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Obama And Biden Address Gun Control - Live Webcast

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Will there be a hint of Plan B angst in there? It seems RGR and SWHC shareholders are not too worried about what the President will say... yet...



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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:55 | 3079025 jomama
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disarm those serfs, bitchez.

on a side note, i doubt they'll say a word about their precious pharma industry drugging our children.

rumor has it that Lanza was on Fanapt when he went on his rampage.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:00 | 3079056 malikai
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I'll take this space to tell the drinkers out there that it is time for a refill. Better yet, just get the fucking bottle.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:18 | 3079144 Chief KnocAHoma
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Obama - "The time has come for some serious restrictions on Mayans. So if you see any of those little fuckers grab 'em!"

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:25 | 3079178 Pladizow
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Free men own guns, slaves dont!

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords." -Benjamin Franklin

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:28 | 3079190 malikai
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Interesting how in this oh-so-sad press conference on the deaths of so many children and how the benevolent government will fix it for us, that he's spending the whole fucking Q/A time driveling on about the fiscall cliff nonsense.

Way to display your true nature.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:34 | 3079215 economics9698
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Obama STFU.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:47 | 3079312 fuu
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Good for +10% on SWHC and +7% on RGR.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:35 | 3079220 krispkritter
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Interesting how this Nobel Peace Prize winner has killed more people with drone attacks than all of the school shootings have killed. And now he tempts a civil uprising by attempting to 'keep the peace' by banning guns guaranteed in our founding documents. If this blows up in his face, how many lives will be lost as a result...?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:48 | 3079277 fuu
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"there is a lot space between preserving our 2nd amendment rights and having no rules."

Really there are no rules on gun ownership?

Hail to the Thief!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:41 | 3079283 malikai
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At some point in this process, they're going to want/need a civil uprising.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:38 | 3079572 SomebodySpecial
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The cold war has come to america.

This time guns and ammo instead of atom bombs.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:42 | 3079287 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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For all the shit we give Obama for his mock outrage over this incident, I think it is a fair question to ask him about the dissonance between his reaction to Newtown and his kill list and drone strikes that have killed hundreds (thousands?) of innocents. I would love it if one of the press corps had enough sac to actually go there. But the best we got was, "where have you been on gun control the last four years?"

Ugh. Enough with the soft ball questions. Someone needs to hold this charlatan accountable.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:07 | 3079429 francis_sawyer
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That kind of thing would get you fired from your propaganda writing job at your local jew owned media outlet branch...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:26 | 3079192 Surly Bear
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Maybe they will start with those responsible for Fast & Furious gunwalking operation? Oh, yeah, that would be like asking OJ to investigate who killed Ron and Nicole....

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:27 | 3079195 SilverRhino
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9 in the morning and these fucks make me want to hit the rum already.   

God Damn we are fucked.  Plan accordingly. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:50 | 3079349 spyware-free
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Why have we forsaken the wisdom of the founding fathers? Shame how history's lessons are forgotten too easily.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:19 | 3079166 iDealMeat
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They should also ban Divorce..  Because who knows the consequences of breaking up family unit on a young mind who has been fed pharmaceutical drugs all his life.

And ban cars and alcohol..  they kill too..

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:33 | 3079237 aint no fortuna...
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they weren't purposely designed to kill people - guns are - they're designed to slam a small, shaped metallic object into a living organism at about 2000 feet per second in order to terminate that life instantly though the infliction of massive trauma.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:36 | 3079250 Tortfeasor
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Thank God that they were.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:47 | 3079315 spyware-free
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So how about those hypocrites in D.C. stop selling weapons to client states and foreign criminals that end up killing innocent children in places like Mexico and Gaza and Pakistan? When the gov and their agents give up their guns then I will give up mine.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:05 | 3079411's picture


they weren't purposely designed to kill people - guns are - they're designed to slam a small, shaped metallic object into a living organism at about 2000 feet per second in order to terminate that life instantly though the infliction of massive trauma.


