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Gun Sales Soar In Aftermath Of Newtown Killings

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As so often happens when dealing with the fickle public, the aftermath of the news of the second worst school massacre in US history has led to precisely the opposite outcome to the one desired by the media and at least part of the general population. Because in the backlash for gun control at its tamest, and against weapon ownership of any kind at its most rabid, driven primarily by those who don't own weapons, everyone else decided to think one step ahead and preempt what may soon be yet another governmental subjugation of a constitutional amendment. The result? An absolute surge in weapon sales in the days following last Friday's tragedy.

The Guardian reports:

Karl Durkheimer is more coy than might be expected of a man with a pistol on his hip.


Durkheimer's gun shop looks to have enjoyed record sales of semi-automatics – "modern sporting rifles", as he calls them – and handguns at the weekend. But he doesn't want to talk specific numbers.


Nor is he terribly keen to speculate on the causes of the sudden demand. But he acknowledges that it probably has everything to do with a man killing two people with an assault rifle last week in a Portland shopping mall less than 10 minutes drive away, and Friday's massacre of 20 small children and seven adults on the other side of the country in Connecticut.


"Handgun sales are up substantially and modern sporting rifles are up astronomically," he said after a few days when his shop, Northwest Armory, was packed with buyers sizing up the most popular pistol in the US, the Glock, and the military-style AR-15 assault rifle, which also comes with a pink stock for women. "The people you see are twofold. There are first-time buyers who are in fear of what the future will bring. But most of what you saw is people hedging their bets that there might be a political policy put forward by the liberal side of the government."


Durkheimer means his shoppers fear that the shock of the Newtown, Connecticut, killings might cause the public and Congress to support a reinstatement of the ban on some of his most popular lines.


That's a picture replicated across the US from California to Louisiana, and even in Newtown where Robert Caselnova said his gun shop saw high demand for assault rifles in the days after the killings. The nationwide increase in sales was reflected in longer than usual delays for legally required background checks which in some cases took hours rather than minutes.


The surge in sales is not unusual. Following a mass killing at a Colorado cinema in July, applications to buy guns rose more than 40% in a week. The murder two years ago of six people during an assassination attempt against congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was badly wounded, prompted a 60% increase in gun sales in a single day in Arizona.

And while we have been following the slow and steady rise in gun sales, punctuated by two key events which have sent gun sales soaring, namely the Obama election and reelection, the pick up in sales seen last weekend is unprecedented. And to confirm fears that whether by way of the Second Amendment or not, various chains may halt gun sales, earlier today we got confirmation from Dick's Sporting Goods that they have suspended sales of rifles nationwide:

Dick’s Sporting Goods Inc. (DKS), the largest U.S. sporting-goods chain, has suspended sales of modern sporting rifles in the wake of the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, as the community mourns victims of the massacre.


Sales of all guns have been stopped at its store closest to the shooting, the Coraopolis, Pennsylvania-based company said today in an e-mailed statement.


Dick’s is pulling the products after 26 people -- mostly children -- were killed during a Dec. 14 shooting rampage at an elementary school in Newtown. The chain, which has more than 500 stores in the U.S., sells guns and ammunition in stores and not online, according to its website.


“We are extremely saddened by the unspeakable tragedy that occurred last week,” the company said in the statement. Dick’s is removing the guns “out of respect for the victims and their families.”

Noble gesture, to be sure, but all it is really doing is leading to even greater sales at all other gun retailer outlets. And indeed, as fears that more and more companies may halt sales, the scramble to weaponize themselves, will keep Americans busy for days and weeks to come.

On the question of how gun owners see last Friday's tragedy, the Guardian had this to add:

The buyers regard the Newtown killings as a tragedy, but view any connection to their right to own weapons as a political ploy aimed at depriving them of their guns.


"It's terrible what happened. It's just plain evil," said Richard Merritt on the steps of the gun shop after browsing assault rifles with a thought to buying himself one for Christmas to supplement the handguns and hunting rifle he owns.


"But there's people trying to use that to say I'm responsible because I own a gun. Where's the connection? The only people making one are doing it for political ends because there's not one of these massacres would ever have been stopped by a law that takes my gun away. But now they're talking about doing that again, I think this may be the time to buy."


Durkheimer is sick of gun owners being painted as the problem. Like many, he feels demonised and vilified for the crimes of a few because he enjoys hunting and shooting ranges. That puts him on the defensive when groups campaigning for tightened gun regulation might be better off trying to win him over with assurances that their calls to restrict the sale of assault rifles and magazines that hold large numbers of bullets won't end with the confiscation of handguns and hunting rifles.


"It's just another thing that will drive a wedge between us. Instead of the United States being a melting pot it's more polarised," he said.

Well, class warfare in the US is nothing new. And of course, what is most ironic, is that it is precisely the fear of forced, unilateral rejection, by either or all three branches of government, of the original constitution and its various amendments that has Americans scrambling into gun stores. And thus the closed loop nature of the problem: by threatening to take away America's guns, the government is only exacerbating a problem that is steeped in 200+ years of history and is engrained deep in American psychology.

What is the solution?

We don't know, but we do know that the government stepping in confident it can and will fix and regulate everything is precisely what will only make the problem far, far worse.

We do know that heart of the problem is far, far deeper than one or more tragic mass shootings can reveal. In fact the full extent of the problem begins to be unmasked courtesy of the chart we showed yesterday, and which was to be found, ironically enough, in the most recent Smith and Wesson investor presentation.


