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Gun Sales Soar In Aftermath Of Newtown Killings

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As so often happens when dealing with the fickle public, the aftermath of the news of the second worst school massacre in US history has led to precisely the opposite outcome to the one desired by the media and at least part of the general population. Because in the backlash for gun control at its tamest, and against weapon ownership of any kind at its most rabid, driven primarily by those who don't own weapons, everyone else decided to think one step ahead and preempt what may soon be yet another governmental subjugation of a constitutional amendment. The result? An absolute surge in weapon sales in the days following last Friday's tragedy.

The Guardian reports:

Karl Durkheimer is more coy than might be expected of a man with a pistol on his hip.

 

Durkheimer's gun shop looks to have enjoyed record sales of semi-automatics – "modern sporting rifles", as he calls them – and handguns at the weekend. But he doesn't want to talk specific numbers.

 

Nor is he terribly keen to speculate on the causes of the sudden demand. But he acknowledges that it probably has everything to do with a man killing two people with an assault rifle last week in a Portland shopping mall less than 10 minutes drive away, and Friday's massacre of 20 small children and seven adults on the other side of the country in Connecticut.

 

"Handgun sales are up substantially and modern sporting rifles are up astronomically," he said after a few days when his shop, Northwest Armory, was packed with buyers sizing up the most popular pistol in the US, the Glock, and the military-style AR-15 assault rifle, which also comes with a pink stock for women. "The people you see are twofold. There are first-time buyers who are in fear of what the future will bring. But most of what you saw is people hedging their bets that there might be a political policy put forward by the liberal side of the government."

 

Durkheimer means his shoppers fear that the shock of the Newtown, Connecticut, killings might cause the public and Congress to support a reinstatement of the ban on some of his most popular lines.

 

That's a picture replicated across the US from California to Louisiana, and even in Newtown where Robert Caselnova said his gun shop saw high demand for assault rifles in the days after the killings. The nationwide increase in sales was reflected in longer than usual delays for legally required background checks which in some cases took hours rather than minutes.

 

The surge in sales is not unusual. Following a mass killing at a Colorado cinema in July, applications to buy guns rose more than 40% in a week. The murder two years ago of six people during an assassination attempt against congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was badly wounded, prompted a 60% increase in gun sales in a single day in Arizona.

And while we have been following the slow and steady rise in gun sales, punctuated by two key events which have sent gun sales soaring, namely the Obama election and reelection, the pick up in sales seen last weekend is unprecedented. And to confirm fears that whether by way of the Second Amendment or not, various chains may halt gun sales, earlier today we got confirmation from Dick's Sporting Goods that they have suspended sales of rifles nationwide:

Dick’s Sporting Goods Inc. (DKS), the largest U.S. sporting-goods chain, has suspended sales of modern sporting rifles in the wake of the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, as the community mourns victims of the massacre.

 

Sales of all guns have been stopped at its store closest to the shooting, the Coraopolis, Pennsylvania-based company said today in an e-mailed statement.

 

Dick’s is pulling the products after 26 people -- mostly children -- were killed during a Dec. 14 shooting rampage at an elementary school in Newtown. The chain, which has more than 500 stores in the U.S., sells guns and ammunition in stores and not online, according to its website.

 

“We are extremely saddened by the unspeakable tragedy that occurred last week,” the company said in the statement. Dick’s is removing the guns “out of respect for the victims and their families.”

Noble gesture, to be sure, but all it is really doing is leading to even greater sales at all other gun retailer outlets. And indeed, as fears that more and more companies may halt sales, the scramble to weaponize themselves, will keep Americans busy for days and weeks to come.

On the question of how gun owners see last Friday's tragedy, the Guardian had this to add:

The buyers regard the Newtown killings as a tragedy, but view any connection to their right to own weapons as a political ploy aimed at depriving them of their guns.

 

"It's terrible what happened. It's just plain evil," said Richard Merritt on the steps of the gun shop after browsing assault rifles with a thought to buying himself one for Christmas to supplement the handguns and hunting rifle he owns.

