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US Treasury "Rises Above" The Debt Ceiling - Now What?

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When Tim Geithner announced an hour ago that the US debt ceiling will officially be "risen above" on December 31, he stated that there are approximately two months in which the Treasury can take emergency measures to delay the actual debt ceiling breach, a moment in time which we believe will take place some time in March. Upon further reflection, with the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that will take place on January 1, the irony is that the debt ceiling extension may last materially longer due to a substantial reduction in the US budget deficit, potentially pushing the final threshold to as late April or even May which means the political theater is going to last for even longer than we expected - something which both parties now appear set to capitalize on as much as possible. So the question now is what are the options before Tim Geithner and what are the "emergency measures" the Treasury take to delay the inevitable moment when one of three things happens: i) the US hikes its ceiling, ii) the US begins living within its means, iii) the US defaults on its debt.

Since the third, and certainly second are impossible, and since the debt ceiling theater is something we all lived through as recently as 2011, here is the article we penned in January 2011, when that long ago debt ceiling of a mere $14.3 trillion was about to be breached, and whose ultimate rise required a 20% market plunge together with an S&P downgrade of the then pristine US AAA rating (an event which Tim Geithner had said shortly prior there is no risk of ever occuring), answering precisely this question.

From: Presenting The Treasury's Options To Continue Pretending The US Is Solvent

(just replace the numbers that were relevant in January 2011 with the appropriate numbers now, all of which are just over $2 billion greater.)

The Treasury's Options as the Debt Ceiling Approaches

  • The US Treasury is approaching the $14.294 trillion (trn) statutory ceiling on its outstanding debt.  In fact, last week the agency invoked the first of several options—running down the Supplemental Financing Program (SFP)—to buy several weeks of additional time against what otherwise would likely be an exhaustion of net borrowing authority by early spring.
  •  Although a new limit will surely be approved eventually, the process of reaching agreement is apt to be contentious.  Market participants should therefore expect a period of uncertainty lasting several weeks—perhaps even a few months—before this situation is resolved.
  •  As this situation unfolds, Treasury has numerous options to create more headroom, which we estimate could yield almost $420bn in one-off relief, including $195bn from the SFP rundown, plus about $10bn per month—far more than the $299bn the Treasury expects to borrow during the April-June quarter.  Some of these options involve accounting maneuvers that rearrange internal accounts within the government, while others affect the Treasury’s external liabilities.

The US Treasury is approaching the $14.294 trillion (trn) statutory ceiling on its outstanding debt.  As of Friday, the debt subject to this limit, which covers almost all Treasury obligations—including those owed to other government agencies—was $14.004trn, or $290bn below the limit.  Absent maneuvers to create more headroom under this limit, the Treasury would likely reach it by about the end of the first quarter.
 
A new limit will eventually be approved, as few if any members of Congress will want to risk the Treasury’s defaulting on debt obligations.  However, the process of reaching agreement is apt to be contentious given the divided control of the US government and the pronounced differences that exist between Republicans and Democrats on fiscal priorities.  For example, some influential Republican congressmen have vowed to vote against an increase in the debt ceiling unless it is packaged with significant cuts in spending, an approach Democrats are apt to resist.  Thus, the potential exists for a period of at least several weeks of uncertainty about the government’s ability to maintain its current borrowing schedule and ultimately to pay its obligations, comparable to earlier episodes in 1995-96 and in 2003.  In fact, the uncertainty could last for a few months given that the Treasury’s cash flow is usually fairly firm—and its borrowing needs are therefore a bit lighter—during the second quarter, when the ceiling will start to impinge on its operations.
 
