The Sleeper Must Awaken

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Mark J. Grant, author of Out of the Box,

“Above the comforts of Base Camp, the expedition in fact became an almost Calvinistic undertaking. The ratio of misery to pleasure was greater by an order of magnitude than any mountain I'd been on; I quickly came to understand that climbing Everest was primarily about enduring pain. And in subjecting ourselves to week after week of toil, tedium and suffering, it struck me that most of us were probably seeking above all else, something like a state of grace.”
                     -Jon Krakhauer, Into Thin Air
I am not sure the country is seeking a state of grace but we are surely seeking something of a much higher order than we are getting. Congress adjourns, the President spends twenty million dollars of our money flying off to vacation in Hawaii and we peer over the edge of a monetary cliff of our own making because we have elected people that have all of the leadership skills of some Grinch that is stealing our Christmas because we let him. Ultimately it is us you know, “We the People,” and perhaps it is our two party system of government that has failed us because we put people in power who know how to run for election and re-election but who somehow have no idea how to govern the nation. It is pathos, absurdity and frankly a tragedy that we face a financial calamity, and it is just that, and our elected leaders head off on vacation.
"Well, thus we play the fools with the time, and the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us."
             -William Shakespeare, Henry IV
It may not be fiddling while Rome is burning but it isn’t that far off that course. In the end, I suspect, we will pass the deadlines and find ourselves in trouble. I say this because to date all we are discussing is who to tax and we have not made one serious effort to confront the social programs that have elected people but which the country cannot afford. It is not that complicated at its core; we cannot afford the entitlements that we have legislated and so the nation must, like any household, man up to what we can and cannot afford and get on with it. No use pretending that we are as rich as we once were and so we must first cut-back and then get down to the serious business of how we can increase our revenues. Households, corporations or governments; the fundamental issues apply and while different themes may apply for the fix; America’s economic condition must be fixed.
"The majority is never right. Never, I tell you! That's one of these lies in society that no free and intelligent man can help rebelling against. Who are the people that make up the biggest proportion of the population -- the intelligent ones or the fools? I think we can agree it's the fools, no matter where you go in this world, it's the fools that form the overwhelming majority."
                   -Henrik Ibsen, An Enemy of the People
I have suggested we place hard limits for our social programs and entitlements and work backwards and I believe this would be the prudent course but somehow prudence does not seem to be part of the thinking in Washington these days. If we said that 25 million Americans could be on food stamps or that only so much can be afforded for Medicare or Social Security then we could start from that point and make the necessary adjustments in terms of who qualified for what or raise the age qualification or allow people in gradually as a result of the limits that were set. Common sense, while never very popular in our nation’s capital, must have been banned in the fine print of some legislative act of which none of us are aware.
“Every day, man is making bigger and better fool-proof things. Every day, nature is making bigger and better fools. So far, I think nature is winning.”
                     -Albert Einstein
The awful truth is that WE are responsible. We elected these people. We condone a two party system where we end up with a choice between the mediocre and the inferior. We are left to choose between the fool and the idiot and the men of character, the people of intellect and those focused on the health of the nation are left behind either because they will not participate or because they cannot survive the taunts and tricks of those that have no other interest besides their own ego and their own self-interests. I make no apologies. This is our fault and until and unless WE start demanding a government that represents our interests and values and morals that sets-aside America from other nations; we have no one to blame but ourselves. That is the sad truth of it which is why going off our present fiscal cliff may be the best thing that could happen to the United States. We might just wake up!
“Without change something sleeps inside us and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.”
            -Frank Herbert, Dune

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LFMayor's picture

Bitches, I told you and I TOLD YOU "Buy gats n straps n shit". 



Misean's picture

What do ya mean "WE" white man? --Tonto

Seriously, I am sick of this kind of collectivist nonsense which seeks to blame me for all this mess, because the State offers me a prayer booth every few years to beseach the great EYE for alms.

dvfco's picture

Because, if you are a white, Anglo-Saxon male, it's all your fault.  

Everyone else is right, and white men have been wrong all along.

 (I'll throw in the /sarc, 'cause it's almost Christmas!).

It is the white mans' fault because throughout history, they have developed the most productive societies, all of which have or will soon collapse when the producers give up the fight to prevent the 'takers' from taking more than the 'makers' should reasonably be contributing to the common good.

