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Global Religion, By The Numbers

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Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group. A comprehensive demographic study of more than 230 countries and territories conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life estimates that there are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84% of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion. These five charts sum up the age, size, geography, and power of the world's major religions.


The study by the Pew Forum also finds that roughly one-in-six people around the globe (1.1 billion, or 16%) have no religious affiliation. This makes the unaffiliated the third-largest religious group worldwide, behind Christians and Muslims, and about equal in size to the world’s Catholic population.


The geographic distribution of religious groups varies considerably. A plurality of Jews (44%) live in North America, while about four-in-ten (41%) live in the Middle East and North Africa – almost all of them in Israel.


Nearly three-quarters (73%) of the world’s people live in countries in which their religious group makes up a majority of the population. Most members of the other major religious groups live in countries in which they are in the minority. Seven-in-ten Buddhists (72%), for example, live as religious minorities.


Muslims are a majority in 49 countries, including 19 of the 20 countries in the Middle East and North Africa. The religiously unaffiliated make up a majority of the population in six countries, of which China is by far the largest. (The others are the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hong Kong, Japan and North Korea.)


Some religions have much younger populations, on average, than others. In part, the age differences reflect the geographic distribution of religious groups. Those with a large share of adherents in fast-growing, developing countries tend to have younger populations. Those concentrated in China and in advanced industrial countries, where population growth is slower, tend to be older. The median age of two major groups – Muslims (23 years) and Hindus (26) – is younger than the median age of the world’s overall population (28)


Source: Pew Forum


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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:41 | 3080977 The Master
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Atheists should get a shout-out!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:48 | 3081012 blunderdog
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Um...but it's not a religion.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:54 | 3081033 TwoShortPlanks
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So if you eradicate the religious population we end up with about 1.1 Billion, yeah?!....well, it would seem that the Agenda 21 people have done their Math correctly.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:24 | 3081129 economics9698
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"A plurality of Jews (44%) live in North America" what a fucking shame.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:30 | 3081148 Squid Vicious
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No biggie unless you live near one of the centers of power where they have attached themselves, NY, LA, and DC...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:58 | 3081225 francis_sawyer
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0.2% Jews... Yet they control over 70% of the worldwide critical power nodes in:


- multimedia (aka: PROPAGANDA)

- banking (aka: USURY/SLAVERY)

- political lobby activity (aka: DESPOTISM/CORPO-KLEPTO FASCISM)

It's an almost IMPOSSIBLE statistical/mathematical achievement... I can only guess that it must be so because they're so popular & likeable...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:09 | 3081256 livid levity
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Genesis 27:28 is why.  And we are on the cusp of Genesis 27:39.   Something to ponder, if you are given to such ponderings.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:54 | 3081394 Max in St Moritz
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Speaking of religion and economics, please allow me to quote one of the most influential figures in American Christianity and evangelicalism.  

Pat "The Lunatic" Robertson: Supply side economics is the first truly divine theory of money creation.*


*Graeber: Debt, The First 5000 years, page 378 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:10 | 3081436 A Lunatic
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He does give lunatics a bad name..........

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:03 | 3081406 strannick
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How did you know this topic would get hijacked by jew-bashing? Cause 8 in 10 topics eventually do.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:44 | 3081730 TPTB_r_TBTF
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the jewish censorship canT repress the Truth forever.


The goal is 10 for 10.  put some more effort in! we can reach 10 of 10!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 02:03 | 3081744 strannick
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Sure you can, but your only readership at that point will be yourself and likeminded Zealots, pun intended.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 04:52 | 3081856 fourchan
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pie chart shows 80% of the world is retarded.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:00 | 3081407 Iocosus
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Please elaborate on your forecast.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 06:45 | 3081964 JimmyCDN
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Thanks, but I think we are on the cusp of Genesis 27:40, since you have given me such ponderings:


You will live by the sword and you will serve your brother. But when you grow restless, you will throw his yoke from off your neck."

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:23 | 3081999 Watauga
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You must mean Genesis 27:29 rather than 27:28.  And perhaps 27:40 rather than 27: 39.  Right?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:38 | 3082030 ugmug
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The Day and Hour Unknown

 Matthew 24:36-39


36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 09:31 | 3082135 N. B. Forrest
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So are you an Edomite?  If not, then Gen 27:39 doesn't apply. 