Given the potential for a protracted period of unease on this issue, we devote this daily comment to the options Treasury officials have available to them to create additional headroom under the debt ceiling, many of which were on display during the earlier crises.  We divide them into two groups: (1) moves that change only the internal accounting of liabilities with no effect outside of the government’s balance sheet, and (2) moves that have an external effect, which include one measure that has already been invoked to buy a few weeks’ time—running down the Supplemental Financing Program (SFP).  For each option, we include the rough amount of debt issuance the Treasury could forego by using that strategy.  Altogether, they amount to one-off options to create almost $420bn of relief, including $195bn from the SFP operation, plus about $10bn per month.  This is far more than the $299bn the Treasury has announced as its preliminary borrowing need for the April-June quarter.  The options are as follows:
 
1.     Internal rearrangement of liabilities
 
a.     Disinvestment of the Civil Service Fund ($72 billion (bn) up front, plus another $2bn per month):  In order to avoid breaching the debt limit, the Treasury’s authority over the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund (CSRDF) allows it to (i) redeem Treasury obligations of the fund as they mature and (ii) to suspend the investments of amounts coming into the fund, which are  mandated to be invested in nonmarketable Treasury debt or other debt backed by the full faith and credit of the US government.  Both strategies amount to exchanging liabilities of the Treasury that count toward the debt limit for those that do not.  The CSRDF balance is likely to be around $790bn by March 2011, comprised almost entirely of Treasury securities. The fund is expected to receive $101bn in revenues this fiscal year, and is expected to pay out $72 billion, leaving a surplus of $29bn this year.
 
To activate this option, the Treasury must declare a “debt issuance suspension period” (DISP), the length of which how much of these funds the Treasury can use to create room under the limit.  The Treasury may suspend investment of new funds during the DISP, and may also redeem before maturity an amount of Treasuries equal to the amount of payments expected to be made by the fund during the period.  Since the law does not dictate how the length of a DISP is determined, the Treasury could in theory announce a very lengthy period, which would allow it to redeem a greater amount of Treasury securities and buy more time under the limit.  Previously announced DISPs have ranged from a few months to one year.
 
b.    Suspending reinvestment in the “G-Fund” ($116 bn)
:  As with the CSRDF, the Treasury can suspend its issuance to the Government Securities Investment Fund (G-Fund) of the federal Thrift Savings Plan (TSP).  As of October 2010, the G-Fund balance was $116bn.  The G-Fund is invested in non-marketable Treasury securities that mature daily, so the entire balance of the fund is theoretically available to the Treasury to avoid breaching the debt ceiling.
 
c.     Disinvest Treasury securities held by the Exchange Stabilization Fund ($20bn):  The Treasury’s Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) was created in 1934 for use by the Treasury to stabilize exchange rates, and the Treasury has wide latitude over how the $105bn in funds in the ESF are invested.  The ESF currently holds $20.4bn in non-marketable Treasury securities, which it could disinvest and hold in cash. 
 
d.    Exchange Federal Financing Bank (FFB) debt with the CSRDF ($15bn).
  Although it is part of the Treasury, the FFB is subject to a separate limit on its debt issuance, set at $15bn.  The FFB typically issues debt in order to purchase securities issued by other government agencies.  The CSRDF has authority to hold debt issued or held by FFB.  During debt issuance suspension periods, the Treasury can exchange FFB debt, which does not count against the debt limit, for Treasuries held by the CSRDF, which do count against the limit.
 
2.     External rearrangement of liabilities

 
a.     Run down the Supplemental Financing Program (SFP, $195bn)
.  The SFP was created in September 2008 to help the Federal Reserve expand its balance sheet without increasing the volume of excess reserves in the banking system.  Under this program, the Treasury has been issuing special cash management bills (CMBs) and holding the proceeds of this issuance on deposit at the Federal Reserve.  At its peak in December 2008, the outstanding volume of SFP bills was $550bn; however, since early 2009 it has been stable most of the time at $200bn in a rotating cycle of 8 56-day CMBs of $25bn apiece.  Since this debt counts against the debt ceiling but merely funds a larger-than-needed cash balance, it is an obvious first step to tap this source of funds.  In fact, last Thursday the Treasury announced that it would run the SFP balance down to $5bn beginning this week.
 
b.    Suspend issuance of SLGS ($5-10bn/month):  The Treasury issues a special State and Local Government Series (SLGS) of securities that state and local governments may purchase to invest the proceeds of tax exempt bond issuance.  Suspending SLGS issuance is another of the initial steps the Treasury typically takes as it runs out of headroom under the debt ceiling.  As of January 28, $187.2bn was outstanding in SLGS; however, the rate of monthly issuance is fairly low—around $8bn in December.  News that this program has been suspended could come as early as the refunding announcement due this coming Wednesday morning.
 
