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Plan 'C' Anyone? Boehner Humiliated As "Plan B" Lacks Enough Votes To Pass

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Update: wow:


Absolute total chaos. ES at lows of the days right now. Luckily, at least the debt ceiling is a firm deadline... Sometime in late March. Oh, and goodbye Boehner?

Market Reaction:

Finally, the outcome really is not that complicated as we pointed out over a month ago:


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Following the unexpected gavel-out recess from the house, it appears Plan B is a no-go...


Plan 'C' anyone? EURUSD and ES sliding a little more on this news...


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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:40 | 3084866 inevitablecollapse
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wow...i am jack's complete lack of surprise...

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:22 | 3084966 I think I need ...
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everyone have nice christmas and happy new year!!!!!!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:54 | 3085109 Zer0head
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Flaccid - or should I say  Foehlccid

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:37 | 3085273 Never One Roach
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The California city of San Bernardino paid $2 million in cash-outs to employees for unused vacation and sick time in the three months before declaring bankruptcy on August 1, data reviewed by Reuters show.


Everything's just fine. Go back watching Dancing with the Idols and eating those cheeseburgers.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 01:40 | 3085847 Element
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Do those 'market' charts look a little neurotic to you?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 07:19 | 3086127 Go Tribe
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Neurotic? No, they look like someone about to snap and go shoot up an elementary school.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:19 | 3086172 GetZeeGold
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The freakishly over sized Oompa once again foiled by those damn conservatives.


He thought he was in charge....turns out.....not so much.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 09:15 | 3086270 trav777
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the democraps will never split...they are lockstep with each other, PARTY COMRADE right or wrong.

What this shows is that the country is no longer a country.  Years of multicult and the massive divergence in just core values between the yankees and the left versus the conservative white population means that we need secession/partition.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:52 | 3085122 knukles
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O and Reid to come up with Budget Plan.
Not a budget, just a plan.

Dare ya'!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:24 | 3084973 I Got Worms
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With exactly 100 billion to go to the debt ceiling, I see late January as the breach at the current burn rate. Check this debt clock link:


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:43 | 3085068 Ness.
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No prob... the currency exchange is still open.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:25 | 3084974 LongSoupLine
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Holy fuck!!

Nobody could have seen this coming...NOBODY!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:44 | 3085069 ACP
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I've never had a Boner this humiliated!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:47 | 3085096 Supernova Born
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Wonder why the middle class is screwed?

Three classes, two parties.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:53 | 3085124 knukles
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:13 | 3085392 cougar_w
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Whoa. All kinds of seemingly stupid random shit just started to make sense.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 03:46 | 3085996 woolly mammoth
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Very good. Thanks for the chuckle.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 00:00 | 3085551 Againstthelie
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I think, the failing of the "Plan B" has been orchestrated: it allows, that the anti-tax-lawmakers can keep their face, keep their voters, without going over the cliff: Therefore they got out today.

Boehner can now work out a compromise with Obama over weekend, since he doesn't need to take care of the hardliners anymore and then the votes without the hardliners will be enough to get a deal done.

A quite clever game from the hardliners, to keep up the believe of their voters.

At least nobody here and so far nobody of the journalists has recognized, that this seems an orchestrated exit-strategy. "Plan B" works - but plan B is another one than the sheeple believe.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 10:58 | 3086627 trav777
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there's a struggle within the GOP.  There are two factions now, the actual conservativish ron paul style wing, teaparty, etc., and the GOP that wants to be Democrats.

Remember, the GOP House voted DOWN TARP. 

This mirrors the growing divide between the blue and red sections of the USA.  If you look at any electoral county-by-county map, you can clearly see the problem and it is only worsening.

Demagogues in cities are using their population advantages to screw 99% of the rest of their jurisdictions.  This is because cities, despite the malarky about "GDP" (cities are heavily SERVICES, NOT PRODUCTION) are net drains of resources.

