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Depardieu 'Shrugged'

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Via Emmanuel Martin, Executive Director of
the Institute for Economic Studies-Europe (www.ies-europe.org) and editor of www.LibreAfrique.org.,

Last week the big story in French headlines has been the tax exile of Gerard Depardieu in Nechin, Belgium, half a mile from the French border. French PM Jean-Marc Ayrault called the French movie star’s behavior “minable” (pathetic). A socialist MP, Yann Galut, even suggested that M. Depardieu loses his French nationality. In an open letter in the Journal Du Dimanche on December 16, Depardieu, who famously starred as Obélix, the big Gallic fellow of Astérix, carrying menhirs on his back – and sometimes throwing them at the Romans, replies. With a taste of Ayn Rand’s famous character John Galt. Gerard shrugged.

Depardieu begins by saying that what is pathetic is to call his behavior pathetic. Although he does not want to justify the many reasons of his choice, he makes it clear that he leaves after paying 85% of taxes on his income this year and € 145 million through his entire life; He leaves because the French PM thinks that “success, creation and talent, in fact difference, must be punished”. He then reminds Jean-Marc Ayrault that he set up companies that employ 80 people. Depardieu says he is ready to give up his French passport and his “Social Security” (the French public health care system, which he claims he never used).

This letter is important.

First because thanks to a top actor, the categories of incentives and unintended (though highly expectable) consequences will probably enter the “consciousness area” of a statist French political class (right and left alike). Imposing a 75% income tax above €1 million does have consequences on the incentives of the rich and creative people. Mr Hollande and his team might call it “just” because, as the French President once famously said, he doesn’t “like the rich”, the fact is that one does not promote economic progress by hitting the creative and successful minds. Those are obsolete collectivist policies based on envy and scapegoating: they are only effective at creating division and killing the goose with the golden egg, that is, generate more poverty. Not exactly “just” in the end.

Second because Depardieu stresses the fact that he is a European, a “citizen of the World”, and remains a “free man”. He is effectively saying that thanks to globalization we are free to escape a government’s crushing fist. Institutional competition, and especially tax competition is an essential feature of our liberty: it is crucial that people can “vote with their feet”. Of course European politicians, French ones especially, are too eager to suppress this liberty – again in the name of justice, harmonization, equality, solidarity and what have you. What that story also tells us is that should Europe become a “giant France”, it would be doomed. Unfortunately, recent efforts in the direction of more EU centralization do not carry optimism.

Now, to be completely fair on that “Depardieu shrugging”, the tiny issue is that state subsidies to the film industry in France probably indirectly helped the man to become famous and rich, even if overall he probably paid a lot more that he received, and in the end owed much to his personal talent. Not a pure John Galt then. But a good start.

 

 

Open Letter to French PM Jean-Marc Ayrault (from Gerard Depardieu):

You say "pathetic"? As it is pathetic.

 

I was born in 1948, I started working at the age of 14 years as a printer, then as a warehouseman as dramatic artist. I always paid my taxes regardless of the rate under all governments.

 

At no time, I have failed in my duties. Historical films I participated reflect my love of France and its history.

 

Most illustrious characters that were expatriates me or left the country.

 

I unfortunately have nothing more to do here, but I continue to love the French public and with whom I shared so many emotions, I'm leaving because you consider that success, creativity, talent, actually The difference must be punished.

 

I do not ask to be approved, I could at least be respected.

 

All those who left France were not insulted as I am.

 

I do not have to justify the reasons for my choice, which are numerous and intimate.

 

I leave after paying, in 2012, 85% tax on my income. But I keep in mind that France was beautiful and I hope will remain.

 

I give you my passport and Social Security, which I've never used. We no longer the same country, I'm a true European, a citizen of the world, as my father has always taught.

 

I find pathetic the hard justice against my son William judged by judges who condemned any kid to three years in prison for two grams of heroin, when so many others escaped prison for acts otherwise more serious.

 

I do not blame all those cholesterol, hypertension, diabetes, or too much alcohol or those who sleep on their scooter: I'm one of them as your expensive media like both the repeat.