c.     Financial asset sales ($156bn, but unlikely to occur)
:  To our knowledge, the Treasury has never engaged in the sale of financial assets to avoid reaching the debt ceiling.  However, for most of its history the Treasury has not hold significant amounts of liquid financial assets.  Times are different now.  As of December, the Treasury held $155.6bn in GSE mortgage-backed securities purchased in 2008 and 2009 as part of the program to support the agencies.  These purchases were funded with Treasury issuance, and sale of these securities would allow the Treasury to forego net issuance for several weeks.  However, unlike the accounting maneuvers described above, the sales would be permanent, since the Treasury’s authority to purchase GSE MBS has expired since these securities were acquired.  Given the political importance of the housing market and the potential for complicating the upcoming debate on overhauling the GSEs, sale of these securities seems unlikely as anything but a last resort.  In theory, sales of assets held by the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) could also be used to create headroom under the debt ceiling; the Treasury seems unlikely to time these sales based on debt ceiling considerations, but sales of stakes in AIG and auto-related holdings could net tens of billions of dollars in proceeds, depending on market conditions.
 
d.    Suspend federal payments:  Although we don’t expect the showdown over the debt limit to come to this, if the delay in raising the debt limit were so long that the Treasury exhausted all other options such as those listed above, we would expect a decision to suspend payments to employees, contractors, and potentially to beneficiaries of federal programs, rather than fail to make payments of principal or interest related to Treasury securities.  Some congressional Republicans opposed to raising the debt ceiling have introduced legislation to legally prioritize payment of principal and interest over all other obligations incurred by the federal government.  This is very unlikely to come into play, but it is worth noting that even assuming the worst case scenario in the congressional debate over a debt ceiling increase, payment of interest and principal would not be at risk.
 
As noted above, passage of an increase in the debt limit will occur at some point, because the consequences of not enacting an increase are too high.  However, it is quite possible that this issue could stretch out over several months, with one or more small increases (e.g., $100bn or $200bn at a time) to buy additional time as lawmakers try to fashion a more lasting solution.  And even once this occurs, the issue will recur from time to time until the federal deficit comes down.  After all, the last increase—of $1.9trn—lasted barely more than a year.  So keep this daily comment handy.

 


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Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:31 | Link to Comment Banksters
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Obama's real backers.   This is a fascinating article.

 

 

The Crown family: investing in weapons, war ...and Obama http://warisacrime.org/content/crown-family-investing-weapons-war-and-ob... Don't worry, because Obama wants gun control! Obama will throw social security and medicare under the bus for the cliff and debt ceiling compromise.   Just watch.

Ah to be poor, disenfranchised and gun free.   Give me a fuckin shank!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:36 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Anyone find some "soma" layin round here ? I need a break.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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ACME sofa cushions [look underneath] bitchez!...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:05 | Link to Comment knukles
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The CNBC crowd will now tweet "Mission Accomplished @#getthefuckoveritTimmahsavedthedayagainain'titgreatbooyah"

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:14 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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3. other strategies

a. treasury jubillee (100bn) 
declare certain treasurys held by the federal reserve to be irredeemable by same

then re-issue those treasurys all over again

b. escheat (300bn) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escheat
the process of re-assigning legal title, in stocks and shares whose owners cannot be traced, to a state authority 

this one is a little complicated .. it involves the treasury (through its dtcc arm) issuing shares of fb and hlf and uupl to "registered voters" who "participated" in the "election", then acquiring legal title to same and cashing out.

actually, that process may have begun last month

 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:10 | Link to Comment flacon
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So WHEN can we expect the S&P to de-levitate? December 31st? Some time at the end of Feb? Mid March? Beginning of May? Is it BULLISH until then? 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment ACP
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After they raise the FUCKIN' debt ceiling.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:33 | Link to Comment Payable on Death
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What is the penalty for a breach? Seriously. If too many bonds are sold, who is in exactly what trouble? Anybody know?