 

"But there's people trying to use that to say I'm responsible because I own a gun. Where's the connection? The only people making one are doing it for political ends because there's not one of these massacres would ever have been stopped by a law that takes my gun away. But now they're talking about doing that again, I think this may be the time to buy."

 

Durkheimer is sick of gun owners being painted as the problem. Like many, he feels demonised and vilified for the crimes of a few because he enjoys hunting and shooting ranges. That puts him on the defensive when groups campaigning for tightened gun regulation might be better off trying to win him over with assurances that their calls to restrict the sale of assault rifles and magazines that hold large numbers of bullets won't end with the confiscation of handguns and hunting rifles.

 

"It's just another thing that will drive a wedge between us. Instead of the United States being a melting pot it's more polarised," he said.

Well, class warfare in the US is nothing new. And of course, what is most ironic, is that it is precisely the fear of forced, unilateral rejection, by either or all three branches of government, of the original constitution and its various amendments that has Americans scrambling into gun stores. And thus the closed loop nature of the problem: by threatening to take away America's guns, the government is only exacerbating a problem that is steeped in 200+ years of history and is engrained deep in American psychology.

What is the solution?

We don't know, but we do know that the government stepping in confident it can and will fix and regulate everything is precisely what will only make the problem far, far worse.

We do know that heart of the problem is far, far deeper than one or more tragic mass shootings can reveal. In fact the full extent of the problem begins to be unmasked courtesy of the chart we showed yesterday, and which was to be found, ironically enough, in the most recent Smith and Wesson investor presentation.

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Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:52 | 3075711 crusty curmudgeon
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Oh, please, brilliant and superior one...please explain to mere commoners like me how that's a slippery slope fallacy. 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:04 | 3075774 crusty curmudgeon
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I am not joking and you just proved my point.  I wanted to see you put the fallacy in writing--to explain it--because I know you can't.

You wouldn't know a logical fallacy if it bit you in the ass.  I've seen you use it yourself while, within a mere few posts, incorrectly blame others for it by citing this same page.

That's all you can do is cite the logical fallacy, which you have obviously never read or understood. 

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:09 | 3075804 Flakmeister
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The argument was "If we control guns the result will be concentration camps"...

Are you that fucking thickheaded?

I didn't know Canada had concentration camps or any one of number of other countries that have tougher gun laws than the US....

I don;t care about your guns, but if you say stupid shit like that it shows you to be a fool....

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:24 | 3075865 crusty curmudgeon
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Your response to "explain the slippery slope" is "I didn't know Canada had concentration camps or any one of number of other countries that have tougher gun laws than the US...."

Really?  Is that your best explanation of how the slippery slope fallacy was used here?

Most preppers I know or have read have either said or likely would say, "I hope I never need this.  I would love it if I'm wasting my money and my grandchildren will think I was a lunatic.  That would make me happy."

The point made was that it is better to have prepared and not need to have done so than to never have prepared at all.  Pointing out an extreme example of this is not an example of the slippery slope fallacy.  Since you apparently have never understood this fallacy you keep citing, let me spell it out for you:  He's not suggesting that nothing short of that is possible.  He's simply making a point.

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:30 | 3075890 Flakmeister
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That was not what he implied and you know it...

Quit fucking around...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:04 | 3076019 fuu
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You first.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:21 | 3076346 El Oregonian
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I'll tell you what I implied. In 1928 Hitler initiated the Nazi Gun Law which effectively introduced GUN CONTROL. During the course of his reign he made gun ownership highly regulated with ownership of guns by annual PERMIT ONLY, eventually refusing to update those permits therefore requiring civilians to turn in their firearms. It was easy for police to round-up and confiscate those permitted firearms since a paper trail had been established.