The vast majority of firearms are never used to kill anyone. Therefore they must provide some other utility of which you are unaware. Don't try to base policy recommendations on your own lack of understanding. That's what gets innocent people killed. You have the blood of children on your hands.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:52 | 3079643 aint no fortuna...
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yah, keep smokin it dude

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:36 | 3079812's picture

You could at least pretend to be sorry that your policy of putting a sign on the schoolhouse door which says, "No one but defenseless woman and children inside," led to such a tragedy. Do you have such a sign on your own front door?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:39 | 3079578 MachoMan
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Do you want to ban muskets and bows too?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:36 | 3079850's picture

Quivers which hold more than ten arrows kill people.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:50 | 3079636 Freedom In Your...
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Not to be to anal, but the most popular assault rifle (AR-15) was designed specifically to not kill the person it hits in order to make the enemy use further resources caring and transporting the wounded.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 07:26 | 3086129 Obviousman
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"they weren't purposely designed to kill people - guns are"


And yet more people are killed with cars BY ACCIDENT than are killed with guns ON PURPOSE (or by accident, which is in the noise).  So which is really the more dangerous item?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:01 | 3079068 Abiotic Oil
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Executive Order ban coming up in 3...2...1...

Turn semi-auto into Form 4 weapons?  

Ban regular capacity mags (i.e. a 30 round mag is "normal" for an AR)

In other news, price gouging assholes Cheaper than Dirt announced they are suspending firearms sales.  Cowering like dogs to the anti-gun nuts.  But they don't have an issue with charging $60 for pmags that were $12 a few days ago.  Boycott them and put them out of business.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:04 | 3079081 Freddie
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If these criminals touch guns - gun owners should totally boycott Hollywood.  Hollywood and TV support these criminals and want you disarmed.   If you hit them in their pocketbook - they will back off.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:07 | 3079095 Abiotic Oil
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Don't forget video games where "parents" let their 8 year olds play shooters like the level in Call of Duty Black Ops where you have to kill as many innocent civillians as possible in the train station, in gory head popping detail viewd in full 1080p HD?

Total desensitizing to violence...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:41 | 3079603 MachoMan
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It's time to add some professional skepticism to the scapegoating...  There have been numerous studies on the people who commit mass murder...  want to know what is notably abscent from their conditioning?  violent video games...  want to know what is also missing from the ones who had actually been exposed to violent video games?  Some type of obsession or giving any credence or materiality to the games...  in other words, having the games be any material part of their lives.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:08 | 3079101 Hippocratic Oaf
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COLT Defense Corporate bonds offered at $67.20

almost a 20% YTM

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:23 | 3079182 boogerbently
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The "Anti gun" crowd will cause a RUSH to gun purchases.

Theses whiny libs will be the CAUSE of gun ownership to double!

I love it.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:07 | 3079423's picture

Statists are usually blind to unintended consequences.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:43 | 3079610 MachoMan
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The rush pre-existed the shooting...  black friday saw unprecedented numbers of background checks and gun sales...  it's only going to continue for the time being.  At the moment virtually all supply channels have been cleaned out of AR parts (of virtually all kinds; especially lower receivers), 30 round magazines, and all types of ammunition.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:33 | 3079232 Vashta Nerada
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Every sane person should have boycotted Hollywood years ago.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:39 | 3079268 ElvisDog
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Think about the hypocrisy of Hollywood - they are the loudest screechers for banning all guns, when the movies and TV shows they produce are filled with gun violence.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:11 | 3079124 1100-TACTICAL-12
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cheaper than dirt has dug their own grave

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:23 | 3079181 Overfed
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Every online supplier I've checked is showing out of stock on AR mags. Interesting.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:27 | 3079199 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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You're late to the party. Everyone stocked up Monday and Tuesday.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:33 | 3079228 GubbermintWorker
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Yep, an additional AR and 10 pmags, Monday.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:36 | 3079254 Abiotic Oil
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I already had copious amounts but when I saw them dissapearing and Midway was limiting them to 2 per order I knew where it was headed and I doubled down.

Get ready for $5000 entry level AR's.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:46 | 3079617 Bawneee Fwank
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Check this out...These are 10 round pmags, quantity of 10 and it has hit 300 bucks with 5 days left on ebay.  Fucking insane!!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 16:47 | 3080096 Abiotic Oil
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Holy crap!  43 bidders for those things!

