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Guest Post: Gun Grabbers Call For Re-Education Programs In Public Schools
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
Was the shooting of 20 students in Newtown, Connecticut the Neo-Liberal version of 9/11? The question merits considerable thought, but let me explain further what I mean. In the aftermath of the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, a sense of shock and awe sunk into the minds of the American populace like nothing seen in decades. This overwhelming fear, this logic crippling terror, infected the public to more destructive ends than any deadly virus in existence. Conservatives were especially vulnerable to the infectious symptoms of the event, abandoning all reason and even their small government values to support the fascist inklings of the Bush Administration; a Neo-Con (fake conservative) driven presidency with ambitions of constitutional reversal. Whatever you may believe about the true causes and culprits behind 9/11, no one can deny that Bush and his ilk sought to exploit the tragedy to gain political capital to be used in the destruction of American civil liberties.
More than a decade later, the Neo-Liberal (fake liberal) Obama Administration and its minions continue the Bush legacy by exploiting our latest tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary as a means to an end; a political opportunity to assert federal authority as more valuable than constitutional freedom.
The onset of the illegal wars thrust upon the Middle East after 9/11 brought with it mass resistance from the “left” side of the political spectrum. Protests abounded, dissenters were numerous, and Bush responded in kind with unprecedented domestic surveillance programs and attacks against free speech. Democratic leaning citizens saw the criminality of it because they were unhindered by bias. The archetypal manipulation of 9/11 and the fear mongering of the terrorist myth was less effective on them. However, times have changed...
With a Democratic president in the White House, the left has grown addicted to their perceived (but illusory) social leverage. The intoxicating symptoms of power overdose have clouded their vision, and that which they fought against in the Bush years now appears rather fair and acceptable to them today. Obama has so far committed every war atrocity that Bush was ever guilty of in his tenure, while expanding on liberty nullifying pieces of legislation Bush set into motion. Liberals cry out in horror at the deaths of 20 children in Connecticut while cheering a man like Obama, who orders predator drone strikes that result in the deaths of children everyday. Of all the people in this country, self proclaimed “progressives” are the most hypocritical and the most disappointing as human beings.
Adding to that disappointment, Obama’s more aggressive socialist support base (useful idiots) along with the establishment controlled mainstream media are attempting to squeeze every last ounce of political advantage from the Newtown massacre to gain superiority in a battle over one of the last portions of the Constitution that people still seem willing to fight and die for: The 2nd Amendment.
In the past few days I have seen an unprecedented tidal wave of media stories promoting anti-gun sentiments and prejudice against gun ownership. Counterpoints to this philosophy are almost never given credence in print or on television, and when they are, gun rights advocates are interrupted with incessant Alinsky arguments attacking their characters or distracting away from the real issues. What the MSM is attempting to do (blatantly and shamelessly I might add) is to create the illusion of consensus. Through a deluge of constant propaganda, they hope to implant the false perception that a “majority” of Americans are in support of strict gun control or even confiscation.
What I have found though in my seven years as an analyst in the independent media is quite the opposite. America’s appreciation of gun rights and gun ownership is increasing exponentially. Not because of some newfound love affair for “hunting”; that’s just nonsense. Instead, the public is embracing our gun culture because they are slowly realizing the need for self defense in these precarious times, and this need extends to defense against a highly corrupt government (hence the public’s right to military style weapons). Gun ownership has even increased amongst Democrats after the election of Barack Obama, and gun sales have skyrocketed beyond all expectation. Interestingly, some gun grabbers are willing to admit that 2nd Amendment principles are pervasive in the U.S., and have suggested that the Obama Administration target not only gun ownership, but our “gun culture” as well.
Numerous mainstream articles have been published attacking the gun culture as the root cause of all our nation’s ills, but I felt one Reuters piece in particular stood out as indicative of the truly despotic depths to which leftists (who claim to be champions of freedom) are willing to sink:
The piece begins by comparing the battle for gun control to the battle for civil rights of black Americans during the reign of Lyndon Johnson. As painful and absurd as this sounds, the author appears to take the premise very seriously.
The article attempts to promote the idea that desegregation was achieved due to the actions of the Johnson Administration, who supposedly used the threat of cancelled supplemental funds to state schools as a means to force them into enrolling black students.
The goal here is to promote a worshipful attitude towards the Federal Government as the sole arbiter and savior of the people. It’s funny, but I thought it was the dissenting protests of millions of civil rights activists that ended desegregation, NOT Lyndon Johnson, who by all accounts was a racist who only wanted to use the black community as a voting bloc to revitalize the Democratic Party.
In this White House recording, Johnson complains that using the argument of discrimination to impose federal controls on taxation in Texas was not working because there were too many “n*ggers” voting there to make it seem plausible:
Johnson is also famous for this quote:
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
From Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”
Clearly, Johnson saw the tragedy of the oppression of the black community as a tool he could exploit to further his goal of decapitating states rights. Progressives and centralists often use the argument that if the states are left to their own devices they will implement freedom crushing legislation like segregation. I would point out that anti-constitutional and anti-freedom actions by ANY government, whether state or federal, need to be stopped by the citizenry. The federal government is supposed to keep the states in line constitutionally, but states are also supposed to keep the federal government in line constitutionally. In the meantime, the people are supposed to keep BOTH of them in line constitutionally. The Federal Government was never designed to be an unaccountable and unstoppable dictator in the affairs of the states or the populace. They do not get the last word; the Constitution and the people do.
In light of this information on Johnson, I find it interesting that the author of the Reuters article above uses Johnson’s methodology as an argument for Obama’s gun control. Whether he realizes it or not, he has made a very astute comparison. Obama does not care about Sandy Hook, the children who were killed, or similar tragedies in general. Like Johnson, though, Obama does care about how he can use the event to further federal power and chew away at our constitutional rights.
The LBJ / Obama connection aside, the article gets much worse…
The author goes on to propose that Obama use Johnson’s strategy of flaunting federal money as a carrot to get states to submit to centralized gun control. This plays into the overall meme that the mainstream media is pushing post-Newtown; the idea that Obama must bypass Congress and take action against gun rights unilaterally. You know…like an emperor…
And still, it gets even darker…
What is the author’s ultimate methodology? What edict does he hope the Obama Administration will implement? Use the threat of lost federal funding to force schools across the country to institute government approved “gun safety and violence prevention” programs.
