Mike Bloomberg Calls For Ban On Assault Weapons

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In the least unexpected news of the week, Mayor Mike, whose forays into central planning started with banning sugary sodas, and then proceeded to gas rationing, has just done what everyone expected him to do, and demand a ban on all assault weapons:

  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR ENFORCEABLE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR PASSING GUNS CHECK ACT
  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR MAKING GUN TRAFFICKING A FELONY
  • MAYORS AGAINST ILLEGAL GUNS TO SEND VIDEO STATEMENTS TO CONGRESS

We eagerly await the imminent escalation: the "taxable inhalable oxygen for those making over $250,000 - it's only fair act" to be proposed by Mayor Mike and his central-planning enamored brethren in D.C. next.

From AP:

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and dozens of shooting survivors and victims' relatives are calling on Congress and President Barack Obama to tighten gun laws and enforcement.

 

The mayor was appearing at City Hall Monday with 34 people whose own lives or the lives of their relatives have been affected by gun violence around the country. They're sending videos to lawmakers telling their stories.

 

Bloomberg has long been an advocate for tougher national gun regulations. He has found himself at the forefront of a re-energized push for gun control since Friday's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school.

 

He says the carnage "demands immediate national action."

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Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:44 | 3071754 fuu
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Don't you have some government sponsored research to do?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:47 | 3071782 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Increasing your carbon footprint again, I see. Why do you believe that your desire for a salty treat is more important than the destruction of our living and breathing Mother Earth?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:53 | 3071818 Flakmeister
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Don't you have some cherrypicking to do, what with the new IPCC draft available...

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:56 | 3071837 CrockettAlmanac.com
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My cherries ripen in the first or second week of June. Those who look at nature realistically know this.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:21 | 3072630 Flakmeister
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Like these people:

From http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

1950–1959 -0.020 °C

1960–1969 ?0.014 °C

1970–1979 ?0.001 °C

1980–1989  0.176 °C

1990–1999  0.313 °C

2000–2009  0.513 °C

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:29 | 3072658 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The science is settled. Even the formerly pro-AGW crowd has come around to reality.

 

'I made a mistake': Gaia theory scientist James Lovelock admits he was 'alarmist' about the impact of climate change

 

 

  • British scientist admits he had 'extrapolated too far' in earlier book
  • Claims other environmental commentators such as Al Gore did the same

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134092/Gaia-scientist-James-Lov...

 

 

 

Scientist who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague

Prof Judith Curry, who chairs the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at America’s prestigious Georgia Institute of Technology, said that Prof Muller’s claim that he has proven global warming sceptics wrong was also a ‘huge mistake’, with no  scientific basis.

 

 

Prof Curry is a distinguished climate researcher with more than 30 years experience and the second named co-author of the BEST project’s four research papers.

‘This is nowhere near what the  climate models were predicting,’ Prof Curry said. ‘Whatever it is that’s going on here, it doesn’t look like it’s being dominated by CO2.’

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-c...

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:58 | 3072753 Flakmeister
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Still peddling that bullshit...

Since when did James Lovelock become a climate scientist?  His opinion is marginally more relevant than Rush Limbaugh...

You cling to Curry like a drunk clings to a lamp post...

I agree the science is settled and Curry is on the wrong side...

PS Why do you never link a scientific study or a peer reviewed paper? I mean Curry has to have something that backs up what she says? The only thing I can find with her name is the BEST stuff which concludes we are warming and it is manmade... 

You gotta bring more to the table than newspaper clippings from a Rupert Murdoch rag....

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:15 | 3072831 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Since when did James Lovelock become a climate scientist?

 

There you go denying reality again.

 

A lifelong inventor, Lovelock has created and developed many scientific instruments, some of which were designed for NASA in its program of planetary exploration. It was while working as a consultant for NASA that Lovelock developed the Gaia Hypothesis, for which he is most widely known. He also claims to have invented the microwave oven.[6]

In early 1961, Lovelock was engaged by NASA to develop sensitive instruments for the analysis of extraterrestrial atmospheres and planetary surfaces. The Viking program, that visited Mars in the late 1970s, was motivated in part to determine whether Mars supported life, and many of the sensors and experiments that were ultimately deployed aimed to resolve this issue. During work on a precursor of this program, Lovelock became interested in the composition of the Martian atmosphere, reasoning that many life forms on Mars would be obliged to make use of it (and, thus, alter it). However, the atmosphere was found to be in a stable condition close to its chemical equilibrium, with very little oxygen, methane, or hydrogen, but with an overwhelming abundance of carbon dioxide. To Lovelock, the stark contrast between the Martian atmosphere and chemically dynamic mixture of that of our Earth's biosphere was strongly indicative of the absence of life on the planet.[7] However, when they were finally launched to Mars, the Viking probes still searched (unsuccessfully) for extant life there.

Lovelock invented the electron capture detector, which ultimately assisted in discoveries about the persistence of CFCs and their role in stratospheric ozone depletion.[8][9][10] After studying the operation of the Earth's sulfur cycle,[11] Lovelock and his colleagues developed the CLAW hypothesis as a possible example of biological control of the Earth's climate.[12]

Lovelock was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1974. He served as the president of the Marine Biological Association (MBA) from 1986 to 1990, and has been an Honorary Visiting Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford (formerly Green College, Oxford) since 1994. He has been awarded a number of prestigious prizes including the Tswett Medal (1975), an American Chemical Society chromatography award (1980), the World Meteorological Organization Norbert Gerbier Prize (1988), the Dr A.H. Heineken Prize for the Environment (1990) and the Royal Geographical Society Discovery Lifetime award (2001). In 2006 he received the Wollaston Medal, the Geological Society's highest Award, whose previous recipients include Charles Darwin [4]. He became a Commander of the British Empire CBE in 1990, and a member of the Companions of Honour in 2003.

As an independent scientist, inventor, and author, Lovelock worked out of a barn-turned-laboratory he called his "experimental station" located in a wooded valley on the Devon/Cornwall border in the south-west of England.[13]

On 8 May 2012, he appeared on the Radio Four series "The Life Scientific", talking to Jim al-Khalili about the Gaia hypothesis. On the programme, he mentioned how he had a claim for inventing the microwave oven. He also mentioned how his ideas had been received by various people, including Jonathan Porritt.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock

 

 

And, Flak, it was only last month that you called James Lovelock the closest thing to a white wizard of the modern age.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:37 | 3072918 Flakmeister
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What exactly is your point? Do you have one? Or is this just another evasion of the question?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:57 | 3072972 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Dude, you asked what made Lovelock a climate scientist and I cited his many inventions, studies and awards. That was the answer. I don't know how you could have missed it.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 19:47 | 3073118 Flakmeister
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And I asked you about Curry and all I got was crickets...