In fact since we are on the subject, Jer. 49:12 specifically states that there are no more Edomites in the world, they have been completely eradicated.  Therefore Gen. 27:39 is no longer a relevant prophecy. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:12 | 3081422 strannick
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Have you seen the duet of Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung singing ''Imagine'' to each other, with Slobodan Milosevic on the bongos? I found it very moving.... And almost as funny as Christopher Hitchens water-boarding himself for one second

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:40 | 3081725 Harbanger
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I noticed communist china is labeled "unaffiliated" and the former soviet union became christian.  This map represents descents of, more than actual religious affiliation.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:33 | 3081338 Pseudo Anonym
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you may be confusing this:

0.2% Jews... Yet they control over 70% of the worldwide critical power nodes

with luciferians controlling and useful jews managing it for the luciferians

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:08 | 3081430 Iocosus
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You are probably correct. They are money makers and money-driven, so it would seem this serves the Luciferians well, operating funds for control, and the scapegoat when the people get fed up and kick them out, as history has shown numerous times.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:51 | 3081729 bankerbackbacon
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Many of the Jews and pseudo Jews, also worship Lucifer, so by differenciating them this would be innaccurate. The whole idea is that the Luciferians are pretending to be Jew's but are of "the synogogue of satan."

The God of Forces, the Sun and Planets, you know, the ones that the old pagan new ager Cabalist's are all worshipping; the Mundane Satan.




Thu, 12/20/2012 - 06:03 | 3081911 Colonial Intent
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Satan is a christian concept therefore all lucy-wotsits are merely a subsect of christians.

Pagans dont believe in a 'satan' only christians do.

jeez louise get a clue.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:53 | 3082042 Disenchanted
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It was Belial for the Hebrews...


BELIAL came last, than whom a Spirit more lewd
Fell not from Heaven, or more gross to love
Vice for it self: To him no Temple stood
Or Altar smoak'd; yet who more oft then hee
In Temples and at Altars, when the Priest
Turns Atheist, as did ELY'S Sons, who fill'd
With lust and violence the house of God.
In Courts and Palaces he also Reigns
And in luxurious Cities, where the noyse
Of riot ascends above thir loftiest Towrs,
And injury and outrage: And when Night
Darkens the Streets, then wander forth the Sons
Of BELIAL, flown with insolence and wine.
Witness the Streets of SODOM, and that night
In GIBEAH, when hospitable Dores
Yielded thir Matrons to prevent worse rape.

~ John Milton Paradise Lost Book I


This (below)was really a hit the first time I posted it. /s


In The Name Of [A] God - Dream Theatre


Any day we'll all be
Swept away
You'll be saved
As long as you obey


Tools of the devil inside
Written in Holy disguise
Meant to deceive and divide
Us all

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 14:55 | 3083580 blunderdog
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Not "Christian" -- Abrahamic.

There's a flavor of Satan for the big 3--Judiasm (Belial/Ba'al, maybe some other variant names), Christianity (Satan/Lucifer), and Islam (Shaytan/Iblis).

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 06:19 | 3081919 StandardDeviant
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I hereby invoke Poe's Law.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 05:56 | 3081909 forrestdweller
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ah, the legion of rednecks has woken up.

about 60 percent of the US of A populations consists of rednecks,

and yet they they occupy about 0% of the powerful and controlling positions in this country. this is an almost impossible statistical achievement. i can only guess why....

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:55 | 3082041 Taint Boil
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95% believe, 1% don’t

95% are sheep, 1% in control

95% no money, 1% all the money

Yep, sounds about right.

Religion is a tool used by the elite to control the sheep and the sheep use religion as a tool to explain things they don’t understand and to be rewarded (when they die) for all their hard work / devotion to the elite.


It is a setup / scam that is nearly perfect. I'm in the missing 4% .......


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:25 | 3081313 Umh
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That 0.2% frightens you tough guy:)))))

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:31 | 3081484 Pseudo Anonym
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on the other hand, i hope you feel sorry for the 0.2% as they, yet again, will end up in gas chambers when the luciferians are done with them - label them as greedy, controlling money changers and let the good christians and muslims slaughter them.  you know, the old divide and conquer. and when it's all said and done, the luciferians will have their nwo.  just saying...history repeats and just the details change

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:22 | 3081132 killallthefiat
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I am a Jedi.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 05:57 | 3081910 Colonial Intent
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A world without religion?

Where do i sign up?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:30 | 3082001 Watauga
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In spite of John Lennon's wish to imagine it ain't so, it really is so.  There is no world without religion, and in this world, everyone has one.  Don't think the atheists have a religion?  Just listen to them.  They are much, much more committed to theirs than most Christians are to theirs.  Dont' think the Communists have one?  The Nazis?  We all have religion.  Always have, and always will.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 15:08 | 3083645 blunderdog
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Don't think the atheists have a religion? Just listen to them.

