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Geithner - US To Hit Debt Ceiling On December 31

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Just because the Fiscal Cliff was not enough...


So since America's dysfunctional congress failed to "rise above" the Fiscal Cliff, it at least succeeded to "rise above" the debt ceiling. One out of two is not too bad...

To summarize: debt ceiling hit December 31, just in time for the no deal on the Fiscal Cliff, and then the Treasury will proceed to defund various Government retirement accounts for the next two and a half months, when sometime in March the true deadline to getting a joint solution on both the Cliff and the Debt Ceiling will becoming unextendable as the alternative is truly unthinkable: living within its means!

In other words, as we have said all along, the real deadline for a Fiscal Cliff is not December 31, but that day in March when all further debt ceiling extension avenues are exhausted.

The question therefore is - will the 2 months of America living under self-made austerity be enough to push it into recession.

And now cue flashbacks to August 2011

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Full tiny tim letter: 


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Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:26 | 3097239 fuu
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TIMMAH! knows special.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:29 | 3097253 Go Tribe
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Nowhere to be found during the election. Now that they want more money to spend, they trot him out.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:31 | 3097259 camaro68ss
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dam, bernake cant even take a vacation from holding his finger on the print button.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:35 | 3097285 Stackers
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Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:41 | 3097321 Freddie
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Honorable Harry Reid.  What a joke.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:55 | 3097373 HobbyFarmer
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Like you other ZH'ers, I'm so grateful for the leadership we have in government today.  /sarc

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:14 | 3097433 negative rates
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When are they gonna tell us something we don't already know?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:33 | 3097497 flacon
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Hey Bernanke, guess what? FUCK YOU!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:57 | 3097909 economics9698
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Oh fuck another clown show. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:35 | 3097501 john39
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meanwhile the U.S. is sending troops to 35 African countries (in addition to all the other occupied states)....

banker vampires will use every last drop of American wealth and blood to enforce their new world order before they move to the next host.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:57 | 3097562 verum quod lies
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You don’t really think that they will willingly move on to another host and just let us go free do you? Most parasites, by definition, do not kill their hosts, but these creatures seem to be I think the term is parasitoids (i.e., versus your garden variety parasites). Therefore, we must die before they let go. I have modest goals on this one, let’s just hope we take some with us.


Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:19 | 3097847 Go Tribe
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As long as we have even the faintest heartbeats, they'll keep their blood funnels up our asses.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:16 | 3097616 DosZap
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meanwhile the U.S. is sending troops to 35 African countries (in addition to all the other occupied states)....


Gotta do something, but a day late, and billions short, the REDS have Africa basically bought and paid for.(troops in Africa, is the only thing China has not deployed there.)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:50 | 3097353 Urban Redneck
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If "all measures have been used in (the many) prior impasses" what extra-ORDINARY measures does Tiny Timmy plan on using?

Or is his command of the English language as deficient as his command of Turbo Tax?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:09 | 3097368 rahbii
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All must not mean 'all' when you can't do math

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:46 | 3097686 silverserfer
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Extraordinary Measures II: Electric Boogaloo!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:00 | 3097392 SafelyGraze
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xtraordinary maybe. or not.

1. sell federal land and buildings

2. increase civil forfeitures

3. nationalize professional and college sports (and endowments)

4. eminent domain

5. mobilize the metalions from ftknox, westpoint, nyfed

6. national lottery

7. recapitalize the exchange stabilization fund

8. us notes

9. national sales tax

10. million dollar face-value coins, and lots of em

get to work, mister secretary

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:49 | 3097418 francis_sawyer
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even MORE extraordinary...


Do away with joobux [& disallow the raping to continue]...


Edit: JUNKS... OK then ~ let the jew in resident Geithner handle it [as I'm sure he's fully qualified to do so]... Yeah ~ I'm sure that's the best plan...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:00 | 3097387 Banksters
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That criminal cocksucker minion of kissinger, timmy g, should be in jail.   Instead he is pushing for unlimited debt by removing all semblance of fiscal responsibility.   Sadly,the only solution is revolution, folks.    

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:23 | 3097853 Go Tribe
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I think the way it will happen is that first the powerful will take out a few of their puppets, hoping to install some new ones. That won't work, then the powerful will split into factions, some favoring wider violence against the politicos that can't seem to get the mission accomplished.  At that point, a handful of key politicians will be taken down, and if that's not enough, then the powerful will foment an all-out revolution. Of course the violence will end when the chessboard is arranged as they see fit.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:22 | 3097459 maxmad
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Dear Santa (Congress)


Can you please raise the debt ceiling so that I and my corrupt buddies can take our loot to offshore accounts... Please I promise if you do this for me, I'll never ask for anything ever again..