Think about that most reliable blue city, NYC (or DC).  Think about how much fresh water gets sucked in and how much trash and sewage go out.   The rest of the state has to subsidize NYC and in response, the population advantage the city has up and VOTES to abscond with the water and send back trash and sewage.  It doesn't matter what real thing it is.  NYC doesn't power itself, water itself, feed itself.  It merely VOTES that someone else do so.

You have seen the same thing a little more starkly in places like NV, where Vegas used its population majority to vote itself the water upstate that ranchers and growers (on their own land) thought they should use for ranching and growing.  And, in doing so, they shut production down.

But who cares, right?  Someone ELSE will just feed us, sayeth the cities.  With vast tracts of Section 8, there is a giant voting bloc, in NYC up to 30% of the population, that has no clue where ANYTHING comes from; they are a cargo cult.  Pulling a voting lever to them = getting stuff.

California is a study in population bullying neighboring states as well...CA can't even keep their own lights on; the voters have SPOKEN and they expect electricity but without power plants.  Liberalism is a form of insanity, seriously...a mental illness.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 07:42 | 3086140 Go Tribe
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He'll hold a press conference today in his crying voice.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:25 | 3084978 fockewulf190
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Bullish for Phyzz.  Expect another smashdown to commence shortly.  2013 is going to be one fucked up year for sure.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 00:14 | 3085593 Againstthelie
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Look at Golds almost perfect correlation with growing debt. A deficit reduction of 50% would smash Gold in the short-medium term.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 04:04 | 3086017 Hobbleknee
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But there will never be a deficit reduction.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:34 | 3086194 Againstthelie
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600 bn/year higher taxes is no reduction of the deficit?

Invest accordingly. Be prepared.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:45 | 3086216 StychoKiller
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-1, NEVER is a lonnnng time.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:44 | 3085076 Jumbotron
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wow...i am jack's complete lack of surprise...


From Fight Club ...the Novel


I found stacks and stacks of Reader's Digest in the basement, and now there's a pile of Reader's Digest in every room. In the oldest magazines, there's a series of articles where organs in the human body talk about themselves in the first person: I am Jane's uterus. I am Joe's Prostrate. I am Joe's Gallbladder. I am Joe's Raging Bile Duct. I am Joe's Grinding Teeth. I am Joe's Inflamed Flaring Nostrils. I am Joe's White Knuckles. I am Joe's Enraged, Inflamed Sense of Rejection. I am Joe's Clenching Bowels.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:53 | 3085104 akak
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I am Joe's ulcerated Stomach.

I am Joe's Fed-kicked Nutsack.

I am Joe's Bernanke-raped Anus.

I am Joe's status-quo-powers-that-be propagandized Brain.

I am the American citizen's former Spine.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:00 | 3085156 Eternal Complainer
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I am Joe Biden's failed gun confiscation scheme.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:02 | 3085361 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I am Joe Poorfarmer, member and one of the many monarchs of the US American 'american' citizenenism middle class (the king class), shit on more than a Chinese citizenism roadside.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 10:35 | 3086531 GetZeeGold
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I am Jon Corzine.....and I am still at large.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:20 | 3085422 Tijuana Donkey Show
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I was worried about the gun thing until they put Biden on the case. Worrying about Biden taking your guns is like an eskimo worrying about running out of ice. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:22 | 3085233 tnquake
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I am Boner's limp dick.

I am Pukelosi's ugly snatch.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:41 | 3085286 Papasmurf
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Circular reasoning.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:52 | 3085116 ball-and-chain
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Speaker Boner is a rube.

He needs to go back to his room and cry some more.

What a loser.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:40 | 3085279 brettd
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who could replace him?  Cantor?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:49 | 3085310 Supernova Born
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Eric Cantor, the invisible man.

Dick Cheney must have given Cantor his key to the "undisclosed location".