There are some self-described atheists who are not really atheists, just like there are some self-professed Christians who couldn't forgive if their eternal soul depended on it.

I'm an atheist and a Buddhist, myself. There's at least that one long-standing religious tradition which is compatible with atheism.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:50 | 3081207 mc_LDN
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Exactly. Religion requires a belief in a deity. Athiesm is not a religion. A belief system yes but most def not a religion.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:05 | 3081250 livid levity
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The atheist deity is self.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:52 | 3081533 nope-1004
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Agree, however there are a ton of greedy money laundering bankers and politicians who would claim they are "religious".  So there are selfish religious people too.  "Rain falls on the just and unjust alike."


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 03:36 | 3081821 CIABS
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"The atheist deity is self."

Try etymology.  Atheist = no deity -ist.

Not the self.  None, of any kind.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:38 | 3082007 Watauga
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Of course.  ALL people are about self.  The self is the spirit APART from God.  Christians, in this world, are APART from God.  We are all APART from God. 

EVERYTHING is about self vs. God.  Each human being is in a struggle in this world.  Some moments we fight God and choose self (e.g., theft, adultery, hatred of others).  Some moments we choose to put self aside for an instant and reach out to God (e.g., choosing to take Holy Communion, sacrifice self for others, sharing with others).  But, through Original Sin, and our own selfish desires, each of us is Fallen. 

WE, people, cannot save ourselves from our Fall.  ONLY the sacrifice of the Lamb of God, and His blood over the doors of our souls, will allow the Angel of Death to pass over us.  ONLY through the Grace of God can we be saved, and His Grace is present in the death, resurrection, and ascension of the Lamb, all done for us and for our salvation. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:41 | 3081574 GoinFawr
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Claiming atheists have a deity is like saying Christians don't believe in a God.


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:39 | 3082009 Watauga
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Not at all.  Atheists worship their god at all times.  Christians worship God at all times. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:59 | 3082073 Sparky_ZA
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Perhaps for a more realistic view on religion , I would perscribe a bit of George Carlin. He was a prophet!


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:18 | 3082709 GoinFawr
Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:47 | 3081733 bankerbackbacon
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Athiest exist on a plane below plant life. Their ignorance, and their reliance on their senses like fornication worshippers, is their folly.


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 02:05 | 3081755 Terminus C
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lol, you are a dumb fuck.  You are exactly the type of useful idiot that tptb will use to divide and conquer.  The funny part is, when you are doing it you will believe you are being a good christian/muslim/jew/rastafarian etc... and that your dog, erm god, will love you for your idiocy.

Fuck you, mindless idiot, when you and your religious zealot zombie army come for me, I'll send a few of you to 'heaven' first.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 02:19 | 3081763 GoinFawr
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Well, that's you entirely discredited on the subject.

 Nice avatar btw. Did you compose the image yourself, or did you steal it?

If it's the latter even Kropotkin, someone you would likely consider an ignorant, low life fornicator, could tell you that stealing is where would that place you on your heirarchy of life?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 03:40 | 3081823 Scalaris
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You are right, atheists should too ascribe meaning to things unmeritedly, while constantly anticipating an eschatological cataclysm deriving from any origin, due to the tameness of natural chaos and intractable randomness being an unfathomable notion, whose sole solution lies on the creation of prime movers, their structured systems, and their doctrines, as it is evident from the wealth of historical mythogenesis and its applied regurgitation to numerous narratives, representing various agendas.

Fuck logical application I say, embrace imposed intergenerational beliefs incontestably and with no illation, as long as one is neatly tucked in the bottom of the pyramidic intersecting structure of organized religion and populace herding, with the rest of the pack.

It is entirely natural to believe in lores regarding the immutability of every single deity, perpetually originated in every chronological plane in order to correspond to sociocultural sensitivities, along with their indisputable terrestrial prophets, who in no way shape or form adhere to the very human organizational system of religious indoctrination, maintaining its influence on civilization for representation of personal interests pertaining to pupulational and capital governship.  

Acceptance in supernaturalism is entirely ordinary, of course, in comparison to the study of archival factuality, which requires comprehension of printed material, as it is the subjective perception of this inhabited planet being the absolute centre of the divine universe, and the inexhaustible variety of scientific discoveries rendering said perception refutable should in no way be considered as a brazen testament to man-made religious absurdity.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:24 | 3082540 GoinFawr
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Thank you. I've been trying to work out which religion might be inspiring bankerbackbacon's hackneyed screeds, and your erudite missive put his/her comments into a perspective that has allowed me to make what I consider a decent guess:

I've got money on my flank that says bbb practices regurgomancy with The Brotherhood of the Amorous Tarsier (this one is even safe for work!)