Here's an article you might want to read next time you open your piehole on gun control:

http://usa-the-republic.com/jurisprudentia/firearms_1.html

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 19:56 | 3076800 Lednbrass
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Gun control in Germany started long before Hitler. That article implies that he somehow did something new, that was not the case.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:23 | 3076891 Freddie
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A lot of brave Germans died trying to rid the cancer of Hitler.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:03 | 3076016 dtwn
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Ummmm, no.  Perhaps you should brush up on your English reading/comprehension skills.  The argument was not gun control = concentration camps.  While the idea should have been expanded, I believe the intended meaning was that if there is no access to guns, what are you going to do in the event of an extreme assault against your freedom.  But I could be wrong.  Also see: Poland, 1939.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:59 | 3075745 Global Hunter
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Flakmeister you have been acting like a meterosexual bitch the last few days on here, grow a pair would ya

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:05 | 3075786 Bay of Pigs
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A few days?

How about 2 years and 38 weeks?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:07 | 3075797 francis_sawyer
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better specify... [s]he might interpret that to be 'tits'...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:34 | 3075911 Flakmeister
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I posted anonymously for ~9 months before that. I started following the site very shortly after its inception, you know, when it wasn't polluted with mindless fucktards, birthers, Birchers and other associated whack jobs....

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:46 | 3075954 Bay of Pigs
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And dont forget the Global Warming douchebags...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:59 | 3076005 Flakmeister
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Yeah, thanks, almost forgot those deniers that think thermodynamics is wrong because it doesn't jive with their ideology...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:35 | 3077282 Calmyourself
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http://www.c3headlines.com/2011/07/laurens-bouwer-ipcc-lead-author-admits-there-has-been-no-significant-impact-from-climate-change.html

Yep deniers like Lauren Bouwer admitting that the sun is the real culprit.. No warming in 15 years.  I'll bet  Governmetns got tired of the pressure on energy, it was causing societal stress and have made the IPCC back off the redistribution activism using that particular hoax.  The stupidity and lack of intellectual honesty and investigation by hacks like flak know no bounds.  There should be a zoo for such perhaps Madagascar would serve..

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:36 | 3079255 Flakmeister
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Having read what she wrote, you clearly have a reading comprehension issue...

Just where did she "admit" it was the sun?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:24 | 3075862 Flakmeister
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Would having a pair mean that  I can say that ~20 people on a semi-regular basis is the price that you pay for a gun ownership society? Deal with it...

How about:

1) I do not weep for anyone involved in the latest mass shooting, I simply don't care, 1000 of kids are "lost" every fucking day in this world with a lot less fanfare...

2) I am repulsed by the fucking media circus, it almost like a ritual celebration of the violence...

3) That I find the knee-jerk reaction of a lot of fellow gun owners here to be repulsive...

4) That it was fucking hilarious that mother in this latest shitshow was alledgedly an "economic doom" prepper that thought having a modest home arsenal would enable her to survive... Hands down, my nominee for the 2012 Darwin Award... 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:49 | 3075972 notadouche
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I agree with your knee jerk reaction comment.  However I think the knee jerk reaction is happening on all sides of the equation, not just with gun owners.  Also in keeping with the series of misinformation from the MSM I don't believe Ms. Lanza was a "prepper".  She certainly didn't live like the "preppers" you see on TV.  Newtown is hardly a "southern trailer park uneducated ignorant populace that the MSM leads you to believe "preppers" are. 

Something bugs me about the term "prepper".  If I prepare for some emergency situation I believe is a possiblility then it is somehow a negative connotation.  Not that I am prepared for anything past about 6 pm tonight It's hard for me to see how preparing for emergency is seen in such a negative light.

Not sure I see anything wrong with anyone who doesn't give the govt their full faith and credit trust the govt so richly feel that they deserve.

I too am repulsed by the media circus.  They decend like vultures, pick the bones clean then move on to the next "big story" which may or may not be big.  

I don't agree with not caring about 1000's of kids being "lost" every day.  Fanfare or no, it's a damned shame.  Newtown did not ask for this fanfare.  The media and every headline seeking douche politician is jumping on the bandwagon to up their Q rating along with every celebrity "pop psychologist".  They just love to hear themselves pontificate about things they actually know nothing about.