And still you obfuscate...

When James Lovelock retracts a peer reviewed published paper on his predictions for the climate in ~2100, I will take note and not until then...

Could you provide me a list of papers by Judith Curry that support her position? Until then don't waste our time with newspaper clippings...

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:00 | 3073135 CrockettAlmanac.com
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When James Lovelock retracts a peer reviewed published paper on his predictions for the climate in ~2100, I will take note and not until then...

 

 

The man publishes an op-ed for maximum public exposure in admission of his errors and you continue to deny reality.

 

 

a list of papers by Judith Curry

 

 

2011

Liu, JP, JA Curry, et al.: 2011: Evaluation of satellite sea surface temperature in the Southern Hemisphere using Chinese Antarctic research cruise observations. Int. J. Rem. Sens, 32, 171-184.

Liu, J., J. A. Curry, C. A. Clayson, and M. A. Bourassa, 2011: High-resolution satellite surface latent heat fluxes in North Atlantic hurricanes. Mon. Wea. Rev. accepted

Curry, JA and PJ Webster, 2011: Climate Science and the Uncertainty Monster. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., in revision.

Curry, JA, 2011: Reasoning about climate uncertainty. Clim. Change, submitted.
2010

Liu, JP and JA Curry, 2010: Accelerated warming of the Southern Ocean and its impacts on the hydrological cycle and sea ice. Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci., 107, 34, 14987-14992.

Romanou, A., G. Tseloudis, CS Zerefos, JA Curry, et al.: 2010: Evaporation-precipitation variability over the Mediterranean and the Black Seas from satellite and reanalysis estimates. J. Climate, 23, 5268-5287.

Belanger, JI, JA Curry, PJ Webster, 2010: Predictability of North Atlantic tropical cyclone activity on intraseasonal time scales. Mon. Weather. Rev., 128, 4362-4374.

Webster, PJ, J. Jian, TM Hopson, . . . JA Curry, et al., 2010: Extended-range probabilistic forecasts of Ganges and Brahmaputra floods in Bangladesh. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 91, 1493l-U121.
2009

Khvorostyanov, VI and JA Curry, 2009: Critical humidities of homogeneous and heterogeneous ice nucleation: inferences from extended classical nucleation theory. J. Geophys. Res., 114, D04207.

Kim, HM, PJ Webster, JA Curry, 2009: Impact of shifting patterns of Pacific Ocean Warming on North Atlantic tropical cyclones. Science, 325, 77-80.

Khvorostyanov, VI, JA Curry, 2009: Parameterization of cloud drop activation based on analytical asymptotic solutions to the supersaturation equation. J. Atmos. Sci., 66, 1905-1925.

Khvorostyanov, VI, JA Curry, 2009: Comment on “Comparisons with analytical solutions from Khvorostyanov and Curry (2007) on the critical droplet radii and supersaturations of CCN with insoluble fractions” by Kokkola et al. (2008). Atmos. Chem. Phys., 9, 6033-6039.

Belanger, JI, JA Curry, CD Hoyos, 2009: Variability in tornado frequency associated with U.S. landfalling tropical cyclones. Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L17805.
2008

Agudelo, P.A., C. D. Hoyos, P. J. Webster, J. A. Curry, 2008: Prediction skill of intraseasonal variability of an operational model in a serial extended forecast experiment. Climate Dynamics, 32, 855-872.

Morrison, H., J.O. Pinto, J.A. Curry, and G.M. McFarquhar, 2008: Sensitivity of modeled arctic mixed-phase stratocumulus to cloud condensation and ice nuclei over regionally varying surface conditions. J. Geophys. Res., 113, D5, D05203. (pdf)

Inoue, J., J.A. Curry, J.A. Maslanik, 2008: Application of Aerosondes to melt-pond observations over Arctic Sea ice. J. Atmos. Oceanic Tech., 25 (2): 327-334. (pdf)

Wyser, K., C.G. Jones, P. Du, E. Girard, U. Willen, J. Cassano, J.H. Christensen, J.A. Curry, K. Dethloff, J.E. Haugen, D. Jacob, M. Koltzow, R. Laprise, A. Lynch, S. Pfeifer, A. Rinke, M. Serreze, M.J. Shaw, M. Tjernstrom, M. Zagar, 2008: An evaluation of Arctic cloud and radiation processes during the SHEBA year: simulation results from eight Arctic regional climate models. Clim. Dyn., 30 (2-3): 203-223. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, Vitaly I., Curry, Judith A., 2008: Analytical Solutions to the Stochastic Kinetic Equation for Liquid and Ice Particle Size Spectra. Part I: Small-size fraction. J. Atmos. Sci., forthcoming. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, Vitaly I., Curry, Judith A., 2008: Analytical Solutions to the Stochastic Kinetic Equation for Liquid and Ice Particle Size Spectra. Part II: Large-Size Fraction in Precipitating Clouds. J. Atmos. Sci., forthcoming. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, Vitaly I., Curry, Judith A., 2008: Kinetics of Cloud Drop Formation and Its Parameterization for Cloud and Climate Models. J. Atmos. Sci., forthcoming. (pdf)
2007

Khvorostyanov, Vitaly I., Curry, Judith A., 2007: Refinements to the Köhler's theory of aerosol equilibrium radii, size spectra, and droplet activation: Effects of humidity and insoluble fraction. J. Geophys. Res., Vol. 112, No. D5, D05206. (08 March 2007). (pdf)

Liu, J.P., J.A. Curry, Y.J. Dai, et al., 2007: Causes of the northern high-latitude land surface winter climate change. Geophys. Res. Lett., 34 (14): Art. No. L14702. (pdf)
2006

Agudelo, P.A., J.A. Curry, C.D. Hoyos, P.J. Webster, 2006: Transition between suppressed and active phases of intraseasonal oscillations in the Indo-Pacific warm pool. J. Climate, 19, 5515-5530. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., P.J. Webster and G.J. Holland, 2006: Mixing Politics and Science in Testing the Hypothesis That Greenhouse Warming Is Causing a Global Increase in Hurricane Intensity. Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 87 (8), 1025-1037. (pdf)