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:29 | 3081299 Uncle Remus
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"Religion requires a belief in a deity."

Not necessarily. Your definition is too narrow. Communisim in considered a religion.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:40 | 3082002 Watauga
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 14:59 | 3083608 blunderdog
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A deity isn't required for something to qualify as a religion, you just need a metaphysic, a meta-ethic, and a teleology. Buddhism is considered a relgion, despite lack of belief in a deity.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:49 | 3081381 pitz
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SUKI (tm) is a RELIGION, its the "motherfucking RELIGION", The New World Religion (tm)   (this is the actual slogan....don't ask me why, it came from the Japanese marketing department!)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 16:51 | 3084056 bart.naf
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Just look up religion in your Funk n' Wagnalls.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:50 | 3081017 iDealMeat
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Religion and FIAT are exactly the same in that they require faith to exist.

FIAT in the FRNs case is different then Religion in that it you MUST practice / participate. By law decree.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:06 | 3081075 nobodyimportant
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There also is a difference between then and than.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:10 | 3081275 iDealMeat
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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:12 | 3081098 ersatzteil
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In Islam, interest and FIAT currencies are forbidden. So it's funny to see "devout" governments enforcing strict interpretations of Sharia law on their citizenry, yet using banking practices that are as opposite to Qu'ranic teachings as violence is to Jesus.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:36 | 3081325 Uncle Remus
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If you care to delve deep enough into it, you'll find that Islamic laws regarding usury are not unique to Islam nor was it the first. You may even be surprised that many of the things people like to trash Islam about were also in Christianity.

And of course, it is equally hilarious to see "Christian" governments killing every. living. thing. that passes through their sights. And the only government on record to have used nuclear weapons, on civilians, in war. But of course, Islam isn't the religion of peace either.


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:12 | 3081441 Iocosus
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Google Bohemian Grove and tell us Christians unleashed the atom bomb.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:20 | 3081513 GoinFawr
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Tibbets, Ferebee, and Parsons didn't consider themselves Christians?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:53 | 3081218 mc_LDN
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You need to clarify that comment. Religion and Fiat require "blind" faith.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:27 | 3081294 iDealMeat
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A valid point..  However, I's say Religion in is periphery wants "blind" faith.  To get to a Religions core, faith is demanded.

The US FIAT currency is "backed" by debt. Hopefully you "believe" it will be paid at par + interest.    /bernank

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:37 | 3081348 Pseudo Anonym
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"Faith is something you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe." credits: ~ Archie Bunker

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:26 | 3081312 marco1324
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So if you subscribe to the wisdom of crowds or collective wisdom there must be some kind of greater being according to this data.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:58 | 3081664 James-Morrison
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In Heaven there is no beer,  that's why we drink it here.


On earth there is no justice, that's why we drink beer.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 03:49 | 3081828 Hobbleknee
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What about the religion of Government?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 06:24 | 3081925 smacker
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Socialism. The fastest growing religion in history.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:41 | 3080979 Rbh110
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My make-believe savior is better than your make-believe savior.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:55 | 3081028 tbd108
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He isn't either (or is it a she?). And those are fighting words you low-life devil! And what's more, the sports team in my area can kick your teams butt!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:56 | 3081044 kaiserhoff
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and we have better bake sales;)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:25 | 3081140 killallthefiat
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The very proposition of God means that you cannot understand him rationally.  Good luck on proving make-believe.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:20 | 3081704 GoinFawr
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Yeah science, try dividing that one by zero.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:46 | 3080997 ghengis86
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In b4 the joo haterz/loverz

(I don't see statism listed? Surely there must have been a mistake?)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:44 | 3080999 The Alarmist
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Shame you can't further categorize by intensity of devotion.  That 31.5% for Christians would probably drop to 10%, and the 23.2% for Muslims would likely be closer to 50%.

One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested ....

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:55 | 3081223 mc_LDN
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Yeah just ask the Bankers and any Greedy politician.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:48 | 3081005 BraveSirRobin
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Or Global Warmism, a subset of statism.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:48 | 3081015 blunderdog
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So.  How can we PROFIT from this information?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:31 | 3081154's picture

Go long on crucifixes.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:49 | 3081019 tallen
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Be right back, just off to pray to my invisible savior to ask that facebook stock price goes up to $1000 and pray Lloyd Blankfein keeps up the savior's work.