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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:19 | 3075542 mayhem_korner
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Stocking stuffers, muppetz!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:26 | 3075578 takeaction
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I live in Oregon...This story should have BEEN FRONT PAGE.  The media does not want you to see this.  This story was kept off the air.  Very Interesting.  The gun grabbers don't want you seeing anything good about weapons....

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:28 | 3075590 nope-1004
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CNBC said "gun sales falling".  Are they lying?  Stupid?  Incompetent?  All of the above?


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:31 | 3075611 fuu
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Wouldn't want to go 24 hours without a good gun story. People might forget they are out there.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:46 | 3075633 TruthInSunshine
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30 Round PMAGs, the ultimate barter item...

In KronyKomradeAmerika, Cerebus divests out of incredibly profitably lines of business to go on Uncle Sugar's mammary gland.

Here's what we've been told, in the wake of an objective (and subjective) tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School:

1)  The culprit was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome, which falls under the category of an autism spectrum disorder via the DSM-IV.

2)  The culprit was anti-social and was inclined towards non-empathy, according to former classmates and others who knew him and/or grew up with him.

3)  It has been reported by several "anonymous" law enforcement sources that the culprit had a history of legal troubles, but this is unconfirmed as any record pre the age of 18 or 17 would have been sealed per juvenile status.

4)  The culprit used firearms, including the primary rifle that he used to murder nearly all of his victims, that he stole from his mother, in furtherance of his sick crimes. The culprit never purchased any firearms in his name, or at all, and therefore never underwent federal or state background checks, nor was he screened or approved for a permit to own or carry any firearms.

5) There are an estimated 300 million firearms of all types, from shotguns to pistols to so-called "black" or "assault" rifles, in the lawful ownership and custody of an approximate 50 million American Civilians, 99.99% of whom never violate the law, let alone harm anyone (with without use of a firearm). Think about that; An incredibly small fraction of a fraction of a percent of owners of fireamrs ever threaten, let alone harm any other person during their lifetime.

Yet, here are anti-RTKBA politicians and an incredibly biased Main Stream Media, in the immediate aftermath of a genuine tragedy, exploiting it by using illogical & specious arguments, irrelevant information and dis-information, and empty rhetoric that is purely calculated to foment public support for their true agenda, which is to chip away at the foundation of a critical element of the 2nd Amendment, and in ways that would not have prevented the Sandy Hook tragedy, I might add.

Senators Feinstein & Schumer, along with Mayor Bloomberg & President Obama have absolutely no intellectual honesty on this subject, and the Main Stream Media yet again shows why it's an institutional failure of the highest order (it does not educate its readers/viewers/listeners, as a cornerstone institution of a true democracy dependent of an electoral process would do, but it spreads misinformation, half-truths and propaganda).


While the anti-RTKBA agenda crowd will renew their dogmatic, irrational push to try and legislate away the right to purchase magazines holding more than 10 cartridges of ammunition, they will never want an honest debate on the efficacy of such a piece of legislation, since:

"...of 12,664 murder victims last year, [just] 323 were killed with rifles, according to the F.B.I.’s Uniform Crime Report."

That's correct. 97.5 out of 100 homicide victims last year were killed with handguns, knives, glass bottles, hammers, baseball bats, fists, etc., and not rifles of any kind, let alone "evil, black, assault-y" semiautomatic ones.

I'm quite confident that nearly all the homicides that were perpetrated this weekend in Chicago, land of some of the most restrictive firearm ownership laws -- yet land of an abnormally high homicide rate-- were done so using "low capacity" handguns and revolvers.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075683 otto skorzeny
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I like my 75 round drums in a more manly caliber-7.62x39(when you absolutely positvely have to kill every MFer in the room-accept no substitute). typical AR buyer-pay 2X as much for stuff like mags on a battle rifle that is 1/2 as good as an AK

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075755 cougar_w
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:40 | 3076410 12ToothAssassin
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The Gun is Civilization
by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force.

Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:38 | 3076716 TwoShortPlanks
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Question: What do you get when you breed ignorance with fear.

Answer: Increased gun sales directly after yet another school blood bath.

Ya-know, call me crazy, but I have a suspicion that the increased security being forced upon America might, just might, have something to do with this type of shit.

Fear is a virus which needs to burn itself out. I can't wait for the lights to go out and the muzzle flashes to begin.

I just hope it becomes a reality TV show so I can watch it each night with dinner.

.....and I want it in full HD, none of this CCTV crap.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:40 | 3077109 smiler03
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An Amerian website citing the UK Guardian..., but but but, it's only an American issue, isn't it? Your American readers don't (rightly) appreciate foreigners butting in. So.......


Make your fucking mind up Tyler. Vascillating dualist apologist.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 03:30 | 3077750 TwoShortPlanks
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LOL, nothing like hedging your bets.

ZH has never, ever criticised the BIS, possibly never criticised wealthy elites and mafia, it has rarely criticised the UN, and has sometimes criticised the IMF and World Bank. ZH focuses mainly on Governments and the Banking System, but especially individuals. This is like blaming the puppets for a bad performance.

Remember when ZH was attacking Goldman ever single day? Now what, besties?

It's good for some intel, but ZH is still propaganda nonetheless.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 04:56 | 3077791 Transformer
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I read over and over for the first two days that the gunman had two pistols with him in the school and the Bushmaster was found in the trunk of his car.  Now every article about this says that he killed all the kids with the Bushmaster.  What??

Also, what happened to the 2nd possible shooter who was found in the woods next to the school?   I read about that over and over on the first day.  Am I the only one that notices this shit?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:10 | 3077867 TwoShortPlanks
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Yes, your questions are indeed valid.