Vive la France!  I'm enjoying watching the few frogs with nut sacks walk over the border to Belgium and other neighboring states to keep the money they've actually earned, rather than deal with the nearly 100% tax rate.

I think most ZH readers get the point that we cannot keep giving things away and hope to remain a civilized society.

People looking to keep all their rights (i.e. - expecting the government to abide by the Constitution) aren't crazy or greedy.  This country was only great while the Constitution was the true law of the land.  

We need an Amendment to the Constitution known as "The Final Amendment" and it should state, "As of 1/1/2013, all government officials, whether elected or appointed, shall abide by the entire Constitution, without exception, and abide by their oath under penalty of death of a minimum of life imprisonment.  There will be no 'minor infractions' in enforcing this Amendment.  The difference between a high crimes and a misdemeanor will be considered only in the manner the death penalty is carried out.  Finally, a new election will be held on 3-1-2012 to permit all the snakes to jump ship, as those whose remain in government will be prosecuted for past crimes.  It will be their last chance to walk away"

Think of it:  The entire Obama administration resigns, most local, state and federal appointees run, we have Freedom of Speech, Religion (not freedom from religion), the government out of our business, and so much more . . .The Fiscal Cliff would be a joke as all spending would decline by 1/2 just by kicking bums out.  Merry Christmas!  I guess I can always dream.


flattrader's picture

>>>I have suggested we place hard limits for our social programs and entitlements and work backwards and I believe this would be the prudent course but somehow prudence does not seem to be part of the thinking in Washington these days.<<<

I suggest we work backwards fromending illegal wars, corporate entitlements, tax credits, deductions and special breaks for hedge funds etc...and then work on social entitlement reforms.

Fuck you Mark Grant

AnAnonymous's picture

'Americans' run a business of extorting the weak, farming the poor.

Their charity business only exists because it ups the welfare of the 'american' middle class, providing them with more venues to consumption.

The first 'americans' are going to eliminate is clear, extorting and farming come with their own mandatory requirements.

LFMayor's picture

solution:  quit being weak, you fucking servile little queue wearing laundryman.  Until then, get your ass busy making plastic dog-shit, what do you think we're paying you for?

flattrader's picture

Little fucking wonder that his "solutions" are always start on the back of "low income" Americans.

Gotta protect his bankster buddies

>>>Mark J. Grant is Managing Director of the Corporate Syndicate Department for a publicly traded investment bank. In addition, he has run the capital markets departments and has been on the boards of four investment banks. He also served as the president of a public company in telecommunications and was on its board of directors.<<<

AnAnonymous's picture

This is our fault and until and unless WE start demanding a government that represents our interests and values and morals that sets-aside America from other nations; we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Ah, it is going to be difficult. As 'americanism' is spreading, as more and more people are engulfed in it, 'american' values and morals that indeed set the first 'american' nation to be erected aside from other nations, those values and morals are widely shared by people around.

Most people are 'american'

But, as a counter weight, the US is as 'american' as it used to be on 1776, July, 4th.

There is no needs to call for a change, a restoration or any thing as there has been no degeneration, no corruption in 'americanism'

Same stuff as in 1776, July, 4th, hijacking humanity for personal benefits (which set 'America' aside from other nations indeed), masquerading coercion for freedom, propaganda for truth, and injustice for justice (setting again 'America' aside from other nations that used to coerce while accepting they coerced etc)

The rise of the homo 'americanus' is still the best thing to have ever happened to humanity.

As 'americans' are used to saying.

Bicycle Repairman's picture

"Ultimately it is us you know, “We the People,” and perhaps it is our two party system of government that has failed us because we put people in power who know how to run for election and re-election but who somehow have no idea how to govern the nation."

I accept no blame.  Zero.  This democracy is a sham.  I do not need validation from anyone.  Anyone who tries to apportion blame to me will be resisted to the best of my abilities.

flattrader's picture

Grant is a bankster trying to get you and me to accept repsonsiblity for the mess and throw grammy and grandpy under the bus so he and his bankster buddies can steal more $$$.