 

I never killed anybody, I do not think unworthy, I paid 145 million tax in forty-five years, I have 80 people working in companies that were created for them and which are managed by them.

 

I am not to complain or to brag, but I refuse the word "pathetic".

 

Who are you to judge me so I ask you Mr. Ayrault, Prime Minister Mr. Holland, I ask you, who are you? Despite my excesses, my appetite and my love life, I am a free being, sir, and I'll be polite.

 

Gérard Depardieu

 


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Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:36 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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Belgium rocks!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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Tell that to german millionaire Fabian Thylmann, who was arrested in Belgium on orders of Merkel's Gestapo. His crime: not paying "taxes" to the vierte reich.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fabian-thylmann-the-ruler...

Expect Depardieu to receive the exact same treatment by the Vichy regime.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Keep kicking " caveman ass".

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 23:41 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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when the tax rate is 90%, that just motivates people to work ever harder in order to retain that 10%. 

forward!

and also .. endeavor to persevere! 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 00:50 | Link to Comment macholatte
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The unspoken words of the taxman...... deductions, deductions, deductions.

 

Before Regan there were deductions that caused people to "invest" because of tax implications.  There was an entire wall St industry dedicated to it. It will happen again or the dreams of the socialists will vanish like the people they try to tax.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Taxes are for naught. It's not as if they couldn't just print the shit as they do in the States. JPM said that the raft of government spending programs is completely covered by fed purchase of their debt. Fuck, those ass hat government drones don't even have to turn up for work and they could still spend us into misery and get paid. It's us v them now.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 08:03 | Link to Comment piliage
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Well...belgium's individual tax rates on wages are insanely high (close to 62% when all the local taxes are figured in for the employer). What this means is a working person, who is paid 26 euros an hour on the budget of the employer, will only see about 11 or 12. Then every year there is an 'extra' month (summer vacation) so you end up paying 13 months of salary and yet higher marginal taxes. It's odd to say the least.

However...

Belgium is a VERY hypocritical place, so whilst they tax the hell out of wages on working people who increasingly have less and less disposable income as the economy stagnates, corporate taxes are only around 30%, and there are no capital gains taxes. Obviously, the wealthy do very well in Belgium.

So, I assume Depardieu is incorporated as an independent company, and takes some of his wages in 'shares' of the ownership of the production. I'm sure he can cut back his tax rate quite a bit in Belgium.

What is being missed in all the talk of France's 75% wealth tax, is the new law in France raising capital gains and dividends taxes to 60%. That is what is driving all of these people to leave France. Holland is, frankly, a moron.

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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The rich are always different.  Their money gives them choices.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment CPL
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Because they were smart enough to recognize opportunity.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Banjo
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They are not always smart, often times there is a healthy dose of luck. I have a family member that took no risk stayed in the one (very big) company and got 1.4 million dollars as a bonus (ended up in he executive ranks) This was then used to buy investments including business the rest as they say is history.

At least thats once success story in my family others are doing great very successful compared to the articles you see with average American having 50K saved in 401K however the family member that got the share options is totally blitzing it compared to the rest and quite honestly it's nothing about meritocracy, risk or opportunity it's just one path taken on the road.

Small story of perhaps getting to the top 2%. I would rank myself somewhere in the top 10%.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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Regardless of how one got their money, if done legally, what business is it of yours or mine? Jealousy creeps up in sidious ways.

To much attention is focused on the wealthy. They are not the problem. The best way I know that is because it's what the MSM is selling you.

Heck, even ZH is selling banner advertisements that have this mentallity.

 

 

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:34 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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That's why the banks and financial sector have made corruption and theft legal.  No recourse, click a button, add another trillion, pay me my bonus.

When evaluating people I tend to look a bit closer at the true value of their labor.  How about letting the bad ideas and bad management fail for a change?  Novel concept I know, but then compensation might actually return to people who are actually worth a shit.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment ball-and-chain
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That filthy French ardvark has to be the worst actor on the planet.

Plus his English sucks.

Nevertheless, I don't blame the guy.

70 percent is unreal.