But what does he mean by “violence prevention”? The author dances around the specifics of the issue while throwing out a couple small placations to states rights advocates, but slips up by admitting he wants the gun control ideology taught to schoolchildren while blaming the American “gun culture” as equally responsible for the attack at Newtown:
“…Public debate and discussion about the role of guns and gun culture in American society must be a key component of that process. The question that many Americans will be asking is: Why did the shooting occur and how can we prevent another shooting in the future? It is not just that guns are available, it’s also the culture that surrounds them. It’s about the people and the tools, not one or the other. A comprehensive attempt at gun control would better inform Americans about gun safety and the hazards of guns. But how best to do that? I offer one possible solution: the power of federal government intervention through schools.”
“…the Obama administration would begin to chip away at a culture of violence that is clearly deeply rooted across the country…If we can link federal funds to mandatory standardized testing then we can certainly do the same for gun-control education. This will not only be a practical step to ensure that an event like the Newtown shooting does not happen again. It’s also a moral one to combat a culture that’s buying an increasing number of guns—guns that can easily have dire effects in the future.”
And there you have it. The answer, according to gun grabbers, is to force schools to reeducate your children to fear and disdain the very idea of gun ownership. This is almost the equivalent of a “Prima Nocta” policy against the gun rights movement. Essentially the Reuters author’s philosophy is to “breed us out”, taking away our ability to pass on our 2nd Amendment principles to our children through propaganda conditioning, instead of trying to fight us head on.
Is this really the point we have come to in America? Where hack journalists feel no qualms about openly calling for the execution of political propaganda in public schools to manipulate little kids into believing what the establishment wants them to believe? I realize that this is sadly already happening in many ways, but it has always been a subversive and secretive process because, well…because it is abhorrent and they know it! Now, they openly petition for it as if it should be commonly accepted?!
Here is the bottom line: If you can’t convince people through rational debate that your position is the correct one, and, if you have to threaten them, lie to them, or brainwash them before they will adopt your ideas, then there is something wrong with your ideas. The truth wins out eventually under its own power. Only disinformation needs to be forcefully injected into the public consciousness. Obviously, there are a great many truths behind the concepts of individual self defense and gun ownership if gun grabbers find it impossible to prevail without subverting our youth.
As I mentioned in my article ‘Teachers: It Is Time To Arm Yourselves Regardless Of The Law’, the Liberty Movement has already offered a solution to potential gun violence that can and does work far better than gun restriction or confiscation; let teachers carry their own firearms, training to defend themselves and their students. We should demand that this solution be given the consideration it deserves instead of being outright ignored in the public arena. If we allow gun grabbers to “shame” us into silence, or, god forbid, reeducate our offspring, the outlandish Orwellian concepts peddled by the mainstream today will seem like child’s play compared to the tyranny of tomorrow.
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Well Pmags went from 13 dollars to 40 in about an hour, and they are sold out.
My prepper neighbor says he is adequately hedged: last week's doubling/or more in the value of his defensive arms has just offset the price drop of his silver.
Free your mind, Brandon. Your head is filled with ghosts.
The article makes sense, with its proposition that there will be an attempt to "breed us out".
A natural response to anti-gun propaganda in schools, would be to withdraw the child and "home-school" him.
It would make sense to first cut off that avenue of escape.
I did note that the Brit press railed extensively against "home-schooling" ... as well as prepping and gun-owners.
Reducing the number of people who will one day in the future care about exercising a particular right is a good way to ensure that future restrictions on that right will be easier to enact. My children for example will never have known of a time that one could simply board a plane and fly off to a destination of their choosing without having to surrender their person hood to a TSA thug. They don't have a clue that there was a time one could order a Tommy gun from the Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. We are on a fucking super sled riding down the slippery slope to serfdom.
I received a Remington Model 721 bolt action 30'06 for my 14th birthday. I still have it. I used to ride my bike out a couple miles from home to shoot it. Beat the stock up carrrying it across the handlebars. Can y'all imagine a kid doing that today? The anti-gun freaks would call the SWAT team in a heartbeat. Glad I grew up in the 50's and 60's. Hopefully I'll die before the country goes completely fascist.
A bolt action 30-06?
That's not an Assault Weapon. That's not a high power rifle like an AR-15. No pistol grip, flash-hider, collapsible stock or anything scary.
An AR-15 will blow people in half, while a 30-06 will merely tickle them... Ask any member of the media.
I dunno ... a 5.56 would just kind of annoy me. But the gun looks really mean, so it must be bad.
"An AR-15 will blow people in half, while a 30-06 will merely tickle them... Ask any member of the media"
Hehehe. Yeah? and my Federal Premium 180 grain Accubonds will "tickle" alright. They shoot good in my rifle. First 5 rounds I shot in that rifle I had one flier 'cause I jerked. The other 4 holes you could cover with a nickle :) 60yd distance.
If I can see the target, the target is in heaps of trouble :)
An AR-15/M16/M4/MP-5 is a fully auto weapon, with fire selectons. AR configured for 3 rounds per trigger pull or a lever switch to fully auto with just the touch of the trigger. The muzzle velocity of the .223 is 2,240 to 2,500 feet per second. The size of the round is .001 inch larger in diameter than a .22 long rifle cartridge. It is a buzz saw for defensive and offensive use under military needs in a very "HOT" fire field. And it's very dependable. The ammo is light to carry. It's also available in NATO .556.
A Bushmaster Carbon 15/ AR 14 is closely similar to the AR 15/M16 except that it is not fully automatic. As compared to the military version of the Colt, AR15/M16, it is a sporting rifle, not a military weapon. That's why it sometimes sells for $579.95 with an inexpensive red dot scope. Long term use, under dire conditions, is questionable, primarily because it hasn't been around that long. I wouldn't want to try if my life really depended on it under long term use. But EXACTLY the same weapon as above IS available in MUCH, MUCH stronger and adaptable formats, for one hell of a lot more money than $579.95. Let's say around the price of an ounce of gold, but hey, with todays market, that may change. And if you're scared of something, spending an ounce of gold is sometimes a reassurance, even if you don't know how to engage the dustcover.
A Remington 30.06 Springfield round, quietly used by someone who would NOT like to shoot deer, elk or moose, the occasional bear, upper rocky mountian goat and maybe a cow or a bison or an elephant or rhinocserous, or a dinosaur if they were still around, with ONE SHOT, has a muzzle velocity of 2,600 to 2,900 fps and muzzle energy of a minimum 2,600 Foot Pounds. It reaches out and touches with effectiveness well beyond yuppy/puppy/unruled children running around with lower priced imitations. The 30.06 won WW1 and WW2. True, you have to reload. Each and every time. Sorry about your luck. First time the screwdriver/Prius/ "Where do you put the oil?" wannabees have a stovepipe or jammed mag with their "pretty, modern, close range, urban buzzsaw", somebody on a rooftop or in a ditch will fire a single shot. Game over. Now they will own the piece.