>>>"Mark Grant is among the most astute observers of the financial scene. His daily musings are read by a 'who's who' of Wall Street pros....<<<

He must laugh his ass off when he writes this shit and then sees ZHers scream about Obamaphones.

Contrary Casanova's picture

I voted for term limits and balanced budgets. I voted for honorable men to do the right thing. Do not blame me for this mess. They are the ones responsible and soon they will lose there jobs to be replaced by new men honest men who will help this country be a place of freedom and peace. Although there may be a few bumps in the road.

Taint Boil's picture



It is refreshing to see a reference to Dune, the greatest sci-fi series ever written. Spice = Oil.


dscott8186's picture

You know, there was a time in America, at the beginning that voting actually meant something and was taken seriously.  Today voting is not taken seriously because it is considered an inconvenience of difficult choices.  

In the beginning when voting was a duty and serious business only those who were land owners and business people could vote.  Yes, that's right, there was no universal suffrage even for males at the founding, up to 50% of them didn't have the right to vote.  They copied their roots, i.e. the British.

Those who had a vested financial interest in the outcome, i.e. those who were taxed to run the government and it's programs made the decisions.  The vote became trivialized when everyone and his brother & sister had a voice in making decisions to which they in all probability had no price to pay.  When the apartment dweller has an equal vote to the home owner, guess what the consequence will be?  Moral sophistry making calls of inequality and the demand to confiscate the fruits of those who labor for those who do not.  It is as it has been foretold, When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

This is why it MUST ALL CRASH and BURN, to end the flippancy of the vote manipulated by clever self serving politicians and their cadre of tax payer fed cronies.  The end must come for the new beginning to start.  The sleeper will not awaken until the end and then only to awake at a new beginning. 

Do nothing, threaten nothing, stand back and don't hinder the process of destruction. We have already crossed the Rubicon with the national debt and the Dollar so there is no point in trying to save that which is damaged beyond repair.  Those like Obama who advance the destruction for their own selfish ends depend upon the responsible to save them from the consequences of their own efforts while all others suffer.  The rich and the powerful frequently save each other even though they are enemies because their vested interests are the same.  If they did not they would go down together for the very same reasons.  

Obama and his minions have a plan that only works if those who disagree with him oppose him.  In the very attempt to save the country, they instead unknowingly support Obama's plan.  You will all be financially equal because you will all be slaves.  Obama's plan requires your opposition to make the process controlled and incremental for the soft landing easing everyone into the Socialist State.  If you refuse to oppose him the process will rapidly crash and burn, meaning Obama will not have any control over the outcome and so find himself on the wrong side of history. This is what community organizers do, forment and take credit.  Look at his foreign policy for insight.

Argentina used to be one of the most properous countries in the New World until the Peron's took over and led the nation to Socialism.  Argentina was a republic much like ours in the 1940's.

Why did this come about?  Because our people do not view themselves as a whole but a series of competing special interest groups who are victims of the whole.  The politicians exploited victimhood and so we failed to denounce them for their actions that divided us.  We let self serving politicians behave as though doing something evil was good and that is our fault.  Since when was race baiting an act of goodness?  Since when was forcing the taxpayer to subsidize the profit of a politically connected business an act of financial responsibility?  We allowed them to advance sophistry as a legitimate line of argument.  In nature, those who behave this way are promptly eaten for their self deception.  Destruction is the purifier of all things and pain it's wise master.

blunderdog's picture

This quote is ALWAYS brought up in the wrong context...

    "It is as it has been foretold, When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

It's not "The People" who are voting themselves money.  It's the industrialists who own the country and manage the electoral process.  You look at the politicians who get elected, and you look at who made it possible, and there is universally a big-business backer who just happens to own the company that has (or will soon get) a huge government contract.

"The People" didn't vote themselves Medicare-D.  The pharmaceutrical industry did.  "The People" didn't vote themselves "Obamacare"--the health-insurance lobby did.  For sure, there are some food-stampers and welfare recipients who voted for Obama, but so what? 