Peace.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2012/12/yesterday-i-hiked-ten-miles-through.html

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Johnny G.
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re: his English sucks

He writes in French you idiot.  It's the translator/translation that sucks.

Tue, 01/01/2013 - 16:56 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Now that made me laugh.  +1

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Banjo
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Correct and if we legally change the system to re-distribute wealth, we as in our community that works for me and millions of others we just have to use the democratic process and make sure it's all legal.

I'm sure you across the principles of Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan where we as a society give up freedoms and rights for the greater good all legally of course. The ironic discourse in American politics seems to view their freedom's as unlimited the reality is far more nuianced.

The pendilum has swung towards a minority all legally of course and I believe it will swing back all legally.

 

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:40 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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"I believe it will swing back all legally."

--------------------------------------------------------

History is not on your side.  Once moral hazard has been left unchecked for a generation and there are no longer any real consequences for bad behavior it becomes impossible to put pandora back in the box without a sufficient sacrafice.  We could start prosecuting fraud at all levels of society and start holding people accountable, but then those in power would have to indict themselves.  None of this is really about money, it's about power and control.  Same as it ever was.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 02:10 | Link to Comment Jon Bong Jovi
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Any schmuck can make it, the real test is keeping it.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:08 | Link to Comment rehypothecator
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Money turns problems into costs.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:41 | Link to Comment chubbar
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The gov't parasites aren't going to like that reply. I predict a hot tub accident or sudden heart attack momentarily.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:42 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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What's his tax rate in Belgium? 70%?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Close to 58%. Been there. Waiting for Amerika to follow the footsteps , won't be long.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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You sure?  I have a buddy working there (American). He got married to a Belgium chick and has been there for several years. He got called in this year and the Belgium gov't told him he was now a Belgium tax payer. His tax rate is 56% and he don't make Depardoodie money.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:15 | Link to Comment zilverreiger
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2012 income tax

 


Belgium: 

Bracket 5 (highest):    > € 34.330        50 %

 

 

Netherlands:

Bracket 4 (highest)  > € 56.492       52 %

(Capital gains fixed 1.2% over principal)

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:18 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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thanks for the info

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:21 | Link to Comment zilverreiger
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there may be extra special taxes when you earn millions but I dont have info on that rigth away

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment Dr Benway
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Yes, just because your entire industry is state subsidized and under heavy protectionism doesn't mean you can't hypocritically denounce taxes after you made it.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Unlike the Trailer Trash in the USSA they are much more polite.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Matt
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Did he denounce the taxes at all? He did not go into details for why he left. He simply mentioned that he has paid an amount of taxes over his life, has created jobs for 80 other people directly, and paid 85% income tax last year.

It is not hypocrisy to say that some tax is ok, but too much tax is too much. Which he did not actually say.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Dr Benway
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He was made and paid by a socialist system, then denounces socialism after he makes it, and its somehow not hypocrisy? Ok.

Look, you libertards do this quite a bit, don't you? You admit that the entire system is corrupt and banksterized, yet somehow rich people in this system are 'producers' and superheroes and not just succesful leeches. Lol make ur mind up.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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This is the mind of the left. The only honorable conservative is one who refuses to participate in the corrupt economy, instead demanding to live in poverty. We can be taxed our entire life, resisting and resenting it, but out of ideological thinking, we should refuse anything from the social system and demand to starve, regardless of how much we have been forced to contribute. And of course, if someone is successful, it is not due to their work or talents, but a gift from the State that they should be eternally thankful for and to. Afterall, they didn't build it...but oh, I forgot, that's not what Obama meant when he said that right? But you did.

Tue, 01/01/2013 - 16:46 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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very nicely put...well done.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Jreb
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Your last name wouldn't be Obama would it?

We do not choose where we are born. Many of us are not rich. Many of us are hard working middle classed people who are watching our wealth and therefor our lives being squandered by the banks and their political henchmen. I have a nasty degenerative bone disease (I have never missed a day of work because of it) and I have no choice but to accept the help of our socialist medical system - or else I would suffer the consequences and my business would suffer - possibly fail. A lack of choice - even in instances where state "help" appears beneficial does not represent hypocricy. It represents a form of slavery.