Perhaps it's a Hegelian Dialectic solution to the problem of disarming the US public of semi-auto assault rifles (High velocity rounds).

Semi-auto AR's are more dangerous than machine guns as they are light, very accurate, somewhat compact, and you can pack lots of rounds into tight containers (mags) which can then be stored in vests. Machine Guns tend to be larger, heavier, deliberately inaccurate, ammo requires bags, and you can easily stop sales of link.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 03:10 | 3077723 TwoShortPlanks
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Oops, did I just step on another raw nerve...well fuck me, those pesky little things are everywhere. Nothing like trying to navigate the ZeroHedge minefield of political correctness while pointing out the fucking obvious.

But nobody has to worry, I'm sure everyone will remain calm and orderly when the lights go out and the food lines snake through the Burbs.

A little tip from the past to make everyone feel at ease:

<Sarc/permanently fucking on now>

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:56 | 3077911 SpeakerFTD
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Jesus, you're annoying.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:35 | 3076718 A Lunatic
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Thank you. I will do my part to disseminate this information.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:42 | 3076742 beaglebog
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You missed one, Major.





Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:17 | 3077234 TheFourthStooge-ing
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People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society.

As the carrion eaters like Schumer, Feinstein, and Bloomberg eagerly flock to tragedies like this, keep in mind that their ban plan applies only to you, not to their own well armed bodyguards/goon squads.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:23 | 3077428 CompassionateFascist
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How about naming some gun-grabbing Stalinist kleptos who AREN'T Jewish? This is rank anti-semitism. One might almost think the Jews want to disarm Whites and middle-class people in Amerikwa so they can massacre them. As in Soviet Russia, Cambodia, China, North Korea and other Judeo-Bolshevik "gun free zones". 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 00:04 | 3077538 DoChenRollingBearing
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Indeed, + 1, TheFourth.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:59 | 3077525 pods
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Beautiful essay, although it is most definitely NOT from any Major Caudill (name was the same as the founder of my last company so I was curious).

The author is Marko Kloos, and he discusses the piece, and it's wrong attribution here:


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:42 | 3078966 ImReady
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Actually written by Marko Kloos and plagiarized thereafter...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:02 | 3075765 HelluvaEngineer
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Dude, not right now.  Please.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:10 | 3075813 otto skorzeny
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lighten up Francis-it's a quote in the movie Jackie Brown when Samuel L Jackson was talking about AKs

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:40 | 3076187 Freddie
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Samuel Jackson the racist?  TV and Hollywood are sh*t.  Tarantino is a POS.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:46 | 3076216 fonestar
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Every time these fuckers in the media try and capitalize on another tragedy, go buy another SKS!

Who's with me?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:58 | 3076267 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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TIS for Prez!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:15 | 3076316 TruthInSunshine
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There are so many people here smarter than I, I wouldn't and couldn't.

I wouldn't mind being nominated & appointed as the Chairman of the Non-Federal Reserve-less Non-Bank, however, so I could take a giant, steaming dump on it.

I would also do my best, after sabotaging & destroying the Non-Fed Reserve-less Non-Bank from within, to get the U.S. back on an actual U.S. Dollar standard, backed by something-- anything of inherent value -- also, where.....gasp!....the average person would see their PURCHASING POWER RISE...RISE....RISE!!!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:18 | 3076624 unrulian
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Piers Morgan is a POS fuck wad

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:04 | 3076830 Michaelwiseguy
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Fuck that British cock sucker. He works that queen cunt.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 00:25 | 3077580 prains
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i love me a fried egg in the morning

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:30 | 3075892 -1Delta
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vz 58 is better IMO

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:33 | 3075907 Karlus
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I hate carrying those things around loaded. PITA.


Also, good luck shooting that from the shoulder, you are going to need a bipod (which is more weight)


Personally, I just stick with 30 rounders hanging from my bat-belt

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:16 | 3076323 otto skorzeny
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I have never found it that much heavier-plus it improves accuracy by damping down muzzle rise- you gals should stick with a 5 round mag which is all you are going to get after O is done

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:24 | 3076897 Karlus
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You prob have the big tactical light and a buncha other junk honking up your rifle. If you lugged one around as much as me, you would know that lighter is better.

But good luck with your drum mag, Rambo.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:22 | 3077245 Henry Hub
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I ave a 308 Winchester bolt action that hold three rounds. I have always figured that if I can't bring down a buck with three shots, I don't deserve to have it. I can't imagine any one would need a larger magazine capacity, unless you're some scumbag after children or other innocents.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:27 | 3077439 CompassionateFascist
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No, you dumb fuck. We wish to defend ourselves from the Stalinists that have hijacked our country. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:43 | 3077858 Henry Hub
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Ya right bozo. You and the other silly assholes who fantasize about standing up to the enormous power of the U.S. government with rifles and shotguns. Like you're going to stand up to the 82ed Airborne Division and the 1st Armored Division. This is nothing more than a moronic fantasy. The time when U.S. citizens can successfully resist the government by force has long past. Get real

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 11:46 | 3078720 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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yeah tell that to al qaida dumbfuck. the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:50 | 3075977 10mm
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Im down with that my fellow Pennsyltuckian.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:55 | 3075723 Zap Powerz
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Good post TIS.

To add just a little more perspective on this issue:

There are 310 million people in the USA.  One person used a weapon to kill 26 people.

In other words: 1/310,000,000,000 of the population did something horrible with a gun and suddenly we have to pass EVEN MOAR! gun control laws that affect 309,999,999,999/310,000,000,000 of the population?