-lil Timmah

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:34 | 3097254 camaro68ss
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Emerika, fuk ya

forward comrades, not one step back !!!!!!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:32 | 3097264 rahbii
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With tinyTim and subprime-is-contained Bernanke, were people really expecting a different outcome?  

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:36 | 3097287 kaiserhoff
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Hey, no short bus jokes.

Once we start those, there's no place to stop.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:38 | 3097303 Sudden Debt
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Timmah drank to much egg punch when he crunched the numbers so it seems....
Last time I checked, with a burnrate of 135 billion a month, 200 billion won't cut it for 2 months...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:39 | 3097310 Freddie
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Remember when NWO Bush ran $200 to $300 billion defecits and the newsmedia went ape sh*t?  Obama runs $1.3 trillion defecits and nothing is said. 

I heard idiots on local news radio claiming the Christmas business for retailers was down due to hurricane, shooting or bad deals at the stores.  The cowards never mention the Islamic's economic depression. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:43 | 3097331 otto skorzeny
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cindy sheehan hates obama more than bush and is continuing her protests against ths wars but now the MSM doesn't follow her around like when W was in office

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:55 | 3097372 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I heard idiots on local news radio

Still supporting the MSM? For shame.

The cowards never mention the Islamic's economic depression.

Probably because it's been repeated ad nauseam on the Michael Hussein Savage show.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:43 | 3097533 Agent P
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I'm just waiting for the media to blame this on AR-15s and high capacity magazines.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:59 | 3097572 blunderdog
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    NWO Bush ran $200 to $300 billion defecits and the newsmedia went ape sh*t?

Sure, and Dubya ran some way bigger deficits, and they were covered for awhile, but it just went out of fashion.  Obama's deficits get plenty of coverage considering how little anyone cares about fiscal policy.

The media only exists to sell ads.  Basically: if folks don't pay attention to the stories you print for many years, you eventually stop printing those stories. 

It's not a conspiracy--it's business.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:13 | 3097608 DosZap
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The media only exists to sell ads

Wrong, to carry water for the Progressives/Marxists.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:21 | 3097626 Spastica Rex
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Progressives/Marxists like Rupert Murdoch? Never heard him called that before.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:08 | 3097724 Radical Marijuana
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DosZap, your views are too superficial, and too typically trivialized versions of what is wrong, and why! Forget the left/right paradigm! Go to the radical center!

The mass media are controlled by the fascist plutocracy. They use the fake Progressives/Marxists, and everybody else, to advance their interests. Fake democracy, fake liberals, fake conservatives, and pretty well every other faked isms possible. Look at the proof of what happens: the rich get richer, and they get richer because they control the government to legalize their lies. Fraud backed by force is the reality. All the other isms are lies.

The media make money by selling ads, however, they make MORE MONEY by promoting propaganda, within which all of those ads swim like fish in the sea of LIES! The established plutocracy is based on their supreme form of wealth being the ability to legally make "money" out of nothing. That plutocracy started as predation, but then became more and more parasitic, because it is not based on real wealth, but based upon being able to make wealth out of nothing.


Thu, 12/27/2012 - 12:02 | 3098986 DosZap
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Radical Marijuana

My views are not superficial, I GET IT ALL.

I know they make money, I know both are in concert with the same agenda, just one at a differnet speed.

The only thing WE can do is deal with the WORST devil at the time.

Right now it is BHO,(the Fed is just his monkey on HIS string)and the Dem controlled Senate.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:59 | 3097711 silverserfer
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yeah its too bad the Mormon diddnt get elected he could have sold off Detroit to a scrap yard and a few states to the Chinese and paid of this god awful debt we have. We could get at lease $4 bill for Arkansas

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:45 | 3097794 blunderdog
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Sadly, Arkansas is a non-profitable endeavor for the Feds.  Even if they sold it for nothing, it would be a benefit on the Congressional budget sheet.

That's how you know someday this empire is going to end.  There'll come a time when the same applies to EVERY state in the union.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:53 | 3097364 UNCOMPROMISED

Hey FUU, I wonder what Timmahs little daughters birthday party looks like?

Pretty pink ponies, Clowns who can pull longs strings of candy out of their ears, Monkey's who speak English and say Mark-to-Bama!

