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Bulletproof Backpacks And Combat Apparel Sales Soar

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First gun sales soared, then Wal-Mart ran out of guns, then parents, stunned by the popular response in the aftermath of the Newtown mass murder which saw the White House threaten to curb the Second Amendment and lead to an even more unprecedented scramble for guns and ammo, and seeing nothing but confusion (but lots of bickering meant to extract nothing but political brownie points) out of the government instead of any hope of actual protection, decided it was time for some vigilante protection. The end result: sales of bulletproof backpacks have soared, with sales exploding as much as 500% since Friday. And since the white line from a defensive to an offensive posture is very thin, it is likely only a matter of time before we get the first media report of a 6 year old armed with a 44 caliber during recess.

From Daily News:

Sales of bulletproof backpacks for schoolchildren are through the roof days after a masked gunman's rampage left 20 kids dead at a Connecticut elementary school.

 

Parents began snapping up the high-tech bookbags Friday, the same day of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, Elmar Uy of the Massachusetts-based armor company BulletBlocker told the Daily News

 

In fact, the sudden spike in sales is how Uy, vice president of business operations, found out about the shooting.

 

"Part of my daily activity is to monitor the numbers," he said. "I was seeing numbers I'd never seen before and I thought it was a glitch. Our Web traffic was10 times more than normal.

 

BulletBlocker's child safety backpack is on sale for $199.99.

 

They also sell shields that start at $175 — bulletproof inserts that can slide into backpacks, laptop bags or purses. They add about 20 ounces — it's just like tossing a bottle of water in your bag, Uy said.

 

The company has seen a 300% to 400% increase in sales since the tragedy.

Where did this entrepreneur get the idea for this particular blockbuster business model? Another mass killing - Columbine.

The idea for BulletBlocker was sparked after the 1999 Columbine shootings. Creator Joe Curran wanted something to protect his school-age children.

 

Then he started sharing them with friends who had kids,” Uy said. “Our company is basically built around a single child’s backpack.”

 

Combat apparel company Amendment II, based in Utah, says their sales have also skyrocketed — at least 500% since Friday.

 

"(Bulletproof backpacks) were kind of a niche product before that shooting," co-owner and sales director Derek Williams told the Daily News.

 

"When we're selling a few a week, it doesn't take many to increase your sales," he said. "But yesterday we had over 200 requests for products."

 

Most were for bulletproof backpacks or backpack shields.

 

Amendment II uses a high-tech material called RynoHide, like Kevlar but super-light and flexible. They mostly sell to police and military, but started making products for civilians six months ago when they noticed an interest at trade shows.

 

"Parents were saying, hey I want one of these for my kid, can you get me this?" Williams said.

 

But he never thought interest would grow this big.

It is. And it is only going to get bigger due to two primary trends: i) the ongoing economic collapse of this country, which in spite of the rosy representation in the broad media, is in the 4th year of a raging depression and leading people to a position of sheer desperation and hopelessness, and ii) the absolute failure of the US government to be able to come to any resolution, in no small part driven by the fact that all lawmakers have handed over control of everything to monetary policy, i.e., the Fed; and iii) the rabid unwillingness of Americans to point the finger at the one person that matters - the person whose social responsibility and civic accountability has been evaporating steadily over the past two hundred years. Themselves.

Finally, the government apparently willing to create even more disastrous unexpected consequences with its intervention, is about to set off another avalanche, this time in demand for defensive armor:

Online, reaction to the kiddie armor reflected sadness.

 

"They are now selling bulletproof backpacks for children. What is this world coming to?" wrote Twitter user Courtney C. Jenkins, a pastor in Ohio.

 

Many called the backpacks a "sad sign of the times."

 

But parents eager to protect their kids may be buying into a trend that will soon be banned.

 

Some Miami schools are forbidding students from carrying backpacks as a safety precaution in the wake of the Newtown shooting.

Just brilliant job government: instead of giving people at least a fleeting impression they may be protected with one simple incremental action that hurts nobody, just box them into that one final corner, where Junior is armed by Senior with a 44 caliber or 9 millimeter. And nobody will have been able to anticipate the tragic consequences that will ensue as every child soon is armed.

In other news, we eagerly look forward to an epic surge in TASR stock as "Tazer: every Kindergartener's best friend" (made in China), appears imminently on Wal-Mart shelves everywhere.

 

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Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:41 | 3087394 toomanyfakecons...
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Please stop the madness... let's just have more responsibly armed citizens.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:56 | 3087458 francis_sawyer
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Shoulda armed himself...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vw7d6LSWmk

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:41 | 3087395 Racer
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Duh and if the gun man shot your feet or other bits that were sticking out, you would be still be holding it up in the same position?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:43 | 3087402 MelvilleSaysNo
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Just homeschool.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:45 | 3087410 Theos
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Fuck it i give up.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:46 | 3087413 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yeah right while you are standing there behind your back pack the gun man walks up and shoots you in the head. This is like a fucking Monty Python sketch.

The only answer is to ban guns. no guns no mass shootings simples.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:02 | 3087477 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Good luck with that. Will you volunteer to help (try to) enforce that? That should end well.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:14 | 3087529 Wile-E-Coyote
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Do you honestly think a few red necks with M16's can take on the US military. Best of luck with that.

It is all Bravado.

I just don't get it who are you lot protecting yourselves from? You have the biggest and best military in the world. Who is the bogey man?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:24 | 3087577 Tuco Benedicto ...
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You may be a coyote but wiley you are not!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:25 | 3087584 deeznutz
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Surly you are trolling.

Do you really think a few A-Rabs or Afghanis with AK-47s can take on the US military?

The Government is who the 2nd amendment protects us from.  The military will more likely stand down in a situation you infer from this thread.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:49 | 3087892 Colonial Intent
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Yeah sure they will, thats why DHS has been doing training exercises for just that 'situation'.