Cantor is an opportunist, not a fighter.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 09:17 | 3086275 trav777
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he's tribe, go figure

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 04:15 | 3085987 vato poco
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WTF is it with republicans? It must be something actually physiological: their eyes SEE the words "party leadership" just fine. But by the time it zips down the optic nerve into their 'brains', it gets processed as "impotent, incompetent pussies" - and so they vote their "leadership" accordingly. You see a skinny kid getting sand kicked in his face by bullies at the beach, you kinda feel bad for him, sure. But when it goes on for 80 or 90 freakin' *years*, and the punk kid never once calls Charles Atlas; or looks into Krav Maga; or hires a, "opposition research" to ruin that mean old bully.......

You start to figure maybe the skinny kid IS a pussy. Either that, or he likes being the big bullies' little bitch. Yo! Boehner! Fuck You, ya gutless candyass!!! Now go have a good cry at Nancy's: she'll hold you while you sob, maybe she'll take you down to the tanning salon like you like, and soon you'll feel much better.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 07:36 | 3086137 Go Tribe
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They think  like morticians.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:53 | 3085117 Ident 7777 economy
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This was Pelosi's plan right?


The tax-only-millionaries and above plan? (Which she NOW says was a 'ploy')



Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:59 | 3085147 knukles
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Stepford Wives syndrome.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:12 | 3085197 Yen Cross
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 AKA " Inbred Jed" syndrome.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:23 | 3085433 Harbanger
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Someone should tell these American socialists that Russia only has a 13% flat tax.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:47 | 3085130 vast-dom
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see Tyler when you try to keep calling the Ponzi game you get your ass handed to you.

careful now. this motherfucker is rigged and when the scam doesn't come together you get your face ripped off: plan D E F....con.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:58 | 3085541 Lost Wages
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Good idea. Let's put Jack from Jack in the Box in charge. Anything's better than this clown show.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:41 | 3084868 max2205
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Print baby

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:42 | 3084870 Bunga Bunga
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:41 | 3085054 Cursive
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@Bunga Bunga

Is this your advice for Boehner?  I literally chuckled at the ZH retweet that there was booing in the emergency house meeting as cry baby wuss paints complete fuck up umpa lumpa colored Boehner was going down in flames.  Please, please TD, when Boehner is pushed over his own cliff, give us a name the caption for it.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:33 | 3085262 TuesdayBen
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How about Cock Blocked?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:41 | 3084872 max2205
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Get to work Ben, fucking last ass congress won't do shit.....again

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:47 | 3084886 cougar_w
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Yeah it's like they didn't take any lessons away from the brutal tongue lashing he gave them last time he gifted Congress moar moniez.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:33 | 3085019 IndicaTive
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Maybe a good time-out will work this time

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:42 | 3084873 michiganmaven
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Someone call Kevin from the Fed !!!! Markets are down 4 points !! the world is ending PRINT BUY PRINT BUY PRINT BUY FED !

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:42 | 3084874 IridiumRebel
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:50 | 3084894 Bunga Bunga
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until Failer's plan 'F' fails.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:14 | 3084933 IridiumRebel
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See ya in the hot tub!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:24 | 3084972 NoDebt
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Sub-6.5% unemployment is fading away back over the horizon- and you know what that means.  Print-Party time!!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:29 | 3084991 THX 1178
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Who's Failer? Tim FAILtner? Ben BerFAILkne? Barack OFAILma? John BoehnFAIL? Nancy FAILosi? FAILly Reid?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:30 | 3084995 THX 1178
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And who could forget FAILlary Clinton?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:52 | 3085121 Bunga Bunga
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You got on the FAILMA camp list.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:51 | 3085324 THX 1178
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:51 | 3085113 IridiumRebel
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:22 | 3084969 1100-TACTICAL-12
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I know it's laughable but I called my Rep. Mike Conway for the 1st time. No new tax period cut cut cut.. SNAP,DHS,TSA,whatever it takes..I know it does not really matter but I had a good buzz and said what the hell

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:43 | 3084875 Water Is Wet
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:05 | 3084908 cougar_w
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If they close their eyes and wish really really really really hard with all their best wishing hopes, and squeeze their lucky rabbit's foot, and pray to the tooth fairy really really really earnestly maybe it will all just go away.