Mini iPads all tuned into the end of day robotic ramp job.

What an event! Problem is the vendors and event coordinator never get paid!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:07 | 3097401 fuu
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Puppies, vinegar, and quizzical looks meine Haare.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:00 | 3097574 azzhatter
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God , I was hoping he died over Christmas

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:50 | 3097896 ball-and-chain
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We've surpasse he debt ceiling?

I've seen that movie.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:28 | 3097246 Everybodys All ...
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Well that ought to get a call for another credit down grade. Congratulations Obama. You're well on your way to transforming America.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:34 | 3097277 Zap Powerz
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What a myopic statement.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:40 | 3097319 knukles
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Actually, the last downgrade(s) from the 3 main-liners were predicated upon Not the Amount of Debt Outstanding in Absolute of Relative Terms, but upon the Inability of Those Vested with Managing the Nation's Finances, to Do So.

Another Downgrade?

Du-fucking-h, dude.

"Like buttah......" as that clearheaded liberal Barbara Streisand might intone when speaking to Gubamint Austerity.

Gonna run, slide like a greased turd down the ratings scale.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:50 | 3097351 kaiserhoff
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One of Dad's favorite expressions...

Like shit through a tin horn...., still don't know why that's so fucking funny.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:53 | 3097366 odatruf
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That was one of my grandfather's favorite sayings, too. Made me laugh every time.



Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:20 | 3097446 francis_sawyer
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I always liked "crap thru a goose" [well ~ not LITERALLY, more FIGURATIVELY]...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:31 | 3097492 upWising
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Now that is a slick sayin'!  I like that.

That is "slicker than deer guts on the door knob."

[ Jesus watches Fox News © ]
[ Amercia is Jesus' Favorite Country © ]
[ When Jesus Returns, he will come back as an Amercian, driving a Hummer, and packing heat.  © ] 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:01 | 3097575 azzhatter
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I usually say "like Bernanke's dick in Timmy's ass"

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:04 | 3097582 perchprism
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"That's slicker'n owl shit".


Thu, 12/27/2012 - 06:59 | 3098433 spentCartridge
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She's gonna go lower than the bilge shithouse in a scuppered submarine.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:58 | 3097813 BlackChicken
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Sounds clear as can be, and very accurate.

Truth bothering you? You should turn in your guns right away.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:28 | 3097249 lakecity55
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Hahaha. Like that is a surprise.

Forward, Soviet!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:30 | 3097255 fuu
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Wait a minute I thought we had till March just last week.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:32 | 3097267 Tyler Durden
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Reading is fundamental: "debt ceiling hit December 31, just in time for the no deal on the Fiscal Cliff, and then the Treasury will proceed to defund various Government retirement accounts for the next two and a half months, when sometime in March the true deadline to getting a joint solution on both the Cliff and the Debt Ceiling will becoming unextendable as the alternative is truly unthinkable: living within its means!"

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:35 | 3097282 fuu
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"Luckily, at least the debt ceiling is a firm deadline... Sometime in late March"


Beat down deserved.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:37 | 3097299 francis_sawyer
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Nowadays EVERYTHING is a 'floater'...


I council peace...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:42 | 3097325 knukles
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Aw come on, I wanna see 'em fight.
More fun when somebody's eye gets poked out.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:51 | 3097355 fuu
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I was guilty of skimming before posting.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:10 | 3097420 francis_sawyer
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I was FORE skinning... Until I was AGAINST it... [oh wait ~ I meant 'skimming']...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:54 | 3097394 UNCOMPROMISED

Oh really knukles?

"Two Louisiana Women, convicted of plucking out their sister's eyes in an apparent attempt to drive a demonic spirit from her body, were sentenced to ten years' probation Thursday."

Criminal Minds

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:49 | 3097468 UNCOMPROMISED

Louisiana, lol. Can get away with anything there, no?

Bet I can grow poundage of my special catnip there and nobody is the wiser.

You banksters and '.gov engineers' must love it there. And it is the PRIMARY reason for the treasonous Southern Poverty Law groupo.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:39 | 3097305 valley chick
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Question:  In the last "G" Fund raid...did the government ever put the money back?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:40 | 3097314 Sudden Debt
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thanks, I was going to buy gld and slv call on friday :)
better wait till februari so it seems :)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:55 | 3097374 odatruf
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Buy the rumor; sell the news.


Fri, 12/28/2012 - 01:33 | 3100966 MeelionDollerBogus
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And the news is what, from where? Mostly rumors from bullshit-mongers.

