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Gun-Control Today; Fat-Control Tomorrow?
Leaving the highly sensitive topic of "gun-control" aside for the time being, one can't help but wonder if it isn't time that the US government, seemingly hell-bent on regulating virtually everything in its quest to prove (to itself?) that America's population can no longer be trusted with making any responsible decisions on it own (and in the process becoming even bigger), shouldn't be more focused on "fat-control" instead. Why? Because while guns may or may not kill people, the bottom line is that of the 32K or so death attributed to firearms, roughly 20K, or two thirds were suicides, meaning firearm-based homicides were 11,015 in 2010. Putting this number in perspective, every year some 935,000 Americans suffer a heart attack, and 600,000 people die from some form heart disease: 1 in every 4 deaths. Net result to society: the cost of coronary heart disease borne by everyone is $108.9 billion each year. And of all proximal factors contributing to heart disease, obesity and overweight is the main one. But of course one can't make a media spectacle out of 600,000 hospital wards where people quietly pass away, in many cases due to a lifetime of ill decisions relating primarily to food consumption. In fact, some estimate that obesity now accounts for one fifth of the total US health-care bill (the part of the budget which no amount of tax increase can offset). Which is why if the topic of gun-control has managed to promptly tear the country into two (or three, or more), just wait until fat-control (far more than the recent tepid overtures into this field such as Bloomberg's NYC sugary soda ban) rears its ugly head and sends the already polarized (and weaponized) US society into a state of agitated hyperflux.
Some useful observations on this topic from The Economist:
IN 1937 George Orwell suggested that “changes of diet” might be more important than “changes of dynasty or even of religion”. Now he is being proved right in a way he might not have expected. Having spent millennia worrying about not having enough food, mankind’s main concern is now eating too much (see our special report on obesity).
The story of human health in the past few decades is a broadly encouraging one. Life expectancy has increased—globally, by 12 years for women and 11 years for men from 1970 to 2010. But greater longevity means that people spend more years chronically ill (see article). Obesity makes things worse by raising the risk of diabetes, heart disease, strokes and some cancers. In much of the world, being too fat is now the single largest driver of sickness.
In 2008 obesity rates were nearly double those of 1980. One in three adults was overweight, with a body-mass index (BMI) of 25 or more (at least 77kg for a man 175cm tall); 12% were obese, with a BMI of at least 30. In America, ever the world leader, about two-thirds of adults were overweight in 2008. But Britain lumbered close behind, with six in ten too fat. The problem is not confined to rich countries. Thanks to economic growth, people around the world are eating more food. Workers burn fewer calories at their desks than in the fields. Even in China, one in four adults was too fat in 2008. In Brazil more than half were. Obesity rates in Mexico, Venezuela and South Africa matched those of America. The Pacific islands and Gulf states are home to some of the world’s fattest people.
For those (like this newspaper) who believe that the state should generally keep its nose out of people’s private affairs, obesity presents a quandary. “A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits,” Orwell pointed out; “an unemployed man doesn’t…You want to eat something a little bit tasty.” If people get great pleasure from eating more than is good for them, should they not be allowed to indulge themselves? After all, individuals bear the bulk of the costs of obesity, quite literally. They suffer at work, too: their wages are often lower and, in America, some employers also make fat workers pay more for health insurance.
Yet in most countries the state covers some or most of the costs of health care, so fat people raise costs for everyone. In America, for instance, a recent paper estimated that obesity was responsible for a fifth of the total health-care bill, of which nearly half is paid by the federal government. And there are broader social costs. The Pentagon says that obesity is shrinking its pool of soldiers. Obesity lowers labour productivity. And state intervention is justified where it saves people from great harm at little cost to themselves. Only zealots see seat-belt laws as an affront to personal liberty. Anti-smoking policies, controversial at first, are generally viewed as a success.