How fucking stupid is that? One statistically INSIGNIFICANT event occurs and suddenly the whole fucking world has to change?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075754 azzhatter
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Jon Corzine raped and fucked 1000's of people and he is still called Honorable

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:32 | 3075828 TruthInSunshine
Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:12 | 3075810 mayhem_korner
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Notice also the MSM's careful characterization that the firearms Adam Lanza used were "legally registered" to his mother.   That means he did not access the weapons lawfully (they were not registered to him).  And once he disposed of his mother, his status was that of murderer.

So the accurate description of the lunatic who shot up the kids, at the time of his entry into the school, was that of a murderer who had seized weapons unlawfully

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:43 | 3075938 TruthInSunshine
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Yep, it was intentionally skewed from the beginning by The Main & Very Lame Main Stream Proxy of Propaganda.

An accurate headline would have been along the lines of "[D]evelopmentally Disabled*, Firearm & Black Ops Video Game Obsessed Sociopath Kills Own Mother, Steals Firearms & Goes on Horrific Killing Spree."

*I use the term "developmentally disabled" because that's how the culprits own brother reportedly referred to him.


p.s. - Who here wants to debate whether a 12 gauge shotgun would be nearly as lethal, IF NOT MORE SO, in the unfortunate, grim statistical bracket of fatalities, if something such as a Mossberg 590 were used instead of an "evil, black, semiautomatic assault" rifle, under similar circumstances?

They'll be "gunning" for shotguns, next, FUDD hunters.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:46 | 3075970 crusty curmudgeon
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Good point.  And as a reminder, many semi-automatic shotguns were banned as part of the last "assault weapons" ban.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:42 | 3075939 Tekrunner
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This is a stupid argument. In a country where guns are trivial to access, crazy people like him ARE going to get their hands on war weapons.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:53 | 3075985 DosZap
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This is a stupid argument. In a country where guns are trivial to access, crazy people like him ARE going to get their hands on war weapons.

No, your statement is stupid, NO WAR weapons are allowed into the public arena, unless they are fully Background checked, and pay $200.00 per weapon, TAX.And paperwork follows it to the grave, or thext LEGAL transfer.

Learn the TRUTH, it will set you free.

Plus you need around $10,000k for a decent one.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:13 | 3076071 mayhem_korner
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$10,000k?  Boy, Benny must be printin' more than I thought.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:54 | 3076222 crusty curmudgeon
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Sorry, double post.
F&^#&^#$* slow computer

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:49 | 3076227 crusty curmudgeon
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That's what happens when you ban private ownership of all assault weapons manufactured after 1986. 

There are only so many available.

It's that "supply and demand" thing.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:07 | 3075993 TruthInSunshine
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What about cars or trucks? Those are stupid easy to get a hold of, yo.

Can you imagine if he had stolen or jacked a semi truck and smashed it into the school at a high rate of speed?

It'd be like the Bath, Michigan school disaster of 1927  all over again; maybe worse.

Or what about an attack with molotov cocktails, which are "trivially accessible" since they can be made with a fifth of strong rum or vodka (or container of sterno), a rag and a lighter?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:03 | 3076014's picture

Speaking of stupid, if guns were banned like drugs are banned then crazy people would find it as difficult to get guns as it is difficult for them to get heroin or methamphetamine today. Then the sane people would be safe.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:44 | 3076201 Freddie
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Crazy people can buy gas, cars and trucks, plastic/glass bottles to put gas in to make molotov cocktails.

They can also get elected to Congress and the Presidency, through rigged elections.  They can also run large banks.

What is your point?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:17 | 3076333 otto skorzeny
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plastic Molo bottle?I think the Polish invented those

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:52 | 3075979 Panafrican Funk...
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He was probably taking an SSRI or Ritalin/Adderall, most of which affect your norepinephrine levels.  High levels of norepinephrine are associated with high functioning from a learning standpoint (shooter was a smart kid) and akathisia, which is characterized by heightened aggression and dissociative behaviors.  These symptoms can be aggrevated through increased agonism (ie., flow) through NMDA-glutamate channels, which can be affected by diet (stuff like MSG, hydrolized proteins, protein isolates, etc.).

Ie., this kid was poisoned and drugged.



Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:16 | 3076081 sadmamapatriot
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This kid was a schizophrenic, classic age for full onset of symptoms. He was not on the RIGHT medicines and mom probably should have had him institutionalized. She paid for her denial with her life.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075751 MachoMan
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good luck trying to get 30 rd gen 3 pmags atm...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:15 | 3075830 Freddie
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I watched a PMAG video on a retailer site. I "ain't" telling you where because they have them still in stock.

They tested PMags against other comparable mags like metal USGI, metal HK's, Thermolds, Orlites and maybe Lancers.

Some guys ran em over with a bigger Chevy pickup.   They ground em with the front tires.  they did burnouts with the rears.  PMags held up. 

They had a video GI's in that hellhole Iraq (bring em ALL home now Dear Mullah O).  They were running em over with HummVees.  The PMags held up which was insane.   It finally failed with a high speed pass by a HumVee.   The Hummers are now mega heavy crew cab pickup trucks.   They must weigh at least 8,000 lbs now. 