Ther is a resistance movement in america but its not a bunch of whiney assed racist religous zealots posting their impotent rage on a website forum, none of you offer a plan to fix govt you just want an end to govt itself coz law of the jungle will take over and you all think you're rambo.

Sorry to sterotype you all but given the amount of glenn beck worshippers on here recently its pretty accurate.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:59 | 3088206 Citxmech
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This ass-hat could've been the author of a "call to action" I was emailed yesterday.  Here's my letter in response:

Dear XXX,

I was extraordinarily disappointed by your recent email action alert regarding a call for increased federal firearm restrictions.  Normally, I both agree with, and actively support your causes, but in this case, I find myself having difficulty just disagreeing with your position – as I found your message offensive as a citizen of these United States.

The first line of the subject email:  “Those who argue that the 2nd Amendment grants unlimited gun ownership rights must also recognize it is a federal constitutional amendment.” left me confused and uncomfortable.  What exactly were you implying?  Is the entire Bill of Rights which includes such important restrictions on government power as our 1st amendment right to free speech, freedom to assemble, and freedom from the establishment of a state-sanctioned religion, the 4th and 5th amendments guaranteeing habeas corpus, protections against unreasonable search and seizure, and due process, as well of those subsequent amendments including the 14th amendment guaranteeing ALL Americans the rights of U.S. citizenship or 19th amendment guaranteeing women the right to vote, of some lessor stature than those rights guaranteed by the original verbiage of the Constitution?  It was my understanding that properly ratified amendments to the Constitution ARE the Constitution and are properly "the law of the land."

As far as your implication that those who actually expect that the Constitution and its amendments, including Bill of Rights, could be invoked by the citizenry to protect us from a zealous over-reaching by the federal government are somehow "illiterate" because of the 2nd amendment’s “well regulated militia” provision, I am again saddened by your apparent lack of historical understanding and misplaced condescension.  Firstly, the United States were never intended to have a standing professional army.  The founders, in their wisdom, understood that standing armies were a path to imperialism and to the potential (if not eventual) subjugation of her citizenry.  Witness what we have become and I think their prescience on that point cannot be denied.

I present to you a few choice words for you to contemplate regarding your espoused belief that forsaking our inherent right to bear arms for individual as well as common defense, in exchange for the promise of increased security, is a wise bargain, that the "militia" was ever contemplated to be anything other than the whole of the common citizenry, or that "changing times" somehow has rendered the portions of the Bill of Rights obsolete:

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."

-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

-- John F. Kennedy  

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."

-- Mahatma Gandhi

If you care to do the research, there are literally hundreds of other quotes which have been put forth by men and women world-wide in support of the right to bear arms who preached peace, and who put their lives on the line to preserve both individual, as well as communal liberty.  You do them all a disservice when calling for unilateral disarmament in the face of evil.

Finally, your comment:  “Outside of those with David Koresh fantasies there is no justifiable reason for private citizens to own such things. For those who think they might need such arsenals to fight off our own government, guess what, if the government really wants to get you nowadays they'll just target you with a drone.” leaves me sickened and questioning the entire basis of your mission as well as your level of conviction regarding resistance against institutional oppression.

If we should give up our rights because the federal government already has the ability (and apparently the will) to illegally target citizens exercising rights which should be guaranteed by the same document purported to legitimize that government, perhaps you would be most effective if you directed your efforts at reestablishing the sanctity of such amendments as the 4th and 5th (as well as the tenants of  posse comitatus) rather than actively aiding the statist agenda of neutering the entire population due to fear of the heinous acts of some tiny minority.  As an American I am both sickened and embarrassed at your apparent cowardice and am reminded of these words often attributed to Benjamin Franklin:  "Those who would give up liberty to gain security will deserve neither, and lose both."

Respectfully,

(Citxmech)

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:31 | 3088642 Colonial Intent
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Are you only now realising that your rights are determined by the state having a monopoly on violence within its own borders?

Do they not teach history in US schools?

The rights of the citizen versus those of the state are an eternal battle not a win or lose do or die struggle, govt is meant to be about order vs chaos and here you are turning it into some good vs evil thing based on impossible absolute philoshophies of anarchy.

no wonder the govts biased in favor of the dems if you repubs dont get involved at the grassroots level and keep using your base as a cash cow for lobbyists and pr media companies.

When did you last go to a town hall or protest anything?

Dont get me wrong my happiness at the dem victory has been tempered by my horror at the fragmenting of the repubs by the tea party, you are putting yourselfs out of politics for a generation, the demographics and social attitudes are against you and yet you still persist in driving the car off the cliff.

States with a powerful single political party tend towards repressive social policies and agressive external ones.

"Each type of govt enacts laws that are in its own interest, a democacy democratic laws, a republic republican laws, a tyranny tyrannical laws and so on and in enacting these laws the rulers make it quite clear that what is 'right' for their subjects is whatever is in the rulers own interest and if anyone deviates from this he is punished as a lawbreaker and 'wrongdoer'"

Pluto.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 21:45 | 3089055 Citxmech
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Actually, the ass-hat I was referring to was Mr. Coyote  sorry for any confusion  my bad.  However, I have no idea why you think I'm some recently born-again patriot.

Just so you know, my activism this year regarding gun rights specifically, in addition to signing-on to numerous petitions, included  successfully encouraging a few family members and friends to purchase their own firearms, and volunteering my time to restore the rights of an individual wrongly denied a CCP license.  Modest to be sure - but I am trying to make a difference.

Oh, and btw, the only time I voted Republican this year was for Ron Paul in our primary.  If Eisenhauer were available to run, I'd probably volunteer for his campaign though, just so you know.

Sat, 12/22/2012 - 08:45 | 3089539 Colonial Intent
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I have no issue with gun ownership, my issue is with the owners who think guns are a toy and most on here talk about their gun like its their todger.