The proper saying ought to be "buy what's undervalued & sell when it's profitable without being stupidly greedy". The rest is BS. Certainly it's up to personal judgement what's "greedy" or "stupid" or "under-valued" but whatever.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:59 | 3097385 Chupacabra-322
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@ Tyler Durden,

Beware "The Ides of March."  Max Keiser called for a meltdown/collapse in April.  Either way, were fucked. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:23 | 3097458 francis_sawyer
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Let me have men about me who are fat... Happy men & men who sleep at night... Yon Cassius has a lean & hungry look... He thinks much... Such men are dangerous...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 01:26 | 3100958 MeelionDollerBogus
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Max Keiser ALSO said "buy silver, crash JP Morgan". I'll take Tyler Durden over Keiser if they aren't in agreement

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:32 | 3097265 Zap Powerz
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Remember when shit like this used to matter?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:43 | 3097330 knukles
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And not too fucking long ago, I might remind everybody.
Seems like forever...
But weren't

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:46 | 3097340 ShrNfr
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Hey bro, just too old fashioned. Where do I get me one of dem Obamaphones. Now that is shit that matters.

Of course the off books Enron accounting of the gumitup obligations doesn't matter either these days. Crap, if I filed a 10K using accounting the way the US gumitup does, I would be sharing a cell with Bernie Ebbers.


Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:28 | 3097858 Go Tribe
Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:33 | 3097269 TheSilverJournal
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The last debt ceiling debacle led to automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, AKA, the Fiscal Cliff. Maybe we'll get a Fiscal Cliff 2 as part of the deal to raise this debt ceiling.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:48 | 3097344 busted by the b...
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We haven't even had fiscal cliff 1, yet -- no tax hikes or spending cuts yet.  They always find a way to weasel out of everything, especially cuts in spending.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:10 | 3097423 TheSilverJournal
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This Fiscal Cliff will be weaseled out of. As long as they promise cuts in the future and then when the future becomes the present, postpone those cuts into the future, they can get around making real cuts.

The problem is the US can't stop growing its deficits without the entire fiat monetary ponzi imploding. The entire US economy is credit/debt based which means lower deficits leads to a slowing economy, which leads to malinvestments being realized and the banks going bust. Very few US politicians have the juevos to end the ponzi.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:52 | 3097346 knukles
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The newly to be passed legislation will begin with the following language:

"Not withstanding anything to the foregoing or hereafter, he whoever wants to do any damned thing they wish, who is authorized to do so by anybody authorizing such from a position of authority, having been previously authorized, with any and all taxpayer monies, either real or imagined, in existence or to be created, is hereby authorized to do so in perpetuity, ad infinitum, without recourse or penalty."


(Maybe we all ought a go for a dip in the Reflecting Pool in memory of Wilbur Mills before they close it to the public.....)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:17 | 3097439 TheSilverJournal
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Isn't that Bernanke's oath of office?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:19 | 3097450 kaiserhoff
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I'm pretty sure Wilbur drove into the Tidal Basin, when he was drunk as a skunk with the (ahem) fancy stripper Fanny Fox..., Not that I know anything about Fox's Fanny or her lovely Svedish apprentice..., thank god for the days before every wanker had a camera;)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:33 | 3097272 FinalCollapse
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Timmah! Use your 7% GDP Growth Model. Ha ha ha!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:35 | 3097284 otto skorzeny
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i thought the only ones expecting 7% growth every year were govt union pension funds

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:34 | 3097274 Conman
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Fear mongering time. Same as what it took to get  TARP passed . Timmay is very familiar with this tactic.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:33 | 3097275 valley chick
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"G" Fund raid AGAIN!  Damn...couldn't they be a little more original...heck...even a valley chick has figured this one out...and this time not with my money.


Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:33 | 3097276 otto skorzeny
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push it into recession? like we ever left since 1980-other than a constant string of credit-driven bubbles

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:34 | 3097280 SpykerSpeed
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Mmmmbuahahah!  *twirls moustache*

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:36 | 3097293 Catullus
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File your taxes early this year -- in march, they're going to begin delaying tax returns.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:12 | 3097603 DosZap
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Never file early, always middle of pack.

Early n Late get the scrutiny.(Unless your a simple 1040EZ and they owe you.)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:37 | 3097296 Zap Powerz
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So if the debt limit is reached Dec 31st all this means is the debt limit will be increased.  Im surprised there is even still a debt limit at all because, as we all know, the borrowing is never ever going to stop until it is forced to stop.