So which is it: state intervention? Or, as the Economist correctly asserts for once: individual liberties where people have no choice but to experience the consequences of one or more of their own wrong decisions? But what happens when the entire state is already broke from pre-funding generations of precisely these bad decisions, and there is nothing left in the state's piggy bank for those who wish to behave prudently and sensibly? The Economist has some further thoughts:
In the absence of a single big solution to obesity, the state must try many small measures. Governments, some of which already intervene a lot in the first few months of people’s lives, should ensure that parents are warned of the dangers of overfeeding their babies. Schools should serve nutritious lunches, teach children how to eat healthily and give them time to run around. Urban planners should make streets and pavements friendlier to cyclists and pedestrians. Taxing sugary fizzy drinks—which unlike fatty foods have no nutritional value—and limiting the size of the containers in which they can be sold may work. Philadelphia and New York, for example, have implemented a range of such policies, and have seen child-obesity rates dip ever so slightly.
There is a limit, however, to what the state can or should do. In the end, the responsibility and power to change lie primarily with individuals. Whether people go on eating till they pop, or whether they opt for the healthier, slimmer life, will have a bigger effect on the future of the species than most of the weighty decisions that governments make.
Just like in the sensitive issue of gun-control, there is no easy, or definitive answer when it comes to the world's most overweight nation. Perhaps, however, the best clue to what should happen comes from the WSJ's interview with the 107 year old Irving Khan, one of Wall Street's oldest investors and Ben Graham's research assistant, who made the following remark on unwholesome lifestyles: "Millions of people die every year of something they could cure themselves: lack of wisdom and lack of ability to control their impulses."
And that's really it. Sadly, the government, in its encroaching desire to become the world's nanny state par excellence, already believes it can offset everything else, including human stupidity and impulse control. That it can't will become very apparent in time, but only when everyone finally wakes up from the 150 year old dream that started with Bismarck's 'Welfare State' utopia, and sadly ends in bloodshed. With or without gun control.
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Yeah, those guys, what did they know. OMG what are kids being taught in schools now days anyways?
someone give dexter the pulitzer - he's obviously brilliant
why thank you sir, may I have another
Ask and you receive. +1
zero to hero debt slave, for monarchists, despots, corporatists, and tribalists. You silly boy.Your ignorance kills more than you claim to defend with your failed politics.
Be grateful that you can write here now, and that is due to the Constitution and the people who died for the belief in community; all for one, one for all.
You ungrateful, debt slave.
If ZH is shut down, that is your fault, debt slave boy, for the failed politics your sort promote.
Let's see: Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, Henry, Paine, Revere, Madison, Jay....
vs... Bush, Reid, Clinton, Obama, Pelosi, Brownback, Schumer, Romney, Biden, Waters, Holder etc...
I'll put my money on the intellect of the former vs the latter all day everyday and twice on Sunday.
Question is, why DOE you not put any stock in the fouding fathers. People do change and hopefully evolve but the example doesn't necessarily exhibit evolution. People change but the notion of liberty and freedom do not. Liberty will always be liberty and freedom will always be freedom. Those definitions and ideas have been around since the Ancient Greeks. Look how they "evolved" intellectually. Looks like we are on that same evolutionary path from and intellectual standpoint. More's the pity.
Dear Mr Onanist,
The constitution is very similar to the koran.
The Koran is the infallible word of god and the constitution is the infallible word of man.
Thats why its defended with such vigour.
Name one of these mass murderers that was an NRA member?.......yeah, thought so.
Mcveigh?
Gummbimint paid for an trained... MK Ultra
How do you ask a question, create a little white space then retort as if no one could answer you and then you gave your own retor?. Do you expect responses to questions you write as if you were having a conversation in real life? You ok man? I don't believe "retard" is an appropriate word to use, especially from such an intellectually superior being such as your self. Maybe you need to take another SSRI to level out a bit.
You did OK for a troll, but it doesn't qualify as good thinking. What about people who are opposed to Fed gun-control but AREN'T NRA members? If I were given some kind of bizarre choice to make totally different life choices to "save a life," I'd want some DETAILS.