Hoyos C.D., P.A. Agudelo, P.J. Webster, and J.A. Curry, 2006: Deconvolution of the factors contributing to the increase in global hurricane intensity, Science, 312 (5770), 94-97. (pdf)

Inoue, J., J. Liu and J.A. Curry, 2006: Intercomparison of arctic regional climate models: Modeling clouds and radiation for SHEBA in May 1998. J. Climate, 19 (17): 4167-4178. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2006: Aerosol size spectra and CCN activity spectra: Reconciling the lognormal, algebraic, and power laws . J. Geophys. Res., 111 (D12): Art. No. D12202. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I., H. Morrison, J.A Curry, P. Lawson, D. Baumgardner, 2006: High supersaturation and modes of ice nucleation in thin tropopause cirrus: Simulation of the 13 July 2002 CRYSTAL case. J. Geophys. Res., 111 (D2): Art No. D0220. (pdf)

Liu, J.P. and J.A. Curry, 2006: Variability of the tropical and subtropical ocean surface latent heat flux during 1989-2000. Geophys. Res. Lett., 33(5): Art. No. L05706. (pdf)

Rinke, A., K. Dethloff, J.J. Cassano, J.H. Christensen, J.A. Curry, P. Du, E. Girard, J.E. Haugen, D. Jacob, C.G. Jones, M. Koltzow, R. Laprise, A.H. Lynch, S. Pfeifer, M.C. Serreze, M.J. Shaw, M. Tjernstrom, K. Wyser, M. Zagar, 2006: Evaluation of an ensemble of Arctic regional climate models: spatiotemporal fields during the SHEBA year. Climate Dyn., 26 (5): 459-472. (pdf)

Webster P.J., J.A. Curry, J. Liu, and G. J. Holland, 2006: Response to comment on "Changes in tropical cyclone number, duration, and intensity in a warming environment", Science, 311 (5768), 1713c. (pdf)
2005

Inoue, J., B. Kosovic and J.A. Curry, 2005: Evolution of a storm-driven boundary layer in the Arctic. Bound. Layer Meteorol., 117 (2): 213-230. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2005: The theory of ice nucleation by heterogeneous freezing of deliquescent mixed CCN. Part II: Parcel model simulation. J. Atmos. Sci., 62, 261-284. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I., J.A Curry, 2005: Fall velocities of hydrometeors in the atmosphere: Refinements to a continuous analytical power law. J. Atmos. Sci., 62 (12):4343-4357. (pdf)

Lui, J. , J.A. Curry, W.B. Rossow, J.R. Key, X. Wang, 2005: Comparison of surface radiative flux data sets over the Arctic Ocean. J. Geophys. Res., 110, Art No. C02015. (pdf)

Mirocha, J.D., B. Kosovic, and J.A. Curry, 2005: Vertical heat transfer in the lower atmosphere over the Arctic Ocean during clear sky periods. Bound. Layer Meteorol., 117 (1): 37-71. (pdf)

Morrison, H., J.A. Curry, V.I. Khvorostyanov, 2005: A new double-moment microphysics parameterization for application in cloud and climate models. Part 1: Description. J. Atmos. Sci., 62 (6): 1665-1677. (pdf)

Morrison, H. J.A. Curry, M. Shupe, P. Zuidema, 2005: A new double-moment microphysics parameterization for application in cloud and climate models. Part II: Single-column modeling of arctic clouds. J. Atmos. Sci., 62 (6): 1678-1693. (pdf)

Morrison, H., M. Shupe, J.O. Pinto, J.A. Curry, 2005: Possible roles of ice nucleation mode and ice nuclei depletion in the extended lifetime of arctic mixed phase clouds. Geophys. Res. Lett., 32 (18): Art. No. L18801. (pdf)

Webster, P.J., G. J. Holland, J. A. Curry, and H.-R. Chang, 2005: Changes in Tropical Cyclone Number, Duration, and Intensity in a Warming Environment, Science, 309 (5742), 1844-1846. (pdf)
2004

Agudelo, P.A. and J.A. Curry, 2004: Analysis of spatial distribution in tropospheric temperature trends. Geophys. Res. Lett., 31, Art. No. L222207. (pdf)

J. A. Curry, Bentamy A., Bourassa M. A.,Bourras D.,Bradley E. F.,Brunke M., Castro S. ,Chou S. H.,Clayson C. A.,Emery W. J. ,Eymard L., Fairall C. W. , Kubota M., Lin B., Perrie W. , Reeder R. A., Renfrew I. A., Rossow W. B., Schulz J., Smith S. R., Webster P. J. , Wick G. A. , and Zeng X., 2004: SEAFLUX. Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 85 (3), 409–424. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., J.M. Maslanik, G.J. Holland, and J.O. Pinto, 2004: Applications of Aerosondes in the Arctic. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 85, 1855-1861. (pdf)

Inoue, J. and J.A. Curry, 2004: Application of Aerosondes to high-resolution observations of sea surface temperature over Barrow Canyon. Geophys. Res. Lett., 31, Art. No. L14312. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2004: On the Thermodynamic Theory of Freezing and Melting of Water and its Solutions: J. Phys. Chem. A, 108, 11073-11085. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2004: Toward the theory of heterogeneous ice nucleation. Part I: Critical radius, energy and nucleation rate. J. Atmos. Sci., 61, 2676-2691. (pdf)

Liu, J.P., J.A. Curry and Y.Y. Hu, 2004: Recent Arctic sea ice variability: connections to the Arctic Oscillation and the ENSO. Geophys. Res. Lett., 31, L09211. (pdf)

Liu, J.P., J.A. Curry, and D.G. Martinson, 2004: Interpretation of recent Antarctic sea ice variability. Geophys. Res. Lett., 31, Art. No. L02205. (pdf)

Lynch, A.H., J.A. Curry, R.D. Brunner, J.A. Maslanik, 2004: Towards an integrated assessment of the impacts of extreme wind events on Barrow, Alaska. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc, 85, 209-221. (pdf)
2003

Brunke, M.A., C.W. Fairall, X. Zeng, L. Eymard, J. Curry, 2003: Which bulk aerodynamic algorithms are least problematic in computing ocean surface turbulent fluxes? J. Clim., 16 (4): 619-635. (pdf)