Instead of the bigmac index we need the pmag index.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 18:07 | 3080413 Flakmeister
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Welcome to pump and dump "Guns and Ammo" style....

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:41 | 3079602 Bawneee Fwank
Bawneee Fwank's picture bitchez!  They still have them, 5 per order though at $12.95 (30 round).  I already have plenty, just passing this along to my fellows.  Just put "Magpul pmag" in the search not click "magazines," nothing will show up.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:17 | 3079745 MachoMan
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suspended all online orders til friday

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:40 | 3079279 eclectic syncretist
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Can you imagine the money to be made in black market guns when they implement new laws?  Especially since there are already so many assault weapons out there. 

Those with the entrepreneurial spirit will buy out all the stocks ahead of the bans and make a killing selling them.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 17:06 | 3080153 Abiotic Oil
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That is precisely what happened last time around.  If Feinstein gets her way though, if you sell one this time around you are a felon.  Which will of course add to the profit.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:30 | 3079527 aerojet
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I don't think Obama can legally do that, although I guess he/they could try.  The NFA is pretty clear in what weapons are regulated under it and you can't just arbitrarily add "...and all semi-autos" to the list.  There are Title I and Title II firearms and a lot of established law and case law around all of that. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 17:05 | 3080154 Citxmech
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Just ordered 20 pmags for the holidays - It'll be interesting to see if Brownells honors the posted price and how long it takes for the order to come in (everybody's backordered these days it seems).

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:06 | 3079088 slaughterer
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Choomwagon coming for your guns boys, next your gold.  

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:49 | 3079330 kralizec
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These two fucktards going to give up their armed guards?  I mean if it is the mere presence of guns (like all these leftist trolls say) that instigates kids getting slaughtered, then all guns should go, right?  Of course logic is not a skill leftists have, so, we are back to "you come for my gold or my guns, prepare to eat lead"!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:13 | 3079452 unrulian
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no problem front running their disarmagenda with an order for 1.2b hollow points for "training"....anyone here target practice with hollow points?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:50 | 3079335 kralizec
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Sorry, dup.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:16 | 3079145 Zap Powerz
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Dont ban guns.  Ban autism.

If you out law Autism then only outlaws will have Autism which is nice becuase Autistic people are pretty easy to identify.  Those goofy fuckers toe walk and wont look you in the eye.

You laugh, but banning autism makes as much sense as banning guns.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:45 | 3079218 Chief KnocAHoma
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I am very ashamed that I laughed so hard at this I actually cried. Now I know I'm destined for Hell. At least that suspense is over.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:22 | 3079492 mkhs
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Don't be ashamed.  It is the same method used for healthcare.  Pass a law making it illegal not to have insurance. Now, everyone is covered.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:34 | 3079243 Vashta Nerada
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It would make a whole lot more sense to ban first person shooter videos than guns. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:09 | 3079435's picture

A reliance on top down solutions is what's wrong with this world.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:48 | 3079321 Abiotic Oil
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So there is pretty ample evidence that the metals in vaccines like mercury and aluminum are responsible for the massive uptick in autism over the last few decades.  So the pharmaceuticals give the kids autism with vaccine, then they treat the disorder they casued with drugs that cause aggressive behavior, so the government passes laws that the pharmeceuticals can't be prosecuted for damages caused by vaccines (thanks W. you prick) and then bans guns.

Got it.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:14 | 3079457 unrulian
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better yet ban retards.....oh wait....

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:24 | 3079185 Chupacabra-322
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This is a declaration of war against the people of America by their own government. All U.S citizens will immediately have the right to take up arms to reclaim their country if this law passes. None will be terrorists. All will be freedom fighters, fighting for a just society against an odious government, legal and financial system. If this law passes, America will no longer be a country governed by the rule of law, as it undermines the very basis of law itself, as a structure for maintaining civilization. When law is usurped for the purpose of tyranny, all bets are off.

The rule of law will die in America, if this law passes as it is. Full scale civil war, will only be a matter of time. Abduction, torture and murder is the cursed trinity at the heart of all odious systems of government. The passing of this bill will qualify the American government as a fully odious regime, with no remaining basis in morality. All of humanity and every American citizen, will be fully justified in opposing the U.S government and it’s enforcers, to bring about it’s downfall.