 

A rat in a cage that builds a beautiful nest for itself but is fed and watered by its owner is not a hypocrit. It labours within the boundaries provided by its poltical master - its owner - at the point of a gun.

 

Good Dr. - one of these days the rats will tire of the cage.

 

Good for Mr. D. I hope many others follow his lead.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Matt
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Please show a citation where he denounces socialism.

The only complaint I see is where he states he feels that putting his son in jail for years for having a few grams of a controlled substance is excessive.

The rest of it, he says he will not go into personal details, he makes statements about what he has paid in taxes and what he has done for his country, he highlights that many other rich people have moved to Belgium but only he was singled out, and he feels outraged that his free choice is being called "pathetic".

Please work on your reading comprehension, cut back on the personal attacks, and maybe the quality of your writing will improve.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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I paid 145 million tax in forty-five years

 

Look at the greedy rich man!  Get him!!

and for the all the spectators/s

p.s. I am a man of very limited means but I agree with Gerard Depardieu

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment samcontrol
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he should of left France for south america decades ago like i did.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:56 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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85% is outrageous.  We should all agree with him.  39%? ... not so much.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Legalize pot and tax the producers 85%.  LOL!  The dopers in Nor Cal were complaining to the LA Times that competition is lowering dope prices and they cannot take nice vacations.  Their "organic" pot can no longer command premium prices due to competition.   It was hilarious.  I bet these dopers paid zero tax too.

George Harrison wrote Taxman because they were in something like a 90+% tax bracket in the UK (Labour Party) as Brian Epstein was also ripping them off. 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:00 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Feel free to contribute what ever you think is fair. Its a free country afterall, right?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment machineh
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Need a link to the original French version ... this is a weak translation.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Andrew Jackson ...
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http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2012/12/16/gerard-depardieu-rend-...

He's right to stop financing that bande d'enculés de frans-maçons pro-sionistes de merde.

Scuse my french, burp.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment frenchie
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bien vu

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:55 | Link to Comment ajax
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Thank you machineh !!!

I'd also like to point out out that "minable" doesn't mean "pathetic".

Try "shabby".

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Increasing tax rates, decreasing revenues. The Laffer curve's a mathematical bitch that the politicos just don't get, until it rears its ugly head on the bottom line...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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The Laffer curve's a mathematical bitch that the politicos just don't get,

They get it. This is about power, dependency and the power in perpetuity that can accrue to the immoral, soulless Kenyan.

FORWARD SOVIET!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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Complete that thought and realize it is not just the Kenyan or the left that want dependency.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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I don't believe most kings and autocrats ever worried about bestowing benefits on anyone who could not reciprocate. Its about power and the control of wealth, even if they don't have it all in their immediate grasp, if they can control how the remaining wealth is used, that is almost better. Its always good to have someone to blame for society's ills. Bankers, anyone?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Hulk the scholar?  I like it! The blackbirds are working the pomegranets along my fence-line? Got any ideas Hulk?

 My

Jalapeño peppers are in season/  I leave for a month, and the worms are killing my Geraniums?
Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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Kill the geraniums, the worms will die.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Shotgun with birdshot YC. The BB's will get the idea and go somewhere else.

Neighbors will probably head south too...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:48 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Socialism Rock. Just look at Amerika. Free Phone, EBT, Free Hosuing to pop kids and more benefits.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment IllusionOfChoice
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Damn sexist if you ask me. Half of us can't pop kids!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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My, the old Socialist just discovered who has to pay for all the fairy dust retirement and unicorn hand-outs.  Wait till the middle class here finds out... And that moment is right after they have been rendered neuter because B-Rock gave away the candy store to reliable votes before they felt that economic shiv in their ribs. Hope! Change! Yes We Can! 