Haggerty, J.A., J.A. Maslanik, and J.A. Curry, 2002: Heterogeneity of sea ice surface temperature at SHEBA from aircraft measurements. J. Geophys. Res-Oceans, 108 (C10): Art. No. 8052, doi:10.1029/2000JC000560. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I., J.A. Curry, I. Gultepe, 2003: A springtime cloud over the Beaufort Sea polynya: Three-dimensional simulation with explicit spectral microphysics and comparison with observations. J. Geophys. Res., 108, art. no. 4296. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 2003: Observation and Interpretation of Microwave Cloud Signatures over the Arctic Ocean during Winter. J. Appl. Met., 42, 51-64. (pdf)

Liu, G., H. Shao, J.A. Coakley, J.A. Curry, et al., 2003: Retrieval of Cloud Droplet Size from Visible and Microwave Radiometric Measurements during INDOEX: Implication to Aerosols1 Indirect Radiative Effect. J. Geophys. Res., 108 (D1): art. no. 4006. (pdf)

Morrison, H., M. Shupe, J.A. Curry, 2003: Modeling clouds observed at SHEBA using a bulk microphysics parameterization implemented into a single-column model. J. Geophys. Res., (D8), 4255, doi:10.1029/2002JD002229. (pdf)

Pinto, J.O., A. Alam., J.A. Maslanik, and J.A. Curry, 2003: Characteristics and atmospheric footprint of springtime leads at SHEBA. J. Geophys. Res., 108, art no 8051. (pdf)

Randall, D., J.A. Curry, et al., 2003: Confronting Models with Data: The GEWEX Cloud System Study. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 84, 455-469. (pdf)
2002

Curry, J.A. and A.H. Lynch, 2002: Comparing Arctic Regional Climate Models. EOS, Trans. Amer. Geophys. Union, 83, p 87.

Curry, J.A., J.L. Schramm, A. Alam, R. Reeder, T.E. Arbetter, P. Guest, 2002: Evaluation of data sets used to force sea ice models in the Arctic Ocean. J. Geophys Res., 107, art. no 3102. (pdf)

Haggerty, J.A., J.A. Curry, and G. Liu, 2002: The potential for estimating cloud liquid water path over sea ice from airborne passive microwave measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 107, (D1), Art. no. 4007. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2002: Terminal Velocities of Droplets and Crystals: Power Laws with Continuous Parameters Over the Size Spectrum. J. Atmos. Sci., 59. 1872-1884. (pdf)

Tschudi, M., J.A. Curry, and J. Maslanik, 2002: Characterization of springtime leads in the Arctic Ocean from airborne observations during FIRE/SHEBA. J. Geophys. Res-Oceans., 107 (C10): Art No. 8034. (pdf)

Uttal, T., Curry, J.A., and 26 others, 2002: Surface Heat Budget of the Arctic Ocean. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 83, 255-275. (pdf)
2001

Benner, T , J.A. Curry, and J.O. Pinto, 2001: Radiative transfer in the summertime Arctic. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15173-15184. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., 2001: Introduction to special section: FIRE Arctic Clouds Experiment. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 14,985-14,989. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., J.L. Schramm, D. Perovich, and J.O. Pinto, 2001: Application of SHEBA/FIRE data to evaluation of sea ice surface albedo parameterizations. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15345-15356. (pdf)

Girard, E. and J.A. Curry, 2001: Simulation of arctic low-level clouds observed during the FIRE Arctic Clouds Experiment using a new bulk microphysics scheme. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15139-15154. (pdf)

Haggerty, J.A., and J.A. Curry, 2001: Variability of sea ice emissivity estimated from airborne passive microwave measurements during FIRE SHEBA. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15265-15278. (pdf)

Holland, G.H., P.J. Webster, J. A. Curry, et al., 2001: The Aerosonde robotic aircraft: A new paradigm for environmental observations. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 82(5), 889-991. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V. I., J. A. Curry, J. O. Pinto, M. Shupe, B. A. Baker, K. Sassen, 2001: Modeling with explicit spectral water and ice microphysics of a two-layer cloud system of altostratus and cirrus observed during the FIRE Arctic Clouds Experiment. J. Geophys. Res., 106(D14), 15099-15112, 10.1029/2000JD900521. (pdf)

Lin, B., P. Minnis, A. Fan, J.A. Curry, et al., 2001: Comparison of cloud liquid water paths derived from in situ and microwave radiometer data taken during the SHEBA/FIREACE. Geophys. Res. Lett., 28, 975-978. (pdf)

Liu, G., J.A. Curry, J.A. Haggerty, and Y. Fu, 2001: Retrieval and Characterization of Cloud Liquid Water Path Using Airborne Passive Microwave Data during INDOEX. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 28,719-28,730. (pdf)

Pinto, J.O., J.A. Curry, and J. Intrieri, 2001: Cloud-aerosol interactions during autumn over the Beaufort Sea. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15077-15098. (pdf)

Tschudi, M., J.A. Curry, and J.M. Maslanik, 2001: Airborne observations of summertime surface features and their effect on surface albedo during SHEBA. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 15335-15344. (pdf)
2000

Curry, J.A., P. Hobbs, M. King, D. Randall, P. Minnis, et al.. 2000: FIRE Arctic Clouds Experiment. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 81, 5-30. (pdf)

Jiang, H. W.R. Cotton, J.O. Pinto, J.A. Curry, and M.J. Weissbluth, 2000: Sensitivity of mixed-phase Arctic stratocumulus to ice forming nuclei and large-scale heat and moisture advection. J. Atmos. Sci., 57, 2105-2117. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 2000: A New Theory of Heterogeneous Ice Nucleation for Application in Cloud and Climate Models. Geophys. Res. Lett., 27 , 4081-4084 (pdf).