Every senator who votes this into law, is in reality committing the crime of treason against the nation and citizens of America and a heinous crime against all humanity, for which they can and should be tried and sentenced to life-imprisonment or death. Because together with torture and murder, this law puts in place the final element of the legal framework for the genocide of American citizens. “Legalized” Abduction, torture and murder, means that Satanic government is here. Therefore genocide is not far behind. No human being is obliged to obey the laws, of any odious regime.

WITH THE PASSING OF THIS LAW THE U.S GOVERNMENT HEREBY FORFEITS ALL AUTHORITY OVER THE CITIZENS AND STATES OF AMERICA. The passing of this law, will be looked back on as the day when the citizens and states of America became legally and morally free to fully oppose and ignore the authority of the government of the United States of America. Unless the ability to abduct American citizens is removed from this bill, the day that this bill is signed into law, will be the day when the rule of law ends in the United States.

Obama, you have been warned. When genuine (as opposed to odious) government is restored you will be tried in a court of law, along with the Senators who supported it, if this bill is allowed to pass, as it is. For it -along with the laws put in place by recent U.S governments – is treasonous and genocidal. Therefore, for all law makers who have supported abduction, torture and murder (thus creating the conditions for genocide) the day is not far away, when the sentence for your actions, will be life imprisonment or death.

You will not escape the restoration and elevation, of the legal basis of society, that is coming. In fact, your convictions and sentencing, will be the much needed proof, that civilization is restored. So don’t fool yourself that you will be walking away. The same applies to the previous administrations also. All odious rulers, Obama, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Clintons and satanic politicians and bankers everywhere – your day in court is coming. You think you are protected by your corruption of the law, when in fact you are creating the conditions for it’s improvement that will leave you with no defense for your actions.

All odious politicians, bankers, bureaucrats, agents and executives will be sentenced and punished accordingly, when the time comes. You have been warned. Do not push the world over the edge.
Do not destroy the integrity & authority of the rule of law, if you want any chance of a reprieve.
The conditions of the French revolution are being re-created. You know what happened there !



Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:44 | 3079304 Tortfeasor
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But we've got to pass the bill in order to see what's in the bill.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:11 | 3079728 Big Slick
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'Up Arrow' that declaration and you have just been put on a government list.  I hope you have a defensive weapon.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:47 | 3079314 WarPony
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...calling NATO, is anybody home?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:31 | 3079196 Chuck Walla
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Let the clown circus begin!



“Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?”

 ~ Stalin






Wed, 12/19/2012 - 23:33 | 3081490 mjcOH1
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"All military type firearms are to be handed in immediately ... The SS, SA and Stahlhelm give every respectable German man the opportunity of campaigning with them. Therefore anyone who does not belong to one of the above named organizations and who unjustifiably nevertheless keeps his weapon ... must be regarded as an enemy of the national government."
-- SA Oberfuhrer of Bad Tolz, March, 1933.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non ["something essential" lit. "without which not"] for the overthrow of any sovereignty.
So let's not have any native militia or police."
-- Adolph Hitler, Edict of March 18, 1938

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."
-- Heinrich Himmler

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:29 | 3079209 SheepHerder
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I can't believe he used the shooting in Newton to further his stance on the Fiscal Cliff.  Classy.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:34 | 3079241 SheepHerder
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POTUS- “This is the United States of America, the greatest country on Earth…” 

Uh no Mr. President we are not the greatest country on earth.  Please stop saying that and making the rest of look like idiots to the rest of the world.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:34 | 3079244 Lin S
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The US is fucked and Americans are too stupid to understand it.

I would leave the US if I could, but I have nowhere to go.  I wish I had dual citizenship somewhere else, though.  Laos sounds good right about now, just about anywhere...

= (

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:12 | 3079731 Big Slick
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I think John McAfee's place in Belize is available

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:01 | 3079393 DavosSherman
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Lanza reportedly used guns that were legally registered to his mother after having been denied an application to obtain a rifle himself earlier in the week due to Connecticut’s relatively strict gun laws. 