A gun is a tool, nothing more, the idea that owning a gun automatically makes you more patriotic than everyone who doesnt is ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 12/22/2012 - 14:52 | 3089822 Citxmech
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IMHO - whether anyone wants to own a gun is less important than the right that they can own guns if they so choose.  Personally, I do think of it as a civic responsibility - but ymmv.  As I hoped my letter got across, I'm pissed about the govt's current flagrant disregard for the entire Constitution, not just the second amendment.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:32 | 3087618 Central Bankster
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Are you really this obtuse? 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:52 | 3087716 zerotohero
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Culture of fear brought to you by the U.S. Gov't - nothing like having your citizens scared shitless all the time.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:12 | 3087803 Tuco Benedicto ...
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"Who is the bogey man?"

The hijacked U. S. government, of course!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:34 | 3087887 Wile-E-Coyote
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So what are you waiting for then, you have all the guns and ammo, take your country back....................... oh they have guns too... shit!

If only they were all five year olds.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:22 | 3087569 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Any father who does not have a gun to protect his family is either stupid or a coward and probably both!

Tuco

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:53 | 3087717 zerotohero
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now there is some logic you just can't argue with - wtf

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:17 | 3087817 Abiotic Oil
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You're right.  The best course of action to protect your children when confronted with an insane, medicated, violent individual with a gun, is to try to cover them with your own body and hope your meat slows the bullets enough to only kill you, like the pooor woman teacher in CT who sacrficed herself for her students and they all died anyway? - wtf?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:55 | 3087959 akak
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Wile-E-Coyote (naively) stated:

The only answer is to ban guns. no guns no mass shootings simples.

Like the typical unthinking, head-in-the-clouds statist sheep, your gullibility and disingenuousity are proudly on parade here.  But in your ignorance and state-worship, you neglect to realize that illegalization is FAR from the same thing as "banning", much less eliminating.  Your faith in legalism and (unjust) law is touching, but woefully misguided.

Just go to Mexico if you believe that illegalizing guns automatically eliminates them from a society.  Sure, the law-abiding will submit --- and the criminals and sociopaths will just laugh as the sheep are now not just corralled, but hobbled as well.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:08 | 3088241 lakecity55
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Daily Mail, June, 2012

"The UK has today sub-contracted SAS responsibilities to the USMC.

Due to the disarmament of UK Forces in response to the dangers of firearms, US Marines will now earn bounties when force is needed. Most SAS have now left the UK to join the USMC.

Lord HeeHaw, in response to reporters' questions, stated there would be no problems, as if the UK were ever invaded, they would request firearms from the US, as they did before, during WW2 when the UK was also disarmed."

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:46 | 3087416 Monedas
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All we are saying .... is give Piers a chance .... count to 5 then blow the muther fucka away and send his ashes back to England !

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:50 | 3087430 Wile-E-Coyote
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Say what you like sunshine but in the UK there is no guns available, we walk the streets in safety. America is hell.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:57 | 3087461 Abiotic Oil
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Your knife crime is through the roof and they have banned all but the smallest blades.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:16 | 3087533 Wile-E-Coyote
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No we don't, get your facts right.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:26 | 3087592 Abiotic Oil
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Violent crime worse in Britain than in US

Britain has a higher crime rate than any other rich nation except Australia, according to a survey yesterday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html#ixzz2FiDr18PT 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:31 | 3087615 Killtruck
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Huh...some facts. Well, shit, I guess that's the end of that discussion.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:35 | 3087633 Central Bankster
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Logic and facts are kryptonite against fascist gun grabbers. 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:29 | 3087867 Colonial Intent
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Daliy mail is the uk version of fox news dude, it is not reliable.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:10 | 3088253 Abiotic Oil
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Article quotes a study, didn't perform it.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:33 | 3087620 Abiotic Oil
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http://www.britishblades.com/forums/content.php?12-The-Law-FAQ

Q: Can I carry a lock knife (or a fixed blade knife) in a public place just because I feel like it?

A: No, it is ILLEGAL to carry a lock knife in a public place without a good reason.

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:52 | 3087676 HelluvaEngineer
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Q: Can I carry a knife because I am constantly assaulted by "Droogs"?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:57 | 3087463 Tsar Pointless
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Yes. Yes, it is. But it's the "Greatest country in the world"TM, so at least we have that going for us.

Let's blame music, and Hollywood, and video games for our violent society, but by no means should we even consider looking at the man in the mirror and imposing blame upon him.

No. We're Amerikkkans. We never take the blame for everything.

It's the fault of something/somebody else all of the time.

We're nothing but a society run by and filled with four-year-old children.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:02 | 3087469 hedgeless_horseman
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in the UK there is no guns available, we walk the streets in safety.

 

This kind of safety, or a different kind?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:04 | 3087488 Temporalist
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I was going to share the same HH.  The police were overrun in many cases during the riots too.  People couldn't leave their homes.  There is no way in hell most citizens should be held hostage given the choice to defend themselves (which they don't have as they can only carry cricket bats).

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:45 | 3087682 trav777
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They didn't show the face of those riots on US TV.  RT did.  It was rather striking, kinda looked just like a riot here.

The causes of crime are the same pretty much the world over.  It's a dark secret hiding in plain sight.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:12 | 3087799 catacl1sm
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BOOM! Headshot, HH.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:45 | 3088143 Colonial Intent
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Lame, expected more than a cherry picked photo and a Wiki reference, especially from a ZH contributor.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:01 | 3088213 lakecity55
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Go suck your Lord and Master, Rothschild.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:05 | 3087481 Temporalist
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UK is violent crime capital of Europe


The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-viole...

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:22 | 3087567 Wile-E-Coyote
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How many mass shootings have we had this year 0.0

How many innocent school children have we had massacred in their classrooms 0.0

Using everyday crime stats to justify your argument is just plain lame.

How many mass shooting have there been in the US this year.......................answers on a abacus.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:34 | 3087632 Killtruck
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"Using everyday crime stats to justify your argument is just plain lame."

You sir, are an illogical douchebag. A soppy wet bag, devoid of logic and dripping with used douche spilling over the brim.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:45 | 3087666 akak
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Sir, I take outraged umbrage at your characterization of Wile-E-Coyote as a "douchbag"!