Poor kids in Iraq and Afghanistan wasting away.  Total BS. Bring them home now!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:20 | 3075848 dtwn
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Brownell's had a 10 pack for $99 with free shipping on the day of the incident.  They are now $125.  25% return in a few days?  I'll take it.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:57 | 3075995 krispkritter
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:07 | 3076034 Hugh_Jorgan
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CTD will regret their politically-correct "roll-over" for the anti-gun lobby...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:09 | 3076049 MachoMan
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CTD has had a very large backlash in the community (last election) for price gouging...  take a look at their prices for xm855 :-)  At least they ship quickly...  [they do have circle 10 mags in stock btw and not a bad price for them]

The biggest problems with gun sales are: (a) actually being able to get guns in stock; and (b) small margins.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:38 | 3076174 e_goldstein
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CTD used to be a good company. Now I find myself buying from: for magazines and for ammo. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:06 | 3076299 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Thanks for the heads up. Pmags on CTD today = $59.00!!! I also like for bulk purchases, but they're inventory is a little low right now.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:55 | 3076795 klockwerks
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Great ammo prices at Order yesterday and received today good HP prices

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:46 | 3076450 krispkritter
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Good site for deals and comparison shopping ammo.  I regularly use them to locate hard to find items.  I found through them.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:18 | 3076089 catacl1sm
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I was wondering why there were no weapons listed on there today.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:46 | 3076211 Freddie
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CTD pulls that sh*t all the time and gun owners are on to them.  You order at one price and they change the price at checkout. Avoid.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:23 | 3076356 otto skorzeny
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capitalism bitchez-suply and demand. don't like it-don't buy it

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:20 | 3075844 piceridu
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Sorry TIS, but logic and reason are not allowed. Illogical knee jerk and hysterical reactions always take precedence. How dare you you concise, lucid arguments to prove your point.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:04 | 3076022 TruthInSunshine
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oops, my bad. I forgot Orwell's warning about "truth in a time of universal deceit."

Everyone should turn their firearms in for Carl's, Jr. vouchers for Extra Big Ass Fries.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:09 | 3076050 Edelweiss
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  You've illustrated a point many of us here are painfully aware of.  It's nearly impossible to sway someone with facts once they've committed to a particular belief or agenda.  In the early 90's, in my home state of Illinois, the governor backed a bill to ban the possession of "assault rifles" .  According to the uniform crime report at the time, only 14 deaths by rifle had occured here in the previous year.  The report gave no info on what types of rifles they were.  What an idiotic waste of time and taxpayer money. The current governor is pursuing the same path based on emotional pleas to legislators and the public.  It's easier to do that, than to address the second worst state deficit, and ongoing corruption evidently.   Illinois is home to major gun manufacturers like Springfield Armory, Armalite, and Rock River.  I'm sure they will figure out a way to keep collecting tax revenue from those makers of evil black guns, while doing everything in their power to ensure Illinoisans can't own them.  The thought of it makes me sick. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:11 | 3076314 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Springfield Armory, Armalite, and Rock River need to go galt and GTFO of that miserable state. PWS arms FTW.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:45 | 3077324 ImReady
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LMT is also in Illinois. As a resident of this god forsaken state I make a point to Only purchase from IL gun manufacturers. Talk about surviving in  adverse conditions! 

SNS Casting(also Il)  makes great cast bullets if you reload. 


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 03:02 | 3077739 Freddie
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LMT's .308 is insane. The British Army actually got smart and bought some of them.  DSA is also in Illinois.

What corrupt hell hole.  I went to Chicago or really the suburbs once.  Lots of machine tool and tool & die Germans up there.  loads of great gun companies in IL.  They should all leave.

If the Dems go after guns - gun owners need to boycott those F's in Hollywood.  Hit them in their pocket - Hollywood scum will make the Dems back down.  They love their $$.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 18:51 | 3088604 TruthInSunshine
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LMT is definitely top tier (and I'm not one to focus obsessively on "the chart," since testing is as important as individual component specs, and LMT does both correctly).

The best part about LMT is that if you can tell your wife you merely bought some more tools from "Lewis Machine & Tool Company" if she sees the charge on your credit card statement.

And yes, the .308 they're providing to the Brits is quite accurate and extremely reliable.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:59 | 3076275 Agent P
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As saddened as I am over the events of last Friday, I am glad to see at least a few people are thinking rationally on the subject. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:06 | 3076296 quasimodo
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Ah yes, Cerebus. The greek mythology dog with three heads that guards the underworld. How ironic, and started by a joo to boot.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:29 | 3076389 alangreedspank
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Good post. Same could be said about gamers: most of the mass killers played violent video games, but let's forget about the astounding majority of gamers who will never commit a violent crime.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:05 | 3077034 Go Tribe
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"The culprit was anti-social and was inclined towards non-empathy"


Hard to find fault with that.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:28 | 3075887 aerojet
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The media seems so desperate to push their masters' gun control agenda.  The only problem is, a large number of people just aren't buying it.  Instead, what they are buying is more guns, mags, and ammunition.  I happen to think that that, too, is an irrational gesture, but it seems awfully hard to communicate with our representatives in government these days.  Going out and buying a gun sends a really clear message about "shall not be infringed" though.  And honestly, why should my rights suffer because some mental piece of trash committed a violent crime?  And spare me all the warm fuzzies about how difficult it is to deal with mentally ill people--as long as they make no overt threats to anyone else, that is one thing.  As soon as they become violent, that is quite another. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:15 | 3076324 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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I admit I felt somewhat reactionary and irrational buying up pmags today, but I share your reasoning. The MSM is pushing the meme that society wants, neigh, DEMANDS strict gun control legislation, and that Obama and congress therefore have a mandate to oblige. Record sales of guns, mags and ammo serves as a strong counterweight to the mainline propaganda.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:27 | 3076380 1100-TACTICAL-12
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just got home with a nice little 9 for the wife. had to wait 2 hrs for background check all ATF circuts were busy.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:32 | 3075614 SheepDog-One
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Reading their script.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:38 | 3075640 BC6
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If only we could see this same anger and call for action from the political elite to stop the looting and prosecute the banksters who have indirectly caused infinite more pain and suffering than the 20 children and 6 adults tragically killed in Newton, CT.

