 | 3068375 Slightly Insane
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Well, this is the last stage .... kill Capitalism.  They've already destroyed the education system, the monetary system, the (populist) media, and society in general.  This cannot possibly end well.  Perhaps Rand was right.  When the takers out number the makers ... you've got a problem on your hands.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:21 | 3067733 TWSceptic
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Socialism and fascism are both descendants of collectivism. Call it what you want, the main problem is a too big and out of control government. The solution isn't democracy, we've tried that and things keep getting worse. The solution lies within the constitution, for those who still care.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:24 | 3067843 Bindar Dundat
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If Socialism soves Capitalism than Facism solves socialism? 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 02:58 | 3068199 been there done that
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I have listened to a lot of Gordon's shows w/ Ty and they do use the "F" word; Fascism to describe what we have.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 08:48 | 3068338 Dick Buttkiss
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Fascialism --

In whatever form it takes, the state can kiss my ass.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:57 | 3068459 sessinpo
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LetThemEatRand:  "400 people do not have more wealth than one half of the country combined because of socialism."


I don't even know why people bring this up since historically, in every form of government and economic system (that isn't some small tribe hardly touched by what we consider civilization), there are the elite that control the vast majority of wealth. In other words, when you take that fact, all this nonsense about the top 1% or whatever is not relevant. They were there thousands of years ago and guess what, they will be there in the future even if there was a revolution, even if the economic or political system was changed.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 16:35 | 3069139 Dick Buttkiss
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As Bastiat rightly said: "The state is that great fiction whereby everybody tries to live at the expense of everybody else."  And as history has gone out of its way to prove, this is always a disaster for the people, even if (especially if) they are able to vote themselves money, as the resulting welfare state turns out to be anything but.

The only solution, then, is to eradicate the state itself, which will begin in ernest when the American state collapses and the worldwide "devolution revolution" is thereby launched:

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:31 | 3068463 Lednbrass
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Do you have any hard evidence whatsoever that in Fascist systems 400 people had accumulated more wealth than half of the country?

I know that you don't, because neither example of Fascism in the 20th century produced such a class- what we have in the US is something different. That label does not fit well at all, neither Fascist Italy or its similar spinoff in Germany produced a similar group.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:26 | 3067344 Kamehameha
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Bullish on Bubonic Plague

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:19 | 3067347 Vidar
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The productive need to stop producing any excess, refuse to work any harder than necessary for survival, and avoid paying taxes in any way they can. Only when the hosts reject the parasites will we be free of the state and all its evils. Take your money out of the banks and the "markets", buy guns, gold, and ammo.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:20 | 3067351 Harry Dong
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Misery isn't being spread widely enough, I'd say. Time to eat the rich.  I hear they taste like bacon! And you either love bacon or you're wrong.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:01 | 3068465 sessinpo
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And I hear the Occupy group considers you rich. Can they get a side of potatoes when they fry you up? See the problem in your thinking?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:28 | 3067366 wisefool
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There are poor and there are poor in spirit. An 80,000 page tax code accomodates both.

Education is the best accomodation for old age.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:31 | 3067369 Chupacabra-322
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Father of Alleged Connecticut Shooter is VP of GE Capital: Report

According to ABC and Yahoo news, the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza. Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.


Another report from Stamford Advocate says Peter Lanza is vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services and also an adjunct professor a Northeastern University in Boston since 1995. The facts have been sketchy and changing from hour to hour.

After 28 years of marriage, Peter and Nancy Lanza divorced. Nancy Lanza was found shot at her home. A source told The Post Ryan has told investigators he last saw Adam in 2010 and that Adam is autistic.

The tragedy is also being politically exploited for tighter gun control. If they ever get guns banned in the U.S., the politically unfavorable will be quickly rounded up and we will get a Soviet style authoritarian system magnified by 100. It is not the guns doing the shooting, but the people. Some of the “leaders” in the U.S. want to get the guns away from the citizens. I don’t know what the answer is to the violence that permeates the United States, but it is likely a symptom of a very sick society. Nobody is shedding tears for the thousands of children who die from U.S. bombs. A nation that exports violence around the planet with an elite core of individuals that profit from it, is destined to be troubled domestically. It’s a karmic certainty.