If I could give up ownership of my firearms as of today and save the lives of 20 kids who would otherwise have been murdered by some asshole who stole my rifle, I might consider it. But if it was someone like Boehner or Pelosi? Reid or Romney? I'd be a bit less sure about the right choice.
What if stopping eating meat today would "save the lives" of 100 Indian children with cleft palates? Would you do it?
I predict you will be very popular on this site, in a negative way.
Eat Early and Often
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all! Later.
Geez Dexter... still time before Santa comes unless the presents have got Corzined!
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Let's not forget to sign the White House Petition to deport Piers Morgan back to England: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-m...
I thought this was some well crafted sarcasm.... then I clicked the link. Created 21 December, 12,396 so far and only 12,604 to go since until 25 January 2013.
Well done America - get rid of that son of a bitch!
We didnt exile him to america because we liked him.
I hope he does not end up in my part of the world.... anyway the UK has already been 'pacified' it would do no further harm to send him back. I would suggest one of those new 'townhouses' in the Moss Side development in Manchester. Piers would like it there....
Let's do some political "horsetrading" on this:
I'll agree to limit my "clip"(s) to 20 rounds (each).
But in return, you'll have to notify the public when an md or "mental health professional"
becomes aware that a person is mentally unstable and potentially violent.
Just like we have the right to know if a sexual predator lives next door...
Without disclousre, you're clearly not interested in preserving my safety.
No disclosure, no deal.
Drugged people go on a rampage, and paranoid politicians blame guns, rather than address the real problem: their failed politics, subservience to the drug pushers, legal and illegal.
In a related issue, the CT school massacre is linked to the CIA agent Nancy Champion Lanza who worked on violent mind altering computer games. Her son Adam Lanza is blamed for the killings, although no one at the school saw him with a gun, and officials say he killed himself. No witnesses to that.
Get's more and more weird. Why was Adam in full black ops kit, face covered up, when the meme says it was a cry for notoriety before his planned 'suicide'?
Go figure, MK Ultra, or just some internet conspiratorial "noise"?
I thought her middle name was Elaine and linked her to Morgan Stanley. Someone on here corrected me. You better double check that middle name.
Well, if you know someone and you think they're about to go on a mass-murderous rampage, I'd hope you could come up with a better idea than trying to get that shit on teevee or published at city hall or whatever you're thinking.
Politicians and their pets are going to kill each other.
The honest person fears them, and buys guns, as per the Constitution, as seen in Switzerland the money masters who appoint Presidents.
The one party state in any land uses and abuses the people, and wants to disarm them, although it knows that most gun crime is committed by sad suicides and drugged up misfits - not registered law abiding gun holders.
The Gub'mint needs to have liposuction crews driving around in tanker trucks to suck up the fat of the land. When they spot a fattie, they taser him, suck out all his fat, and then move on to the next juicy target. All the fat gets processed into fuel for police cars. They could also do this with insect-like drones that would spot their quarry from the air, stun, liposuck, and process the fuel in one machine. The fat would keep the drones fueled. Unlike in foreign war zones where the natives have no fat, drones in the US could be fueled entirely from the fat of the land.
Fat is the symptom, not the problem.
P111, absolute genius. When you put yourself the minds of these state worshipping facist the final solution becomes clear.
I'm sure DARPA and the Department of Energy are working on this but they have not had the necessary funds. I say John Kerry as the new SofS should use this as his next think big project. Afterall, it's gonna have real street credibility with the Climate Change Camp. Sure it will take development funds but no more than $666,666,666,666.37 should need to be 'invested' via a competative purchasing contract via a public/private partnership.
FORWARD BITCHEZ!