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:50 | Link to Comment SkiBivio
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I don't think his being "rich" has a lot to do with things.  What makes Depardieu "different" is the fact that he can escape a regime of tax aggression by travelling a mere few miles.  Any Frenchman, rich or poor, can do that, LEGALLY.  That is something that NO American, rich or poor, can do, without the long arm of the IRS reaching out to crush your balls.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:54 | Link to Comment samcontrol
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i don't get your point, if some american leaves the Us for Brazil never to come back the irs will get you ? lol.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Nadaclue
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First, if you are a US citizen, no banks in Brazil will give you an account and if they do, they have to deduct 30% to remit to the US Gov, which you then have to prove is not laundered money. Plus, they will deny you an account as the reporting requirements are onerous, by design. If you have a few hundred million, there are many ways around that though. So now you've got 30% less of your money, even if you wire a bank to transfer funds for property purchases. This means if the property's cost is $100k, the money you wire is only going to the seller as $70k. Pony up bub.

Second, as long as you are a US citizen, you are required to pay taxes on earned income over the poverty level no matter your worldly location.

Lastly, as there are many other issues but, I'm drinking Irish Coffees and I don't want to drone on, the only way out of the US Gov stranglehold is to renounce citizenship. To do so requires a passport from another country.

The minimum and cheapest ways take 3-4 years to secure another passport. DR for about $6-$9k. The expedited ways are quite expensive. Take St. Kitts for example, $100,000 fee gets you a passport in a week or two. I believe that is an annual fee but I could be wrong. If you got lots of dough, no biggie for the time it will take to get a permanent passport from elsewhere. If you're a peon like me, way to onerous.

Lots of issues in what you've brought up. It can be done through the Caymans and such, but that also takes lots of dough.

Once digital money only is introduced, ferget about it. The US already has Capital Restrictions over $10k so unless one gets on a sailboat with Gold, has an alternate passport and an ability to keep their mouths shut, one is stuck in the USA Gov money fuck.

This is only my opinion from what I've read. Anything under $500k ain't worth taking the route, imho. The Corporation of the USA owns your ass but that is a whole other post. You do realize you're a Corporate asset don't you? Look into it.

Of course, this being the interwebs, I could be totally full of shit...

Thank you for your time. Good day Sir, Im back to my Irish coffees whilst the snow falls. Loverly, actually.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment SkiBivio
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Not to mention that one is (legally) forbidden from renouncing one's US citizenship, for the purpose of escaping the tax aggression. And, if one does so, I believe one is liable for US tax, even living in Brazil, for something like the next 6 or 10 yrs. If Chucky "Wall Street Darling" Schumer has his way, one will have to pay a hefty fee, for the privilege, as well. Cheers. Enjoy the Irish Coffees. Drinking is the best thing one can do related to this topic.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:00 | Link to Comment Texas Ginslinger
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"...so unless one gets on a sailboat with Gold, has an alternate passport and an ability to keep their mouths shut, one is stuck in the USA Gov money fuck."

Interesting that you should mention the sailboat escape plan.  Yachtworld.com has endless listings of blue-water sailboats. 

If you go the sailboat route while keeping citizenship, keep in mind that the US Coast Guard can board any US flagged vessel anywhere at any time, without a search warrant.    

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:44 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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"unless one gets on a sailboat with Gold, has an alternate passport and an ability to keep their mouths shut"

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check, check, check, and check.  This is the retirement plan.  Brother is already on the south island in New Zealand.  was going great until that horrible boating accident.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:38 | Link to Comment seek
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Thanks to numerous treaties and the tentacles of the US that have invaded international banking, yes, the IRS will get you.

There are thousands of US citizens with swiss bank accounts that discovered this fairly recently. The only out is to pretty much drop off the grid, which precludes a lot of employment options.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:20 | Link to Comment SkiBivio
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Many middle class expatriates have (had) Swiss bank accounts for their pensions, health insurance or maybe a mortgage there. If they do manage not to have the accounts closed, they have to sign over authority for the bank to give the IRS account data (for the IRS to use as they see fit), waive jurisdiction of Swiss law over their accounts and file, with the bank, an IRS Form W-9, for each and every account / accountholder. FATCA, aka Obamacare-in-action.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Martin T
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http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/rightsof.asp

Declaration of the Rights of Man - 1789 - France

12. The security of the rights of man and of the citizen requires public military forces. These forces are, therefore, established for the good of all and not for the personal advantage of those to whom they shall be intrusted.