In most cases, the following massacres occurred in so-called “gun-free zones” that gun-control advocates naively thought would help prevent gun violence rather than encourage it:

An autopsy concluded that Columbine killer Eric Harris had the SSRI antidepressant Fluvoxamine in his bloodstream at the time of his death.

• Jeff Weise, who killed nine people and himself at a Minnesota high school in 2005, was taking increasingly high doses of Prozac at the time of his spree.

• Robert Hawkins, who killed eight people and himself at an Omaha mall in 2007, reportedly “had been on antidepressants” at the time of his shooting. He allegedly had taken antidepressants since he was six years old.

• Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 and wounded 23 at Virginia Tech in 2007, had been prescribed Prozac and had previously taken Paxil for a year, but he apparently had ceased taking his medication at the time of the shooting.

• Andrew Engeldinger killed five people and himself after being fired from his job in 2012. A police search of his house revealed he’d been prescribed the antidepressants Mirtazapine and Trazodone, as well as the insomnia medication Temazepam.

• Eduardo Sencion, who killed four people and himself with an assault rifle at a Utah IHOP in 2011, was a paranoid schizophrenic whose “medications were changed” during the summer prior to his attack.

• Robert Kenneth Stewart, who murdered eight people at a North Carolina nursing home in 2009, submitted to a blood test that revealed he had Lexapro, Ambien, Benadryl, and Xanax in his system at the time of his spree.

• Steven Kazmierczak, who killed five people and himself on Valentine’s Day in 2008, had allegedly been prescribed Xanax, Ambien, and Prozac, although according to his girlfriend he had stopped taking Prozac prior to the massacre.

• James Eagan Holmes, who shot up a Colorado movie theater in July, reportedly took 100MG of Vicodin before the shooting. He had also allegedly seen three school psychiatrists prior to his attack. Although his psychiatric records are privileged information, in his mug shot he appears to be medicated up to the eyeballs.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:15 | 3079468 jomama
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here's the page i meant to link originally about Fanapt.

Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent).

This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior:


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:14 | 3079737 rotagen
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Are they gonna just go ahead and SMOOCH in that picture already?  When they're done, they can kiss my glock.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:25 | 3079789 MillionDollarBoner_
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Side Effect = Inability to ejaculate

I know lots of guys who will sign up for that joker !;o)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:54 | 3079029 surf0766
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fair share.. yadda. ops wrong teleprompter

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:55 | 3079032 koaj
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would this be the same president that shipped thousands of guns to mexican drug lords in Fast and Furious? the same president who has the blood of pakistani and yemeni children on his hands from his drone programs and its double tap bombings?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:14 | 3079137 Abiotic Oil
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How can anyone down arrow you for 100% truth?

Another FnF weapon turned up at a cartel murder scene a day or two ago.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:34 | 3079234 Chuck Walla
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the same president who has the blood of pakistani and yemeni children

"The United States does not torture"

~ B-Rock Obama

No, we summarily execute children and other innocents without trial or jury. There, now isn't that better?


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 15:29 | 3079806 MillionDollarBoner_
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Naaaw...that's way too structured...Obummer makes it up as he goes along, in the Choom Wagon...l;o)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:55 | 3079034 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Hard to surf with no arms ...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:13 | 3079134 inevitablecollapse
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did you mean 'serf'???

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:10 | 3079442 francis_sawyer
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Charlie don't SERF...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:32 | 3079221 Freddie
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Charlie don't surf!

F Hollywood and TV because they want to disarm you.

The main writer for Apoc was John Milius with Francis helping a bit.  Milius is an NRA board member. 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:15 | 3079458's picture




- Hey Frankie, aren't you gonna give me youur class ring?
- Oh I'm afraid I can't do that, Annette
- Why not?
- 'Cause I don't have any arms!

Beach party Vietnam
Surfin' with the Viet Cong
Cookin' hot dogs with napalm
A beach party Vietnam



Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:57 | 3079036 francis_sawyer
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Ha!... I say it (other thread), and it comes out here... 20 minutes ago I posted that "Wait & See ~ gun control would get wiggled into the Fiscal Cliff debate"...