Obamacare is all about controlling your diet, health and medical needs. If people depend on the govt to be ALLOWED to eat or not eat certain things the tyranny will be complete. Gun bans don't work. The late Carl Rowan, columnist at the Washington Post shot a nearly nakeed teen who was swimming in his pool. Rowan used a .22 that was BANNED at the time in Washington. He went on trial and won only because the jusry could not reach a verdict. Oh, Rowan was a huge fan of gun control including jailing anyone who possessed a gun that was not in uniform.
Further some anti-freedom gun grabbers say only the military or cops should have guns. I submit Major Hassan, uniformed military, got guns and shot fellow uniformed active duty military. This is the kind of guy you trust with a gun, to rely on for your protection?
How many cops go round the bend? How many would gladly "follow orders"?
If you don't have a job or insurance or whatever, can't you just pay $600 and ignore all that shit?
Further, if you are concerned that your child is schooled in a gun free zone--why send them? Home school them, start or use a charter school where you can write your own policies. If you personally cannot homeschool, find a trusted adult in your circle who can, put all the kids in that house for home schooling. Multiple small groups in private homes for home schooling takes kids out of the line of fire.
Fine, give me a tax credit to offset the burden I take off the school system.
Just got done watching the hunger games. The solution to obesity now seems obvious.
Studies show banning guns reduces suicides as well as homicides.
"Some may shrug and say that suicidal individuals without guns would simply turn to another method. This is wrong. Not only do numerous studies link the presence of guns to elevated suicide rates, but suicide by gun is far more lethal than other methods. The “success rate” of gun suicide is about 90 percent, compared with less than 30 percent for poisoning, for example. Firearms also require the least amount of persistence and effort; the ease of pulling a trigger makes a gun more appealing to those who act on impulse. And studies of suicide survivors find that only about one in 10makes a second attempt."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-gun-control/2012...
Too bad we can't ban food. The causes of obesity are far from clear; besides too much food and too little exercise, sleep debt, depression, fewer smokers, side effects of pharmaceuticals, and older mothers have been cited as causes.
New theories suggest genetically modified wheat, a bacteria called enterobacte and BPA in plastic containers might contribute to obesity as wel.
In any case, your argument is apples and oranges. Very weak.
I owned one of the very nicest suicide devices at the time when I really came to terms with this concept.
Who do you want to save, and why? It this really about some kind of *physical* constraint?
Personally, I think if you get gummit out of all these businesses, we'll do it a bit better because we'll all know no one else is going to check our work.
Not sure I get your drift, are you saying you are one of the 10% who survived attempted suicide by gun?
I know a lot of mostly young people who are too impulsive for their own good, always having to learn lessons the hard way. If a significant number can be saved because they are forced to figure out something other than a gun (90% effective) as a way to attempt suicide, and it might be my child that is saved, thats enough for me.
Let's get out there and save some children.
By instituting enormous legal monopoly of violence, whose minions using their massive force will disarm previously free people. For their own good.
If you are worried about minions destroying your freedom, in the end do you really think the well armed libertarians could take on the Military Industrial Complex? In what imaginary world do you live in? Are you visualizing going out in a blaze, like the Waco seige?
A bunch of shoeless, illiterate cave-dwellers in Afghanistan would disagree with you.
You are delusional. As if the USA is anything like Afghanistan. lol.
Not sure I get your drift, are you saying you are one of the 10% who survived attempted suicide by gun?
No, I realized I was very sick at the time and sought help.
If a significant number can be saved because they are forced to figure out something other than a gun (90% effective) as a way to attempt suicide, and it might be my child that is saved, thats enough for me.
Sounds very sensible to me. So don't buy a gun! Easy enough, right?
The government will regulate only if it is to the advantage of its Big Business partners. In this case, less gun control means more sales for the defense industry, which also sell to the police and military.
For fat, more sales for the food industry, with health care costs either paid for by citizens or passed on to them through public debt.
The 'nanny state' is well established in Britain after 13 years of socialist government under Mr Blair & his cronies. Nanny always knows best, but still seems able to waste many £billions of taxpayers' money on loony ideas. And it's well under development across Europe.