Obama’s tears

Are Obama’s tears fake like some people are suggesting? Obama has no compunction to order bombings all over the place which regularly kill civilians including children. He also authorizes the killing of Americans, so it’s very hard to believe that his tears are real, although anything is possible in this strange world.


Pssst, word on the street is the father is vice president for GE energy financial services and is going to testify in the LIBORgate trail soon.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:39 | 3067392 falak pema
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this story is getting more and more freudian; son has guilt pangs of mom's guns and father's financial hanky panky ?

And takes it out on his memories of youth, to erase his past and also the school class?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:58 | 3067433 A Nanny Moose
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vice president of taxes

Is that even a real title? Or is the media writing/fucking up the narrative...again?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:57 | 3067556 Chupacabra-322
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Is Peter Lanza sheduled to testify in the Libor investigation? Is Holmes and the Aurora incident tied to the Libor investigation? Why does Libor keep popping up?

Holms father is also some type of Bankster or Financial analyst.  All tied into LIBOR.  These shootings have CIA False Flag written all over it. 

The whole Global Criminal Economic system is tied into intelligence/espionage and murder.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:02 | 3067566 Chupacabra-322
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G.E.? That’s Rothschild owned. Here’s part of an article from the NY Times, June 25, 1967.

Financial specialists have noted the family’s increased interest in African mineral wealth over the past 10 years. With other banks, they have formed companies to exploit Saharan oil (Cofirep) Cameroonian aluminum (Cofimer) and Mauritanian iron ore (Miferma). They have retained long-term holdings in nickel, Katangese copper and oil (they are large shareholders in Royal Dutch). In 1959, they formed a company called Sitetec, which invests in American companies such as Eastman Kodak, General Electric, Bendix and I.B.M. They also control a Canadian holding company, Five Arrows. Through another holding company, SAGA, they control 20-odd shipping companies, many of which operate between Europe and Africa. As Guy explains: “Being in shipping leads us into related businesses, like harbor installations. We are methodical. We look for what we already know. Actually, we feel that the Compagnie du Nord controls too few businesses.”…….In the 19th century era of nationalistic revolutions, the Rothschilds showed that the bankers of monarchies could become the bankers of republics. They became Europe’s Friendly Finance Company (lol) with influence so great that no major credit operation seemed possible without them. They exercised a virtual monopoly on government loans, 80 per cent, and underwrote government bond issues. They were on familiar terms with the great statesmen. Metternich himself, the coachman of Europe, borrowed 900,000 florins at 5 per cent in 1822.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:15 | 3067638 duo
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Lenin didn't shed tears for the 20 million killed during the Bolshevik revolution.  His agenda was served.

The same for Stalin, for the 30 million killed during the purges and forced collectivisation.The agenda was all that mattered.

Obama/Soros have an agenda.  Enough said.  A few drops of saline solution in each eye...roll camera.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:07 | 3067815 lakecity55
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The father of Holmes, in Aurora, was to testify in LIBOR.

There are no coincidences.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:22 | 3067836 Chupacabra-322
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No, Peter Lanza is sheduled to testify in the Libor investigation sometime in the future.  Holmes father is some bankster or financial analyst tied into the LIBOR scandel. 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 04:06 | 3068243 IrritableBowels
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This would be a little strange if there were, hypothetically speaking, another incident where the accused was directly related to a connected financial bigwig. Like say if the shooter's dad was a guy who spent a few years at HBC and FICO and who developed algorithms concerning fraud and credit risk models and who was also supposed to testify in the LIBOR hearings. 


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:43 | 3067374 falak pema
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its getting very trendy to quote Maggie...don't you find MAggie's farm reality and City casino a bit of a honest man's slaughterhouse and a white washed oligarch's haven of financial mayhem?