Someone needs to write this up as a horror flick. All horror flicks have a scene just like this where everyone becomes stupid, except it's usually some stuck-up chick with big knockers whining "this is not happening this is not happening" when you say outloud shut up you stupid skank anyone can see it's happening and if all your brains weren't in your actual tits you would have been 15 miles away already on a Greyhound headed for Bakersfield.

That kind of flick. Except with Congressional leaders. And some of them can be men.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:07 | 3085182 knukles
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clicking little red shoes together...

Priceless imagery...:)

big tittied dumb ass skank getting on some dumpy old bus for Bakersfield, land of opportunity while the rest of the world is consumed by the golem loosed from the Congressional attic.......


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:36 | 3085269 cougar_w
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Yeah yeah but get this ... In Bakersfield she gets a crappy job as a waitress in an all-nite diner, hooks up with an abusive boyfriend who grows pot in his basement, and feels like life has passed her by (never mind that all her friends were killed by a golem). Just when things are the most bleak for her she serves coffee to an influential casting agent who, on seeing those big bazookas fall out of her uniform, tells her he has this great part in a movie he's casting if she's willing to take a chance. She tosses her apron into the sink, jumps in his rented car and leaves Bakersfield forever, never looks back, and goes on to enjoy a modestly successful career doing cheesy horror flicks playing the stupid stuck-up chick with big boobs who always gets whacked 8 minutes in.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:43 | 3085285 knukles
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Cougar, you are on one helluv a roll tonite.
I got grins readin' ya' all over
Stay on it and enjoy

Say and doesn't half way though her next horror movie the golem come out, starts eating everybody and she winds up back on the bus to Bakersfield?  Sorta Pulp Fiction like sequence?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:58 | 3085350 cougar_w
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I'm just tuned, that's all. Some days are like that. Glad you enjoyed it. I did.

Got shit done at work, but so what. The world is going off a cliff, not much of anything making sense right now.

I'm writing a novel on the topic. Been getting into more than usually lately. Writing tunes me hard because the story is about hard nasty goings on. Bad things happening to good people, far worse things happening to bad people, and unthinkable things happening to all the people again and again and again and again.

No way out. There is a narrow place in the wall of extinction where you can squeeze through leaving everything else behind. But even that is not the way out. It's just the other side of no way out.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 04:41 | 3086039 Yen Cross
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Knuckles does have a point?  Short and Sweet/

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:51 | 3086223 StychoKiller
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Anyone check the Mayan pyramids to see if the secret chambers have opened?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:12 | 3084876 cougar_w
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What the actual fuck. Okay now they're just screwing with us.

next up: Hanky Paulson on bent knee pleading for A Plan Any Plan At All even though it has nothing to do with him.

Update: Okay I get it, there can be no Plan now. I was saying a week ago they are going to scrap the whole "debt ceiling" thing and just print their way into moral perdition, I guess that's as likely an outcome now as any. This is going to end so badly ... in about July. This time next year we're not going to be think that any of this was funny.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:44 | 3084878 DMA
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More acomodation policy ? 



Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:44 | 3084882 Orly
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Where can I get cheap beats from Dr. Dre?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 10:39 | 3086544 Uncle Remus
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Where can I get my poodle clipped in Burbank?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:46 | 3084888 icanhasbailout
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Plan F

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:48 | 3084892 nmewn
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Plan C...for Christmas.

Pass a 90 day extension of current tax rates and whatever else is needed to postpone the “fiscal cliff,” and go home for Christmas to give time for a Grand Bargain which puts Democratic sacred cows on the table.

Fuck em.

Let Harry Reid refuse to bring it to a vote, and Obama refuse to sign it. Their inaction will be the reason for taxes rising for >>>everyone.

Everyone...sing along now...