You think the government is going to reign in spending? LOL.  You think those "conservative republicans" want to decrease spending and reduce government? LOL.

This is pure theater.  Meaningless theater at that.

The economy hasnt collapsed yet so the printing, borrowing and overspending will continue until such time that the economy does actually collapse.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:46 | 3097338 John Wilmot
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Indeed. They will spend as long as they can borrow, borrow as long as they can print, and print until what they're printing doesn't buy anything. Pretty obvious what's coming down the road..

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:59 | 3097386 WhiteNight123129
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LOL, +10


Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:38 | 3097304 busted by the b...
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What self-made austerity?  What are they going to stop payment on?

I assumed it will only be accounting tricks - smoke and mirrors - to fund normal expenditures until the ceiling is raised in March. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:49 | 3097347 youngman
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And folks...they will just cheat....the laws are not made for them...they will just hit the print...they can and will bypass the Fed...go direct....just contol-P into whoevers account needs it...its all electronic anyway...any audits..never...its political slime...the new ruling class..

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:39 | 3097306 kaiserhoff
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Timmy's head would look so good..., on a pike on Memorial Bridge.

It would be such a wonderful lesson on consequences.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:48 | 3097548 Winston Churchill
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What about the placement of the four quarters ?

If we are going traditional,lets do it right.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:30 | 3097861 Go Tribe
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Those are moved from town to town in a wooden wagon pulled by strong horses.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:40 | 3097309 Everybodys All ...
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Now we know what really got Oblamer off the golf course.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:05 | 3097404 Conax
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Golf is a fine game, get outdoors in a well manicured wonderland and all, but if I get to Hawaii I'm going where the wahinis and the surf are, and maybe do some diving. I doubt I would spend much time polishing my backswing.  Maybe just the putter.

It seems the treasury has taken the 'purse strings' from congress.  Tim is going to pass them an outline of what he is going to do.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:41 | 3097323 thecoloredsky
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You don't fucking say...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:44 | 3097336 kito
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will the 2 months of America living under self-made austerity be enough to push it into recession.........

ha ha, austerity........there is the rainy day fund...the federal employees pension fund......and then all of the 401k/ira funds....dont worry, the govt will replace them with much more stable treasuries..........................

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:46 | 3097342 Tyler Durden
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The austerity is not from the debt ceiling but from the Fiscal Cliff, which will not be resolved until the debt ceiling is extended.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:33 | 3097491 kito
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im guessing for every "cut" made, there will be shortly be a new and different "financial need" that will arise so that the government money continues to flow into the economy and prop up that paltry gdp number that is on federal reserve life support.............a good war certainly helps offset all of those nasty cuts..........perhaps the money can come out of a new department that the obama administration will set up.............with its own fresh budget....................

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:49 | 3097532 fuu
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Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:51 | 3097549 kito
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huh???!?!? youve been hitting the bottle again????  nice stick save deleted that one just at the buzzer....................

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:07 | 3098032 fuu
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Tom and Jerry!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:49 | 3097349 camaro68ss
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I hate you because your so right.....

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:46 | 3097339 youngman
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My how this date was hidden from the election...but I also think they are buring thru money a lot faster than they said they would...that 1.3 trillion defecit is probably 2 trilion right now....well if you don´t stand for something you stand for nothing...Disability hit a new high this month...another 30,000 increase mass o menos...this has to stop it the 1% destroying the country or the 47%....

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:52 | 3097359 Conman
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BTW wasn't Timmay stepping down? When does Treasury Secretary Dimon get sworn in?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:52 | 3097361 Downtoolong
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It's like Double Secret Probabion.

Wait until S&P and the other rating agencies find out about it.


Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:54 | 3097371 Seasmoke
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looks robo-signed

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:57 | 3097379 Ineverslice
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i'm thinking that there's a better than average chance that crusise missiles will be flyin' in the M.E. by the start of March.

Anyway, the debt ceiling...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 17:57 | 3097381 MFLTucson
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This is so fucking disgraceful its hard to comment on the behavior of the trash running this country.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:06 | 3097399 EscapingProgress
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Did you all know that Barack Hussein Obama II is the first BLACK president of the United States of America? I've also heard that Barack Hussein Obama II is hip and cool too!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:03 | 3097579 azzhatter
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he's a fucking charlatan

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:12 | 3097427 Seasmoke
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how can this be ? does not seem like they are getting anything fixed over the past 4 years



Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:17 | 3097444 Banksters
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The Treasury said on Dec. 28 it would suspend issuance of State and Local Government Series securities, known as "slugs", which are special low-interest Treasury securities offered to state and local governments to temporarily invest proceeds from municipal bond sales.