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 20:51 | Link to Comment knukles
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There is no event of default as proscribed in an indenture as there is no indenture.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment HomeBrewPrepper
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Just kick the turd down the road. Too messy to fix the problem, can we get some bootys over here

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment eclectic syncretist
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I can't figure out Turbo Tax Timmy is so far into the ol' tool box that he's scrambling for smoke bombs and mirrors now.  Maybe we should all mail him some mirrors to help him figure out what the problem is.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment THX 1178
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What about our treasury holders and those who use our currency for trade? How long will THEY put up with it? They are the ones who really control our currency, not the federal reserve.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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Ben needs to print > $2 Trillion next year if it was $1.9 trill this last time for the deficit alone, no tocunting all the other unfunded liabilities.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:30 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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"So the question now is what are the options before Tim Geithner and what are the "emergency measures" the Treasury take to delay the inevitable moment...."

Uh, I didn't see the confiscation of all those 401k accounts as a proposed solution.  What's so hard about that?

Easy stuff!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment ball-and-chain
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How many times have we risen above the debt ceiling?

Quite a few, huh?

Wash, rinse, repeat.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2012/12/yesterday-we-went-to-burger-king-for.html

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Tyler .

Not so sure about that extended deadline.The sequester cuts will result in huge layoffs now.

More than enough to offest tax revenue increases which will not result in cash in

hand till April anyway.

We will see.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment cxl9
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Ha ha! "Cuts"

I will say again. There will be no net reduction in government spending, ever, until the final collapse. Sequesters, debt limits, fiscal cliffs, it's all nonsense. There is simply no mechanism by which government spending can be reduced.

$next year > $this year > $last year

That's it, until it devours all.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:08 | Link to Comment knukles
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The Fiscal Cliff Sequester For The Better Boyaah Cuts will have about the same effect as all the folks in the State Department who were fired or resigned for the Arab Spring, Muslim Brotherhood takeover, Reestablishment of the Caliphate across the MENA Region without a battle raging amongst the East and Western Forces of the Gog and Megog Apocalyptic Proportions, and Complete Ownership of the Sacred Oil by the People Who Fucking Hate Everybody Who're Not Followers of the Sacred Howdy Doody Sect.

Oh, and what happened at State (I digress):

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/benghazi_penalties_are_bogus_...

(only 10 years into the thick of the shit and you're this cynical alreday, Knuks?)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:16 | Link to Comment WTFUD
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Ah those pesky derivatives or derivatives thereoff raising their medusas head yet again! Just multiply ( no calculator ; thats cheating) the number of times the sun orbits the earth in your lifetime by the number of Apple redundancies in the coming 3 years times the number of times a government employee has fainted less than 72 hours before a congress grilling and divide by the number of politicos who don't have an Advantage Gold Account in Cayman and your getting luke warm as to the Sum of the Fiscal Cliff!!

First correct answer receives a blow job from Nancy P! 2 million next runner ups a dvd of Berlussconi ramming a dildo up Mario M ass.

sorry for this

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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"Just multiply ( no calculator ; thats cheating) the number of times the sun orbits the earth in your lifetime "....

Well since the sun doesn't orbit the earth the answer is zero...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:24 | Link to Comment HoofHearted
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I'd be willing to bet the tax refund from this year that my tax refund will be delayed because of this shit. And then one party (and the other) will blame the other party (and the one) for holding the American people hostage. 

Anyone take the bet?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:57 | Link to Comment klockwerks
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Hoof, how do you get a tax refund. No doubt your not self employed

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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Ah, to get a tax refund.  What's that like?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Bollixed
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It's like, "I just lent the government a bunch of money for free!"

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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I guess you can tell how stupid the world is because the ZIRPier we get, the more sense it makes to overpay on your taxes.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Nothing will happen. All of DC benefits by spending. No one wants to end the party.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Bad Attitude
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You are assuming the DC folk are motivated by money. What if they are more motivated by power? What if they are steering things towards and economic emergency so they can consolidate their power?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:59 | Link to Comment klockwerks
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BA, you just hit the nail on the head. I truly believe it is preplanned and it is ALL about power and control. They don't need the money but just want the power to control, everything

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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What a nightmare. I thought watching this thing unravel would be much more amusing.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment negative rates
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The issue will recur from time to time, of course until it doesn't.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment NOPOMO
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Time to hit the kids Piggy Bank. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Critical Path
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Sad...