A douchbag at least serves a useful purpose.

 

PS:  Why is almost every Brit in this forum an arrogant and statist dickweed?  Really, why?  Is it all the cameras spying on them that drives them into raging madness?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:56 | 3087734 zerotohero
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same reason most Amerikans are arrogant statist dickweeds - its human nature these days

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:58 | 3087743 Wile-E-Coyote
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You don't answer the question though do you?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:16 | 3087811 Buckaroo Banzai
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Man there is nothing funnier than a stupid English cunt! When I go to England, I love to piss on the English. I just tell them it's raining and then they smile and say, "right, then! Cheerio!"

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:20 | 3087833 zerotohero
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Man there is nothing funnier than a stupid Amerikan cunt! When I go to the States.....oh shit who am I kidding I would never fucking go to the land of shit.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:28 | 3087866 lakecity55
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Current english citizen serfs are the biggest pussies I have ever seen.

You guys have no balls, no honor, no common sense, and are the most arrogant cunts I have ever seen.

Oh, and Fuck You!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:34 | 3087888 zerotohero
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Honey boo boo is that you?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:46 | 3087935 Colonial Intent
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Sir*,

May I be the first to congratulate you on your masterly use of the english language, your deployment of our mother tongue is indeed a worthy rival to the bard himself, your cunning use of the vernecular to imply disrepute on our culture is indicative of the highest level of anti-disestablishmentarianism i have seen in all my born days, why you may indeed be the most articulate wordsmith in all of the colonies.

 

*(Doffs cap)

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:39 | 3087908 Wile-E-Coyote
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I didn't realise so many children had access to ZH, dad should remember to log out.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:19 | 3087830 Colonial Intent
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Probably because we have developed a culture that is less violent than yours, one that is more racially and religiously integrated than yours, our culture also has place a high value on personal motives other than greed and fear.

Personally i think gun culture and poverty are a bigger cause of USA gun crime than race.

We also tend to have a sense of identity with the state in that we have invested time/energy into it and try to hold it accountable whenever possible, also being on an island helps with the us/them thing.

We built an empire based on force of arms over 200 years and then sold it to america to pay them for their belated assistance in WW2.

Properly crafted an alloy is stronger.

Just sayin

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:25 | 3088251 hedgeless_horseman
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...a culture that is less violent than yours, one that is more racially and religiously integrated than yours

You may be right, Mohammed, but I know a few Catholics from over in Ireland that would tend to disagree with you. 

England, where the food is ugly...

...and the women are in bad taste.

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 18:48 | 3088590 Colonial Intent
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Sorry HH cant take you seriously while you quote the daily mail, its seen as a joke in the UK.

A quick guide to the UK papers and their audience.

The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country;
The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country
The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country;
The Financial Times is read by people who own the country;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by socialists.
The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
The Sun Their readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.

 

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:37 | 3087638 Temporalist
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You said "we walk the streets in safety" and I demonstrated you to be wrong wheter you like it or not, know it or not or are lying and being disingenuous.

The UK has a violent society WITHOUT the guns.  And it isn't "everyday" crime statistics it's VIOLENT crime statistics.

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:51 | 3087715 Wile-E-Coyote
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Would you like to compare US crime stats with UK ones, no I didn't think so.

The US has the biggest prison population in the world. You can't win this argument.

I was born in London and yes there are areas you would steer clear of day and night (Brixton), but that is the same in any country anywhere in the world. I have never seen anyone brandishing a gun in the UK. NEVER. Can you say the same about the US?

The point of my argument is this, if you ever want to stop these shootings you need some sort of gun control, giving everyone a gun is just nuts.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:15 | 3087769 akak
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And how many women in gun-controlled societies, just as one example, might be and are raped by men much physically stronger than they without the force equalizer of a handgun or other firearm?  You statists love to jump to kneejerk conclusions that seem obvious without ever considering the broader ramifications of your coercive decrees.

No government can protect its citizens from every possible act of evil, nor should they try, or else them merely end up being dystopian and totalitarian nightmare societies.  Case in point being the most Orwellian, surveillance-happy society on earth, the cowed population of the UK.

The book 1984 was supposed to have been written as a warning about the danger of all-intrusive government, you know --- not as the blueprint for the Big Brother society that you Brits made of it instead.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:16 | 3087812 Wile-E-Coyote
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Lol.......... Alex Jones is that you?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:35 | 3087889 Abiotic Oil
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Wile, you and Piers Morgan should hook up for some man love!

I just love these Brits who need to tell us how to do things.  After we kicked your ass twice and then bled for your asses in WWII and we get this superiority complex out of you.

Stay in the UK and stay out of our business, if our Constitutional rights bother you so much.

Really at the end of the day one could say the Brits are responsible for all the guns as it was your tyranny that prompted the founders to enumerate the right in the Constitution.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:20 | 3087834 Colonial Intent
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Rather than teach women how to use guns we teach men not to rape.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:59 | 3088364 hedgeless_horseman
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...we teach men not to rape

You must have enjoyed, A Clockwork Orange

 

 

Alex: You needn't take it any further, sir. You've proved to me that all this ultraviolence and killing is wrong, wrong, and terribly wrong. I've learned me lesson, sir. I've seen now what I've never seen before. I'm cured! Praise god!

 

 Dr. Brodsky: You're not cured yet, boy.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 18:51 | 3088567 Colonial Intent
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I'd still argue it was the teaching technique that failed not the message itself.

To me that was the point of the film.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:27 | 3087860 Wile-E-Coyote
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Lol ............... We don't have TSA, FEMA camps, irradiation scanners at airports, road blocks with armed police and army, no fly lists, drones over our own country. You been drinking the Kool-Aid mate.

Oh and the biggest bonus of all we are not frightened of our own shadow.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:33 | 3087877 akak
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Oh and the biggest bonus of all we are not frightened of our own shadow.