Or to ban the violence coming from the cesspool of filth called Hollywood.

Or to talk about the real problem, which was this kid's mental health.


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:40 | 3075649 Bad Attitude
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Maybe gun inventories have been depleted by the record sales?

No, I don't think so either. Again, the media is lying to us, and they wonder why their market share if dropping.

Buy guns, magazines, and ammunition while you can.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:17 | 3075835 Freddie
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Do what Elvis did.  Buy a gun and shoot out your TVs.  ALL TV and ALL of Hollywood are total s**t.   Screw The Matrix.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:43 | 3075662 mayhem_korner
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I thought they said that SR and Remington stocks were falling.  In any case, it's still yes, yes, yes and yes.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:56 | 3075730 Banksters
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A New Record: $66.3 Billion in US Arms Sales Abroad in 2011

Obama Claims 78 Percent of World's Market Cough...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:40 | 3075934 dtwn
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I was in my early teens back in '94, had gone to a gun show with my mom prior to signing of the assault weapons ban.  Begged her to buy me an UZI ($1500 at that time) for investment purposes/to preempt the gov when I would be old enough to own it.  Not surprisingly she did not.  I did however buy a couple 25rd mags for my Ruger 10/22.  When I sold it a few years later, that was a strong selling point and increased the value of the package.

 Believe me, this is still fresh in my mind and I guarantee it is in the mind of others who are old enough to remember.  Any talk of gun regs and sales are going to go through the roof.  Good time to learn gunsmithing I suppose, not everyone knows how to take care of their firearms.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:34 | 3075621 Cognitive Dissonance
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"The media does not want you to see this."

A concealed carry permitted armed citizen showing the mall shooter there is someone who is willing to fight back?

Nah, it doesn't fit into the fear agenda.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:44 | 3075666 mayhem_korner
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"Gun control" = I control my guns


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:46 | 3075678 cornedmutton
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I have a very strict gun control policy.

If there's a gun anywhere near me, I want to be in control of it.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:51 | 3075702 knightowl77
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If we meet, keep your hands off mine   ;-)

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:02 | 3075771 MachoMan
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no shit...  that's a good way to get shot.  Might be a bad idea when he's around cops too...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:12 | 3075820 otto skorzeny
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if its in NYC you don't have to worry too much about getting hit by accurate fire.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:51 | 3075976 crusty curmudgeon
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:50 | 3075978 crusty curmudgeon
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+1 Sad but true.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:56 | 3075732 I Am Not a Copp...
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Gun control = Always keep both hands on the weapon

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:17 | 3076334 Agent P
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Before I bought any of my guns, I bought a gun safe.  Control your guns, indeed.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:46 | 3075677 AchtungAffen
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Yeah, always the lone ranger fantasy of Americans. Like how many said if people had weapons on that theatre where the batman shooting occurred, everything would be fine (disregarding smoke, darkness of the theater and later police intervention not knowing who was the original shooter).

This post and these sort of comments are the true cognitive dissonance.

It's not that America is particularly more violent than other similar countries. It's just more lethal. Because it's a society permeated with guns.

Damn, I live in a country who had multiple coup de etat, who had a dirty war were 30000 just vanished from the face of the earth and all. And if you speak to everyday people NOBODY would be telling you the gun fantasies I see from Americans. Thank heavens over here weapons are not socially acceptable. And thus we have a lot less gun deaths per capita than the US, even though we still have violent crime of sorts...

And freedom wasn't won from the Juntas by the force of arms, but by the force of the people TOGETHER and the awful missteps that military govt commited. Should be a lesson to all those fatty military wannabes in their "liberty" militias or whatever. Freedom was communally won, not through individual gun toting fat-asses. Not even through guns.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:58 | 3075747 Zap Powerz
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Question.  Did the 30,000 people that just vanished have guns?  Also, did the people that effected the coup de tats have guns?  Just curious.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:04 | 3075775 Killtruck
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I can't remember the last time America had 30,000 people vanished and multiple coup de 'etat...wait a minute...never. Great advertisement for guns you have there, paco.

And regarding the Aurora shooting, here's some facts to put in your pipe of douchebaggery:

The ONLY effective countermeasure to active shooters has been the sole responder. 2/3 of the time the responder was a civilian, and 80% of the time that person was unarmed.

There has not been a single active shooter scenario where multiple police officers gathered together and went into the building to stop the shooter, because by the time police arrive and organize, it's over.

Maybe the reason why you see "lone ranger fantasy" is because in the real world, you're probably going to be on your own. And you can hope that you packed your balls that day, because you're going to need them.

Communal force of the people is horseshit - freedom is won by individuals who band together with a common purpose. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:21 | 3075851 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"There has not been a single active shooter scenario where multiple police officers gathered together and went into the building to stop the shooter, because by the time police arrive and organize, it's over."

When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:04 | 3076024 Cognitive Dissonance
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The cops are not here to protect you from the bad guys. They are here to protect the corporate bad guy's personal and corporate property from you. Oh.....and they are a reliable income source for the government corporations.