13. A common contribution is essential for the maintenance of the public forces and for the cost of administration. This should be equitably distributed among all the citizens in proportion to their means.

14. All the citizens have a right to decide, either personally or by their representatives, as to the necessity of the public contribution; to grant this freely; to know to what uses it is put; and to fix the proportion, the mode of assessment and of collection and the duration of the taxes.

15. Society has the right to require of every public agent an account of his administration.

16. A society in which the observance of the law is not assured, nor the separation of powers defined, has no constitution at all.

17. Since property is an inviolable and sacred right, no one shall be deprived thereof except where public necessity, legally determined, shall clearly demand it, and then only on condition that the owner shall have been previously and equitably indemnified.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment falak pema
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politics at its worst; french farce and freedom fries burnt for the sake of socialist populist cries.

Show me a statist charlatan I'll show you a man who pulls his pants down to the totalitarian meme : Mr Ayrault.

European law as the french constitution says this guy is just blowing up his ass. 

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:33 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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There's quite a few things in Europe that are not the same as they were envisioned in 1789, or 1848, or 1945...

Democracy as a cornerstone of politics is no longer applied by a bottom-up decision process; nowadays we are (yet again) ruled by an elitist class of political "aristocrats" imposing freevolous "taxation without representation";

Hobbes nailed it long ago - If you let Leviathan sing lullabies to the sheep, he grows big and strong.

May God help us all, cause this story is not going to have a happy ending...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:06 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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too bad he isn't smart and incorporated like usa maggots or he would own all the politicians by now.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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Depardieu is selling 50 Million euro home in Paris but rides a 50cc scooter. I don't think his a bourgeoisie.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment ajax
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@Rustysilver: you don't know what he "rides" and that photo in the article is taken from a recent film "Mammouth" about a French guy going into retirement required to prove his net worth. See the fucking film - ooops, you live in America - fat chance. Stay home ok but shut up.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Habyarimana
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Once a young congolese boy told me in one of the suburbs of Kinshasha : "Monsieur, soyez le bienvenue et revenez avec beaucoup de plus..."

Let them all come to Belgium !

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Frog does taste a little like chicken/ My digestive tract is slow----   That was one of the best articles ever/

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:16 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Le shrug, mon ami...lol.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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nmewn gets it! A good man you will always be +1

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Joe A
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He can always apply for US nationality as a sort of a ironic continuation of that horrible movie Green Card that he featured in. Of course, as a US national he would always have to pay taxes to the US wherever he lives but at least it won't be 85%.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:22 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Yet

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Got Milk?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Next week maybe.

It was a good letter.  The guy has paid tons of taxes and the leftist French govt and govt newspapers call him a scumbag.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment Joe A
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True indeed.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:25 | Link to Comment YesWeKahn
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After all the rich people leaving France, who will finance the governement? How they gonna pay for all the social stuff? I bet you that they will start taxing foreigners like hell.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:00 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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hmmm... and all the rich 1% in america paying for all the social stuff, good gracious-- who will support the rich? a symbiotic paradox wrapped in a homonym-comb'd-riddle have we?!  

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:28 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Gerard can go blow Severin.

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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What does Johnny Depp think about this ????

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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johnny deep has lost his depth... the guy sold-out!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:37 | Link to Comment AvenoSativo
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My impression is rather that the rich French are doing this "Depar(t, a)dieu, France" act to take a position and make a statement because they are really angry at the current state of their homeland. Depardieu does state that "we no longer have (share) the same homeland ('Nous n'avons plus la même patrie')". They still hold their homeland dear.

They don't really gain much monetarily by moving their official residence from France to Belgium. If they only wanted to save money, they'd have moved to real tax havens such as Singapore, Hong Kong, etc.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Super Broccoli
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Next time you want an accurate french translation ask me ...

 

Hey Gérard, welcome in Belgium ! (by the way our gov is stupid, bankrupt and socialist as well :-)

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Lokking4AnEdge
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If you are Jewish you can get an Israeli Passport at no cost. You need to show that your mother was/is Jewish. It takes about 3 months from the time you submit the paperwork. You don't even need to visit or reside in Israel....