He couldn't increase the monthly foodstamps allowance even if he wanted to.

flattrader's picture

>>>Those who had a vested financial interest in the outcome, i.e. those who were taxed to run the government and it's programs made the decisions.  The vote became trivialized when everyone and his brother & sister had a voice in making decisions to which they in all probability had no price to pay.  When the apartment dweller has an equal vote to the home owner, guess what the consequence will be?  Moral sophistry making calls of inequality and the demand to confiscate the fruits of those who labor for those who do not.  It is as it has been foretold, When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.<<<

Hey asshole, back in the "good old days" the non-landowners where expected to go and die for the brilliantly bad decisions that their so-called "betters" made.

Too bad the wealthy, white male population pre-Voting Rights Act didn't actually have to bleed-out enmass on some foreign battlefield for their financial interests in two fully global wars and numerous other military adventures.  There might have been fewer of these debacles.

adr's picture

The concept of WE is at fault. That a collective controlling a nation is somehow preferable to the concept of I, and local control. Putting hundreds of millions under a single banner always ends with the destruction of the population. The only people who benefit from we, are the administrators and those who wish to live off the system as slaves to it.

Did transferring retail to a giant collective help commerce? Did more people become wealthy because of it? Or did it benefit a select few and harm the collective serving it?

Did the establisment of commodity futures, thus placing virtually all farms under collective control, help small farmers? Or did it allow for the establisment of big corporate agriculture to take over? Americans could be starving by the millions, yet big ag would be selling our food to China or whoever would pay more for it.

Has allowing the banks to conglomerate into a handful of institutions overseeing all the cash and credit in our monetary system helped us?

WE is never preferable to I. The concept of self must re-awaken. Compromise can only have a maximum of 50% right, which also means 50% wrong. Our government system is nothing but an andless shitty compromise that can't ever move us forward. When the compromise fails the sides then debate which side was wrong, never figuring out compromise in the first place was at fault. At least an individual idea can be found to be right or wrong.

EcoJoker's picture

I had decided that I spend too much time trying to educate people.   They call me a nut or crazy and I'm done trying to correct them.   We're fucked.  At this point, I'm simply protecting myself and my family.  We're done as a country.


fuu's picture

"The awful truth is that WE are responsible. We elected these people. We condone a two party system where we end up with a choice between the mediocre and the inferior."

Fuck your projection Mark Grant.

There were plenty of other choices, YOU chose from amongst the two.

You little fucking worm shill.

e_goldstein's picture


BTW, glad to see you got out of the pool and got your gun back, fuu.

fuu's picture

So many boat accidents, so little time.

From Germany With Love's picture

A multi-party system isn't necessarily better. See Germany and its Euromancer fanatics. No system saves you from the wrong people (those who are actually supposed to fill it with life and meaning).

Don't change the system. Instead create a society where good, solid carftsmanship and thoughtfulness is being highly esteemed - versus just being a good show-off.

gould&#039;s fisker's picture

The more things change . . .:

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation."

John Adams

There ya go again.'s picture

Until enough people are in enough pain there will sadly be no change.


Pain is the touchstone of all progress.

Bob's picture

Painfully true, it seems.  They'd better get cracking on that security state project. 

bugs_'s picture

it is one thing to wake up, quite another to get out of bed.

Bohm Squad's picture

Let's play a game:  Read the above comments and try to find their parallel in the Burke quote below.


"It is not enough in a situation of trust in the commonwealth, that a man means well to his country; it is not enough that in his single person he never did an evil act, but always voted according to his conscience, and even harangued against every design which he apprehended to be prejudicial to the interests of his country. This innoxious and ineffectual character, that seems formed upon a plan of apology and disculpation, falls miserably short of the mark of public duty. That duty demands and requires that what is right should not only be made known, but made prevalent; that what is evil should not only be detected, but defeated. When the public man omits to put himself in a situation of doing his duty with effect it is an omission that frustrates the purposes of his trust almost as much as if he had formally betrayed it."

BuckShotJones's picture

Sleeper's? No. We are quite active and determined. Despite the reality of fiscal bankruptcy and social implosion, we could care less about our own country or children’s future . We act like a pack of wild dogs fighting over the rotting carcass that provides us scraps. The government has been subverted, the culture decimated and the population educated to believe they are really nothing more than consuming animals at a Black Friday sale.  Critical thinking gave way to emotionalism, truth to relativism, Love to sex, morality to appetite, freedom to dependency.  We have been de-humanized for the purpose of increasing control over us and we were not asleep, we adopted the new offered civilization as superior because it served us right now.