IIIIIIII'lllllll be home for Christmas, if on-ly in-my-dreams ;-)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:14 | 3084935 A Lunatic
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Ah yes, the old everyone blames somebody else while the taxpayers get ass raped again, zero accountability play.....

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:22 | 3084968 nmewn
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Yep...the post was just updated.

IIIIIIII'llllllll be hooome for

Thank you TPer's for standing tall...REALLY. The answer is no, lets all take a ride off the "fiscal cliff"...together ;-)

They need us, we do not need them.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:28 | 3085250 brettd
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I like the cliff.  

Sure, the tax rates go up, but I get spending cuts that I've only dreamed of for 30 years. 

Bring it on.  I'll take the hit. 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 01:06 | 3085804 Renewable Life
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Amen Brother, I can't wait for the CIA and Pentagon to have to dip in to that Iran-Contra money from the 80's/90's to keep the phones on!!! Maybe we can get a break now from the phony "war on drugs, war on terrorism, and the fucking war on every American citizen" with the patriot act and and all its ugly spawn!!

Wait for it, Jan 3rd will have a fucking aircraft carrier sunk in the gulf and about 5000 dead and wounded seamen, and THEN the fucking tax's will go up without any spending cuts!! You fucking watch, you think im crazy, you just watch, these defense contractors motherfuckers are some serious cats, some shit is going to go down, BIG TIME, if you hold their slush money hostage!


Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:23 | 3086178 stant
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now you know why that admiral got perp walked off his carrier

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:09 | 3084922 Essential Nexus
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Hilarious.  I wonder though, do the indicies open UP tomorrow?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 02:03 | 3085893 dark pools of soros
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Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:10 | 3084923 j0nx
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GOP is in pure chaos. You've got boner and his half basically a second wing of the democratic party and the tea party diehards as the other half who want nothing to do with this RINO bullshit. Until boner and crew rediscover their roots and stop sucking banker and section 8/illegal cocks then the GOP is a lost cause. It's time to choose boys. Americans are hungry for conservatism again, not dems in RINO clothing. As far as I am concerned a RINO is just another word for liberal.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:19 | 3084952 cougar_w
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"Americans are hungry for conservatism again"

Where did you come up with that? Americans are hungry for distraction and novelty. Unless conservativism includes a $500 gift certificate good for any online purchase at the Apple Store, I can't see Americans giving two shits about it. And no, $250 won't cut it. Five large or stay home.

The GOP should hire me as a consultant, I could straighten them out.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:28 | 3084993 NoDebt
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"The GOP should hire me as a consultant, I could straighten them out."

No.  You couldn't.  (It's been tried.)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:00 | 3085154 Freddie
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Cut EVERYTHING (!!) 10 to 15% and put that on the table and tell the Dems to go F themselves.


This does not break my Hollywood (and TV) is corrupt Obam shit because it is a French director with a English actor who is not a libtard.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:31 | 3085258 brettd
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Interesting how a small but committed group people (TP) are a force. 


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:12 | 3084928 Al Huxley
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Ohhh, this is so exciting!  I wonder how it will turn out?  I wonder if they'll raise the debt ceiling?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:13 | 3084931 chump666
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c'mon hit 1.00%- and hold, DXY bid over 10% and Asia gets destroyed...we might, might, have a Christmas sell off. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:13 | 3084932 e-man
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Krugman is working on Plan 9 From...

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:16 | 3084946 Almost Solvent
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his anus

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:24 | 3084970 cougar_w
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... Outer Space! Greatest bad movie evar.

It might be fun to do a kind of "Hitler learns that..." spoof on P9FOS, changing the dialog to be snips of Congressional testimony. It has zombies, wierd chicks, badly dressed space men, wacky scientists, jar-headed jocks, actual pie plates for invading space saucers, and really stupid cops. A cultural gold mine for our troubled times.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:18 | 3085420 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It has zombies, wierd chicks, badly dressed space men, wacky scientists, jar-headed jocks, actual pie plates for invading space saucers, and really stupid cops.