Then why are there far more surveillance cameras in London than there are inhabitants, for example?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:17 | 3087819 Buckaroo Banzai
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At least we put our criminals in jail. In merrie olde England, they run free in the streets!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:20 | 3087839 zerotohero
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You also put plenty of innocent people in jail

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:09 | 3087788 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Okay Wile.  You are on the globalist payroll and we all know it.  Please move to North Korea and let us know how it works out for you!?  Ha!  Ha!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:24 | 3087855 lakecity55
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Just because your government has slacked off killing its own people for the time being does not mean ours has.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:04 | 3087491 Monedas
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I didn't know there were coyotes in the UK .... here we have a bounty on them !

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:27 | 3087591 Wile-E-Coyote
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Lol... do you see the irony of your answer....No.

I'll explain, you don't like the argument so you propose violence, really smart.

Your avatar, I thought you might be giving that dog a cuddle buy you are really strangling it aren't you.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:44 | 3087679 Central Bankster
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Anyone have a .gif of a poo flinging monkey? 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:43 | 3087675 trav777
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ROTFL, sure you do...hahahahaha

Like Tottenham, huh?  UK is the violent crime capital of Europe and has a worse violent crime rate than the USA.

You limeys are a bunch of spineless wankers...we literally LAUGH at you.  You are despised by your own women because you are useless wankers.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:55 | 3087727 Wile-E-Coyote
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Lol that was good, time you were in bed; school tomorrow, you know the special school.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:12 | 3087796 zerotohero
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Hey trav666 - satan called he said your doing a swell job

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 20:08 | 3088821 Parrotile
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As your "Military Superheroes" found out when I was doing a locum in Queen Alexandra Hospital, Portsmouth, when we had a US Carrier visit.

US Marines et al come ashore for the booze.

US Marines et al decide to beat up the "uselewss wankers" (as you describe them) locals.

US Marines et al end up in our Casualty department - "no idea what hit them". . . . . .

Briitain IS a violent country BECAUSE of a history of invasion and oppression. This breeds violence and a degree of toughness unmatched anywhere in the US of A.

The Brits don't need firearms - they have an excellent imagination when it comes to improvised weapons of violence. Working for just a few short months in Portsmouth gave me quite the lifetime's worth of "improvised weapons trauma" exposure. We had at least one almost successful attempted murder with an HB Pencil, for God's sake!

And Portsmouth isn't that bad a City - OK it does have the Naval Base (thank you RN for employing me for a further two years and letting me gain all that very interesting education on all kinds of useful survival - related things . . . . .); places with a far worse reputation for violence include Bristol (riots, remember), Liverpool, Glasgow, most of Wales Metropolitan cities, most of the West Midlands . . . .

Nice place, interesting people, interesting history, but pacifist? You MUST be kidding!!

 

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:58 | 3088803 Laddie
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British fugitive shoots dead two unarmed policewomen
By Michael Holden
Tuesday September 18, 2012

LONDON (Reuters) - One of Britain's most wanted fugitives killed two unarmed policewomen on Tuesday in a gun and grenade ambush, police said, killings which are likely to reignite a long-running debate over whether British officers should carry guns.

Police constables Fiona Bone, 32, and Nicola Hughes, 23, were gunned down in a hail of bullets after responding to a hoax call about a burglary in the northern English city of Manchester.

Despite shock over the murders, described by Prime Minister David Cameron as "despicable", senior police officers said they were determined that the British force would remain one of few in the world which is not routinely armed.

Police said the two constables, one of whom was about to be married, had been deliberately lured into a trap by Dale Cregan, 29, a suspect in another double killing in the city. Cregan handed himself into a local police station after the shooting.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:53 | 3087449 cynicalskeptic
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Look at it asp art of the economic stimulus package.... people buying guns while they can and people buying bulletproof backpacks to protect themselves from the people with guns.....    

 

Nonetheless it seems like a Darwinian 'hunter or hunted' choice to me.....

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 13:56 | 3087460 ptoemmes
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Flash-bang grenades...every kid should have one.  Or maybe just store them around the school.

Armed mini drones flying the hallways.

Tryin to be creative.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:00 | 3087471 Monedas
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Rule # 1.  If you ever beat anyone at chess or anything .... and they ask for a rematch .... always say no .... you have nothing to gain !    Rule # 2.  If you ever have a funny post and get more than 5 green arrows .... don't post again for two days !

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:46 | 3087688 trav777
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I just beat them again...and again.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:04 | 3087483 falak pema
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the greatest nation on earth with the biggest prison population on earth, with the greatest crime rate on earth, which has just established a law abolishing habeaus corpus in some situations, now proposes to convert its primary schools into a nuclear bunker and every child into a pioneer running through hostile indian country.

Progression or regression; who is the enemy and who is the friend? 

Ask the NRA : the monsters and predators are in our schools. And to protect the children from them we make the US into Talibanistan!

Well done USA, after the reinforced packs, when do you put women and children into walking reinforced tents, like moslem women in tribal lands? 

What happened to common sense and separating law enforcement from peaceful services such as being a school teacher?

Soldier-monk is the worst solution; it creates inbred "we know whats good for you" militia culture. A teacher who is supposed to help your mind grow will now impose the opposite mind set. 

Just read history on that. 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:48 | 3087695 trav777
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huh?  Do you people who talk this nonsense ever look at our crime stats?

85% of it is by 2 groups of people, with 55%ish by ONE group.  These dark secrets are hiding in plain sight.  How many times do I have to tell you this?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:50 | 3087703 Central Bankster
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Even though these backpacks are a stupid idea in my opinion, I respect that others should have the freedom to decide how defend themselves as they best deem fit. This goes for other means of protection as well. I know this concept freedom and personal responsibility is difficult for you fascists. 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:07 | 3087502 spekulatn
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There's a sucker born every  second.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:06 | 3087503 cranky-old-geezer
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Doesn't CT have some of the strictest gun laws?

And this happened in CT?