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:06 | 3076030 dtwn
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I completely agree with your first 3 statements.  Another example of the disproportionate response in the media/gov/national conversation: 211 kids were killed in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes in 2010.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:48 | 3075971 flattrader
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For crimeny sakes.  The whole damn state of Ohio is off into some sort of bio-mass burning frenzy.

>>>Cheryl Johncox of the Buckeye Forest Council said, “Ohio is ground zero for biomass incineration and forest destruction. These proposed biomass-burning schemes will use whole trees that otherwise would not be cut. This is a double whammy: significantly reducing our major source of carbon sequestration while spewing all that carbon directly into the atmosphere. These proposals will require sixty times the amount of “forest residue” in Ohio. They will devastate Ohio public and private forests, as well as likely consume forests of other states and even Canada.”<<<

The only "genocide" planned is for Ohio trees and forests.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:26 | 3076366 WarPony
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FAIL: Take a closer look at these ovens - they're not for trees.  Plus, the incenerator was built by the Vienna Ohio Air National Guard, who were told it was for "MANURE STORAGE."  IMO, this site was for the martial law "project" that didn't go down because: 1) The Militia stood in Montana and shut down the major "Blood (Waco) Games" (Freemen - '96); and, 2) the Internet "popped" and the sheeple started to awake.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:27 | 3075825 darteaus
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And, in a free country, one should be free to make that mistake.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:31 | 3075897 notadouche
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Hey Y2K was the greatest gift Clinton ever got as it "created" millions of jobs (temporary) and trillions of dollars (based on fraud and greed) out of thin air that he got credit for but yet escaped the stink of it as it cratered in the year 2000 and beyond.  Y2K and dot com world was responsible for one of the most fraudulent era's on Wall Street which is saying quite a bit.  Slick Willy benefited as much if not more from Y2K than anyone this side of Henry Blodgett and the rest of the pump and dumpers in the late 1990's.  He got credit for a budget surplus and a "booming economy" and biggest job creating term" that in fact never really existed beyond fantasy island.  When reality met theory, reality won out as it always does.  But of course the "northeastern intelligencia limousine liberal" type that only live in the world of theory and make believe never have connected those dots as it doesn't fit their beliefs and it's easier to look down your nose at people that are not of the same ilk.  

Your post sounds as if you are mocking the "paranoid unintellectual right wing" crowd but I thought I might add a little intellectual honesty that your post is obviously lacking.   

Remember "one day the machines are going to break then the system's going to break then it will be about survival"    From the science community (NASA) apparently all it will take is one giant solar flare and the grid goes down the tubes.  When the grid goes, so too does everything you apparently rely on to get by.  I give you about a day and a half before you start begging the "nutball" next door for a helping hand.  Sad thing is he will probably help you even though your attitude suggest you wouldn't deserve it.

 

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:57 | 3075996 flattrader
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Buddy,

If the grid goes down and all the sensitive electronic circuitry is fried in a Carrington Event. Guess what???

It isn't gonna matter that the "nutball" next door has guns, green beans and gold.

Every nuke power plant affected by the event will melt down.  No working electricity.  No cooling.

A good part of the population dies rather quickly, the rest takes a while.

This ain't gonna be like "Revolution."  That idiot TV series has it all wrong.

End of Story.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:00 | 3076007 notadouche
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I'd rather be in the "quick" category than the "takes a while"  Some say life is too short.  I have thought many times life is too long.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:11 | 3076051 flattrader
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I think you misunderstand what "takes a while" means.

It is a function of how close you are to the plant, topography and weather related events.

Your gold won't save you.  Your guns may give you a few more days to finish off your greenbeans before you can't keep them down from the nausea.  By then you'll be lucky if someone takes your gun and blows your brains out.  Radiation sickness is not a good way to go from the accounts I've read.

Good luck with that.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 17:32 | 3076113 notadouche
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I totally understand what "takes a while" means.  Why would you assume I own gold or guns?  Why would you assume that I do not understand location and world events that would take place afterwards.  I simply stated I'd rather go quick than endure for whatever amount of time it would take for me to meet my end.  I simply don't care to survive when I know no one gets out of here alive no matter what.  No point in suffering through radiation sickness or Mad Max or whatever the hell else would happen in an apparent state of anarchy.  