Kosovic, B., and J.A. Curry, 2000: A quasi steady state of a stable stratified atmospheric boundary layer: a large-eddy simulation study. J. Atmos. Sci., 57, 1052-1068. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 2000: Determination of ice water path and mass median particle size using multichannel microwave measurements. J. Appl. Meteor., 39, 1318-1329. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 2000: Determination of ice water path and mass median particle size using multichannel microwave measurements. J. Appl. Meteor., 39, 1318-1329. (pdf)
1999

Arbetter, T.E., J.A. Curry, and J.A. Maslanik, 1999: On the effects of rheology and ice thickness distribution in a dynamic-thermodynamic sea ice model. J. Phys. Oceanog., 29, 2656-2670 (pdf)

Curry, J. A., C. A. Clayson, W. B. Rossow, R. Reeder, Y.C. Zhang, P. J. Webster, G. Liu, and R. S. Sheu, 1999: High-resolution satellite-derived dataset of the surface fluxes of heat, freshwater and momentum for the TOGA COARE IOP. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 80, 2059-2080. (pdf)

Holland, M.M. and J.A. Curry, 1999: The role of different physical process in determining the interdecadal variability of Arctic sea ice. J. Climate, 12, 3319-3330. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I., and J.A. Curry, 1999: A simple analytical model of aerosol properties with account for hygroscopic growth. Part I: Equilibrium size spectra and CCN activity spectra. J. Geophys. Res., 104, 2163-2174. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I., and J.A. Curry, 1999: A simple analytical model of aerosol properties with account for hygroscopic growth. Part II: Scattering and absorption coefficients. J. Geophys. Res., 104, 2175-2184. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 1999: Theory of Stochastic Condensation in Clouds. Part I: A General Kinetic Equation. J. Atmos. Sci, 56, 3985-3996. (pdf)

Khvorostyanov, V.I. and J.A. Curry, 1999: Theory of Stochastic Condensation in Clouds. Part II: Analytical Solutions of the Gamma-Distribution Type. J. Atmos. Sci, 56, 3997-4013. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1999: Tropical ice water amount and its relations to other atmospheric hydrological parameters as inferred from satellite data J. Appl. Meteor., 38, 1182-1194. (pdf)

Perovich, D. K., E.L. Andreas, J.A. Curry, et al., 1999: Year on ice gives climate insights. EOS, 80, 481.

Pinto, J.O., J.A. Curry, and A.H. Lynch, 1999: Modeling clouds and radiation for the November 1997 period of SHEBA using a column climate model. J. Geophys. Res., 104, 6661-6678. (pdf)

Stamnes, K., Ellingson, R.G., J.A. Curry, J.E. Walsh, and B. D. Zak, 1999: Review of science issues and deployment strategies for the North Slope of Alaska/Adjacent Arctic Ocean (NSA/AAO) ARM site. J. Climate, 12, 46-63. (pdf)
1998

Alam, A. and J.A. Curry, 1998: Evolution of new ice and turbulent fluxes from freezing Arctic leads. J. Geophys. Res., 103, 15,783-15,802. (pdf)

Benner, T.C. and J.A. Curry, 1998: Characteristics of small tropical cumulus clouds and their impact on the environment. J. Geophys. Res., 103, 28,753-28,768. (pdf)

Considine, G. and J.A. Curry, 1998: Role of entrainment and droplet sedimentation on the microphysical structure in stratus and stratocumulus clouds. Quart. J. Roy. Meteorol. Soc., 24, 123-150.

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1998: Remote sensing of ice water characteristics in tropical clouds using aircraft microwave measurements. J. Appl. Meteor., 37, 337-355. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J .A. Curry, 1998: An investigation of the relationship between emission and scattering signals in SSM/I data. J . Atmos. Sci., 55, 1628-1643. (pdf)

Randall, D., J. A. Curry, et al., 1998: Outlook for Large-Scale Modelling of Atmosphere Ice-Ocean Interactions in the Arctic. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 70, 197-219. (pdf)
1997

Alam, A. and J.A. Curry, 1997: Determination of surface turbulent fluxes over leads in arctic sea ice. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 3331-3344. (pdf)

Arbetter, T., J.A. Curry, M.M. Holland, and J. M. Maslanik, 1997: Response of sea ice models to perturbations in surface heat flux. Ann. Glaciol., 25, 193-197.

Considine, G., J.A. Curry, and B.A. Wielicki, 1997: Modeling cloud fraction and horizontal variability in boundary layer clouds. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 13,517 - 13,525 (pdf)

Curry, J.A., J.O. Pinto, T. Benner, and M. Tschudi, 1997: Evolution of the cloudy boundary layer during the autumnal freezing of the Beaufort Sea. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 13851-13860. (pdf)

Duane, G. and J.A. Curry, 1997: Entropy of a convecting water-air system and the interpretation of cloud morphogenesis. Quart. J. Roy. Meteorol. Soc., 123, 605-629.

Holland, M., J.A. Curry, and J.L. Schramm, 1997: Modeling the thermodynamics of a distribution of sea ice thicknesses. Part II: Ice/ocean interactions. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 23093-23108. (pdf)

Holland, M.M., J.L. Schramm, and J.A. Curry, 1997: Thermodynamic feedback processes in a single-column sea ice/ocean model. Ann. Glaciol., 25, 327-332.

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1997: Precipitation characteristics in the GIN Seas determined using satellite microwave data. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 13987-13998. (pdf)

Pinto, J.O. and J.A. Curry, 1997: Role of radiative transfer in the modeled mesoscale development of summertime arctic stratus. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 13,861-13,872. (pdf)

Pinto, J.O., J.A. Curry, and C.W. Fairall, 1997: Radiative characteristics of the Arctic atmosphere during spring as inferred from ground-based measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 6941-6952. (pdf)

Schramm, J.L., M.M. Holland, and J.A. Curry, 1997: Applications of a single-column ice/ocean model understanding the mass balance of sea ice and snow in the Central Arctic. Ann. Glaciol., 25, 287-291.

Schramm, J.L., M. Holland, J.A. Curry, and E.E. Ebert, 1997: Modeling the thermodynamics of a distribution of sea ice thicknesses. Part I: Sensitivity to ice thickness resolution. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 23079-23092. (pdf)

Sheu, R.-S., J.A. Curry, and G. Liu, 1997: Vertical Stratification of Tropical Cloud Properties as Determined from Satellite. J. Geophys. Res., 102, 4231-4246. (pdf)

Tschudi, M., J.A. Curry, and J.M. Maslanik, 1997: Determination of areal surface feature coverage in the Beaufort Sea using aircraft video data. Ann. Glaciol., 25, 434-438.
1996

Clayson, C.A. and J.A. Curry, 1996: Determination of surface turbulent fluxes for TOGA COARE: Comparison of satellite retrievals and in situ measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 101, 28,503-28,513. (pdf)

Clayson, C.A., C.W. Fairall, and J.A. Curry, 1996: Evaluation of turbulent fluxes at the ocean surface using surface renewal theory. J. Geophys. Res., 101, 28,515-28,528. (pdf)

Considine, G. and J.A. Curry, 1996: A statistical model of drop size spectra for stratocumulus clouds. Quart. J. Roy. Meteor. Soc., 122, 611-634.