Mr Gordon T Long, you are strong on socialism, but the story of first world since 1981 has NOT been socialism, its been Maggie's farm and Ronnie's pig sty.

At least they laid those golden eggs of fiat mayhem then and called it Big Bang Deregulation.

Why this fascination for socialism? Remember what happens when Oligarchs are given the keys by State (R & M tap dance show) to the private run economy model, and drive it into the ground?

Like after 1929, government has to step in to clean out the mess. Nobody else there; those private shills just lock up their Caymanista cupboards. We are heading there again, for the same reasons.

Unless you can tell us how to pull a rabbit out of our collecitive hats! 

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:34 | 3067378 alfbell
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Durant might as well have been talking about the USA. We can check off all those requirements for a decline as accomplished and now we are just gonna spend the rest of our time amplifying them until the USA goes from once being the super power to an empty shell of a once great nation.

Luckily massive empires, due to their size and momentum, die slowly —like the Roman Empire. It sure gets nasty in those last stages of decay though. It won't happen in my lifetime (I'm 60) or maybe the next generation or two's lifetime. Probably another century and this country will be a total basket case.

Next lifetime I think I'm going to pick a baby body in a weathy family in Singapore.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:39 | 3067386 Waterfallsparkles
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Always think of Dr. Zhivago.  Where he returned home to find his Wealthy Family in a small room in their Home.  They could not have heat but a few hours a day and scavenging wood for heat was a crime.  Which he found out the hard way.

When he asked what happened the Controller of the House said the house was to big for his Family and others needed accommodation as everyone had to be equal.

Then when he and his wife went to the Retreat they once owned they could not enter.  They settled for a while in a cottage that was not taken over by the State.

Americans need to watch Dr. Zhivago again to see what is coming.

That is where we are headed.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:34 | 3067645 duo
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+1000.  The best line:  "This is the last half of the last cigar in all of Moscow".  Dr. Z's dad lighting up a butt in the one room of their former mansion they were allowed to live in.

We all will live to see a day like that.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:40 | 3067395 Yen Cross
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 What happened to Intrade? Oh that's right, they got blocked from American Markets about 1 month ago...

 We can't have any hedging when interest rates are pushing negative yields on short term notes!  Prohibition part deux/

 Needed, 200 kids to run numbers ASAP! Youth unemployment rate 20+%   ( Being sarchastic)

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:47 | 3067415 sbenard
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One of the best books on political economy I've ever read:

We have our work cut out for us!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:51 | 3067683 Bastiat
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I approve this message.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:47 | 3067416 Waterfallsparkles
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The biggest problem is that there is no consequence for the people in power.  They will be exempt from any negative effects of Socialism.  They will only gain power and Money.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:54 | 3067427 Vegetius
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As in 1929 we have the Elite writing cheques they would not honour. With the Soviet experiment we had the Elite there doing the same, now we have these fools thinking something will turn up and save them from the cheques they have written. Same old song but differing tunes, unfortunately we have crossed the Rubicon and it is too late to turn back there will be Blood and the bullshit graphs that Goldman’s and the rest of the gamblers produce are so much hot air.

Just do the math people, numbers do not lie, (people- food – energy – supply – finance) and to be honest they stopped adding up about 1990-95. We are living on borrowed time so enjoy, when she blows things will get interesting.

 The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.
- Vladimir Lenin

(Just for a change from Margeret)


Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:08 | 3068474 WTFx10
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"Our culture has been trained to look down at those poorer than ourselves and scrutinize them more closely for such infractions on the slave work ethic. That way we aren't looking higher up the ladder to see who is defecating on us. It's a nice trick that works well for the owners and their minions."


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 19:54 | 3067428 alfbell
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I disagree Waterfallsparkles... they are on the same bus, train or boat as we are. We will all go down. This is structural and systemic. Destructive intentions cloud intelligence. They may last a bit longer but not that much.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:21 | 3067752 infinity8
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I sure "hope" you're right.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:04 | 3067444 goodrich4bk
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WTF is this author talking about?  In the past 30 years, the top 1% has seen its wealth increase over 350% and the bottom 90% have seen no gains at all.  That is a FACT.