...and Criswell.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 08:57 | 3086232 StychoKiller
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Except for the pie plates, you've given a highly accurate description of Congress... :>D

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:38 | 3085038 N_Jones
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+1 for the plan 9 reference :)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:15 | 3084936 cafn8ed
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Plan 'B' - Aborted...

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:15 | 3084938 Dareconomics
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The order of the vote was telling. Once the hardliners were able to vote for spending cuts, they were free to break ranks and withdraw their support for the tax increase. Mr. Boehner is getting some payback for denying the tea party their share of committee assignments. 

Was Cantor double-crossed? He claimed he had the votes for Plan B, so he was either lying politicking or some R's changed their minds right before the vote was scheduled.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:19 | 3084955 Seer
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It's all theatre!

People who don't want something will vote for it knowing it'll fail (the pretense of the "leadership").  And those who really want it will vote (sometimes) against it, also knowing that it won't pass (cover their asses if they're in tight districts).

First and foremost it's about Their re-elections.  Behind the scenes they're able to get other deals for their controllers (inside info or other bills).

"Sometimes when you win, you really lose; and sometimes when you lose, you really win; and sometimes when you lose or win, you actually tie."

- Gloria (Rosie Perez) from the movie White Men Can't Jump

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:30 | 3085450 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's all theatre!'s Cliff Diving Retards, the holiday hit from the writers that brought you Raising Eurozona.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:14 | 3084939 Seer
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I think they should go for "Plan B From Outer Space"...

Or, "Plan P" (for Ponzi).

"The secret plan is that we're going to keep doing exactly what we've been doing, for as long as we can."

- Daniel Quinn, in, "What a Way To Go"

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:16 | 3084940 Eally Ucked
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What US needs is financial cliff. It may cause revolution though. Now we have Dems squeezing Reps balls because they want the CLIFF, do we understand it? Tax up, spenendig down that's what they want and there is escape goat too.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:35 | 3085270 brettd
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Will feel like the Nixon/Carter years. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:15 | 3084942 hannah
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funny to watch how 1% of our population can control the republican vote.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:11 | 3085192 knukles
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Like they got Fuck All Nothin' to do with the Democratic Vote

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:15 | 3084943 YesWeKahn
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One day, I will print a big "FUCK ME" sign on Bernanke's ass.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:17 | 3084951 scatterbrains
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lol but gold never telegraphed any of this stuff geez.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:20 | 3084958 Osmium
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My ES chart just froze up after that last dump. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:20 | 3084960 Wanton1
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Collapse is progress.  

Resistance is victory. 



Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:32 | 3085006 scatterbrains
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which collapse? wtf is the Mayan apocalypse starting already ? wait let me pour a little extra Amaretto in my eggnog coffee first  sheezzz

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:21 | 3084963 ugmug
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Plan C is to build a diving board (hint: walking the plank) off the Fiscal Cliff for all the taxpayers who need to be re-educated.


Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:22 | 3084964 q99x2
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Why doesn't someone call Rothschild and ask them what they've decided to do. Someone could have done that a long time ago and spared us the drama.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:22 | 3084965 Smuckers
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Finally, on a chart that isn't labelled "Silver"

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:21 | 3084967 michiganmaven
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Holy shit did we just frash crash after hours? Down 45 points in 1 - 5 minute bar !

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:24 | 3084971 RagnarDanneskjold
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How much leverage are you guys using? That chart is changing in increments of five ten-thousandths. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:25 | 3084975 Dadburnitpa
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Let 'em all bleed out.  It keeps things uncomplicated.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:26 | 3084979 Jason T
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bond holders want their interest.. no funny money.  Austerity coming for US?  

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:33 | 3085025 cougar_w
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Austerity? No.

Hell no.

We have cities here packed to the rafters with people who, if they don't get a $350 check every week from the government and their housing and health care 100% free of charge, will set their apartment complex on fire. People that do not care at all, not even a little bit. Any excuse at all -- power goes out, bus runs over a black kid, cop tasers someone -- and they break every window in every shop downtown and steal all the fashion sneakers and HD TVs for 20 blocks in all directions.