Nobody should be under any illusion that the nanny state is just a euphemism for authoritarian socialism, ie fascism-lite. Eventually, it becomes far worse. The Left is overflowing with mindless cretins and busybodies who want to create a utopian world where everybody's behaviour is exactly what suits them. Conformity to their rules is the golden rule. But given that most people like the freedom to exercise their own choices and take their own decisions about a whole range of matters, this is where authoritarianism comes into play. The nanny state soon introduces penalties for non-compliance with its orders. Quite soon after that, you have a police state that monitors your every action, including your travel. Then we will have digital money, so the state knows what we spend and where. In several areas of the UK we now have loudspeakers fitted to public streetlights and connected to CCTV. Some surveillance apparatchick is then able to shout down the microphone at anyone who drops litter and order him to pick it up. If he ignores the instructions, a police community officer is soon on the scene to deal with him/her.
Mayor Bloomberg is simply an American incarnation of what we have in Britain and Europe. They all represent the thin edge of the wedge. Their goal is a mindless utopian society.
Slaves have most of their life choices made by their owners. All, or almost all of their income is taken.
How can a person effectively taxed at 70% (VAT, social security, taxes on imports - whatever you call them, all payments to govt are taxes) and with significant parts of daily life regulated for the pleasure of beaurocrats say s/he is not a slave? You can pick type of college, flavour of personal debt and sex partners - this is logical conclusion of totalitarian socialism.
I agree. The amount we Brits actually pay in taxes overall is seriously understated and truth is sidestepped by the political elites and MSM. Even purchase costs which have no direct VAT taxation element are usually uplifted by the growers/distributors/retailers huge (often deliberately hidden) cost of regulatory compliance.
In the UK, many people didn't notice that the annual motor car MOT test was regularly toughened up under the last Labour Govt, to the point that it forced owners to spend ever larger sums to keep their car on the road -or- call it a day and buy a new one. Either way, every penny spent attracted VAT. Of course the Labour thieves claimed it was all in the interest of safety, but many new MOT requirements had nothing to do with safety; they were about increasing the velocity of money and tax revenues.
On whether we're already slaves, I think it's a matter of degree and timescale. But the long journey has begun and the elites will assure us every jackboot step of the way that we live in free society, such is their level of lies and propaganda.
There is something peculiar about watching very-overweight men practicing tactical [firearms] self defense. A few years back, that Argentine collapse survival blog posting guy (maybe all fake) commented that it makes little sense to be armed to the teeth, yet too fat to move yourself / family through the field to safer grounds.
If you can't run away, you need more weapons just to survive the onslaught of zombie hordes.
Besides, you can sit there taking potshots while your sleeker family members hotfoot it to the hills.
Best place to start, Ban Michael Moore.
C,mon globalists whats that fat gluttonous slobs carbon footprint?
My two favorite sources of health and nutrition information have got to be The Economist and Zero Hedge. A lot of the information is crap, but always evocative.
Whenever I start seeing the 'known facts' from another field of expertise oozing out of a Zero Hedge article and pissing me off, I know it's the weekend.
Keep up the great work, guys. And ask yourselves why it is that people with higher than average cholesterol levels live longer than people with lower than average cholesterol levels.
This is exactly why guns cannot be banned,there is no one to protect us from the zombies.Two reasons The government in charge has warned the people about them along with NASA and the CDC and because my God deemed it.
Swallow that pill globalists
When secession, brought on by stark and severe cultural differences of opinion between Blue and Red states over what brand of corporatism should be practiced, the Blue states will benefit from lower health care costs.
That is because statistical and plainly visible differences in obesity rates exist as between the old and new confederacy on one hand and the Yankees on the other. Speaking personally, I've traveled through the old south this holiday season. The southern comfort food one finds along the way is tempting, perhaps, but it is turning the people into blimps.
I have never seen so many 500 lb people. Those who are merely obese, meaning 300 lb men and 250 lb women are the small ones in some parts of TN, AL, GA, KY and SC. This is from personal observation.