 

Je suis trop bavarde......

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:52 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Depardieu has done much more for the world than that hack Hollande so Hollande should STFU.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 18:54 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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Depardieu made a mistake of doing this publicly. Unless French government release the information. French gov doesn't care what one Frenchman does. When a million French do it than it becomes a problem.

Always stay below the radar beam.

 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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Not only will we take all your yearly earnings, but you now must pay us 1Million Francs to remain in France!  This is very reasonable Mr. Depardieu, after all, we are the government and we know best!  Sacrebleu, Mr. Depardieu, this is a good deal, no?

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:09 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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dire au revoir Côte d'Azur Hopefully Tyler will allow this dialect?
Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Ménage à trois

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:50 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Atomizer/ you horn dog.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Meatballs
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Galt stupidity? What has this guy 'produced' exactly? I'm not saying I blame him for 'voting with his feet', I just find the continued glorification of a fictional character from the mind of a complete douchebag fraud who was happy to take SS and Medicare profoundly stupid. Moreover, 'celebrity' is overrated. What do you really know about the character of Depardieu? Nothing. 

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 23:42 | Link to Comment Johnny G.
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He had the balls to leave...publically.   And then pen a letter to the "president" in a newspaper which was published in full.  See if you can get the NYT to do that for you.

Plus it's not that easy to become a celebrity.  You should try to be famous and see how that goes for you.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 01:32 | Link to Comment Meatballs
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Not interested in any way. thanks.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 19:20 | Link to Comment q99x2
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They need to get some mathmeticians and physicists in over there and re-capture all the wealth that has been stolen from them by the Rothchilds and Rockefellers and quit the pussyfootin around.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:03 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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The most ridiculous part is that globalization and an eventual one global government, taxes will be designed in a way that no matter where you go, you will be taxed appropriately.

A truly centralized global government will take your freedom away to find the best tax situation for yourself.

For example, we have all heard of the US corporate tax rate compared to other countries. Well, at some point they will all be synchronized so that no nation has the advantage and no corporation or person can try to take advantage of lower rates, thus no reason to move.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:05 | Link to Comment ForTheWorld
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In what could be mistaken as a line from Animal Farm, Mr Ayrault had this to say...

"Everyone loves him as an artist but paying your taxes is an act of solidarity and patriotism."

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/depardieu-to-renounce-french-c...

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment nmewn
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A Prime Minister, deriving income from the state, trying to invoke a patriotic guilt trip among the taxed...seems slightly self serving...lol.

Yep, won't be long now.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Missiondweller
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Gerard Depar-ted!

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment fijisailor
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Despite being socialist France is still more just than the US where the .gov thinks it has the right to tax you no matter where you work and live.  The US govt want you to believe they are omnipotent.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Jeepers Creepers
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I applaud what Depardieu did.  What is the saying, "Evil prospers when good men do nothing"?

An 85% taxation rate is straight up evil, and the only way to shut it down is to leave.  Did these Socialist idiots really expect everyone to just take it lying down?

What's even more disgusting is, countless studies have show that over-the-top tax rates like this actually decrease revenue for a ntion, but the Pinko rats don't care.  To them, this has nothing to with budget policy and everything to do with sick class warfare and envy.

 

How sad is it a man that a man has to flee his home because the parasite class won an election and needed a scapegoat.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment smacker
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I doubt if rational comments made by Gérard Depardieu to French socialists will have much effect. Instead of re-thinking their bizarre tax punishment plan they're just as likely to cohort with the Belgiums to find a way of punishing Gérard Depardieu in that country too: "We must close tax loopholes." Success must be punished. It's a lifelong goal of socialists. If that means destruction of the economy and society, so be it. It'll be rebuilt in their likeness which is what they want all along.