Congress, bankers, etc ignore laws every day, but psychopaths will obey them?

This is one more reason to keep your kids out of public school.  Home-shcool 'em till 9th grade.

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:53 | 3087719 Central Bankster
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The irony for the gun grabbers is the complete ineffectiveness of their law creation doesn't deter their sense of power grabbing. They are the true psychopaths. 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:37 | 3088106 FoeHammer
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Don't forget the legions of cops and military members who "serve and protect"...special interests...

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:09 | 3087506 TSA gropee
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There was a time not so long ago when human life had intrinsic value, and kids were off limits so to speak. Fast forward to today and we have a new equation. SSRI drugs + anxiety ridden gamers killing in realistic settings + shows like walking dead where axes to the heads of woman and children is the norm and where the sum of all this equates to a society gone off the rails.

I say we need to take a closer look at who we're all giving these SSRI's to and what behaviors they are actually prone to bring to the surface... Just MHO.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:07 | 3087774 lakecity55
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Individual human life has NO value under the O-Phone Dictatorship of the Plutocrats!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:10 | 3087510 roadhazard
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"bulletproof backpacks" = crazy town in America. JHC on a stick, talk about feeding the frenzy. Those invisibility cloaks can't come soon enough...

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:28 | 3087516 rwe2late
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Gun Control and Government.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Many believe Constitutional rights have already been infringed in many areas:
undeclared warfare, government secrecy, and “Homeland“ police laws.
freedom of speech, or of the press;
the right of the people peaceably to assemble
against unreasonable searches and seizures
cruel and unusual punishments inflicted
Due process
Speedy trial
Oversight of war powers by the People, through Congress.
Regulation of finance by Congress.
Corporations, no longer being limited legal constructs of the state, but lately invested with inviolable “citizen rights” are now able to dominate the legislative process.

There are those who argue that the idea of an armed citizenry is quaint, no longer applicable, primarily because so many other concessions have been made to a now heavily militarized police state, that an armed citizenry no longer can offer any restraint. Further, a specious argument is made that the 2nd amendment has not prevented the erosion of the others. But that is no more than to say none of the amendments have been able to thwart their own erosions, or the erosions to the others; and thus implicitly to suggest that no opposition is worthwhile or arguably practical.

Gun Control, Racism, and Genocide
Gun control has its origins in “Jim Crow” laws designed to control and render minorities defenseless.
Current “war on drugs” not only takes away voting rights of “drug felons”, but also their rights of self-protection (by guns and other weapons).

Deter lynchings and genocidal mobs. Many Jewish organizations support that view

Also:
“The New Jim Crow” - written by Michelle Alexander
“Slavery by Another Name” - written by Douglas A. Blackmon

Gun Control and Home Defense Against Crime
Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]

The Empire’s Selective War on Violence
Domestic “Gun control” does not address what seems to be a connection with psychotropic medications and addictive violent gaming which fuels a fantasy world which is sometimes acted out.
Nor is the domestic violence fueled by the “war on drugs” and the crime-generating prison system addressed.
Nor is the exponentially greater violence perpetrated abroad by the US government addressed.
Nor is the exponentially greater violence perpetrated by US supplied weapons abroad to sheikhdoms, despots, and apartheid regimes.
Further restrictions on gun ownership will not abate the concerns about home invasions and government malevolence. Most likely, it would only result in an expanded black market for guns and an expanded police state bureaucracy with more powers, more intrusions, and more corruption.

Whatever any rational debate may be, it is now eclipsed by the politicized debate. According to most of the media, many websites, and many posted comments, the ONLY way to frame the problem is how to “protect the children” from “red-state NRA gun nut terrorists”.

 

 

 

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html 

 

 

http://www.davekopel.com/2a/lawrev/lethal.htm 

 

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/print/461541

 

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:12 | 3087519 Green Horse
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Potential scenarios are so numerous that this has a 1 in (?) chance of actually working, and then yes, only against lower calibers. Hell, I've read accounts where even .22LR was able to fracture a femur.

Although, in light of recent events, I wonder if some sort of proper "take cover" drills (albeit admittedly still insufficient) that could be worked subtlely/invisibly into PE class (those that still have PE class).

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:13 | 3087522 Salon
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Bulletproofme is where i buy all my stuff.

Great prices on used body armor. Look at the tests on 20 year old kevlar. I will wear it. The german surplus was cheap.

Get a kevlar helmet too. With a clear face cover designed to accommodate a gas mask.

You dont want to be all barricaded up and get taken out with simple tear gas. How embarrassing!!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:00 | 3087538 rustymason
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The real purpose of the MSM is to disseminate propaganda to the sheeple. That's why all of the MSM is radically liberal and loses millions every year yet stays in business.  It's all lies, all of it.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:19 | 3087544 Opinionated Ass
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What about a backpack model that protects against government aggression?

 

Maybe a kevlar chastity belt against Texas Ranger cavity searches?

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:04 | 3087762 lakecity55
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No, Full Body Bulletproof Suits!

Next year, Transvestites Searching Asses agents everywhere, one stationed outside each residence, to cavity search and feel you up if you leave your house.

All sex criminals released and join the tsa.

Shoot two or three citizens every day, chosen at random, to quell crime!

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:22 | 3087552 UnRealized Reality
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All this shows us is ONE absolute truth, that Gov't can not protect you, no matter what they say or try to project.