Curry, J.A., D. Randall, and W.B. Rossow, and J.L. Schramm, 1996: Overview of arctic cloud and radiation characteristics. J. Clim., 9, 1731-1764. (pdf)

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1996: Large-scale cloud features during winter in the north Atlantic Ocean determined from SSM/I and SSM/T2 observations. J. Geophys. Res., 101, 7019-7032. (pdf)

Sheu, R.-S., J. A. Curry, and G. Liu, 1996: Satellite retrieval of tropical rainfall using ISCCP analyses and microwave measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 101, 21291-21301. (pdf)

Webster, P. J., C. A. Clayson and J. A. Curry, 1996: Clouds, radiation and the diurnal cycle of sea surface temperature in the tropical western Pacific Ocean. J. Clim., 9, 1712-1730. (pdf)
1995

Alam, A. and J.A. Curry, 1995: Lead-induced atmospheric circulations. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 4643-4652. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., 1995: Interactions Among Aerosols, Clouds and Climate of the Arctic Ocean.The Science of the Total Environment, 160/161, 777-791. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., J. Schramm and E. E. Ebert, 1995: On the sea ice albedo climate feedback mechanism. J. Climate, 8, 240-247. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., J.L. Schramm, MC. Serreze, and E.E. Ebert, 1995: Water vapor feedback over the Arctic Ocean. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 14,223-14,229. (pdf)

Ebert, E.E., J.L. Schramm, and J.A. Curry, 1995: Disposition of solar radiation in sea ice and the upper ocean. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 15,965-15,976. (pdf)

Liu, G., J.A. Curry, and C.A. Clayson, 1995: Study of tropical cyclogenesis using satellite data. Meteor. Atmos. Phys., 56, 111-123.

Liu, G., J.A. Curry, and R.S. Sheu, 1995: Classification of clouds over the western equatorial Pacific Ocean using combined infrared and microwave satellite data. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 13,811-13,826. (pdf)

McInnes, K.L. and J.A. Curry, 1995: Modelling the mean and turbulent structure of the summertime Arctic cloudy boundary layer. Bound. Lay. Meteor., 73, 125-143.

Pinto, J.O., J.A. Curry and K.L. McInnes, 1995: Atmospheric convective plumes emanating from leads 1. Thermodynamic structure. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 4621-4632. (pdf)

Pinto, J.O. and J.A. Curry, 1995: Atmospheric convective plumes emanating from leads 2. Microphysical and radiative processes. J. Geophys. Res., 100, 4633- 642. (pdf)
1994

Curry, J.A. et al., 1994: New Program to Research Issues of Global Climate in the Arctic. EOS, 75, 249-252.

Liu, G., J.A. Curry and M. Weadon, 1994: Atmospheric water balance in Typhoon Nina as determined from SSM/I satellite data. Meteor. Atmos. Phys. 54, 141-156.
1993

Curry, J.A. and L.F. Radke, 1993: Possible role of ice crystals in ozone destructionof the lower Arctic atmosphere. Atmos. Environ., 27, 2873-2879.

Curry, J.A., J. Schramm and E.E. Ebert, 1993: Impact of clouds on the surface radiation budget of the Arctic Ocean. Meteor. and Atmos. Phys, 57, 197-217.

Ebert, E. and J.A. Curry, 1993: An intermediate one-dimensional thermodynamic sea ice model for investigating ice-atmosphere interactions. J. Geophys. Res., 98, 10085-10109.

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1993: Determination of characteristics of cloud liquid water from satellite microwave measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 98, 5069-5092.

Tan, Y.C. and J.A. Curry, 1993: A diagnostic study of the evolution of an intense North American anticyclone during winter 1989. Mon. Wea. Rev., 121, 961-975. (pdf)

Wilson, L.D., J.A. Curry, and T.P. Ackerman, 1993: On the satellite retrieval of lower tropospheric ice crystal clouds in the polar regions. J. Climate, 6, 1467-1472. (pdf)
1992

Curry, J.A. and E.E. Ebert, 1992: Annual cycle of radiative fluxes over the Arctic ocean: Sensitivity to cloud optical properties. J. Climate, 5, 1267-1280. (pdf)

Curry, J.A. and G. Liu, 1992: Assessment of aircraft icing potential using satellite data. J. Appl. Meteor., 31, 605-621. (pdf)

Ebert, E.E. and J.A. Curry, 1992: A parameterization of cirrus cloud optical properties for climate models. J. Geophys. Res., 97, 3831-3836.

Liu, G. and J.A. Curry, 1992: Retrieval of precipitation from satellite microwave measure-ments using both emission and scattering. J. Geophys. Res., 97, 9959-9974.

Sheu, R-.S. and J.A. Curry, 1992: Interactions between North Atlantic clouds and the large- scale environment. Mon. Wea. Rev.,120, 261-278. (pdf)
1991

Meyer, F.G., J.A. Curry, C.A. Brock and L.F. Radke, 1991: Springtime visibility in the Arctic. J. Appl. Meteor., 30, 342-357. (pdf)
1990

Curry, J.A. and E.E. Ebert, 1990: Sensitivity of the thickness of Arctic sea ice to the optical properties of clouds. Ann. Glac., 14, 43-46.

Curry, J.A., C.D. Ardeel, and L. Tian, 1990: Liquid water content and precipitation characteristics of stratiform clouds as inferred from satellite microwave measurements. J. Geophys. Res., 95, 16659-16671.

Curry, J.A., F.G. Meyer, L.F. Radke, C.A. Brock, and E.E. Ebert, 1990: The occurrence and characteristics of lower tropospheric ice crystals in the Arctic. Int. J. Climatol., 10, 749-764.
1989

Curry, J.A. and C.-H. Moeng, 1989: Role of cloud-top radiative cooling in the production of turbulence kinetic energy. In IRS'88: Current Problems in Atmospheric Radiation, J. Lenoble and J.F. Geleyn (eds). A. Deepak Publ., 60-63.