Over the same time period, the percentage of GDP going to profits has increased by the same amount as the percentage going to labor has decreased.  That is a FACT.

Now, don't get me wrong.  I will never support socialism outside of the limited safety nets we presently have in place.  But hardly any of the 90% are asking for socialism.  Rather, we are demanding the end of plutocracy.  We are asking for a level playing field.  We are asking to compete on the merits, and not against de facto Chinese slave labor, immigrant Mexican labor and overpaid government labor.  We are asking that criminal behavior be punished regardless of the social or economic class of the criminal.  We will sacrifice for the good of the next generation, but we have no interest in cutting SS we paid for just so we can continue to support a bloated military, a corporate farming system, a pharmaceutical oligarchy and a legions of undeserving bureaucrats.


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:27 | 3067485 Meatballs
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Well said ++

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:32 | 3067862 PositiveFeedback
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Well said. I wish they stopped posting this disinformative shit altogether, and do some fact checking on their posts. See also my post below.

Almost seems like ZH abstains from encouraging some real debates in fear of getting pulled from the air...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:03 | 3068030 StychoKiller
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47+Million EBT cardz sez there's a flaw in yer logic...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:29 | 3068080 Lord Koos
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Have any of you ignorant mofo's every heard of the working poor?  "Takers" my ass.  The men at the top are the takers.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:06 | 3068470 Lednbrass
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A flea that takes a single drop of blood from its host is as much a taker as the leech that takes an ounce; the difference is one of degree.

Both are still parasites.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:09 | 3067452 Waterfallsparkles
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The problem with the Government handing out benefits is that the Government is anonymous.  In the ole days when a beggar came to someones door and received food he appreciated the gift and the giver felt that he did something good for someone else.

Today everything is sterilized so that the receiver does not even acknowledge or understand that their benefits come from some one else, instead of the Government.  This way the Tax payer does not get any satisfaction out of giving to some unknown person.  The unknown person does not think that anyone else had to pay for their benefits.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:37 | 3067499 Waterfallsparkles
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I had a homeless man come by my house every day.  He always had a rake or a snow shovel over his shoulder.  I always made him breakfast.  If there were leaves on the yard he would rake them.  He seemed to look forward to comming by and I felt good feeding him.  It also was great that he raked the leaves or shoveled the snow.  I also used to give him a few dollars once and a while or pack him a lunch.  There was a mutual appreciation of each other.

It worked so well.  But, somehow it does not feel right for the Government to take your Money to give to someone that you do not know or who does not even appreciate your gift.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:45 | 3068441 Karlus
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You are missing the point...the idea is they are going to give that guy part of your house.

Imagine you are a farmer. The govt shows up on day during the harvest and not only takes a good portion of your yield, but introduces you to some new families that will now own and plow half your fields....because its "fair."

They have a need, you have stuff...,get it now?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:44 | 3067885 PositiveFeedback
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True that. If some of that precious advertisement space/time in the media would be used to spread awareness of the workings of these mechanisms and their benefits, we could have less of that I suspect.

Imho the smart use of 'propaganda' and its benefits is what we in the West have forgotten, or what we were afraid of using because of its associations with communism. But really the advertisement industry is exactly that: propaganda for a consumerist lifestyle. Time to reclaim some of that public space for spreading awareness I say ...



Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:27 | 3067487 Waterfallsparkles
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Does seem odd that now we have Tax the Wealthy.

More and more people opting to stay on Unemployment instead of working.  More people qualifying for food stamps.  Welfare rolls increasing.  More people claiming disability, including our Veterans. More people claiming Social Security Benefits at 62 and not waiting for full retirement.

It appears that Obama's message is getting out.  It is better to be on Government support than supporting yourself.  Guaranteed checks and income.

But the Wealthy can move and do when there is over taxation.  Who will be left to support all of those millions of people?  Can they print enough money to support a whole Nation of dependents?



Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:31 | 3068085 Lord Koos
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You do understand that there are no longer enough jobs to go around?  What part of that do you fail to understand? Ever heard of offshoring, you nitwit?  The meme that everyone who is unemployed are too lazy to work is complete horseshit.  Most people out of work would LOVE to find a decent job.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 08:32 | 3068324 Waterfallsparkles
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There are plenty of jobs around.  Just ask an Illegal Immigrant. 

What you are basically saying in my opinion is that there are not very many jobs around that pay high wages.  Like before.  That I will agree with.  Yet, because there are not very many high paying jobs, people elect to stay on unemployment or try to collect disability.  That way they do not have to work or can collect benefits and work on the side.  I would bet my bottom dollar that if you followed a laid off worker around every day you would find them working side jobs for cash under the table while collecting unemployment.

I also would point out in your own post your statement of "WOULD LOVE TO FIND A DECENT JOB.  So, basically you are contradicting yourself.  By using the word DECENT, I believe that you would not take a job you felt below you or your current or prior pay scale.

I believe the Job demand today is in fields like Plumbing, Electrical, Septic Cleaners, Roofers, Heating and Airconditioning repairs and Home Improvement.  Although, most of these professions require education in their specific field and with some requiring being a low paid Journeyman for a while, until you can get a liscense.

Another field is sales.  A good Sales Person is worth their weight in Gold.  If you are on Commission you will earn what you are worth every day.  If you are not good you will not make very much but if you are good you make lots of Money and can write your own ticket.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 08:43 | 3068329 tickhound
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Well don't hold your breath.  Those low paying service jobs are awaiting the automation train... Automation would be BULLET trained if the lack of consumer spending, lack of loan demand, and government wasn't there to put up a temporary road block.

See McD's in Europe, Hostess, the latest union squashing efforts?  The klepto-poli-left WILL eventually lay down for it too in the face of unprofitable multi-nationals, believe you me.

AND now with ZIRP tied to the unemployment rate?  You think JPMorgan wants to borrow at anything HIGHER when it can't pass a 3 or 4% loan onto its own customers?  You think the multi-nationals want to borrow at higher interest rates right now?  The INSIDE lobbying for an unemployment rate remaining ABOVE 6.5% in the face of inevitable automation is already underway, I'm sure.  Actually, no lobby necessary... as its probably already assumed.  You think JPM gives a shit at .5 billion in profits last year from EBT?

The "Just get a job" or "suck it up" meme is getting old and ultimately won't fix shit. 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:09 | 3068473 Lednbrass
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You dodged his point- nothing he mentioned can or will be automated.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 14:04 | 3068814 tickhound
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You know, interestingly enough, I missed the last couple/few paragraphs waterfalls typed.  Either I outright didn't see 'em, or they were edited in while I was typing mine up.  I saw no jobs listed in the post I was replying to... ended with "decent jobs para." 

And I'll admit I wouldn't have bothered saying anything at all if I'd had seen the last paragraphs.  So I'm down with YER SMACKDOWN.  ITS KEWL.

But, be careful predicting technology... and what, and what is not, possible.  Most of those jobs can ALREADY be auto-performed.  Maybe just not practical/cost-effective...... yet.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:49 | 3068448 Karlus
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Preezy is giving you something better than a job. Free stuff just for being you and working. Its the New Math. Working is so 2008.

As for outsourcing and local illegals, once they can vote, they too can get in the tent.

Rich? Or thought to be rich? Oh wait, you are a private employer? Get in this line to get fleeced. You didnt build that after all, the workers did. You didnt build it = you dont own it = we are going to give it to someone who votes for us.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:28 | 3067490 Yen Cross
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 All for one, One for all!!!  Drink up Bitchez

 That was the moral of this story...

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:30 | 3067491 mumbo_jumbo
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the first paragraph is got me laughing....all the jobs were sent to China cause of liberalism!!!


you're fuking funny man!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 11:19 | 3068487 Lednbrass
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Well, it was Clinton who signed NAFTA and the China deal which put a pair of torpedoes into the side of the US ship and the Unions went along with him and backed both. Combine these with the repeal of Glass-Steagall and it could be well argued that Clinton did more structural damage to the US economy than any other president in history.