When you add that region's penchant for gun toting-shoot first, questions later-to its fatty content and its opposition to healthcare for all, you end up with a pretty sick region.
Go South :-/
It's curious how the map of heart disease closely matches the map of conservative voters.
We are already being taxed to the tune of a trillion FRNs + a thousand side dish programs to educate the entire populus. If these education programs taught logic instead of faith based slave conditioning we wouldn't be considering this absurd abuse of State power. Think.
Trillions for fat bankers but not a farthing for plebeian Snickers addicts.
Stuff it, Economist.
Rothschild mouthpiece and nanny state bugle. I had to cut back reading it because it would raise my blood pressure to dangerous levels.
The Economist is more lethal to physical and mental health than all the Twinkies and Krugmans in the world.
Sad to see the degradation of a once venerable flagship of the dismal science reduced to a garbage scow.
Gun control = people control.
If everyone can't wrap their mind around this concept, than I can't help anyone.
What wrong with these two stories? Proof Emilie Parker is still alive.
"Do you want me to read the card?"
Version 1. http://www.infowars.com/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-tear-jerking-press-conference/
Version 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBEjqax6h3s
Version 3 MSM release http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcNEbszYlM0
Smoke and mirrors.
Next, Emilie Parker and family with Obama on his Sandy Hook visit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tmy3D6KK1Y
Moreover:
I'm throwing a flag for too many players on the feild >
New Player >
They are obviously deceiving the people for their own agenda. the car that was supposedly lanza's mom wasn't actually hers. it is? registered to Christopher A. Rodia. The license plate number was "872-YE0" (registered to Chris) All the information is completely flawed. There have also been spotted actors in interviews that are supposedly parents of some of the children. These people have been seen in other news "episodes." Obviously the news is pure entertainment for the gov's propaganda
Wake up America.
Any CCTV footage of the patsy inside the school?
Thought not.
Bin Laden was buried at sea, too.
Sure.
What a wonderful world...reminds me that i read here or somewhere else that "Never psyop at home" rule has been broken with completely...those "actors" are more common in Middle Eastern productions though.
Bingo! you get a green ^ for paying attention. There was a brand new surveliance system installed recently. FBI made a statement last Sunday morning at 11:30 on Faux Noobs stating "No video will be released" Why? Aaahh the questions don't go away do they?
As for Bin Laden, that was a proper muslim burial and how dare you question the MSM / Administrations "official" story. Mecca is that a way > ^ < or somewhere in between, individual results may vary..
Don't you know that all criminals have ready access to invisibility cloaks? That's why there's no video. Nothing to see... move along.
Embed this link because it's disappearing on sites. And for good reasons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tmy3D6KK1Y
"I carry a gun because a Police officer is too heavy"
When some maniac breaks into your dwelling and threatens your wife and daughter with rape, torture and murder, you will wish for one thing......
My car keys, so at least *I* can leave safely? Is that what you mean?
No, I think he means he will leave his wife and kids behind so he can scream out of the driveway in his Mustang Cobra while firing off meaningless shots into the air in a feeble attempt to say he tried to save his wife and kids. He will circle the block trying to round up his buddies and get them armed to the teeth before he heroicly returns to the scene of the crime (after taking the Mustang to the car wash), only to find his family destroyed as he poses in fake grief for the local news hillbillies.
Fade to black.
Eating, borrowing, spending and wathcing Jerry Springer while waiting for the next Gubbermint check... that's the New Paradigm.
Leave us fat bastards out of your gun control debates. My last heart attack was 30 minutes ago. Luckily my doctor prescribed me a 9mm glock nitro pill injection system fired under my tongue every time I feel another heart attack coming on. He suggested a 9mm system since it didn't have enough power to penetrate my facial fat and actually blow my head off. And it holds enough rounds that I only have to reload once every 4 hours. Fucking reloading is exhausting and causes me as much grief as trying to wipe my ass.