How do you bring back a human that has been raised as an animal when the owner keeps feeding him raw meat?


FeralSerf's picture

"we end up with a choice between the mediocre and the inferior."

When do we get to vote on the mediocre candidate?  The only choices I've seen from the two major parties is inferior.

kevinearick's picture

Silicon Valley: The Empire’s Whore, I Mean Handmaiden

 You didn’t really take SV’s self-indulgent profile seriously? It’s Hollywood North – completely artificial, raining stupidity, full of whores, and run by something-for-nothing niggers, white niggers, of the worst possible kind.

The Kissinger Imperative, unwinding in a city near you shortly, was to save the empire at all cost, which had run out of physical space for its ponzi demographic drive, and space exploration wasn’t producing results fast enough, for the empire at the time, so SV was hatched, yet another cycloptic head of the hydra, another hammer looking for a nail, you if you do not bow and express proper fealty for a job, to expand the empire.

Outside of several flirtations with greatness, just enough to suck succeeding generations into the war ponzi, the United States has always supplied artificial demand for the empires legacy artificial supply, and it has always been bankrupt, by design, to ensure the chain of command. There is no better delay than a virtual world, complete with a virtual economy of virtual people, normalized from birth to accept it, yuppies on the empire teat.

Hierarchical order is intelligence. That’s their fing assumption, no fing joke, and so long as EVERYONE is included, with an equal opportunity to win the fixed lottery, meaning no one outside of legacy capital, we should all be content little soldiers, right? The empire issues you credit, for a job, you give money back, and repeat the process until death. Works out for everyone.

“Artificial Intelligence is the compliment of Natural Stupidity. Machine Intelligence is the compliment of Computational Stupidity. Artificial Intelligence is the study of ideas, which enables computers to do the things that make people seem intelligent.

Entropy is defined as a Universal Energy, which results from the production of Work in a system. The production of Entropy is irreversible without the use of additional work.

In most organizational systems, the control intelligence is hierarchically distributed from the highest level, which represents the manager, to the lowest level, which represents the worker. On the other hand, the precision, or skill of execution, is distributed in an inverse manner from the bottom to the top as required for the most efficient performance of such complex systems.”

I sh- you not; the yuppies all think their function is to coordinate your economic activity with rules emanating from a computer, from on high, because you are, like them, naturally, too stupid to think for yourself, in a closed-loop, self-fulfilling fantasy, with accounting from Sacramento and law from San Francisco, Disneyland scaled. Have you ever examined the work process at Disneyland?

Half the jobs were ‘created’ in California, and the participation rate continues to fall. Wile E Coyote drops the piano on himself every time, creating the crisis. Keep banking on free pensions and healthcare, whatever you do, earned with fealty to the Star Wars Empire, built by the Asteroid generation that today’s intelligent kids ignore.

Empire lives in the time domain, which is all it can control. First, pop out into the frequency domain, and then pop back into the time domain randomly, by following what you ‘think’ is God, the unknown, until you learn to think for yourself, shedding robots as you go.

What is the individual participation rate in real estate, and where is it coming from? You might want to be moving when I pull this bent out from underneath empire time. Nature is not an evil to be feared, if you can adapt in real time.

Merry Christmas, a mass to celebrate Christ, or Noel in France. The Koreans, and others, are not quite so stupid as you may have been led to believe. They are quite capable of navigation without the petrol dollar or the technology floating it.

NuYawkFrankie's picture

POST O' THE DAY! deconstruction of SV ;)

Laddie's picture

Worse is better, sadly enough. Maybe THEN the Sleeper will awaken, I sure hope so.

Laddie's picture

This assumes that the elections were on the level, when in fact illegal aliens were voting and voting more than once. The MSM had no interest in that. Secession is the only way to avoid a Yugoslavia or another Civil War.

f16hoser's picture

I'm Awake! So are more and more of my friends.


Hey Piers Morgan, you faggot, I'm Locked & Loaded

f16hoser's picture

Raise Taxes, Grab Guns; I learned this in school. Oh Yeah, 1776!

History is about to be repeated!!!!!!

TraderTimm's picture

Sorry, but voting to "throw the bums out" isn't effective anymore. I'd like to state otherwise, but the actual principle of representative government died a long time ago, and has been supplanted by the torrent of money into accounts and the ever-present PACs and lobbying firms.