I think the tragic offense in CT is with the school system, who from internal reports stated that this kid was dangerous. Or it's with the mother, who either had no resources left, was too timid, and had absolutely no business introducing him to firearms. This is where a problem lies in the system. Identify this type of scenario, teach the parents, and, of course, welcome to democracy, HOPE for the best. More HOPIUM. A "very" few parents are just too stupid or blind to the problem to realize that they are "not" positive reinforcing. Some are very, very resposible and make up a nation of well brought up sport shooting enthusists or even hobbyists. But this isn't Stalins' age. Pulling the feathers live. We as a nation are better than that. The outpouring sympathy from the world proves it. I think you and I are, certainly, in our own way. This is still America. We made the rules. We should not forget them.
BUT.
It's up to us to change the system.
All this brainpower here.
All this moneymaking.
The "Enlightenment" of the financial age.
And all we do is talk.
Adam Lanza didn't talk. Is that what you really want? Is that solving the problem?
I'll wait and see.
"A bolt action 30-06?"
OMG, that's an evil high-power sniper rifle. (/sarc)
Hopefully, you'll still be around to teach the younger generation how to shoot.
Yes - I grew up in the 60's & 70's and would walk through the neighborhood to the mountain after school to shoot one of my rifles and pistols. You would get nothing but complaints today. My 4 sons know how to shoot and all are Eagle Scouts and good students. Oldest have been a B-1B commander for the past 3 years supporting our guys on the ground.
We must feel bad about this.........?
Me too, at 68 I'm getting close
Me too, at 68 I'm getting close
Below are links to articles that present social policy approaches that were tried in the past, and have appeared today:
http://archive.org/details/EricHolderSaysPeopleNeedToBeBrainwashedToGive...
http://www.redstate.com/cmndr45/2012/06/13/fast-and-furious-ghost-of-tim...
project gunrunner in reverse?
Drunk driving kills waaayy more children then guns (or second hand smoke) so why don't we start at the top of the killing list?
If you read Super Freakonomics, you'd know that drunk walking kills even more people than drunk driving, people who'd still be alive if they had just driven drunk. Disclaimer: DDAMM ... Drunk Drivers Against Mad Mothers.
Without firearms...we, the people, have no hope for resistance. Never, in the history of mankind has power been so easily concentrated into the hands of a few.
Two/three guys (or even one) in a tank, or an attack helicopter can destroy an entire town and kill thousands. This is a modern phenomenon as technology has peaked the power controlled by a very small minority.
A firearm...is all we have. it's the only resistance that could ever be offered. Because a 30.06 still provides a threat to the one who eventually climbs OUT of that tank.
They want our firearms, because it's the last piece of resistance power you have. They know everyone in Texas already has a gun and 4,000 rounds. But they also know that eventually, ammo boxes will empty and for the right price most Americans (x-tx) would throw their case of 9mm's in their trunk and turn them in.
We can never, ever, ever, never, let them take our firearms.
I know how to stop these school shootings also, tell this administration to stop persuing ATT, aka Small arms treaty with the UN and we will be fine. This Administration are monsters and picked on an un-armed school in a state where guns are practically illegal to begin with. They want public outrage to give this POS president executive FIAT to sign this treaty and the public will demand it, but they botched their Operation and will pay a dear price for that. Obama, stop killing out citizens and children, thank you.
If they can pull off Benghazi, Operation Fast n Furious, Operation Gun runner and eric holder back in the mid 90's in a speech saying "We have to brainwash Americans into beliving guns are Bad" well your doing a good job with that but you guys really screwed this one up, you killed our Christian children and for that you will pay a high price for.
I sent this to the white house and all msm outlets. Pass it on.
NEVER! You turn in your 2A and you lose your 1A at the same time, they both
recipricate and ensure eachother.
What happened when Mao, Hitler and Stalin dis-armed his citizens? They were
massacred.
Here within lies the problem.
Using the MSM narrative to start with, Conn is one of the most draconian 2A
Laws rated 4th in the Nation being one of the most restrictive states in the
Republic.
If these Teachers or Principal had a CCW, number 1, this may not have even
happened, 2, the blood shed could have been mitigated when there was the first
sign of trouble. They were all un-armed thanks to the Un-Constitutional State
and Federal regulation of the 2A in that state so shame on ypour Conn law
makers.
Germany's crime rate just began to go up so what did they do? They loosned
their gun control law to arm more citizens against criminals, not further
restrict or take their guns away.
UK has a reverse castle law.. want to live like that? How would you like to
go to prison for shooting somone raping your wife in your home?
Now, how did
UK lose their gun right's? A school yard shooting, it was a confiscation
afterwards and now look at those slaves living under a larger Police State than
we are in the USA because crime went up because only the criminals have the un
registered weapons that can't be tracked for confiscation. Moral? Don't throw
away the pencil for mispelling a word.
This is a state / local and Federal
restriction problem what happened in Conn so they are going to punish all
Federally screened law abiding citizens across the whole USA? Yea, assinine.
The 2A shall not be abridged.. What don't you understand about that?.
Tragic that this crime happened, but let's break this down to the brass tacks
shall we?
Again, using the MSM narrative, Lazar supposedly went to a gun store to
purchase a weapon and was denied, well, yea.. He doesn't hold a Federal purchase
card that would confirm his background check and documented fingerprints to be
placed on file with Sagum Morpho (Federal data base) to allow him to purchase
So, yea, he hasn't been pre-screened to purchase, and yes, he would be denied.
So, an un licenced citizen of 20 years old stole his mothers guns, murdered
his mom, went to the school she volentiered at and murdered 27-28 un-armed
children and adults then turned the gun on himself. Crappy story, but that's
their narrative.
Fox News this morning announced, "Investigators searched the house and no
medication nor psychotropes were found" which opens another rabbit hole.
This administration since '08 began the wheels in motion to further restrict
and or confiscate firearms here in the USA. Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize
laureate because he promised the International community and the UN that he
would dis-arm America. Just nobody was looking into why he recieved it and he
made no public mention why he was nominated for it anywhere, he was acting like
it was because he was the first man of color to take the highest seat of power
in the land being an african american or Kenyan, nope, had to do with rolling us
into an Internationa treaty named ATT. aka small arms Treaty.
Our 2A rights afforded to us by our Forefathers under our Constitution was
NOT penned for duck hunting, it was penned to protect yourself if one day the
Government we (for the people, by the people) may one day become tyranacle.