Curry, J.A., F.G. Meyer and E.E. Ebert, 1989: Cloudless ice-crystal precipitation in the polar regions. In IRS '88: Current Problems in Atmospheric Radiation, J. Lenoble and J.F. Geleyn (eds). A. Deepak Publ., 80-83.

Tian, L. and J.A. Curry, 1989: Cloud overlap statistics. J. Geophys. Res., 94, 9925-9935.
1988

Curry, J.A., 1988: Arctic cloudiness in spring from satellite imagery: some comments. J. Climatol., 8, 543-549.

Curry, J.A., E.E. Ebert, and G.F. Herman, 1988: Mean and turbulence structure of the summertime Arctic cloudy boundary layer. Quart. J. Roy. Met. Soc., 114, 715-746.
1987

Curry, J.A., 1987: The contribution of radiative cooling to the formation of cold-core anticyclones. J. Atmos. Sci., 44, 2575-2592. (pdf)
1986

Curry, J.A., 1986: Interactions among turbulence, radiation and microphysics in Arctic stratus clouds. J. Atmos. Sci., 43, 90-106. (pdf)

Curry, J.A., 1986: Reply to comments on "Interactions between turbulence, radiation and microphysics in Arctic stratus clouds." J. Atmos. Sci., 43, 2753-2755. (pdf)
1985

Curry, J.A. and G. F. Herman, 1985: Infrared radiative properties of Arctic stratus clouds. J. Clim. Appl. Met., 24, 525-538.

Curry, J.A. and G.F. Herman, 1985: Relationships between large-scale heat and moisture budgets and the occurrence of Arcticstratus clouds. Mon. Wea. Rev., 113, 1441-1457. (pdf)
1984

Herman, G.F. and J.A. Curry, 1984: Observational and theoretical studies of solar radiation in Arctic stratus clouds. J. Clim. Appl. Met., 23, 5-24.
1983

Curry, J.A., 1983: On the formation of continental Polar air. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 2278-2292. (pdf)

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:35 | 3073240 Flakmeister
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Very good...

Please point out any paper that disputes the concensus as put forth in the IPCC vis a vis AGW...

I dare you.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:50 | 3073255 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Those papers have not yet been written. Curry had been a long time proponent of AGW, after all. Curry's dissension based on the newly collected BEST data is breaking news. That's why you'll have to read Curry's quotes in the newspapers. I dare ya.

Also see this: Hoyos C.D., P.A. Agudelo, P.J. Webster, and J.A. Curry, 2006: Deconvolution of the factors contributing to the increase in global hurricane intensity, Science, 312 (5770), 94-97. [PDF]

 

Dr. Curry is in full agreement with the man you call a modern white wizard, James Lovelock, that warming has plateaued, that warming is not ultimately dependent on CO2 and that AGW proponents have been alarmist about their predictions. Why be the last denier? The science is settled.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 00:39 | 3073493 Flakmeister
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Grima, you can twist things remarkably to suit your purposes....

As I thought, nary a peep about Curry saying AGW is wrong, or a concrete prediction about the future trends...

Why wouldn't she retract his BEST involvement? Any scientist with integrity would retract themselves from a result that they disavow....

Can't you tell when you are being duped?

Anyway you can have the last word Gríma Wormtounge....

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:17 | 3071570 PeteJE
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Good for him.  Is it lost on all you that these particular weapons came from someone prepping for economic and civilization collapse.  Bunch of paranoid fools - your thoughts and actions have consequences in the real world.

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:28 | 3071635 LawsofPhysics
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Is this the same "real world" where printing has brought us all this prosperity.  You say "actions have consequences in the real world".  I say bullshit,  for too long there have been no consequences, that is the fucking problem.  Remind me, where is John Corzine motherfucker?   Entities in New York engineered and profitted from the collapse, then got bailed out.  Where are the real consequences in that bad behavior?!?!?  Yeah, if I were this criminal enabler, I might want to take weapons away from my citizens too.

Stupid sheep.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:28 | 3071644 salvadordaly
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Good for him. Is it lost on all you that these particular weapons came from someone prepping for economic and civilization collapse. Bunch of paranoid fools - your thoughts and actions have consequences in the real world. /sarc

There I fixed it for ya!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:46 | 3071774 fuu
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Hey noob the only anagram for your name is Pee Jet. Which is funny since all you do is piss all over the place like a puppy.

STFU.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:49 | 3071788 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Good for him.  Is it lost on all you that these particular weapons came from someone prepping for economic and civilization collapse.  Bunch of paranoid fools - your thoughts and actions have consequences in the real world.

 

Do your part. Post a "gun free zone" sign on your home.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:16 | 3071572 Mad Mohel
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I say they ban that fuckin Bloomberg from opening that shithole he calls a mouth. That prick's answer to everything is banning.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:16 | 3071574 shutupnsing
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Only if they promise to throw the biggest offender behind bars as Fast & Furiously as humanly possible!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:16 | 3071576 youngman
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MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR MAKING GUN TRAFFICKING A FELONY...well that should take out half of the ATF and Eric Holder.....and the State Department....the CIA...arming the so called Democratic Rebels

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:19 | 3071593 LawsofPhysics
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One set of laws for the corporate fascists, and another for you.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:17 | 3071582 dracos_ghost
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Well more kids were killed in auto accidents than guns so let's get rid of cars too.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:32 | 3071675 LawsofPhysics
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will happen when the commodity complex finally breaks.  Long bikes already.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:51 | 3071801 CrockettAlmanac.com
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child killed in bicycle accident

About 35,900,000 results

(0.27 seconds)

 

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&spell=1&q=child+killed+in+bicycle+ac...

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:33 | 3072070 Matt
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How many of the bicycle accidents involved cars?

Of the remainder motor vehicleless bicycle deaths, how many were wearing helmets?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:36 | 3072082 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Why suggest that a bicycle can be used responsibly when it's so much easier to call for a ban and screech that those who do ride responsibly have the blood of children on their hands?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:18 | 3071587 LawsofPhysics
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I  am sure it will be just as successful as his "war on soda", the "war on terror" and the "war on drugs".  Enjoy the circuses folks because the bread is running low.

One set of laws for the corporate fascists, and another for you.

Bloody sheep

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:19 | 3071589 Wanton1
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New Nazis redefine mental disease.

Open season on hunters.