While many now understand that (state sponsored) war is a racket, few realize this also extends to the local/state police. There are plenty of exceptions to this broad statement, but the days of foot patrol community policing are long gone.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:26 | 3076371 otto skorzeny
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the only thing I ever get out of cops is a surly-"what the f*** are you looking at" look

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:37 | 3076417 Agent P
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I know some good cops who have put themselves in harm's way to protect civilians from bad guys.  I think cops get a bad rap because more often than not the shit goes down before they can arrive, so people view it as a failure of providing protection.  But by and large, I think most cops would do everything in their power to eliminate a threat to public safety given the opportunity.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:05 | 3075784 MachoMan
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So is it your thesis that the community's actions took longer or shorter than if they had access to firearms?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:15 | 3075829 Bicycle Repairman
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So you aren't an American then?  Well this is an Americans-only discussion and you can GFY.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:37 | 3076171 BlackChicken
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Excellent. You beat me to it.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:18 | 3075837 Canucklehead
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Your freedom was won because your freedom fighters operated from a "safe" base where others protected them until they had a chance to get their word out.

Your freedom fighters had support from .... ???

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:19 | 3075845 Freddie
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Sounds like that kleptocracy Argentina.   The one where Kirschner stole everyone's private pension not long ago.   If it is Argie then you are a ****king sheep. 

The country has every natural resoruce you could think of except productive and honest people.  

The place must have attracted the worst elements of Italy. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 00:19 | 3077568 DoChenRollingBearing
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Argentina is my guess as well.  I have been there, and even with our problems, I prefer Amerka.  Obama is a problem though.  Four long years ahead.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:43 | 3075947 ebear
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"And freedom wasn't won from the Juntas by the force of arms"

Perhaps not in your neck of the woods, but there are examples where it was, specifically Cuba and Nicaragua.  More to the point, it's not about winning so much as raising the cost to your oppressors to the point they think twice.  It's also about dignity.  The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto had no chance of victory and yet they fought to the bitter end.

Guru Gobind Singh, 10th guru of the Sikhs and founder of the Khalsa made this a matter of doctrine for all who follow the Sikh Panth.  "When all else fails, it is righteous to take up the sword."  You can't do that if you don't have a sword, and if they try to take that from you, it's safe to say that all else has failed and to go down fighting.

Live as a slave if you wish.  Slave to the old order, slave to the new.  It makes no difference.  Like they said in Russia.  Today me.  Tomorrow you.  Your only real choice is how you respond.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:48 | 3076223 Freddie
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Sikhs are generally good and honorable people.  You don't want to F with them either.  They are tough hombres.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:44 | 3075948 Thisson
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You're a fucking retard.  Did you ever consider that the fact that American citizens collectively own hundreds of millions of firearms is, perhaps, one of the reasons why we haven't allowed 30000 people to "just vanish" unlike your pussified citizenry?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:53 | 3076241 Freddie
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Everyone should read Alexander Solzhenitsyn's books.   He was in the Soviet gulags.  He wrote that when Stalin's goons came, the public should have banded together with shovels, knives or whatever and tried to kill the Soviet goons.  He said afetr a few got killed maybe they would not be so bold.  

Disarmed people are sheep.  Americans who watch TV and Hoillywood Tarantino/Miramax/Spielberg or any other crap from them are sheep.

Hollywood and TV want you disarmed.  Keep supporting them sheep.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:22 | 3076886 klockwerks
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:51 | 3077341 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AchtungAffen said:

Damn, I live in a country who had multiple coup de etat, who had a dirty war were 30000 just vanished from the face of the earth and all. And if you speak to everyday people NOBODY would be telling you the gun fantasies I see from Americans.

Damn, I live in a country that has pantomime presidential elections every four years and that has 30,000 just vanish from the face of the earth and all because of texting while driving. And if you speak to everyday people NOBODY would give a shit about the way you do things in Liechtenstein.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:38 | 3075629 Randall Cabot
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Meanwhile, Hollywood scumbags like Tarantino keep making movies that incite violence. Tarantino should be arrested, given a fair trial and then hung for making movies like Django Unchained:

Tarantino tires of defending ultra-violent films after Sandy Hook massacre

The Django Unchained director spoke at a press conference in New York a day after Friday's Connecticut massacre

"I kill all the white people in the movie. How great is that?"


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:50 | 3075698 otto skorzeny
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2 of the biggest non-Jewish POS in Hollywood-Foxx and Tarantino

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:07 | 3075801 The Shootist
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I was disgusted by inglorious bastards. Tarantino's a degenerate deviant. Man's on fucking drugs.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:15 | 3075823 Lore
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I notice during the funeral coverage after the Newtown shooting that at least some parents were Jews. (You could tell from the prayer caps.)

And the killer wrote some kind of letter, but large portions of text were blacked out. I wonder if the shooter intended to single out Jewish children for some reason.

We haven't been given any indication of the kid's motives.  The Asperger explanation is BS.  I know people with Aspergers who are good, level headed individuals, love kittens and wouldn't hurt a fly. So let's not start stigmatizing people with Asperger's, who in some ways are more critical and less emotional thinkers than the average member of the electorate.

As usual, there is more to the story than the authorized crumbs we are given.


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:16 | 3075834 Bicycle Repairman
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"I wonder if the shooter intended to single out Jewish children for some reason."

There is no reason to think this.  None.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:19 | 3075838 Mad Mohel
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The media's primary purpose now is to create division. The more fractures the better.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:24 | 3076104's picture

The media's primary purpose is to subvert or break your will. The fracturing comes from the struggles of those who won't go down easy.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:20 | 3075841 francis_sawyer
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Oh of course... Naturally...


All I can say is if jews could even remotely be spun to be target victims of this, then the fucking jew media would be all over it like white on kosher rice...

Problem is... Most people are finally getting wise to the bullshit...