Strangely enough, this reality is ignored by the supporters of Team Blue today.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:31 | 3067493 besnook
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this is mostly bs. some of it was even contradictory.

socialism is not the problem. what these and others call socialism are anti riot programs. look what has happend in europe once these programs are threatened. the purpose of these "socialist" programs is to keep the people happy while their wealth is looted by the .1% insiders who dictate the economics and politics of the world. its kind of like a burglar giving the watchdog a bone while he takes the family jewels(lol) and silver.take the bone away and the people get agitated. the only reason to get the people agitated is to take freedoms away but they have other ways to agitate the people to do that like bombing buildings and killing kids, the bogeyman strategy.

these giuys are party hacks who have no clue what is happening

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:39 | 3067512 mumbo_jumbo
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100% correct!!!!  i love the give the watch dog a bone part!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:54 | 3067548 Yen Cross
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Mumbo_Jumbo (neighborhood  watch) gone serfing!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:52 | 3067546 Yen Cross
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Socialism is exactly the problem/ CalPers Employee retired at 55 asshole , living off of kelp!  ya you  besnook douche bag!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:06 | 3067577 besnook
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what are you doing here? i figured you would still be pounding your pud over the euro ramp. what happened? did you give yourself a blister when you ran out of k-y?

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:48 | 3067661 Yen Cross
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 I'm just displacing the returns of ( ZIRP) via your buddy ( Moon Beam Brown)/ Lets ta;lk

 I'll rip you and your cohorts into " distended assholes" in a Z/H tread! Bitchez/

 Mind you I'm 3/4ers expatriatriated BITCH!

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:14 | 3067734 Atomizer
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Piss off besnook, read my question to you below

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:10 | 3067821 Yen Cross
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besnook is a retired( life coach) Atomizer/

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:00 | 3067563 Atomizer
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Perhaps you can help your fellow comrade who had earlier been swimming around inside his father’s scrotum during the cold war. Somewhat witty to view something enlightening ahead of my birth. Yet, it tells anonymous secrets in which we unmistakably understand today. I'll pay you on Tuesdays for a reply today..

More Deadly Than War - G. Edward Griffin

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 23:18 | 3067822 besnook
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where to begin. most of it is too stupid to comment upon. do you know what made the usa the greatest nation in the world? why it was held in awe for most of it's existence minus the last 40 or so years? 2 things. the first one is the fragmentation of .gov power into several parts meant to counterbalance each other's quest for power. why is that important? it is important because the aquisition of power is the sole goal of .gov. by fragmenting the power of .gov the idea was to limit or, at least, inhibit the attainment of power. the second most important thing was the simple concept of innocence until proven guilty putting the onus of responsibility on .gov to prove your guilt. this idea was coupled with certain limits on the power of .gov to prosecute you for notorious abuses of .gov, the bill of rights. nothing like the .gov organization of the usa had ever been adopted by any .gov in the history of mankind. it was/is a real application of utopian philosophy. neither concept is true in practice anymore.

the role of any .gov organization is to consolidate power. the name of the organization of .gov really doesn't matter. if anything assigning a name is counterproductive. it doesn't matter if it is called communist, socialist, democratic or a republic or an oligarchy or a monarchy or fascism, it is simply .gov. the communists aren't undermining the usa, a la griffin. .gov is undermining the usa as it undermines every country in the history of the world. in an interesting irony, marx was right about the self destruction of capitalist systems(forced by the market due to excesses allowed by systemic abuse, i.e., fiat currency) but his utopian solution of communism is, in fact, in practice, a feudal system with total centralization of power by design which is the ultimate natural goal of .gov anyway. when you understand this concept you understand what is happening to you today in the usa. what is the ultimate .gov? one world .gov. so fuck your communist, socialist, fascist, democrat, republican, left, right labeling bullshit. there is only one enemy, .gov. power trumps money because if you have all the power you have all the money. we are at the end stage. money(oligarchs) have melded with power(.gov) to bring you a shit storm whether by frog in a warming pot or at the point of a .gov gun. one morning you will wake up boiled with a hole in your gut and your dumbass will be screaming, "you fucking socialist!" the saving grace might be that the west collapses and your new master may be china so your scream will be the ultimate irony.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:14 | 3068050 Yen Cross
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 Hey besnook, Just one Question?