Austerity. That will be the God-dammed day.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:48 | 3085094 bunnyswanson
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It's not the people, it is the govt.  But you know that.  Austerity?  We are in auterity already.  China pulled 10 million out of poverty by taking 10 million US jobs you stupidsunofabith.  The corruption is at the top.  Trickle down theory indeed when the law makers break the laws - it's a green light to do what you have to in order to get what you want.


sethgary88 (signed in using yahoo)

It started with Ronald Reagan's "Trickle Down" nonsensical's through Bill Clinton's "Bridge To Nowhere", George Bush junior's "Shop Till The Economy Flops", and now Obama's Only "Hope and Change" for the worse. US All have been totally had by an American system that is Unbounded in corruption and hypocrisy. "When In Doubt, Throw The Incumbent Out" and repeat every election. "Disrupt The Corrupt!"
Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:24 | 3085238 cougar_w
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Okay fine. I shouldn't get down on the people. People have a lot of suck to work out that shouldn't be their's to deal with alone.

I don't know what to think anymore. I really don't.

All the suck is going to unwind, and a lot of people are going to get hurt, and nothing is going to change any of that and I don't know what to think about that anymore.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:53 | 3085525 Spastica Rex
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It is the way of things.

This is an amazing time to be alive.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:49 | 3085318 brettd
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Detroit has alot of available housing.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:51 | 3085323 Papasmurf
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In this system, the $350 check etc. is the most effective way to push money to the top.  If you don't understand why, you don't understand the system.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 23:00 | 3085357 cougar_w
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I know what you mean.

That's why it will some day be actual money falling out of actual helicoprters.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:26 | 3084981 jtmo3
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Simply amazing. And I though ALL spending was supposed to originate in the house. So Boner says the pres and senate leader have to do it. Remind me again why we even pay any of these cock suckers. Does anyone up there do what they're paid to do? Talk about a cushy .gov job!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:27 | 3084983 DMA
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Ok so for the young traders here. 

Those red candles are when stock markets drop. 

Many of you may never seen red candles. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:27 | 3084985 dvsteenk
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did I just see a flash crash?!

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:27 | 3084989 muppet_master
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what a COINCIDENCE !!!

on THE EVE OF 12-21-12......for the record....i called the recent SP500 TOP 2 days ago, when @ it closed @ 1444...still didn't violate the TOP.  How did the MAYANS KNOW ABOUT THE FISCAL CLIFF, PLAN B going down the drain??? is the SEC gonna get em?? LOL !!!!

i also called the TOP @ 1474 day after QE3....then started covering in phases @ 1370, 1360, 1354 and went long there (temporary bottom was 1343) out @ 1402, 1409 (black fri).

reshorted @ 1409, 1418.........= not perma bear or perma bull....and i scale in....most importantly NOT A PERFORMANCE CHASER....don't chase going down or chase going up

how do you scale in (when going against you) and how do you not chase?? simple = don't watch casino every second...maybe 10 minutes a day....just monitoring and deciding when to add to positions (scale in)

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:29 | 3084994 chump666
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flash crash on dow futures!    watch asia now...

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:37 | 3085041 cougar_w
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Whoa. Well it's still only about 1% of the close, but that's a mighty impressive move all the same.

Ben better get up early in the morning if he plans on getting ahead of this one.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:45 | 3085085 chump666
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it was a major move, but now supported as the algo's chew back into the averages again.  they did this with sandy with long positions following.  notice oil still holding.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:52 | 3085120 cougar_w
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The Fed and JPM probably had their entire stable of meth smoking trading Umpa Lumpas on standby going into the vote. Look it only took them 10 minutes to put in a strong bottom on futures. Asia will open and they'll be on it like white on rice.