/end sarcasm

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:54 | 3081035 kaiserhoff
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I'd hold off a week or two tallen.  He's busy with the football playoffs.

You've heard of Notre Dame?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:49 | 3081020 Hohum
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Greater than 80%, huh?  Maybe that explains a bit of the craziness.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:51 | 3081026 kaiserhoff
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Things we know, but don't often see in context:  Jews  -   .2%

Compare that with their influence in the world.  The Jews are better seen as a tribe than a religion, but no other group comes close.  It pays to own the media, and decide what can and can't be said in public.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:11 | 3081096 nobodyimportant
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Helps if you own all the banks and politicians and have the goyim working for you!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:17 | 3081117 nobodyimportant
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Jews of the bible = Israelites?

Current jews in Israel = Kazars?

Please correct me if I mis-stated.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:24 | 3081135 ILLILLILLI
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It would be more accurate to state it thusly:


Israelites of the Bible are not the current Zionists of Israel.



Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:35 | 3081143 nobodyimportant
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Or the Kazars are the usurpers of Palistine and are the zionists of isreal

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:21 | 3081121 nobodyimportant
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Double - sorry

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:52 | 3081031 docmac324
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Know religion, know war

No religion, no war


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:23 | 3081133 Mad Mohel
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I'm quite sure you remaining bastards would find something to fight about. The unaffiliated always love bitching about "nothing".

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:26 | 3081316 ILLILLILLI
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Some people would just as soon fight as fuck...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:47 | 3081193 ToucanSam
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Know greed, know war.

Religion is just an excuse.

Perpetually scapegoating, whether religion or guns or whatever else, only hides the true cause, individual life choices.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:51 | 3081209 Mad Mohel
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big ups.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:00 | 3081231 mc_LDN
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Super comment. Greed is intrinsically Human. So as long as Humans survive whether it be Land, Fiat, Gold, Water we'll find a reaon to fight about it.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:50 | 3082058 Sparky_ZA
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Greed is a good driver for innovation and change..... but only in a free society and not protected by some jack-off government and it's laws.

It takes all types to drive change and fuel society.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:26 | 3081308 DoChenRollingBearing
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minus 1

Joe Stalin, Mao Ze Dong.  40 million between 'em, double Hitler's total.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:56 | 3081398 GoinFawr
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How about

Know religion, know religious wars,

No religion, no religious wars.


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:40 | 3081359 Hacked Economy
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You say wars are due to religion?  Check this list from just the previous century:

* 1900 - The Boer War - S. African settlers warring over resources and land with the Commonwealth. No religion involved.

* 1904 - The Boxer Revolution - first significant use of world-wide military allies. Chinese nationalists dissatisfied with foreign intervention of the Chinese economy and culture.

* 1914 - World War 1 - national pride of several European and east-Asian nations culminated in a belief by both "sides" that a quick war of a few weeks would allow domination of the local continent. Several assassination attempts (eventually leading to Archduke Ferdinand's death) kicked off the war. The use of Allied forces in the Boxer Rev. above was a proving ground for WW1. Not seeing the religious aspect to it.

* 1917 - Bolshevik Revolution - the removal of the Russian royalty in favor of a worker-led economy, in truth controlled by iron-fisted plutocrats. Pretty sure there was no divine guidance in that one.

* 1922 - France leads an invasion into the Ruhr to take over the German industrial region, as a result of Germany's waning ability to fully repay its war reparations under the Versailles Treaty. Food and supplies were confiscated, and many Germans living in the Ruhr were imprisoned, expelled from their homes, or even killed. The French had no interest in religious conquest...they simply wanted the German steel and coal plants.

* 1930s - Imperial Japan invades Indo-China and China outright. Ethic cleansing runs rampant. Water-locked Japan seeks resources. Also during the 1930s is a disastrous civil war in Spain, which is still not truly concluded to this day, with various minority separatists looking for full-sovereign or self-governing rule. Resources and self-control are the causes of both.

* 1939 - Poland. Nazi Germany, with early concentration camps already running, is trying to overcome the Versailles Treaty, the reparations of which has forced the country into poverty for a generation. Little remembered fact: The Soviet Union also invades Poland from the east, about a month later. Allies (mostly the British Commonwealth) react. Again, a war about national pride, and lebensraum -- living space.

* 1949-1952 - China. The Red Purge kills between 25 and 35 million people. A forgotten cleansing, this time political, only 3 short years after the UN was created and chartered to stop genocide. Super epic fail.