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:26 | 3076363 Randall Cabot
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"We haven't been given any indication of the kid's motives. The Asperger explanation is BS. I know people with Aspergers who are good, level headed individuals, love kittens and wouldn't hurt a fly. So let's not start stigmatizing people with Asperger's, who in some ways are more critical and less emotional thinkers than the average member of the electorate."

It's not the Asperger's, it's the meds-and our jew supremacist-inspired Frankfurt School culture.

I think there were twe jew victims out of 26, silly to suggest that jews were the target. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:42 | 3075941 dtwn
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Fucking brilliant movie.  Sorry you have no imagination.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:42 | 3075942 New England Patriot
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I walked out of Inglourious Basterds.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:03 | 3076291 Freddie
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Tarantino/Miramax/Weinstein brothers is all about sadism, murder, cruelty and suffering. There is nothing "artistic" about gore, sadism, cruelty and murder.   Tarantino and his black racists actors who hate whitey are the lowest scum.

Screw ALL of Hollywood and Screw ALL of TV.   They want you disarmed - PERIOD.  Keep being a sheep by giving them money or wantch any of their crap.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:57 | 3075739 Mad Mohel
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:24 | 3075863 Freddie
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Tarantino had Kill Bill and the new one with racists Foxx and Sam Jackson should be title Kill Whitey.

They are backed by the Miramax Weinstein brothers spewing misery, sadism, murder and gore.

Tarantino's crap is not just killing but sadistic killing and misery.  F Hollywood and F TV.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:27 | 3075880 August
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Fair trial?  We don't need no steenking fair trials.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:59 | 3076004 El Viejo
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Let's see. Tarantino makes a movie that caters to 13% of the population and possibly offends most of the rest. Voting with your feet could have a powerful effect on this.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:44 | 3075667 SmallerGovNow2
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Great story, thanks.  Doesn't fit their narrative...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:14 | 3076065 Abiotic Oil
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The controlled media (which we have all seen how powerful its propoganda generation is through the last two Ron Paul campaigns) is now saying there is a majority support for gun control (because we're a democracy, not a Republic right ?!?!? WTF...) and gun sales are falling and stupid "Elmer (I hunt and hunters don't need no assault rifles) Fudd" politicians are now ready "to talk", and the brainwashed "progressives" who feel the need to "civilise" the country through disarmament are juxtaposed against the reality of sales and background checks going ballistic (pmag 30's are getting mighty hard to find in stock) while more and more Americans are arming themselves and saying "that's it, you can't have them."

The PTB really want to start a shooting fight.  If that happens then they can really crack down as the gloves are off.  The police state apparatus is in place.  Internal TSA weapons checkpoints on our highways (but no armed guards at schools).  They need to have a use for those municipal police who have armored vehicles with .50 Brownings turret mounted on top right?  What better use than driving through the walls of some "right-wing, crazy prepper-hoarder, mentally unstable bitter clinging, backwards Constitutionalist gun-nut who doesn't understand the Founders were talking about hunting with musketts when they wrote the Constitution, and should be killed outright,"?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:38 | 3076172 vast-dom
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:45 | 3076414 franzpick
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Thanks 'takeaction'. Here are 2 more examples: armed Israeli mall shoppers thwarting 3 armed terrorists planning a multiple site attack, and 2nd, after hearing shots,  Mississippi high school principal Joel Myrick running to get his gun from his car (campus was, until then, a 'gunfree zone'), confronting the shooter who was next planning to go shoot up the junior high, who then hit a tree trying to escape armed Myrick, and was held at gunpoint until the police eventually arrived:

Many are surmising why obama censored out from his other massacre references the 13 dead/29 wounded Fort Hood massacre, "the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil since September 11, 2001" (Senate report), by Palestinian descendant, Islamic extremist and Anwar al-Awlaki petitioner, Nidal Malik Hasan?

John Lott has done the worldwide math on gun control (it doesn't add to zero), and it is sickening to watch exploitive american leaders from president on down jawbone citizen taxpayers along what will be one more wasteful, dead end, bureacratic and tragic road which eventually the entire country will have to walk back.  The answer is hiding in plain sight: Israel encouraging some 1/3 of its populace to remember to carry their guns, resulting in the world's lowest homicide/attack rates. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:27 | 3075582 ParkAveFlasher
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Pelosi + "guns" = Jeffrey Christian + "silver"

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:46 | 3075679 mayhem_korner
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I bet Pelosi is a big advocate of silicone "guns".  Y'know, double-Ds for all along with matching botox cheeks.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:54 | 3075721 otto skorzeny
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I would speedbag those old titties-followed up by a donkey punch

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075746 Mad Mohel
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I've been saying it for years, these old broads need a good reaming to take the edge off. They would soon drop these rabid agendas they have.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:48 | 3075968 Rapada
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Yeah but who you gonna find to do it . . ? <queasy>

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:50 | 3075974 Disenchanted
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Ok then, how about you take one for the team and give Ms. Pelosi a ride on your baloney pony. Thanks in advance.


I'm curious as to the primary payment method for all these gun cards?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:21 | 3076096 Mad Mohel
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Well it's 50/50, but I would chance it. The way I see it, it's Pelosi, nobody has probably been near the cooter for fear of the mouth and personality attached to it. That being the case it may be pristine and quite lovely. Or it might have teeth.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 00:08 | 3077548 BlackChicken
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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:41 | 3075654 slaughterer
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2013 will be the year of anti-prepperism.  

Drones will focus their efforts primarily on preppers.

Guns will be taken away.

Gold will be impounded.

Food reserves will be confiscated to save the Obama minions.


Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:48 | 3075685 mayhem_korner
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Then you will have all out civil war.  We'll call it 'The Drone Wars'.


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