You seem to feel the need to take a condescending tone with me that I assure you is not necessary.  Of course it probably never occurred to you that you may not be the smartest guy in the room.  You might be. I don't know.  I don't make the mistake of assuming anything about anyone and never make the mistake of underestimating another person and their intellectual capabilities or lack thereof regardless of their beliefs.  

Good luck with that.

 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 08:30 | 3077963 sink critically
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I've previously held similar opinions to those you express above, however, one small point of fact...

No one does get out of here alive no matter what.

The only variable is the timeline, and odds are most of us will die slowly trying to hide the mental pain of our own mortality if not physical discomfort as well.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:33 | 3075904 aerojet
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Probably more like: " Wow, grandpa had a lot of cool stuff!"  The media seems hell-bent on making gun owners into the new negroes.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:33 | 3075618 Flakmeister
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Meh, just sowing for the next harvest....

Does anyone know when the NRA roadshow will be in CT?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:34 | 3075622 cristo
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"Durkheimer means his shoppers fear that the shock of the Newtown, Connecticut, killings might cause the public and Congress to support a reinstatement of the ban on some of his most popular lines"

Sorry but congress and the public as become irrelevant in king Omamaland .Who need congress when he has executive orders .

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:35 | 3075623 francis_sawyer
Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:36 | 3075630 pupton
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Sig 516 Bitchez!!!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:37 | 3075636 SheepDog-One
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Fuck you Dick's....I'll definitely never buy another thing there again!

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:38 | 3075638 mdtrader
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Who cares everybody has a gun in America anyway.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:44 | 3075641 Banksters
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Obama can suck a dick.   THat fucker sells a shit load of munitions to regimes like the House of Saud and the late great Mubarak.   He has given himself unprecedented powers of execution and has BLOOD all over his hooves.  

 

Oh, and has that SON OF A BITCH ever PROSECUTED A SINGLE FUCKING BANKER?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:09 | 3075803 francis_sawyer
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Well at least you can say he is FAST & FURIOUS about his business...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:43 | 3075663 docmac324
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I am waiting for the "pre-ban pmags" going for 150.00

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:52 | 3075712 otto skorzeny
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just bought a bunch of Romanian 75 round AK drums at $100 a pop-spendy but will be worth their weight in gold

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:39 | 3077304 Calmyourself
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you can buy Asian design for $89 just saying...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:45 | 3075670 sitenine
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A very real tyranny of the majority exists. All debate is lost if not entirely moot at this point. Welcome to a new day, where your rights are nothing more than what you are told you can have by a 'democratic majority'. You will be subjugated in ways you haven't even thought of yet. Your labor will be stolen by tax, your property will be stolen by edict, and your children will be stolen by poverty. What is a society to do when the majority no longer gives a shit about freedom simply out of desire for perceived safety?

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:49 | 3075686 gwar5
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Bloomberg is the new Robespierre, a Left-wing Bourgeois dictator. A "Public servant" who thinks his life is more important than everyone elses. He has armed guards (always) but wants us to take a bullit for his broken ideology by disarming the law abiding little people he works for.

 

His "Gun free zones" are just target rich 'free fire zones'. With only one exception, every single public mass shooting since 1950 has occurred in a 'gun free zone' where people were separated from their Constitutional right to defend themselves. Those places are deliberately sought out by these killers. Michael 'Robespierre' wants more of same, for the whole country? No thanks. Idiots.

Meanwhile, the real crime spree is ongoing on Wall Street in his own little bourgeois backyard with his blessing.

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:53 | 3075718 Banksters
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Bloomberg showed his skilz when he tried to push out hurricane evacuees for the marathon.  Whadda cockstick.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:56 | 3075737 Global Hunter
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cockstring more like...if at all

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 16:15 | 3075832 francis_sawyer
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Here's hoping he meets the same fate as Robespierre... A Sante'

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 15:50 | 3075694 Troncom
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It's like an arms race between the government and their own citizens.

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