It seems to me, that there is a headlong rush to divest ourselves of any personal responsibility in general society.

Always look for someone to "blame". It can't possibly be anything we've done! No! Not in the age of navel-gazing, narcisstic social media!

So coupling an out-of-control money monster with the general indifference of self-absorbed people results in exactly what the assorted power networks want - passive populace, and preserved deals and connections that funnel funds precisely where they want.

Either the monster dies from greed, or we'll be indentured servants the rest of our lives.

Oh, and merry <consumer>-mas.



hootowl's picture

STARVE THE BEAST!!!   Individual taxpayers paying income taxes on their wages is the fraudulent funding of the greatest evil force that ever threatened the planet.  The truth is out there! Look for it.  Compensation received for services rendered is NOT "income". The American IRS is the greatest, most successful terrorist organization the world has ever known.

The greatest threat the American People ever faced is the United States Government.

I am 72 years old and have watched this country degenerate into depravity and moral and cultural darkness all my adult life. I didn't realize what was happening until I was nearly 40 years old.  I have spent the ensuing 30+ years trying to do what I could trying to slow/stop the degradation, including the publication of several books, obviously to no avail.  The forces arrayed against us are too formidable for a common man to deal with.

Those who acquire great wealth and power in a cultural and moral social cesspool are, of course the most morally and corrupt of all citizens.....and in this particular cesspool are the most emulated and admired.

Don't depend on them to clean-up the mess that created and empowered them.  When you look upon the faces of the vast majority of those in political, judicial, and financial power, you are looking upon the well-disguised, well- coiffed faces of evil.

STARVE THE BEAST!  The total collapse of the current, corrupt, political, financial, and judicial system is all that remains.  The only alternate path back to a free country is anarchy, chaos, and blood on the street.  Don't be fooled. The current system is beyond repair.





Flakmeister's picture

Take a guess where is the location in the US where a Mickey D's is furthest away...

MrTouchdown's picture

"I have suggested we place hard limits for our social programs and entitlements..."


Oh, really Mr. Grant? And just who would enforce such a limit? The gov't? Isn't that exactly the problem we have now? So, your proposal is to do more of what we already know doesn't work? You do a good job of setting up the problem, but your follow-through needs some more attention. Clearly, the "solution" is to just scrap all of it, let taxpayers keep their money, and let individuals setup their own charity based "welfare" programs.

thewhitelion's picture

"WE start demanding a government that represents our interests and values and morals."

I think many HAVE been doing this, and that's the problem.

escargot's picture

Why is it that I constantly hear about how we "can't afford" social programs and safety nets, but there's no problem coming up with tens of trillions of dollars to save the global banking system?

stiler's picture

people don't need to awaken, they need death, burial and resurrection. They are deceived in every aspect of life. First they must see that they are wicked. Not just the sheeple or the politicians and puppeteers. To quote Shakespeare: "All are punish"d!!" (Romeo & Juliet)

windcatcher's picture

The fiscal cliff situation is the culmination of a well organized and executed plan by the Fascist multinational banksters to destroy our US democracy, economy and national sovereignty.

Rule of Law has been captured. The murdering war criminals are in charge and they are going to murder Americans next. Focus attention on the enemy within government.   

NuYawkFrankie's picture

RE WE are Responsible.

Sure thing Mr Mark J Grant  - whatever you say. The mutiltaed corpse is the real perp.... right?

And here's something else to chew on:

I am The Walrus - Coo Coo Ca Choo...

Hobie's picture

The sleepers haven't been prescribed wake-up pills. They will drift along in a slumber, doing what they're told (for their safety).

elementary's picture

We didn't elect these jackasses. Elections have been fixed for decades. We have a one party system where more than 50% of the voters are too stupid to understand anything other than free stuff.

ramacers's picture

well now. seems we're comin' around to the realization that we've let a parasitic, incestuous, all encompassin' political masterclass (which includes most of the media and many corporate super bureaucrats) grow up right under our noses. we're enslaved. look at history, nothin' new. problem is, eradication generally takes down whole civilizations.

oh well.

seataka's picture

Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
Robert A. Heinlein