My Police friend told me last night, "Relax buddy! They ban assault weapons
(not just rifles) we get our Revolution" so were even.. Come and get 'em.
DO NOT DISARM OR YOU WILL BECOME CHATTEL, and shame on you Conneticuit for
disarming your taxpayers and forcing them to rely on using 911 if a violent
crime has happened. Protect yourself because your Government can't.
Molan labe.. I want to see the video that the FBI already said they wouldn't release. Brand new security system that they won't show. Untl then, this is a botched Opp. The video would or will show the shooter-s.
Yep.
"If they can pull off Benghazi, Operation Fast n Furious, Operation Gun runner and eric holder back in the mid 90's in a speech saying "We have to brainwash Americans into beliving guns are Bad" well your doing a good job with that but you guys really screwed this one up, you killed our Christian children and for that you will pay a high price for."
You also have a long memory...+1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0
Well TV and Hollywood are in full blow OBa orgasm ban guns mode. I stopped watching their brainwashing shit years ago.
If you watch then you support them. And Fox is no better. F them.
"filicide is the third leading cause of death amongst American children five to fourteen years old" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide Filicide is the murder of children over 24 hours of age by one or more of their parents. Maybe we should ban or license parents?
..and where are the tears Mr. President for these children?
...along with the 30,000+ people who die as a result of drunk drivers every year!
Where are those tears Mr. President?
Where are those tears!
The word education is bad enough, but RE-education?
No sir, you are at the wrong house.
Look, I'm a sceptic on this topic, but if they can pull of Fast n Furious, Operation GunRunner with impunity, Benghazi.. I don't trust the "official: Narrative / work. ATT is a 2012 innitiative, not 2013 UN Treaty.
On Monday, Alan Korwin, 2nd Amendment activist and author of Gun Laws of America, published a preliminary list of firearms and firearms accessories to be included in the yet-to-be announced, but much anticipated new version of the so-called Assault Weapons Ban.
The chief sponsor of the last ban, Sen. Diane Feinstein is said to be crafting new legislation now, which, if passed, President Obama would undoubtedly sign.
Writing for Red Flag Newswire, Korwin said:
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine
Sturm Ruger Mini-14
AR-15
Bushmaster XM15
Armalite M15
AR-10
Thompson 1927
Thompson M1
AK
AKM
AKS
AK-47
AK-74
ARM
MAK90
NHM 90
NHM 91
SA 85
SA 93
VEPR
Olympic Arms PCR
AR70
Calico Liberty
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or DragunovSVU
Fabrique National FN/FAL
FN/LAR, or FNC
Hi-Point20Carbine
HK-91, HK-93
HK-94
HK-PSG-1
Thompson 1927 Commando
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle
Saiga
SAR-8
SAR-4800
SKS with detachable magazine
SLG 95
SLR 95 or 96
Steyr AU
Tavor
Uzi
Galil and Uzi Sporter
Galil Sporter or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz)
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110
MAC-10
MAC-11
MPA3
Olympic Arms OA
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion or AB-10
Uzi
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG
SPAS 12 or LAW 12
Striker 12
Streetsweeper
Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Would the Democrats really be so bold as to propose another gun ban when the majority of the American people clearly oppose gun control?
Remember, it was the Obama administration which sent thousands of assault rifles into the hands of drug cartel assassins in order to produce outrage among the American people, who would then support more government control over gun sales.
In March 2009, Obama administration officials held a White House press briefing announcing a "gun-tracing program" dubbed Operation Gunrunner (which later became Fast and Furious).
Of course, this program did not involve gun tracing, but gun walking, which resulted in at least 1,4000 weapons ending-up in the hands of the drug cartels.
Even worse, those weapons have been used to murder U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata as well as hundreds of Mexican citizens.
So why would Ivy League educated, high-level government officials initiate a program that would seem doomed to result in more death and mayhem?
Why indeed.
Eric Holder has, well documented anti-2nd Amendment history, as does Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano...all of whose departments were involved in the failed operation (SEE MARCH 24, 2009 PRESS BRIEFING).
Once the bodies began piling-up from the use of these weapons, the Obama administration could announce the fact that these guns came from U.S. gun stores and then announce the need for more gun control laws (or simply enact them through the use of Executive Order).
Think this theory is crazy?
Watch the video below of then-U.S. Attorney Eric Holder addressing the Woman's National Democratic Club on the "need to change the way people think about guns."
http://www.examiner.com/video/eric-holder-brainwash-people-into-thinking...
On April 27, 1995, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) spoke at the US Senate hearing on terrorism shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing.
During the hearing, she referenced her concealed carry permit and how she carried a gun with her in the 1970's, citing the urge to arm yourself for protection- in her case from threats.
She states:
"I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon and I made the determination if somebody was going to try and take me out, I was going to take them with me."
Reference to "her husband" is to her second husband who died of cancer. She has since remarried.
Streetsweeper was declared a Destructive Device by Clinton Treasury Secy Lloyd Benson back in 1994. These Bolsheviks are really trying to disarm American Whites and after that what do you think they will do?
ALL of TV and ALL of Hollywood want to disarm you yet the sheep keep watching and supporting it.
I do not watch their sh*t by TV has been going mental to ban guns.
Keep watching serfs.
"The chief sponsor of the last ban, Sen. Diane Feinstein is said to be crafting new legislation now, which, if passed, President Obama would undoubtedly sign."
The usual suspects are back with their usual bullshit....
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of Americans to feel safe."
-- U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein, quoted by AP, 11/18/93
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America turn 'em all in, I would have done it."
-- Senator Diane Feinstein refering to what she wished she could have done with regard to "assault weapons" (60 Minutes, CBS, 5 Feb. 1995)
"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
-- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, quoted on NBC, 12/8/93
"We're here to tell the NRA their nightmare is true..."
-- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, quoted on NBC, 11/30/93
"The Brady law is not a cure for the bloody scourge of gun violence. It's a good beginning, it's a good first step, but it's not enough. And we are going to move forward. The Brady Bill was the first step. We are not taking in one proposal many, many more steps."
--U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, at the press conference introducing " Brady II," February 28, 1994
"There may be other things that will happen later... It may not be the end... the bottom line is what we are seeking now is the Brady Bill."
-- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, interviewed on CNN Crossfire
"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come."
-- U.S. Senator Joseph Biden, 11/18/93, Associated Press interview
"It is our aim to ban the manufacture and sale of handguns to private individuals. . .the coalition's emphasis is to keep handguns out of private possession -- where they do the most harm."
-- Recruiting flyer currently distributed by The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, formerly called The National Coalition to Ban Handguns.