S'cuse me while I go finish my triple Baconator after my lastest heart attack so rudely interrupted me.
"Gun control = people control."
That is false. armed citizens are nothing more and nothing less than a MENACE, writ large. As a menace, gun toting results in diminution of other rights. Put it this way: the 2nd amendment is not the only right and it is not the most important one. It isn't even the first listed one. The 1st amendment contains rights, as do the 4th, 5th and 14th, by way of example.
Unlimited gun toting overthrows other rights, such those involving, literally, life, liberty, freedom of speech and freedom from surveillance.
Example: NRA president calls for armed guards in all schools. Doing so turns schools into prisons. I doubt the NRA president even realizes that gun toting abrogates, rather than promotes freedom.
Being forced to pay school/property taxes at the point of a gun when you have no children of your own turns YOU into a prisoner and makes a mockery of so-called property rights.
Umm... you just described the GOVERNMENT and how they operate, and by your own definition THEY are your MENACE.
Sir, you are wrong. Israeli school have been using the undercover cop model for several years and to date, no attacks. Wonder why? Real terrorists and maniacs don't go to schools or other places where they might be confronted with equal force.
As for your other vacuous claims, you only have freedom of speech, religion, etc., because free men and women DID and still DO have guns. All of your freedoms are maintained by good people with guns. The KGB files after the fall of the Soviet Union showed very clearly one of the main reasons that they did not want to go to war with the US, is that there are so many individual gun owners in the US.
Cult - a quasi-religious organization using devious psychological techniques to gain and control adherents
Cult = NRA
This is all so simple ... restrict unemployment benefit for fat people, so they cant afford more fizzy drinks at the expense of the taxpayer and raise Social Security contributions for fat people, as the private sector does for smokers.
No control, no infringement of liberties just a reminder of the social contract that underpins societies.
The War on Fat. Throw 'em in the slammer with the weed people. Feed 'em broccoli and beans.
I'm happy and proud to be a Viking. Of course even we are getting fat and lazy these days. Plundering is down by 2/3rds.
Overbet
Your comment and word count is full you know what.
These comments on the number of work used to described definitions has been circulating around Europe for months now.
IT WAS DESCRIBING Brussels and European Union bureaucratic system. It had nothing to do with U.S. government and its desired to control the cabbage industry.
You got a lot of up arrows because people are basically uniformed.
I beg to differ Rustysilver. We all know that government statistics of any kind are a lie. Regardless of whether stats on the cabbage industry applies to the EU or USA the intent was humor and shock value. He could have substituted the IRS code book in place of cabbage regulations, but so far nobody has been able to count the amount of bullshit the IRS keeps coming up with.
We need faT control.
There arent enough skinny chics to meet demand.
RED STATES FTW!
The Feds have no jurisdiction within the states. Title 18 section 7 says that three times. I am amazed how much effort is put into bitching instead of searching and finding that truth. The legislative powers of the United States are also defined in the constitution and title 18 section 7 repeats that.
How about ending corn subsidies?
That would cause a significant drop in HFCS consumption and reduce spending. Win-Win. Unless you are a corn lobbyist.
Also would reduce phosphate runoff into the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, that's the stuff they took out of our detergent. Even though runoff from state-sponsored foods accounts for about %90 of the phosphate going there.
Man...fucking Mayans ruined my week. I just woke up from the biggest hangover in my life, and I can't figure out why I'm naked, with a stick of butter in one hand, with an assault rifle in the other, and a dozen 30 rd magazines stacked like dominoes. And this chick next to me probably gave me an STD and she's yelling at me in some language I've never heard about some sticky stuff in her hair....
Ban tequila and busty strippers (and lying Mayan Apocalypse predictions)!
Thankfully, Denmark's attempt to tax saturated fat failed in less than a year so there won't be any precedents for the US government to point to as examples when they inevitably try the same:
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21566664-danish-government-rescinds...