* 1953 - Korea. After fighting WWI, the memories of Stalin invading Poland with Germany is well-remembered by the US and the West, who worry that if Korea falls to the Communists, all of Asia will. War is about self-control to Koreans, but about entente to the Soviets & China vs the U.S.

* 1963 - 1975 - Vietnam. Hawks from the US political and military circles are worried when France cannot control it's former colony's attempt to turn to communist rule by Ho Chi Minh. Self-control and communism vs capitalist and US-preferred governance. Not religious.

I haven't even got to Somalia, Rwanda, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Congo, etc. Nor can I spare your time and mine to talk about Napoleanic adventures, or Spain, the British or Netherland conquests. Wars of Germanic tribes, the Vikings, Saxons, Jutes, etc. etc. -- they're all about the same thing: taking resources.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:48 | 3081719 palmereldritch
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And the Illuminati are an elite psycho cult obsessed with taking resources and controlling power. 

Not a religion (the numbers are too few) but close.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:14 | 3081594 SilverRhino
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Tell that to the 100 million killed by atheist Soviet and Chinese communists .... fuckstick.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 20:59 | 3081050 Squid Vicious
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juxtaposed pie chart of media and financial institution ownership by "religion" would be interesting... just sayin

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:02 | 3081053 akak
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I demand representation for the Pastafarian Church and the one true god, the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster, meatballs be upon him! 
May all ZH readers be blessed by the touch by His Divine Noodly Appendage.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:18 | 3081119 ILLILLILLI
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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:09 | 3081433 GoinFawr
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Pesto be with you.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 08:23 | 3082026 Uncle Remus
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Yo, kin I get some more sauce, garlic bread and peppers over here please? Oh, and some vino.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 09:14 | 3082101 Disenchanted
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Sorry, you're not pure enough to partake of the holy foods. Only the high priests qualify ;p

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:43 | 3086215 Uncle Remus
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Figures. C'est la vie, non?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:06 | 3081074 PUD
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Since there is only one god and there are many whose god is vastly different from the others....the odds of having picked the right god to sing praises to is not good. In fact, there are over 3000 known gods each of which was worshiped as "the" one. Taken in whole that would mean that the odds of you having the right god is less than 3000 to 1.

I myself prefer the monkey god. Bad ass.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:20 | 3081120 PUD
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Hanuman is an important character in theRamayana which depicts him as the epitome of devoted service and loyalty. His search for the heroine Sita, captured by Ravana, illustrates his superhuman powers and zealous performance of the tasks assigned to him. When he came to know that she was held captive in Lanka, Hanuman crossed the channel between India and Lanka with a giant leap. On being captured, he set Lanka on fire with his flaming tail and returned to Rama and helped him in many miraculous ways to besiege Lanka. Twice he flew to the Himalayas to collect medicinal herbs for his wounded companions. After the war, his wish to remain as Rama’s faithful servant was granted. Every Rama temple has an idol of Hanuman as a minor deity. His worship is believed to destroy all evil.

See? Totally bad ass god...would kick your gods ass for sure.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:31 | 3081482 GoinFawr
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Probably just one of the Cercopes Zeus transmorgified.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:23 | 3081136 Racer
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Brainwashed and addicted by parental programming

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:33 | 3081162 nmewn
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Lindsey Lohan?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:26 | 3081142 Hangfire
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I didn't see Hipsters in there, isn't that pretty much like a religion now?   

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:24 | 3081547 GoinFawr
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They were their own religion before it was cool.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:36 | 3081153 I am a Man I am...
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This is why intelligent life from other galaxies just fly the fuck on by.

Edit:  first up arrow by me, still laughing at how funny i am

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:32 | 3081159 q99x2
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I'm an insectian. We are the largest secret religion and will take over the world if humans can't control their banksters.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:50 | 3081204 monoloco
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More evidence that the majority of people on this planet are mindless sheep.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:00 | 3081557 GoinFawr
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nice catch.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 06:37 | 3081938 Bangin7GramRocks
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This is Riley Martin! I'll have my seat on the mothership. The Reptiliians and Tarkshesians will be brutal and destroy without compassion the rest of you lousy motherfuckers!!!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 21:51 | 3081211 bankonthebust
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Jews are the .2 percent. The irony...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:17 | 3081219 Aurora Ex Machina
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Irony: All of them are going to be majorly pissed when they realise their 1,500 - 3,000 year old myths are a little bit defunct. Then again, there's a long history (Western) of killing your Gods.