When they start going door to door in Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Atlanta, Oakland... etc... and Black people don't make a fuss about it, then I will be worried.
I do not see this happening without the old reliable cries of RACISM, since not every Black household has a gun. How many hours will it take to make sure that a Black household does not contain a prohibited weapon?
Confiscation ends right there since it then becomes a Civil Rights issue.
Good luck to the Crackers trying to disarm the Blacks. Whites might also get a little upset if they are the sole targets.
If you don't want to register your gun, then find a gun show or "swap meet" nearby. That's what I heard from somebody at the flea market anyway.
Depends on the state and if you are willing to break the law. Registration and reporting of private sales is required in some states. It is in your own interest to register the transfer at a private sale. That way, if it is used in a crime they do not come looking for you when they trace the S/N.
You can register any gun you want...I never will. I also have never applied for a CC...and I never will.
I also will never register a hammer, baseball bat, kitchen knife, gas can or plant or animal that I OWN...if they find one of these items at a crime scene that is traced back to me I'll tell them who I sold it to.
Simple.
Suffer Little Children
Ok, I get it now. Americans are hapless idiots who buy guns with no idea of how dangerous they are, so we should introduce gun training in schools to make schools safer. I have a better idea, why not abolish schools altogether and replace them with shooting training facilities. That will take care of eliminating school massacres and of trying to provide a useless education that does not make people any safer. Way to go.
The root of the problem is people who want to decided what we all must do regardless of our individual needs and inclinations.
can I quote you on that?
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.
-- William Burroughs
Isnt he the guy who killed his wife while trying to shoot an apple off her head?
The comments on this thread. are. priceless.
"I'm here to articoolate my views with this letter to the editor on Gun Control!"
Awww, someone needs attention. Happy now?
Sorry if the 'toon hits yer a bit too close to home Enis.
WTF? YisC links (I presume accidentally) to a possible malware site, I politely point it out, and now I get some echochambermaiden with Yen CreAM dripping from her lips offering me sloppy seconds?
Pass, thanks.
Eric Holder >> Must watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw
Walking out onto the balcony overlooking the Mekong River just after reading this article, I can hear the voices of the newly arrived school children, chanting in unison their morning paean to the State, the Unity of the People, the collective mind...
and it occurs to me that all the sacrifice, of blood, of lives, of social cohesion and the integrity of the Republic made in Asia for the better part of half a century now, have been merely to result in the importation of those values foreign to the western pysche, and the elimination of that tencacious individuality of spirit that once made us great, and of our society worth fighting for.
The Obama Gang isn’t just exploiting the shooting. In all likelihood the criminal Obama Gang staged the Black Op. Can you image signing the order to butcher all those little kids then going on the TV grandstanding, faking you’re crying, transparently acting all shaken up… when you were the stinking monster that ordered the killings. I think that is what we’re dealing with here.
The Hegelian Dialectic – Problem, reaction, solution.
They create the problem, grandstand and manipulate the reaction including putting the spotlight on their paid/compromised media whores, giving them the microphone, then the aspiring Marxist Dictator is going to give us helpless little people the answer…Well no fucking thanks.
Earlier this week it was reported that yet another of Eric Holder's Fast & Furious guns was involved in a shootout between Cartel and Military in which a Beauty Queen was shot to death. What galls me is the GOP Committee on F&F let Holder RETRACT his SWORN TESTIMONY, in other words PERJURY without punishment, just like Billy the Kid Killer Clinton
COPY, PASTE, SEND!
Dear Editor:
This horrible event in Newtown, CT is just so sad to be believed. What must not be done is jumping to the conclusion that it was the guns fault and getting on the gun ban wagon. It is not the guns that kill, it is the SSRI drugs and mental conditioning of these children that does. Giving these drugs to kids is like giving a two year old a loaded and cocked hair-triggered gun! The out right banning of these kinds of drugs is the ONLY way to begin to stop this murder of innocents for a gun ban agenda. Prozac, Zoloft, Luvox, Paxil, and all related SSRI antidepressant drugs must be made as illegal as heroin, cocaine, methamphetamines, or any other dangerous substance. There should be harsh attachments of jail time for the distribution of this poisonous evil. Dare you to take a look at this page and then answer the question, what is really responsible for these senseless shootings? http://www.ssristories.com/index.php And this one too: http://alignlife.com/news/antidepressant-drugs-are-probable-culprit-in-t... More? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE
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Another big-gummit lover, huh? You got the wrong site, pal.
Many schools used to have a gun range in the basement of the school so it was not uncommon for kids to have guns in school.
There are a few left but not as many as there used to be.
I was thinking something similar the other day as the original poster, maybe donating 50K to offer free gun safety training at the local gun range. I learned to shoot and be safe from my father and grandfather. I took a gun safety training course as a kid.
This is another downfall of the mega-farm, it used to be that there were many family farms where gun safety and hunting were part of the yearly routine.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
If you REALLY want to point out to the public just how much their representatives care (or don't) I suggest the following:
WHEN the next assault weapons ban is proposed we need a gun friendly rep to attempt to add an amendment such as:
"In the spirit of equality and to show that all amercians are indeed equal before the law it shall hereby be illegal to hire or cause to be hired armed private security guards or armed private security contractors to protect people, events or personal property.
No person while employed as a security guard may carry a firearm or any lethal weapon.
In addition no law enforcement officer may be employed nor accept renumeration to guard specific persons or premises unless said duties fall within their general work day.
Finally to show the extent of the full faith and committment that members of congress have in gun control measures each member voting in support of this law agrees to the following conditions:
All firearms owned by a supporting member of congress shall be permanently and publicly relinquished to the department of justice upon passage.
All supporting members of congress shall publicly renounce their 2nd amendment rights to keep and bear arms while they remain in office.
All supporting members of congress shall not have protective services prodvided by any local,state or federal agency except while physically located in Washington DC and while congress is in session.
Any member who votes in support of this measure and who violates these conditions shall immediately forfeit their office, and shall be tried for treason."
I'd love to see something like the above added in and watch some people SQUIRM on television.....
This is the model the socialist/communist have been using for the past forty plus years: Proproganda and indoctrination through the public school cirriculum. And it has paid off in spades for them as many of our young today identify themselves as progressives. What do you suppose are the political leanings of most teachers and professors today? If you do send your children to public schools, you must spend a minimum of an hour every night undoing all of the indoctrination that was done to your child by his/her school. The best solution is HOMESCHOOLING. You say it isn't possible for you or your spouse to do it, thats understandable, but there is someone in your neighborhood who does it for a resonable fee, that I can guarentee you. They are also much less likely to be shot or molested, as teacher/school employee on student sexual molestation is rampant now. Just do a "google", and you will see where this is happening almost daily now somewhere in the country. If you love your children, the last place you would send them is into the arms of progressive pedophile communist. Yes, the state will still get funding through your property taxes, but if enough people were homeschooling, the districts would be compelled to lay off teachers and staff, as there would not be enough students to warrant keeping them.