   Any time/ any place. thanks for your time mate.... Don't fall over

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:37 | 3067509 mumbo_jumbo
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i just can't read this diatribe without laughing my ass off......the jobs left (well except for the most favored industry of them all...well 2 actually...real estate and banking) and what we have now is the result of that.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:44 | 3067519 alfbell
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Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:59 | 3067562 Yen Cross
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ditto +1

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:47 | 3067531 I am Jobe
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Pretending  USSA is an advanced Economy is a crock of shit. Never seen so many fucking inbred fucking Trailer Trash in North Amerika. Amerika gives a new meaning to fucking inbreds.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 20:56 | 3067555 LawsofPhysics
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Another article that confuses socialism and FASCISM. It also ignores the underlying energy issues and lack of any real consequences for bad behavior. No worries, when all the paper promises die, the laws of Nature and physics will fix this. They always do and that which cannot be sustained, won't be.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:01 | 3067565 I am Jobe
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Bend over fucking sheeples. U think very many sheeples waching this or wtf is going on, no, they are busy fucking shopping and giving bj's and trying a new profession, being a hooker

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:38 | 3067571 NuYawkFrankie
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Re. The 'something for nothing' mentality is now firmly in charge in the developed economies


Yes - Let's Get Rid Of The R-E-A-L WELFARE QUEENS.... the Blood-Sucking WALL  STREET Parasites.

And yes - Buffet, Immelt, Schmidt & other tax-evading scum-bags  - the term "PARASITES" includes YOU.


Sun, 12/16/2012 - 01:17 | 3068053 Yen Cross
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I hear ya New Yawk frankie/ You have made some kind comments/ Not forgotten ;-)

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:05 | 3067574 LawsofPhysics
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People need to rethink "wealth" and "value". I know many who are compensated with many paper promises for their "work" but whose job is nothing but paper pushing. Fuck them. They won't last a day when this bow breaks. Then maybe compensation will return to those who are actually worth a shit. Can't happen fast enough for me.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:06 | 3067575 ZeroAvatar
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Let me see:  We have the last 4 years of economic non-growth caused by O'bummers spread-it-around socialist agenda (which hasn't even ended yet!). 


Now, we also have the next 4 years.  On top of the damage already done to the economy, the next 4 years will have businesses folding, people taxed out the yang-yin, and pain and printing and government spending and, well, DAMAGE!


It's going to be at LEAST a DECADE AFTER Obeyme leaves to even START turning things back around.


We are so fucked.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 22:40 | 3067781 lakecity55
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O-Phone has no plans to leave office.


Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:09 | 3067585 Yen Cross
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 these F..King (  entitlement babies )  

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:17 | 3067595 ZeroAvatar
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Four moar years of EIGHT years of economic destruction.  These NEXT four will EXPONENTIALLY exacerbate the prior damage.


Then, 10 or 15 years to 'repair' the damage?  Let's see, what year is this, 2013?  (Close)  So, say, 2028 before we can hope to see reality in the financial markets?


It's no wonder today's youth goes out and dispenses their anger at the end of a .223.


I sorta feel like doin' it myself, sometimes!


(Note to Homeland Security:  No, this is not an acknowledgment of pending homicide.   I am simply a U.S. 'citizen' who is expressing in words, in a blog forum, my unhappiness with the way our country is headed.  No need to send a guy to knock on m

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:33 | 3067643 buzzsaw99
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The attacks on wealth and job creation are set to accelerate...

Stopped reading right there. The job destroyers created wealth for themselves and poverty for the nation. Pure tripe.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 21:44 | 3067666 Yen Cross
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 Buzz ROCKS!

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