Hint: Here's the logically tight, unwavering response to Religion. If God is Omnipotent [assuming a monotheistic religion, we can do the rest later], then homo sapien's mind is already fully understood by God. As such, any product of said mind is already part of God, and part of his plan. Of course, we can instantly say: "Yes! But how we use it is a test from God!".

Fair enough. That's called the "Lucifer clause".

But the next "Religious" person who tells you science isn't from God is an apostate and a heretic. What's that? 45%+ of Americans? Yeah. The Second coming really isn't going to be like in your 1,800 year old book of male patriarchal lies. Free tip: both God and Lucifer (if you put value into this silly dynamics - Milton, Paradise Lost, Book VI I think, "War in Heaven", exposes this silliness; the Jews just call him "the adversary" and credit it with testing humans) want humans to evolve. As for organised Religion? All wrong, all liars.


There is no organised Religion on earth at this point that represents "God".


No evolution? Failed the test. If there's a Rapture, the non-evolved are the ones going to be left behind. And by that, I mean, eaten. It's that simple.

Oh, and expect us to be a bit irked by the lack of fish. Seriously. Pissed. Off. Put it this way: when your pet dog shits on your rug, what's your reaction? Yep, same response to when you eradicate entire ecosystems out. It's not like they contain unique DNA that has serious economic pay-offs in them, is it? Not like those DNA reactions to millions of years of pressure could possibly contain massive amounts of data that could be used to benefit industry, science or medicine?

Nope. Shale gas, for the win [ignoring the fact you just eliminated the only bacteria on earth who could process, I don't know, cellulose into hydrocarbons]

Fucking Monkeys. You bitch about "God not being Good", but the reality is, you're fucking shamefully inept and pig ignorant, and worse yet: You. Failed. To. Learn.


Hiding in 2,000 year old literature is not the point; worse yet, using the "Names of God" to not only stop said evolution, but to engage in bloodshed against both "man and beast" is the only sin there is.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:24 | 3081705 Hacked Economy
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Huh?  Wut?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 14:58 | 3083598 Aurora Ex Machina
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I have a blind-spot when it comes to Religion. I'll avoid it in future.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:55 | 3086230 Uncle Remus
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It's the "other" recreational drug. Use with moderation.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:00 | 3081233 loveyajimbo
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Christians really hate to admit they are just Jews... slightly altered.  Same as Mormons are Christions... slightly altered.  All religions are based on ancient mythologies used to control the masses with their primitive fears of bad luck or eternal hellfire... (really not much beyond witch doctor stuff...) and to attack "enemies" who have different mythologies... because "God" will be impressed with fighting and killing those with "fake" mythologies...  we have not come very far... have we.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 03:53 | 3081830 AnAnonymous
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Ah, improper way of thinking.

Christians are altered versions of Jews.
Muslims are altered versions of Jews.

What gives?

54,9 pc tied to Judaism.

By 'american' way of thinking, it cant not be a majority of the world.

So you have to look elsewhere.

'Americans' love their myths and will sacrifice anything to preserve their fantasies.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:49 | 3081267 GoinFawr
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Where there is love, there is God.

Even the secular humanists won't begrudge you magical book thumpers sentiments like that. But, please, start leaving the judging of faith up to your God (Otherwise known as `practicing what you preach`).

Alternately, hurry up and finish each other off already so that those of us who prefer a reality based existence can finally have some peace from your contest over who can kill the most in their deity's name.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:12 | 3081278 ISEEIT
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Obviously...Government is the new 'religion'.

Much easier to have belief in something that will blow your brains out on the spot in response to heresy than some surely not applicable to me 'myth'.

Rock on mankind.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:19 | 3081291 Pseudo Anonym
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hmm, luciferians are not even mentioned; yet the luciferians currently run the world unchallenged with their fiat finances.  what's up with that?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 05:50 | 3081907 Colonial Intent
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Luciferans are covered as a subsect of christians.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:24 | 3081306 ZeroAvatar
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I'm a TransHumanist.  The Japanese have the new robot bodies ready to go.  They won't be needed when cloning becomes more mainstream. 


There's still some problems blueprinting the synapses, but, given time, we'll be able to transplant our brains into either a robot body or a cloned reproduction of ourselves. 


"And we shall have everlasting life".

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:36 | 3081346 Aurora Ex Machina
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Top tip, sparky:

When aging is cured, it's not going to be offered on the open market, and you probably can't afford it. Transhumanists who are stuck in silicon are stupid, and totally ignorant of what DNA / biological systems offer.




Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:25 | 3081466 ZeroAvatar
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Just don't have yourself cremated upon death.  Save a pinky, or toe or some hair.  Otherwise, YOUR dna will not be around 500 years from now (if not much sooner) to 'resurrect'.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:00 | 3081648 Aurora Ex Machina
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I know this is a foreign topic for you ultra-singularity geeks, but it already exists: It's called "having children". I know that involves that dreaded "sex" and "relationships" and all, but it's how your species was evolved.


Ignorant child.


-9000 geek points for quoting the "500 years decay on DNA" myth that has nothing to do with science; DNA degradation is entirely dependent on circumstance. Amber; pretty good. Ice; pretty good. Bottom of a peat bog; pretty good. Mummified specifically to remove organs & wet tissue in a dry tomb for 4,000 years, pretty good. And so on. Way to out yourself as a techno-wannabe without any real science there, chimp.

Hint: Any real Geek would know that your science has had DNA from mummies from about 3,500 BC for over 50 years already. Only a shallow twat reading Reddit and being a non-entity would swallow the lies about "500 years degredation". And yes, I have read the sources you're ignorantly quoting, and I have personal contact with the scientists who extract DNA from mummies.


Science, bitch; you just failed the test. Oook. Monkey. Go freeze your head; trust me, no-one is going to put you through the defrosting process, apart from perhaps to eat - or go try to mate.


Your odds on either are not good, but that's the curse of evolution.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:28 | 3081713 Hacked Economy
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You've been here on ZH for only six weeks, and already you do nothing but claw at everyone else?

You won't last long.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:50 | 3081735 tickhound
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Actually, he's been quite reserved given the many insensible replies he's had to tolerate.

IMO, it's been 6 weeks full of more capacity and discernment mixed in with art than most of the "hacks" around here could muster up in 6 years... if ever.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 09:18 | 3082106 ZeroAvatar
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Aurora Ex Machina;  ZH's new resident expert on all things.  All bow. I am awed at your presence.


(I actually liked you at first.....didn't take long for you to show your ass, though.)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 14:56 | 3083589 Aurora Ex Machina
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Not at all - feel free to GREP responses where I freely admit not knowing much about a topic. Religion is something that get's my goat, however.


On aging? There's been a slew of mice related research (here or here) this year, and it's a topic that if conquered will cause an instant shift in everything.




Very drunk posting = anger = hate, the dark side approaches, so an apology.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 07:15 | 3081994 Uskatex
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Tell me, what happens if my brain is replicated, say, three or four times on different hardware?

Which of the copies are me? And what are the others?

Just asking...

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 09:20 | 3082115 ZeroAvatar
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Logic says "All of them".  Because this is a possibility, does that negate the thesis somehow?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:42 | 3081364 toomanyfakecons...
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Bombing women and children... perfectly excusable to flag-waving Christians. Don't even get me started on the Moooooslims.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:44 | 3081368 egoist
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I would like to see the athiest segment charted out. That's a pretty broad spectrum.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:46 | 3081373 pitz
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The motherfucking SUKI (tm) RELIGION, The New World Religion (tm), with over two million members mainly in Japan and Asia, has been growing by leaps and bounds.  Don't omit the impact of emerging alternative religions.  People are simply sick and tired of the traditional old-world religions.  SUKI (tm) RELIGION (motherfucking religion) has capitalized on such, being that it is a Japanese religion founded at Mount Ikus by intellectuals, not by bible thumpers.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 22:48 | 3081378 yellowsub
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Relgions of worship should be grouped into one.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:12 | 3081568 tickhound
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Figured I'd spread some religious cheer.



-This is the dawning of the age of aquarius... da, da aquarius.

-Spring, summer, winter or fall - all... all ya gotta do is call.

-I feel good, in a special way, I'm in love and it's a sunny day... Good Day Sunshine.

-Here comes the sun, da, da, da, da, here comes the sun and I say... It's alright.



-When you see the Southern Cross for the first time,

You understand now why you came this way,

'Cause the truth you might be runnin' from IS SO SMALL,

But it's as big as the promise, The promise of a comin' day!


Amen.  Happy Holidays, bitchez.


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:52 | 3081651 GoinFawr
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Very nice tick.

Best wishes to you and yours, anyday.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 01:16 | 3081695 tickhound
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To you too, GF.  Glad someone picked up what I put down.  No shocker here that you did.


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 00:15 | 3081595 Stuck on Zero
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I want to see another chart.  Precentages of each religion in a country in a state of oppression or civil war.


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