TV and Hollywood plus video games which is now Hollywood.
They very very much want to DISARM you and support O all the way.
Keep watching their shit folks because you enable it and enpower them.
Here is the bottom line: If you can’t convince people through rational debate that your position is the correct one, and, if you have to threaten them, lie to them, or brainwash them before they will adopt your ideas, then there is something wrong with your ideas. The truth wins out eventually under its own power. Only disinformation needs to be forcefully injected into the public consciousness. Obviously, there are a great many truths behind the concepts of individual self defense and gun ownership if gun grabbers find it impossible to prevail without subverting our youth.
The United States has a very long history of brainwashing their citizens. It isn't about to stop now. Institutions like the NRA have some of the finest minds at work creating a cult like mentality amongst its throng. The Christian Right has done a fabulous job maintaining their flock through endless lies and deceit. The U.S. military machine has fine tuned its ability to convince young men and women to put their lives on the line for "the good of the nation". Threats, lies, brainwashing and outright force is the American way.
And you have been brainwashed in wanting to take away my rights. Go F off.
no
You forgot to mention US 'american' citizenism, which is the mattering thing, the crustiest bit of the important something.
It's nature is eternal, you know.
PS: There is actually a strong element of truth in what you say in your post above, only it pertains not to Americans in particular, but to statists of ALL stripes --- and their naive, gullible and/or spineless followers.
true that
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/12/14/connecticut-school-shoo...
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
Where liberty dwells, there is my country.
God grant that not only the love of liberty but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man may pervade all the nations of the earth, so that a philosopher may set his foot anywhere on its surface and say: This is my country.
Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.
He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.
If you would not be forgotten
As soon as you are dead and rotten,
Either write things worthy reading,
Or do things worth the writing.
Never confuse motion with action.
-Ben Franklin
Right, because drone assassinations, extraordinary renditions, kill lists, no fly lists, NSA full-spectrum spying, indefinite detentions and the like have no impact on our civil liberties, but even considering that perhaps psychos shouldn't have access to the most advanced military assault rifles is instantly going to snuff them out??? Wake the fuck up.
How well did the 2nd amendment work out for the American Indian Movement, the Black Panther Party or even the Branch Davidians? The 2nd amendment is about firepower parity. Since no "state militia" can own nuclear weapons, the 2nd amendment as intended to deter federal tyranny is DEAD! Get that through your thick skull, Tyler. The 2nd amendment is dead and there never was a need to confiscate anyone's gun. You want to play around with guns? Fine, but I don't see why my kid's freedom to life and my family's freedom from terror should be subordinate to your gun fetish.
IS THERE ANYTHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR? Or should we just lie down and take what it offered to us with great appreciation? There is a lot to be said for choosing your battles wisely, but I do believe our choices are becoming more limited everyday.
I think you need to reconsider my question, "How well did the 2nd amendment work out for the American Indian Movement, the Black Panther Party or even the Branch Davidians?" These were all groups, not just individuals but groups, which came into armed conflict with, mostly, the federal govt. Did the 2nd amendment save them any liberties? Did it lead to any other concessions from the govt? Did it even protect their lives? And if so, then why and how did this come about?
Now, having answered these questions, honestly I hope, you can begin to see the practical applications of the 2nd amendment and what it can accomplish. So if you want to be get all idealistic about checks and balances and such here, then I suggest you brain storm another constitutional amendment and get that movement going.
Of course there are things worth fighting for, like the lives of school children for example and a society where I don't have to watch parents crying their hearts out all over the fucking country every week or where I have to rush to the phone to call my wife to make sure that she and the kids are OK because she happened to be in the time and place of one of these recent tragedies.
Yeah, and remember how the minutemen were massacred at Concord and then George Washington got hung?
You missed my entire point about firepower parity. Back in the 18th century, a musket got you firepower parity with a national army. In the 21st century, that is no longer the case, since you can't own a carrier group or an ICBM. Believe it or not, the state of technology actually has some impact on legal systems. The 2nd amendment is one of those cases where technology has made that law an anachronism. Even assault rifles no longer offer you defense in the face of a federal tyranny. Owning one for that purpose is just kidding yourself. I own guns because I enjoy shooting them but I have no illusions about this somehow defending any of my liberties.
And you miss the point that just recently we had two thirds of all of our frontline combat forces in a dinky little country and they were in no way able to keep a lid on things. All the latest and greatest technology running around the clock and things did not calm down until we started to pay the opposition. Did the opposition get hurt? yes, but it appears that the "nothing to lose" scenario worked for them. If things went totally haywire here do you think that a conflicted military would have much luck keeping the lid on 100 million armed people living in an area of 3 million 800 thousand square miles?
In a scenario where the US military is defeated, the US is invaded and occupied by a foreign power, you are right. Gun ownership of the kind that you advocate would actually be beneficial. The problem is that the odds of this happening might as well be zero. The kind of tyranny that you fear is already here and, surprise, they let you keep your guns but you are no better off for it. So now, you have to admit that either 1) the US is the kind of free Republic that the constitution intended or 2) the 2nd amendment did jack shit as your rights were being taken away from you. I know, thinking is uncomfortable but now you have to wait for the paint to dry to leave the corner you're in without making a mess.
If you think that the colonials were as well equipped as the British Army and Navy you need to go back to the books. The colonials had no artillery until they stole it. They had no ships until they could beg help from France. They had very limited supplies of powder and lead as compared to the British. The British were shocked at colonial resilience and when their ultimate defeat came the British thought that "The World Turned Upside Down."
Got nothing for you. You want a world where nothing bad can happen, while I want a world that allows me to defend myself from bad things happening.. You believe the government can provide you the security you desire while I do not. I think the proof is on my side. Hope and change are on yours. Good luck.
Beastie Boys - you gotta fight for your right to PARTY
Come clean now, is this Biden?
If a state does not have a monopoly on violence inside its own borders it will soon cease to become a state.
The Left-wing anti-gun lobby are focusing attention on banning assault rifles after the Newtown incident. This is the thin end of the wedge. It's the step-by-step gameplan.
What they won't come out and admit is that the next time there's any sort of gun incident, there'll be another outcry and they'll be calling for that type of gun to be banned too. After a handful of incidents, there'll get what they want: a total ban on guns to ensure the American people are defenceless.