 

 

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:18 | 3071590 WeekendTrader
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What an idiot! He should be giving AK47s to everybody entering highshool. They will be so much safer!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:21 | 3071604 LawsofPhysics
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I presume you mean "highschool", and yes, remind us, what is Switzerland's model again regarding firearms?

 

Stupid fucking sheep.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:54 | 3071827 CrockettAlmanac.com
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What an idiot! He should be giving AK47s to everybody entering highshool. They will be so much safer!

 

Even in your attempt to ridicule lovers of liberty you can't suppress your collectivist and socialist tendencies.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:11 | 3071930 WeekendTrader
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believe it or not, we actually do live in a society with more than one person so yes, one has to think of the collective. And 20 6 and 7 year old kids won't be doing that anymore.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:18 | 3071985 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Believe it or not people are individuals and neither you nor Mike Bloomberg have a right to initiate violence against others in order to pursue your own personal agendas.

 

And 20 6 and 7 year old kids won't be doing that anymore.

 

Why pretend that you care about children when you don't want them to be protected by responsible adults?

 

Pearl High School shooting

 

The incident began on the morning of October 1, 1997 when Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother, Mary Woodham, as she prepared for a morning jog. At his trial, Woodham claimed that he could not remember killing his mother.

Woodham drove his mother's car to Pearl High School. Wearing an orange jumpsuit and a trenchcoat,[1] he made no attempt to hide his rifle. When he entered the school, he fatally shot Lydia Kaye Dew and Christina Menefee, his former girlfriend. Pearl High School assistant band director, Jeff Cannon, was standing five feet away from Dew when she was fatally shot. Woodham went on to wound seven others before leaving, intending to drive off campus and conduct another shooting at the nearby Pearl Junior High School. However, assistant principal Joel Myrick had retrieved a .45 pistol from the glove compartment of his truck and subdued Woodham inside his mother's car. Then Myrick demanded "Why did you shoot my kids?" to which Woodham replied, "Life has wronged me, sir."[2]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Woodham

 

 

 

Parker Middle School dance shooting

 

The Parker Middle School dance shooting was an incident that occurred on April 24, 1998 at a restaurant in Edinboro, Pennsylvania, United States. 14-year-old Andrew Jerome Wurst fatally shot 48-year-old John Gillette, and wounded another teacher and two students[1] at Nick's Place (a nearby restaurant) during an 8th grade graduation dance.[2]

The shooting ended when the owner of Nick's Place, James Strand, intervened and confronted Wurst with his shotgun, ordering him to drop his weapon and later holding him at bay for eleven minutes.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:32 | 3072026 WeekendTrader
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Thank you for pointing out that an idiot with a gun killed a number of people and then was aprehended without violence.

Had he not had access to a gun nobody would have died, but we would not want that now, do we....

 

Totally agree - more guns are better. If everybody is armed to the teeth we all will be so much safer. In fact, it should be illegal to be out in public and be without at least a semi-automatic.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:33 | 3072067 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If you believe that fewer guns always leads to the best outcome then you must have wanted those who were saved by the introduction of a second gun in the hands of a responsible adult in the Pearl and Edinboro incidents to die. It's fun to watch your partisanship reveal itself when you are faced with discussing (or avoiding the discussion of) real world situations.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:34 | 3072079 WeekendTrader
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20 dead kids seems pretty real world to me. At least in my world.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:41 | 3072108 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Yes, it's quite real and the policies your promote indicate that you wanted them to die. That's why you are so upset by the stories out of Pearl and Edinboro that you can't even admit that responsible adults with guns saved lives in those situations. It's people like you who put the Sandy Hook principle in a position where she had to make an unarmed rush at an insane gunman.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:45 | 3072137 WeekendTrader
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You're right. I change my point of view. We need more weapons so we all will be safe.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:49 | 3072154 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Why are you fixated on a numbers game? When individuals act responsibly according to the nonaggression principle we will be safer. Your nanny state agenda makes that impossible and encourages just the sort of aberrant behavior that got those kids killed.

 

And you still can not seriously admit that responsible adults with guns saved lives in Pearl and Edinboro. W#hat clearer evidence could there be of your desire to see more kids killed?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:54 | 3072202 WeekendTrader
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Guns facility the expression of violence. Violence cannot and will not be eliminated - it is part of the human condition. What a reduction of access to guns does is limit the extend to which that violence can be expressed, thus limiting harm. We all sometimes get really, really angry and, if a weapon were available would probably like to use it in the heat of the moment. 5 minutes later though usually it is quite clear that killing somebody because they were eying your wife would not have been a good idea.

Having reduced access to guns simply makes sense. Had the kid in Newtown not had access he would have perhaps stabbed somebody, but the damage would have been much, much more limited.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:38 | 3072289 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Having reduced access to guns simply makes sense.

 

Is that a confirmation that you wish more kids had been killed in Pearl and Edinboro?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:33 | 3072681 Matt
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Do you get into alot of brawls? If you fear that you would lose your temper and shoot someone if you possessed a gun, simply due to that person oggling your wife, then surely you must find that without a gun, you tend to suddenly start punching people. 

The only way to make sure you cannot punch people is to limit your access to fists, by cutting off your hands.

Or we could get biblical; whatever offends you, cut it out. If seeing things makes you violent, then you should remove your eyes so you are not offended.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:40 | 3072706 DosZap
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Matt,

Do you get into alot of brawls?.

Don;t know who your responding to, but NOW if you get into a fight, and the LE are involved(misdemeanor).You just lost your right to EVER own a firearm again.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:50 | 3081384 Matt
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The comments on this site are nested, so my response is indented one notch from the post I am replying to, TheWeekendTrader, who wrote:

"We all sometimes get really, really angry and, if a weapon were available would probably like to use it in the heat of the moment. 5 minutes later though usually it is quite clear that killing somebody because they were eying your wife would not have been a good idea."

To which I inquired if (s)he tended to get into many brawls. I do not think the sort of person who flies off into a rage and shoots someone because of a minor offense, would suddenly act civil without a handgun. 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:43 | 3072128 fuu
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:57 | 3072152 WeekendTrader
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Of course not. Lives taken away at age 6 and 7 are irrelevant. So are the lives of the parents, siblings, grand parents and the community at large.

if just they would have had more, easily accessible guns all would have been fine.

11 bullets for a 7 year old is just right.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:10 | 3072296 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So why do you insist that children be penned in so-called "gun free zones" like the Sandy Hook school?

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