It's like a beautiful machine, really. You have to grudgingly admire how it all works.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:06 | 3085181 chump666
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In someways I do admire it, but it's arrogant and flawed, like any human attempt at trying to control nature - which is basically the markets.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:12 | 3085195 bobert
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Everything will be as calm as Betty Lou on Bloomberg when we wake up. It's all under control. I'd hate to see her genuinely upset.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:31 | 3085014 dvsteenk
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CAC40 futures dropped from 3680 to 3580, now back on the rise... 3640

all in minutes

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:35 | 3085021 q99x2
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Dow -248 now.

Look up at the sky. There goes Blankfein with a Grinches Christmas booty.

Man the drones Homer. Don't let him get away.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:36 | 3085032 northerngirl
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Much to do about nothing, this will all play out just as TPTB planned.  In the end all the players will come together and state they did what was best for the country. 

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:35 | 3085033 dvsteenk
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seems like algos also hunt for stops in the other direction...?

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:39 | 3085040 RideTheWalrus
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Thelma & Louise also drove over a cliff after disagreeing with a Boehner




Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:39 | 3085046 SKY85hawk
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Y'all need to look behind the curtain!

The corporation, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, has exempted itself from all GAAP rules of fiscal management.  Proper accruals and timely reporting of the true condition of our country's finances would have woken people up many years ago. 

I hope Y'all remember that Obama and Boehner signed the 2011 Budget Deal. 

If Barry was true to his campaign promises, he would have vetoed the expiration of Bush tax cuts for the NON-wealthy.

Is it possible that these theatrical games prove that some politicians have woken up?

Is it possible that all the noise distracts us from the FACT that the Fiscal Cliff is really gonna happen?



Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:01 | 3085162 Tsar Pointless
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Perhaps some of those politicians have awoken. But, if they have, they've awoken to the reality that they aren't the hosts of the show.

They either have a hand up their back end, or are being controlled by a few strings from above.

If you don't get either of those references, I'm saying their puppets and/or marionettes.

Nothing more, nothing less.

That so-called "Fiscal Cliff" was driven off of over 40 years ago. It's just been one long, slow-motion trip down, that's all.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 09:11 | 3086254 therearetoomany...
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Cmon, we've had good times and good levels of wealth all ended, in my mind, when Perot lost his battle with Bush.  Perot KNEW the progressive world builders in the ivy walls of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia had plans for the future.   NAFTA was the first blow to show what the elite planned, in order to expand corporations world wide, we needed to lower the standard of living in the united states.  Why?  Because you can't have people in the US making 80k (at that time) to run a rivet gun while children are working in India and China and everywhere else just to get a few grains of rice to stay alive.  Within a decade we were importing 'cheap' labor from India, sending service jobs to India, China, Pakistan.   Slowly and surely, the standard of living in the US is being transformed to match the crap existence of the third world.  Just think what has happened in the past five years.   People losing jobs, being forced, if they want to work, into multiple 10 dollar an hour, or less jobs.  THis all started with Clinton and the republicans.   No surer sign that both parties don't give a shit...from there they've slowly eroded the constitutional freedoms.  

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:40 | 3085052 H E D G E H O G
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throw 'em a Boehn!!  arf!    Have a Great CHRISTmas and/or Holiday...................

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:41 | 3085056 Atomizer
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American Taxpayers won’t fuck around with US Civil Servant politician muggers until later. The international money managers who create money out of thin air, will get the plug pulled from of their inflatable sex toy first. We better ban those assault weapons, because Bernanke’s pea shooting ZIRP gun has run out of ammunition. /sarc


The Government neighborhood crime watch has no idea how to hide newfangled fraud & lie screenplays. Grab your popcorn folks.

William Shatner on Gun Control - It's How Well You Aim the Gun

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:16 | 3085210 knukles
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a round is a terrible thing to waste

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:30 | 3085255 Pareto
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+1 for the "thank god for guns Jay"

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 21:41 | 3085057 buzzsaw99
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Too funny.

Thu, 12/20/2012 - 22:45 | 3085304 VATICANT
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See you at the pahty Richter!

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