The socialist elites will have a party before they screw you.
don't understand the -2. someone care to explain?
You are already defenseless and your guns are your soma.
I probably understand your point. But a man armed with a gun is only defenceless if he chooses not to use it, and that decision is often based upon whether he has anything left to lose.
When you fill out a federal firearms form, you disclose if you're currently on psychotropic drugs. If you are, you're not getting a gun....And, the government can definately track who is on these drugs. The problem is, half of America is on one of these drugs and that's cutting the market down a little too much for the NRA.
Why do people have so much trouble with the "well regulated" part of the second amendment?
Probably because there are different definitions for "regulate" and not all of them infer ten thousand pages of Uncle Scam's law.
Today it would mean well-supplied and trained on a regular schedule.
The Second means what it says, and says what it means.
NO EO or "law" can undermine it. You are not required to follow an illegal law.
Historical term "well regulated" has nothing to do with bureaucratic rules and regulations. Read the rest of the US Constitution and you'll see a completely different term of art employed when regulations are to be promulgated. A well regulated militia describes a body of men who are capable of bearing arms, who maintain competence in their usage and upkeep, who possess said arms, and are capable of operating as a unit.
Should well regulated militia have psych tests for members?
It has always been and will always be the survival of the fittest. Just hoping the fittest aren't politicians.
Oh yea, taking on the government to keep your 'liberty'. Good luck with that one. I can just picture the scene now...
The light was just appearing over the horizon, the crowds roar was a low rumble of anticipation. The US military was cowed, some were openly sobbing and tearing to remove their Teflon jackets, and put their rocket launchers down.
The echoes of Larry Pratt’s pre-war speech still reverberated in the rafters of the small farm come fortress, just outside Buttfuck Alabama. He would not be there in person as he was counting his money elsewhere, but he would be there in spirit.
The gun owners linked arms linked in unison, hair standing on end, roared en masse, foaming at the lips as they stared down the tanks and drones of the US government.
Evoking memories of Charlton Heston and legends of yore, with shouts of ‘liberty’, the gun owners charged, shooting wildly into the air before stopping and reloading furiously, the smoke rising on the cold winters morning, causing the governments navy seals watching a mile or two away to squat down eyes rolling in fear.
Suddenly the low rumble of the gun owners turned into a roar as the leader of these heroic warriors stepped out into the freezing sleet, as if he was walking out onto a beach in aruba. What was the cold to this leader of men? A general for the ages, a man tales are written in stone for.
Bill Richardson started shooting with a long range rifle. Women dropped in their children in an effort to get a hold of the shell casings that had been blessed by their hero. Women and children were afaint at the sight of his majestic shooting. What could the ‘government’ do when the war actually started?
The US military were beaten in spirit by the baying crowd and the sight of the mythical warriors. Still they lined up, determined to go out in glory or die trying.
Suddenly there was an almighty blast of a horn, and a humongous stag came bounding through the mists…Sat on the stags back was the hulking figure of David Vitter. Such was the awe and reverence one could hear a pin drop…Vitter let out a low rumble…”Liberty” he intoned, as the now sizeable crowd let out a low breathless Ooooooooh, knowing the US Military machine had already been beaten before they had even launced one Tomahawk missile in anticipation of the grinding slaughter they knew was coming.
After the enivatable victory, with the landscape littered with the wreckage of downed drones, shot down missiles, and the shells of burned out tanks, the gun owners were able to go back home, happy that liberty had been restored and do all the other things that normal citizens ‘need’ assault weapons for, such as looking for the Jersey Devil, or well, just having them, as some document you've never read from 200 years ago says you can.
Ah, the great US military which hasn't won a decisive victory in 60 years... Everything has its weakness.
Grenada?
These gun owners, and everyone that you thought of when you wrote this little essay were White, weren't they?
Go tell your short story to the vibrant and diverse communities in Baltimore and Chicago.
You wouldn't think about doing it; you are ignorant, but probably not that stupid.
Try to remember that guns must be taken from Black people, just like Whites.
Damn funny.
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/decl_men.htm
From article:
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixty six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.
The sad reality is that obama now has four years to put at least one more fucking liberal on the SCOTUS... perhaps even two?
fantastic read!
thankyou Mr. Smith
haha.
check out this link at breitbart: nra membership has surged to 8k/day since last week and is not letting up!
i just sent in another payment.
larry pratt's goa is another good group to join.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/20/A-Real-Public-Opinion...
Interesting photo of the author, a poster boy of the crazy brave and the phony tough....I've got $20 that says he'll pee his pants when a 5'2" taiwanese dude breaks both his kneecaps using only his hands and feet defending his property.
Man, I hope guns won't be as hard to find as illegal drugs are now...hell, that might lead to more social cohesion as millions of white boys go to the hood and barrios to buy ammo and guns instead of weed and coke.
I'm just glad Neo lib statists have short attention spans and will be on to the next spoon-fed media outrage de jour before too long.
Won't even get a single drum circle out of this tragedy.
Well, from this tragedy, they're eventually going to ban the sale of assault weapons.....Of course this won't stop anything as there's so many of these weapons in the marketplace right now....The NEXT instance will cause a house to house confiscation. It will be at that point where the rubber meets the road. And if you take the second amendment to heart, then be my guest in battling a so-called tyranical government. I look forward to how that turns out!
Mofos better bring shovels and scuba gear
Dupe
Swiss & Israel; freest places in world
Wednesday December 19 12:00pm
1 hour
Gary Null – The Natural Living Show
http://archive.wbai.org/
who needs a frontal lobe anyway?
interview with dr. charles gant at minute 44.
the prior rant and lead up are also instructive.
” with no frontal lobe there can be no motive.” c.g.
that sounds like a plausible legal defense. oh boy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfScPPysADQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSvzwDsgrs8&feature=youtu.be
Social engineering of the most pernicious kind is going on all the time in the USA. It is second only to war as the story of the 20th century. For example, see the book "The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing" by E. Michael Jones.
The book is discussed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGkb8Kuy9SI
Goobermint Fucking hypocrites!!
http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/pension-gun-makers-invest/2012/12/20/id/468599
public pensions have no problem in investing in arms manufacturers, junk food producers, slave labor arbitrage companies, etc, when it makes THEM money. If they invested like the pc crap they try to stick on everyone else, us poor taxpayers would be stuck wasting more money shoring up their pensions to "make them whole".