And it should be noted that things in France were never much better under the Little Man in Paris: Sarkozy. He was always labelled a French Conservative (on the Right would you believe), but was always a big-time statist too. The mindless political morons in Europe have zero idea of what a Right Conservative is.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:55 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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If I were Gerard Depardieu and the Belgium government came after me I'd sell all my assets, convert it all into 100 euro notes, go to the top of the of the Eiffel Tower and throw them off. Then I'd go on French public assistance.

Miffed:-)

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 06:48 | Link to Comment smacker
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Throw 100 Euro notes off the Eiffel Tower...?

They'd probably arrest you for throwing litter. ha-ha. ;-)

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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Many of the wealthy in France are actively planning to leave.

Unlike the "entities" divesting from gold, they are trying to figure out how to dump their multi-million euro estates quietly and for the best price. It's not a flood/panic yet, but it is coming.

I'm a low life from the states and don't know any of them, but I do mingle with the serfs that shovel their stables.

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment Slightly Insane
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An otherwise appropriate response to a Socialist Government Thief ...... "I've paid enough"

Sun, 12/16/2012 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Northern Lights
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I've only ever seen one Gerard Depardieu film that made it to the movie theatres here in Canada.

It is called "My Father the Hero" and stars Gerard along side a very young Katherine Heigl (13 years old?).

It's a comedy about a divorced father trying to re-connect with a daughter he barely knows as they go on a father/daughter vacation to St Martins, or somewhere like that.

Was actually quite funny and enjoyable.

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 03:03 | Link to Comment resurger
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Who are you to judge me so I ask you Mr. Ayrault, Prime Minister Mr. Holland, I ask you, who are you? Despite my excesses, my appetite and my love life, I am a free being, So if you want drama, fuck you and your motha fucking moma'z!"

85% of his income! JESUS!!!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 05:25 | Link to Comment etresoi
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Allow me to explain how things are in France. There are two economies, the visible taxable and the less visible tax free, where one learns to be 'small.'

I have never met Gerard Depardieu but his vineyards are adjacent to mine, in the Rhone Valley at Malleval.  In many ways, and by temperment, he is too 'big' to hide. So his wines goes into the AOC system and by the time it goes past all the skimming middlemen, which includes the French and US governments, you pay $50 to$60 for .75 liter. 'Small' producers of the same wine sell VRAC to anyone who shows up at the vineyard with a container and cash.  The same wine goes for €2 per liter and the 'small' producer nets more income.

The 'small' shopkeepers are very careful not to get too 'big.'  They do this by having no employee and limiting their hours.  The more prosperous they are, the less open hours.  This is why tourist are frequently complaining that the shops are closed.

A local farmer produces 80 tons of pumkins each year.  He reports 20 tons to stay within the system and sells the other 60 ton to vendors, who resell at street markets and who pay him cash. The dairy farmer sells his quota of milk at fixed prices into the system, every liter over quota get converted to butter or cheese and sold at the farm door.  The whey gets fed to the pigs, which get processed into sausage as soon as the weather gets cold. 

A consumer has a choice of going to the big box supermarkets and buying shitty factory food that is almost as bad as American food, or going to the producer and buying artisanal quality, for less cost.

There is built into the French system a disincentive to succeed and/or innovate.  It take almost a year to get past government restrictions on opening a business and more than a year to sell it.  If one does become a business owner, one must pay into the social security system but one is excluded from it.

Gerard Depardieu, reportedly has 80 employees.  If he does, he can not fire them, he must pay for all their social benefits, including health care and retirement,  They get five weeks paid vacation, seventeen paid holidays, six months paid maternity leave, and paid for a thirteen month year.

I very much enjoy being an expat in France but I would never want to be a business owner nor have a single employee.

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 06:32 | Link to Comment FunkyOldGeezer
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Poor guy works 45 - 50 years and hands over 65% in taxes throughout. He barely lives. Rich guy generally hands over less as a percentage (although it may add up to many millions) and still lives high on the hog.

What's the big deal here, with the rich guys? They just can't stomach the thought of millions being paid in taxes. They're basically just greedy MoFos.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 05:42 | Link to Comment Rodders75
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Pity the French translation is so bad...

Tue, 01/01/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Frastric
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One flying menhir coming DC's way...

From Belgium with love...

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