 

I wouldn't knot the back pack, if it saves one life it is well worth it.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:21 | 3087561 zerotohero
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that is one sick culture Americans have created - took hard work and time but they got what they wanted I guess.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:35 | 3087636 Green Horse
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Oh for pete's sake, I won't defend it, but let's not pretend that the US was the first either, shall we? There are a lot of good people in the US who are getting stomped on, but one day- well, all history's a wheel, isn't it?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:36 | 3087643 cougar_w
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To quote James Kunstler: We built a landscape of scary places, and became a nation of scary people.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:47 | 3087694 Green Horse
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Urban planning and architecture have a meaninful input for all of this? I get the metaphorical part of it and all, but that's stretching things. Not trying to be a douche, but many other things are at play here, not all spawned from us not living in villages anymore. Don't get me wrong, "little r" republicanism, small towns and local government are all A-OK with me and may be back before some people might think.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:28 | 3087597 Bicycle Repairman
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You can't control everything.  At some point, you must accept.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:41 | 3087657 Billy Shears
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Best part is these folks are not just content with disarming themselves in their zeal for a violence free utopia but insist that you join them in their folly. It is not enough that they would send their children to a school without armed personnel but that you must also submit to their will, there is NO middle ground with these fanatics. If your community decides that armed personnel are the best deterrent against atrocities like Newtown they would prohibit you from doing so, because a gun "free" society is their only goal...but this, of course, is purely delusional. Surely, reasonable people can agree to disagree and go their seperate and individual ways because no one is demanding they protect their children with armed personnel just that others, who disagree with their position, retain the right to protect their kids as they see fit. I'll send my kids to school with the armed guards, thanks, and quiet frankly I don't give a damn where you send yours! Good luck to you.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:58 | 3087726 Monedas
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I'd like to see Wiley-E-Coyote falling away in my rear view mirror .... like fresh road kill !

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:03 | 3087761 Wile-E-Coyote
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Haa haaa that dog in your arms must dead by now. I notice something about your posts death and violence. I bet you have guns aswell.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:34 | 3087883 Monedas
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I live in gun free Mexico .... it's violence free .... just like the UK !  

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:39 | 3087907 Colonial Intent
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Why would an israeli shrill live in mexico?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 14:55 | 3087729 Colonial Intent
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Why did the NRA ask O'bama to put an armed govt employee in every school?

Are they in on the gun law shakedown thing?

I don't understand.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:04 | 3087760 Tuco Benedicto ...
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The NRA unlike da Bears are not "who you thought they were"!  Larry Pratt and Gun Owners of America are more legit.

Tuco

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:02 | 3087758 kito
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this gun control craze reminds me of the breast cancer issue..............big emotional issue, lots of pink ribbons, millions of dollars pissed away..... but ive yet to hear even one fundraising event discuss the idea of what potentially causes the cancer....not one time have i heard an event spokesperson state that womens bodies have been saturated with meat pumped with hormones, plastics, house cleaners, toxic cosmetics, etc...........so now we have gun control, everybody up in "arms" over gun control....big emotional issue.....yet not one of these blowhard media outlets has discussed what wayne lapierre or tyler has mentioned.......CAUSES OF THESE VIOLENT OUTBURSTS......UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT ARE HARDER TO TACKLE...THE SOCIAL FABRIC FRAYING........................SO JUST SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND RALLY A CAUSE....ANY CAUSE.....EXCEPT THE TRUTH............

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:16 | 3087809 Monedas
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Monedas to Kito:  Wayne LaPier (sp?) and Larry Pratt are my heroes !  If we ever get armed school guards .... I hope they have NRA and Gun Owners of America logos all over them .... and hash mark chevrons on the sleeves for every pervert taken down ?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:19 | 3088043 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Well said Kito!  Bi sphenol A, an estrogen mimicker, contributes to breast cancer as well.  But, not a peep about that!

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:17 | 3087781 Monedas
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Cavity Search:  Opening someone's bowels with a shotgun blast and searching the resultant cavity for drugs smuggled in condoms !

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:07 | 3087782 10mm
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Ill say it once if not a thousand times.We as a nation are divided.Rural folk are not commiting these crimes,it's large populated areas,disfunctional populated areas causing these problems.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 15:21 | 3087840 Buckaroo Banzai
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Well, that and MK-ULTRA mind-controlled manchurian candidates.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:05 | 3087997 Wile-E-Coyote
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You brave men on here hiding behind your metal. You proport to need weapons to protect yourselves from the US government. Well here is a challenge, you are armed to the teeth, ammo up the ass, dressed in green with night vision. How about taking your hands off your peckers and going out and taking your country back........................ What was that, it has gone very quiet, do I hear a bit of mumbling and shuffling , the big football game is on this weekend and then there is stars in their eyes.....lol.

 

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 16:58 | 3088197 Colonial Intent
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America, where its more manly to shout abuse from the sidelines than it is to get hurt playing the game.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:15 | 3088269 First There Is ...
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And just what is manly about you Brits? Very little as far as I can tell, and I can assure you, we're not alone in that assessment. This juvenile chest thumping in light of a horrific tragedy is something we've come to expect from you assholes. Coming in here to tout your cultural superiority in light of the acts of a deeply disturbed, likely drugged up, loser is deplorable, but again, who's surprised? And your haughty condescension will endure until the next group of 10 angry Muslims holds your entire country hostage, openly threatening to kill you hyper-effeminate men and ghastly women. You'll look completely ridiculous as usual but lecture the US about our bellicosity while completely ignoring your own complicity in war crimes. I'm particularly looking forward to you dipshits picking another fight with Argentina wherein Latin America collectively kicks the shit out of you, sealing your fate as a second rate European power, and baby, that ain't saying much.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 18:39 | 3088562 Colonial Intent
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My country isnt the one that has had another 50 people killed by guns since that shooting one week ago.

Tell me im a slave, a subject of a monarch you kicked out of your country years ago but please dont try and tell me my country is anywhere near as dangerous a place to live as the USA.

It simply isnt true, cherry picking anecdotes dont cut it in english debate.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:56 | 3088798 Iconoclast
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Chicago has a similar population to London, circa 7 ml. Homicide in Chicago this year to date circa 520. London 137. Tbh that's not as 'bad' as I thought. But it's smaller cities where it gets worse.

Detroit has a population size similar to Liverpool/merseyside 780k and has 354, merseyside was less than twenty.