Author, that was superb writing, & thanks so much for articulating specifically into words & actual arguements how everyone under 40 feels about this terrible tragedy in Newtown. Rational debate is so important b/c when you poke people's illusions sometimes they get very angry, as truth is unfortunately an uncomfortable concept for most if not all people.
Not only was the writing & arguements great but i love how only on Zerohedge will a major article be written posting a prez of the usa using the 'N" word to refute a Reuters article. Hey, Reuters- I expect a response to Zerohedge tomorrow defending your stupid ass argument about Johnson giving a shit or being in any way responsible for the civil rights movement of the sixties.
Its a good point - if any of our great devotees of civil rights really gave a rat's rear about black Americans, then the outrage would be on-going at the number of black Americans being butchered in criminal violence day by day...but as they mostly die in areas completely controlled by the Democrat party, no one cares.
A curious fact has come to light - 20% of African-American males aged 18-29 voted for Mitt Romney in 2012...and I doubt it was because they found a sudden love for an overly-white, rich guy...I think it was just a protest at the way they are treated like garbage and taken for granted...there is fertile ground in America for a properly revolutionary movement - as long as it is understood that a genuine revolution is restorationist...an attemp to restore the good of what was, while discarding the evil that is, without goiong back to the evil that was.
Did anyone expect something different from this administration? One of the first memorable quotes during the first months of them taking office was something to the effect of "never let a good crisis go to waste". That has been the Obama working mantra from day one and will continue to be so until he's out. Of course Bush did the same thing he just didn't or couldn't articulate it as well.
It does show, though, in more naked terms than usual just how the Statist hope to control the future - this is not so much a call to arms (pardon) about gun rights but about yet another reason to press for school choice - to end the absurd, asinine idea of "free and compulsory" education. As if it is actually free, but it is certainly compulsory...so everyone gets to spend their youth being indoctrinated in whatever the Ruling Class prefers at the moment.
I have often wondered, when the media shows our soldiers traveling through a city in an occupied country, one often sees muslums walking around with plentiful carbines (AK-47's). Our soldiers, being armed, do not appear to be alarmed, or seeking to take these weapons from all people not in uniform. Has anyone else ever noticed, and wondered, if the muslums (who appear to be armed to the teeth), can walk around a major city or town with real machine guns (capable of delivering 650 rounds per minute), without having their own folks, or our troops freaking out? Why they make a big deal of carry & conceal here, and these people are allowed to openly carry loaded machine guns. Does anyone see the irony?
Its a culture thing in most moslem countries, owning a gun is a rite of passage for young men.
The Sandy Hook massacre looks more like a false flag attack or something equally sinister as every day goes by, and reveals that the official story contradicts eye witness accounts and first reports. The latest discrepancy is this:
http://www.newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-14__10-59-12/Gunman+Opens+Fire+In+Sa
That local newspaper made first reports and got the first widely published pictures outside the school.
At 10:59:05 a.m., it quotes the principal describing a masked gunman opening fire in the school.
At 7:38:55 p.m., another report describes her as a tragic hero who confronted the gunman immediately. Later national reports describe the principal as killed 'execution style' by the gunman when she confronted him immediately.
So which is it? Did she describe the masked gunman to the local newspaper or was she executed instantly by him?
This might look like a case of mis-attribution of the quote, mistaken identity by the newspaper by quoting her in the first report, but, but, but...there are other discrepancies.
Like eye witness reports of accomplices; police scanner audio and visual tapes of suspects fleeing the scene; arrested, and yet no further explanation of their whereabouts or identity. Men described as wearing 'cam trousers and black tops'.
There is no eye witness account of Adam Lanza holding a gun. His mother, the suspected CIA agent, spent the previous days in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire - that well known haunt of politico-bankster-CIA gatherings.
The Newtown medical examiner says the victims were shot with a rifle, but the rifle was found in the car outside the school. We are told that Lanza killed himself inside the school, so how can the alleged killer weapon rifle be in the car outside the school?
And how can a young man described as mentally ill behave like a trained marksman, efficiently killing many within minutes ... at a school where he had no known connection, yet the media promotes the false idea that his mother was a teacher there. She wasn't.
However, if the teacher role was her cover story, then the son might be forced there by others who killed his mother, and thought she worked there. Who were they sending a message to, hey Obama? Got problems with your foreign wars and revenge attacks? Something you'd like to confess?
The official story does not match the known facts.
You can add this to the list of craziness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JV3KYBS64R8
Medical Examiner interview - Dr Carver
Something smells to high heaven about this case. You're right about one thing... how does a manchurian gunman kill so quickly and efficiently?
Former KGB secret police agent hired by DHS to consult for better security in America. Real bang up job there doing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Primakov
Texas just passed a law to allow teaches to conceal carry.
Next, an exported post that I found very interesting.. Enjoy.
You can’t have a new world order and a totalitarian system when people have guns. In ALL socialistic/communistic/dictatorships, the FIRST thing they did was issue gun control, then a total gun ban.
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
IT’S A NO BRAINER!
DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!
It’s time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us.
You’re not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people~
As a brit I was all for gun control till fox news boss came out in favor of it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/20/bernstein-murdoch-ai...
Does this mean petraeus was a patriot?, echoes of smedley butler and prescott bush and the failed fascist coup of the thirties to me.
I'd just like to reiterate this part of the OP for those with selective memory...and they know who they are:
Where the fuck were the likes of you when that was going down? I hear plenty from you now about 'Communist, Socialist, Muslim Kenyans' and taking back your country and all the rest of your happy horse shit...but you were AWOL when it was your man doing essentially the same things(and I'm not referring to just posters here on ZeroHedge).
The Oblahmas or the George W. Bushes, I make no distinction...and it all goes back much further than those two.
“I think we’ve been frightened ever since we landed on these shores. We were frightened of the native people.; we were frightened of the slaves we brought over, as we should have been. And those in power have known how to manipulate us with fear. And we’ve started wars over being told lies about, you know — whether it was in the Spanish-American War, the Mexican-American War. You can go through so many of these wars we’ve been in throughout history — right up through the Iraq War — where we’re just lied to because those in power knew if they just put enough fear out there. And the best kind of fear is the one that has the kernel of truth, so you have 9/11 happened — that’s a real incident, nearly 3,000 people lose their lives. Very easy at that point to use that fact in a way to tell a fiction.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/20/michael-moore-many-americans-desire-to-own-guns-stems-from-their-racial-fears/#ixzz2FgwWU3MXThe "gun" problem in the USA could be resolved way easier. Just make a bullet $500 and then just sit back and relax. Learning of this people will surely be more reticent about buying guns/bullets and you could make gun sellers take notes on everyone that buys more than 20 bullets. See? Easy!