Got "junked" for it twice (by some clever political ANALysts)...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:10 | 3079117 john39
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enough republicans and the NRA will now fold on gun control...  they are puppets, nothing more, and do as they are told by their masters.   the police state is going up, the high def cameras wired into supercomputers are on line... the drones are ready... the police are now paramilitary...  most wealth stolen...  now the U.S. becomes one giant prison state unless we stand up.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:21 | 3079170 Creepy Lurker
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Already there. Of course, you won't see this on the US news outlets...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:36 | 3079249 john39
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that is sick shit... body cavity search at a traffic stop?  this shit has to stop.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:10 | 3079439 francis_sawyer
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It's what you call "COPPIN a feel"...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:17 | 3079470's picture

Enough is enough.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:57 | 3079041 suteibu
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"Never let a crisis go to waste."  The mantra of our elitist overlords.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:57 | 3079042 docj
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Does anyone feel safer knowing Sheriff Joe Bite-Me is going to be the administration's point man in this cluster-gaggle?

Well, that said, maybe we should feel safer - knowing that nothing Sheriff Joe touches goes, well, anywhere.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:06 | 3079083 spastic_colon
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way to put your VP in the crosshairs........below is a free copy and paste phrase everyone can use for the ultimate ironic ending to the gun debate;


"Hmmm, did'nt see that coming"


no copyright or nuthin'

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:57 | 3079047 jbvtme
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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:57 | 3079048 buzzsaw99
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will he ban child killer drones too?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:24 | 3079184 Overfed
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Those drones are the key to our freedom! /s

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:58 | 3079049 kralizec
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In an extremely rare moment of candor they would admit to both setting the stage for confiscation by promoting F&F op's in and out of the nation and wanting to fully disarm the people so that there is no resistance to state actions.

But all we get is code words for all of the above.

Eff them and everybody like them!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 12:58 | 3079051 DavidC
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Will he be wiping his tears again?


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:03 | 3079078 Bay of Pigs
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And is Uncle Joe drunk again?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:00 | 3079058 booboo
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Obama Bin Biden. Team Americanastan

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:00 | 3079060 dwdollar
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I just caught someone trying to break into my house. Called the police but thankful I had a gun. My only regret is I didn't have it on me and armed. I had to reach for it in the closet.

Fuck Obongo and fuck anyone trying to disarm us. Let it come to Civil War. I don't give a fuck.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:30 | 3079213 Jeepers Creepers
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I had an attempted break in through a door in the back yard, guy saw a gun being pointed at him and ran off. 

He was high on something.  I called the police multiple times, they never even so much as showed up.

You can't count on government bureaucrats to protect you.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:09 | 3079399 dwdollar
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I bet these were professionals who have been casing for some time. Today was the first day in two weeks there hasn't been at least one car parked in the driveway around 9:30 AM. I saw a strange red Corvette stop in front of the house yesterday but didn't think much of it. The police were fairly quick to respond but a person can be be killed in an instance so it's never fast enough. Defending oneself is an unalienable right. This is surreal. It really can happen to anyone. Don't think it can't.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:20 | 3079485's picture

On the local Pittsburgh news last night a man who has been a target of burglaries said that he considered getting a gun but with the events in Connecticut "you don't even want to think about that." Brainwashing complete.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:00 | 3079064 GoldRulesPaperDrools
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Can't have those serfs wielding weaponry that's anywhere near our now-militarized police state.  We need to be sure we can put anyone who resists down when we need to have our way.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:01 | 3079066 Mercury
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How high did the population of automatic and semi-automatic weapons in Newtown, CT rise to when the pres visted there the other day I wonder.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:28 | 3079194 kill switch
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Good point mercury!! I wonder,


By way of a well regulated malitia to defend agains an unruly government, 2012 the hardware has to be equalized!!thats why we need fully automatics. Our hart warming local militerized police force to protect and serve. Not any more,  they are the  Authorities, Authorities, Authorities, Authorities.