The USA has seen a real spike in homicide over the past year, 52% higher in Chicago.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 17:34 | 3088318 First There Is ...
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The brave men of the UK, clad in trainers, their crooked, yellow teeth glinting in the, er - wait, do you see the sun over there? Anyway, there's a football game this weekend and hooliganism to be had by all. Their pencil thin arms flexing for battle with the equally ridiculous, effeminate hooligans in red trainers. But team blue trainers has a secret weapon. They're completely fucking shit faced drunk and coked up. You see, they're real men. And at the conclusion of hostilities, after the day is won, they'll pull their peckers out of their trainers in hopes of sticking them in a woman - any woman. But alas, they're simply too inebriated to get it up, and even if they could, there isn't an enticing woman to be found in the whole of the UK. Lucky bastards, those Brits!! lol

Sat, 12/22/2012 - 05:27 | 3089473 Parrotile
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Depends if you prefer your wimmin to be real or plastic . . . . .

Fake boobs, fake teeth, botulinum toxin, liposuction, liposculpture, everything lifted /tucked / fixed. = the triumph of "appearance" and "image" over substance. That seems to be "The American Way" doesn't it?

On the subject of War Crimes - remember your (US) Government was very happy to let quite a few Japs "off the hook" in return for their bioweapon expertise - gained via experimentation on POWs

And please don't lecture the rest of the English-speaking World (They are English speaking for a very good reason - look it up), on "War Crimes" when YOUR Country was the ONLY ONE to used Nuclear Weapoins against civilians.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 18:12 | 3088464 Contrary Casanova
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I have an idea how about the kids carry books in there back packs. One book would do the job. Who needs books?

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:28 | 3088706 Laddie
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The NRA made sense today, but as LaPierre was about to make his point CNN went to a commerical, what they did air showed a woman screaming REPEATEDLY that the NRA and its members had "BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS" CNN kept that on but not the suggestion by LaPierre: STATION ARMED POLICE IN SCHOOLS.

 

Simple but very practical.

http://www.nrahq.org/

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:34 | 3088719 Laddie
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The English like to lecture US on OUR rights, well they have their twins over the Pacific telling us the same:

The Communist Chinese government, via its state-run media front Xinhua, has called for Americans to be disarmed, arguing that the Sandy Hook school massacre demands “no delay for U.S. gun control.”

Xinhua is virtually the press agency for the Communist Chinese government. The organization, “is subordinate to the State Council and reports to the Communist Party of China’s Propaganda and Public Information Departments.”

In other words, Xinhua represents the pinnacle of Chinese state-run media. Whatever is printed in its editorial pages represents the opinion of the ruling Communist Party leaders.

The article calls on Obama to exploit the tragedy to push his gun control agenda, adding that his lame duck situation represents “the best position to promote it,” while blaming the National Rifle Association for curtailing previous attempts to regulate firearms in the United States.

Noting that after previous mass shootings efforts to impose gun control measures “disappointingly always fail,” the editorial expresses the desire that the “gunman’s cruelty and evil may provide a strong momentum and broader public support for the restart of gun control efforts.”

The article adds that Barack Obama should begin “to make preparation for a protracted war,” with a massive political cost if he wants to eviscerate the second amendment.

As Brandon Darby points out, “The current Chinese government, the communist People’s Republic of China, was established in a revolution led by Mao Zedong, who killed an estimated 40-70 million people with starvation, executions, and re-education camps.”

Communist Chinese Government Wants to Help Obama Take Away American Guns
http://www.youtube.com/v/ykZGhX47HCE

Indeed, it was Mao himself who said “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 19:42 | 3088741 Iconoclast
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And what do you say to little junior on his way to school, with his packed lunch, how do you teach him to use this back pack, when and why? This is so fucked up on so many levels.

Fri, 12/21/2012 - 20:13 | 3088832 Random
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So much drivel in these comments that i couldn't let myself read all of them, although i made it to half page down...

Are you guys so fucking blinded by your talk about what a fucking backpack can and can't do and what kind of bullet/gun does the most/least damage and how to pay for security guards and have teachers/kids with guns, that you fail to see this spree of "shootings" for what they really are - chose one that is closest to your heart: fake events/psy ops/conditioning/actors/agenda pushing/scaring the flock/fucking with our collective minds?!!!

With all due respect, wake the fuck up, this is all made up, for reference see the MSM clips with a critical eye and notice how relaxed and sometimes even smiley faced these "scared children", "terrified parents" and "law enforcement/emergency response personnel" are. Once you see it just check the dudes in the background or, when a group of folks is interviewed at the "crime scene", check the ones that are not talking that very moment and notice their expressions.

For fuck sake, there is considerably more tension during a "routine" traffic stop vs. these "massacres".

Btw, have you noticed how clean, tidy and orderly these massacres are?

Last evenings i realized something about these events, mainly their weakest link, their undoing if you will: Facebook (oh sweet irony). Let me elaborate on this: each participant (victim, parent, child, shooter, neighbor etc) has to have a Facebook profile, on one hand is inconceivable that someone in the US doesn't have one and on the other side such a profile "legitimizes" and validates their existence. But, you just can't create blank/bare bone profiles as it will stink to high heaven and not make any sense , so...you have to add "friends", likes, links and so forth, to create the illusion of "real", but all of it has to be fake, to avoid involving real people that can fuck up (say dumb things, forget the script and expose everything). But, as you make these "follow up" fake profiles, you run into the same problems, these pages need to be populated with other fake content and fake profiles, leading to insurmountable (you start with 1 profile and soon enough you need to create 1000s) issues of logistics, control and consistency. Point in case: the RIP Facebook for one of the teachers, made 4-5 days before the shootings and the "hero teacher" profile that was made 1 DAY AFTER THE SHOOTING, presumably whilst still in shock after a terrifying FUCKING MASSACRE(lol, as there is any other kind).

I rest my case.

Sat, 12/22/2012 - 01:09 | 3089327 StychoKiller
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Parents, time to remove yer children from these brainwashing facilities, especially if Lord-knows-who is gonna use them for target practice!

 

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