SLUGS?!   LIk our clad zinc coins!  BWHAHAAHAHAH   

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:20 | 3097452 negative rates
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The Fed and the BoJ made him do it. Two can keep a secret, but only if one is dead!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:28 | 3097467 yogibear
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Obama's Turbo Timmy plays hardball.  

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:26 | 3097472 q99x2
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Geithner. You mean to tell me he's not in jail yet.+

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:27 | 3097475 rsnoble
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Have any of you ever taken a good, long hard look at this guy? I mean longer than your 2 second threshold?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:37 | 3097510 Conman
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Yep, he was great in The Hobbit, oscar nod for sure. My Precious!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:27 | 3097478 chump666
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It may be time to bet against the money hopeless a-holes all you good for, print to oblivion.

Ha!  The HFTs are looking frisky end year.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:28 | 3097479 Oldballplayer
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Shit, I get one of those every other month from American Express.  When they call, just tell 'em to fuck off....they'll get their money.  Then slam down the phone and knock over your shot onto the cat.

At least thats how it works in my house.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:49 | 3097486 Racer
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So how many thousands of little old ladies pensions are they going to steal to do that eh?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:36 | 3097507 Element
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Fiat, it's a helluva habit

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 18:41 | 3097520 yogibear
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  The Honorable Harry Reid. Majority Leader. United States Senate. 

Let me fix that....

 The Dishonorable Harry Reid. Majority Leader. United States Senate.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:06 | 3097588 azzhatter
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Dear Fuckstick Harry,


We're out of money again asshole. What are you going to do about it? I can loot the pensions for about $200B after that you're on your own


Sincerely, Timmay "Keebler" Geithner

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:34 | 3097657 UNCOMPROMISED

Dearest Timmay,

We'll give it to you now but In June 2013 you'd better have our ZOG master fully engaged in the Persian armpit or it's all ova for you and your ilk. Get it?

Kind regards,
Harry Fuckstick

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:20 | 3097624 MrButtoMcFarty
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First will be the TSP money...and the best part is the "savers" are locked in....all you can do is take out up 1/2 on low interest loan and stop contributions....but you can't pull out all money/close account until you leave service.

Thanks for your service boys! Gotcha!

We just got done with our now holiday traditional annual TSP loan to PMs conversion last week....I borrow from myself at 1.375%...motherfuckers....but it's the only way to convert TSP holdings to PM that I could come up with.

Cheers Bitchez.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:22 | 3097682 sunnyside
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And yet I'm supposed to fucking pay my taxes like a good little boy and fucking plan for next fucking year for my business when I and these ass clowns fucking have no idea what the rules will be but fuck that just shut it and pay and go hire to create fucking jobs and send that quarterly fucking check in so we can fucking fly around in a G4 but do not  think about not paying that fucking quarterly payment because if it is too far off we will fucking fine you and don't forget the new set of fucking regulations that now change every three years and then each fucking state has to fucking modify and then enforce with fucking half wits.  It makes me want to fucking close the doors and fucking lay off everyone and just start drinking heavily.

Oh, and what about that fucking gem, "....under normal circumstances, the 200 billion headroom is good for about 2 months".....WTF "normal" circumstances are we borrowing 100 billion per month.  Normal ?????

Hey Chuck Schumer, how about YOU get the fuck to work.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:48 | 3097798 blunderdog
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Hey, you can always stop and let 'em come get ya.  Plenty of folks are doing that.  Depending on what your earnings, you may have DECADES of safety margin. 

The "bill" gets bigger every day, though.  If you work it perfectly, your retirement benefit can go exclusively to penalties and interest on unpaid taxes.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:17 | 3097960 BeerBrewer09
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Another whore at the capitalist gang-bang.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:15 | 3098072 icanhasbailout
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Watch them start demanding the Fed destroy some of its T-bill holdings to make room under the debt cap.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 03:39 | 3098318 omi
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Simple. Make month and a half worth of state holidays. Most likely can save on employees, people would be more chill and relaxed. I don't think productivity will go down, but spending will be noticeably less.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 09:04 | 3098545 RSDallas
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Shouldn't have Geithner's name already been added to the US terrorist list?

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