The kill switch

Holy crap, next stop for me is GITMO, SEE YA ALL

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:51 | 3079351 Ruffcut
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No need to go to gitmo, gitmo comes direct to you. Free shipping, too.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 18:17 | 3080455 kill switch
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Free shipping? Well that's comforting...and all along I thought I had a serious problem. USA USA USA


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:02 | 3079070 Blano
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Now if that red dress to the right would just stay in camera, this might actually be tolerable.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:38 | 3079265 XitSam
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Brianna Keilar CNN (?)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:02 | 3079073 pods
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Nothing but another clownshow.  The shephards are merely telling the flock that all is well, go back to sleep.


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:02 | 3079074 Overfed
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Late. As usual. Must be having technical difficulties with the teleprompter.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:07 | 3079093 pods
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The Tearmaker 5000 isn't working properly so they are a bit delayed.


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:20 | 3079175 francis_sawyer
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Copy of teleprompter speech:




[cry a little bit here]




Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:05 | 3079082 azzhatter
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Jail Jon Corzine

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:06 | 3079084 grunk
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From the government that brought you Waco.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:10 | 3079112 dexter_morgan
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And Fast and Furious

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:12 | 3079122 dexter_morgan
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and drones flying all about the countryside

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:15 | 3079149 koaj
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and Ruby Ridge


and Oklahoma City if you want to delve down that rabbit hole and check out who oversaw the undercover fbi ops w McVeigh and Nichols in 93 (hint...he's our current AG)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:32 | 3079227 FeralSerf
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It's comforting to know that we have a loyal team player as an AG.

/sarc off

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:22 | 3079493's picture

And Kent State and Jackson State.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:55 | 3079370 WarPony
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but door-slammed in Montana!  Collectivism (armed) works.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:29 | 3079208 dbTX
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And Ruby Ridge

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:59 | 3079383 WarPony
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and Gordon Wendell Kahl.  They found his severed foot under the fridge in his burnt-down mobile home.  Fed Marshalls go eye-for-eye.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:13 | 3079130 Global Hunter
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We could get quite a long list going here, brought you:

ruby ridge

pine ridge

operation fast and furious

oklahoma city

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:21 | 3079171 chunga
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TWA FLT 800, don't forget that one.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:42 | 3079286 FeralSerf
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And 9-11!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:49 | 3079340 fuu
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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:40 | 3079597 Squid Vicious
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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:05 | 3079087 muppet_master
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no i dont' want to watch that hedius hypocritic bad actor idiot !!

rather watch tom & jerry....really

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:07 | 3079098 Overfed
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Lip service. Blah blah blah. Ban this blah blah ban that blah blah.


Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:08 | 3079104 spastic_colon
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why are you "willing to bet"?  you should be listenting to your constituencies and then making "betting" necessary!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:09 | 3079106 maxmad
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I agree that there should be a total gun ban!!!  For everyone except for me!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:08 | 3079107 Yen Cross
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 Deflection-Deflection-Deflection. This shit makes me sick!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:09 | 3079108 Watts_D_Matter
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Start with Chicago first d bag! 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:09 | 3079109 suteibu
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Weapons of war in the hands of dangerous people.  You mean, like drones and executives who maintain a kill list?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:32 | 3079541 aerojet
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The hypocrisy is amazing, isn't it?  Here we have an out-of-control government that has adopted the right to kill indiscriminatly without any due process and now they have seized upon a tragedy in order to further the cause of mass disarmament.  It's like a page right out of Stalin's playbook!

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:10 | 3079115 Watts_D_Matter
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I guess the administration used gun control in Benghazi as well...worked well there

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:11 | 3079116 Dr. Engali
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In the amount of time you just spoke 10 people just died in car accidents. are you going to list them off too?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:21 | 3079173 lesterbegood
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List also the number of unarmed citizen gunned down by police in the last year?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:11 | 3079118 tooriskytoinvest
Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:11 | 3079120 seamus3500
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aren't all weapons war weapons?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:12 | 3079123 Overfed
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Nice off-topic questions from the quisling media.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:11 | 3079125 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Cling to your guns and religion boys, 'cause homie is coming for both ...

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:12 | 3079127 Dre4dwolf
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Why is it that Americans have no say in this argument and compromise?


When do I get to propose MY PLAN that would actually work?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:17 | 3079157 dexter_morgan
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Allegedly, we all did this past November.......

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 14:25 | 3079506's picture

But "we" didn't elect the gun banner Romney.

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