Let history remember this group of worthless leaders as some of the worst ever.  No one will forget when they and their friends asses were on the line in September 2008 the importance they placed on coming together and working out a solution (to their constituents disapproval). 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:48 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Hopefully we rember about 98% of the scumbags convicted for treason.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Payable on Death
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The current situation is more or less inevitable. For politicians wanting to be re-elected, giving away money is the sure way to success. (You see that "politicians wanting to be re-elected" is self-reinforcing over time, right?) Then the obvious thing to do is to give away money without raising the revenue. Better yet, take lots of people off the tax roles--demand for benefits is infinite (again, self-reinforcing) if cost is zero.

I say "more or less inevitable" because the only way for people to work against these cycles of (apparent) self-enrichment is to believe they are constrained by something outside of themselves. There are probably several ways to think outside yourself and for the long-term, but it is easy to correlate the problem with a decline in Christian values amongst the U.S. populace.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:40 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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How convenient, precisely on December 31, 2012.  The Fed should not be trying to panic Congress to get what they and Obama wants.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Cable Guy
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But...but...but...they promised me right before the elections that everything was going to be alright?  

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:39 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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The path of least accountability is to just raise the ceiling and keep everything else the same.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment flacon
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But those pesky Tea Party Republicans won't let that happen - unless they could be bribed some how. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:27 | Link to Comment bobert
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Flacon:

The "Honorable"  Barnie Frank described the Tea Party movement on TV today as irresponsible extremism. An over reaction by America's electorate.

I suppose if as large a group of his kind were elected he would think that a great enlightenment had occurred.

Upside down.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:39 | Link to Comment UNCOMPROMISED
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Obama! The savior must save us.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:03 | Link to Comment klockwerks
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Never fear, he is winging his way back from the beautiful beach and golf course as we read. Anyone old enough to remember "Here he comes to save the day" All will be wonderful upon his return.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Underdog?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:39 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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I'll buy some of the GSE mortgage-backed securitiesfor 20 cents on the dollar. Ok, maybe I'll go 21 cents.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:52 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Terminate the debt ceiling and party like its 2006 1/2. To oblivion and beyond>>>>>>>>

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:52 | Link to Comment HD
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I would love, LOVE to see the internal CNBC "rise above" email. Some producer (I assume) seems obsessed with the talking heads wearing the infamous "rise above" buttons at all times - even Santelli is explaining where his button is when he forgets to put it on.

There also seems to be some new requirement that all the men wear jackets and ties at all times...even Cramer and his now covered rolled up sleeves.

If these are the best ideas CNBC has to improve ratings - they need MOAR STRONGER ideas.

 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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...you can damn well bet that this rise above campaign came right through Jeffery Immelt's filthy Chinese communist hands.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:11 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Yes, we must all risinski's aboveinski's.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Water Is Wet
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Cable news is a shitty business.  Let GE flail around trying; I don't care.  I won't be watching no matter what they do.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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These libtards would still vote for him. It's not like the media is complicit to any of this financial theft or anything.....

/sarc

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Um ahh, but of course you realize that the media just delivers exactly what the people want...harg blar...and nothing less, right, obviously they do or they'd be out of business, naturally.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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oh they're frothing Pavlovian dogs....

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Bernanke amd the Federal Reserve banksters print into the destruction of the US dollar.

Then a call for a new Reserve world currency.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:02 | Link to Comment blown income
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Thank you  government fucks for destroying my 7 year old daughters future

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:10 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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My daughter is one. We will be right next to you in line for our guaranteed SNAP benefits. They should place Obamas face on those cards.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:13 | Link to Comment negative rates
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It was written, that all children born after 1991, were to belong to the devil! Why is it that your kid is different here?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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I love the little devil. You? You're a cocksucker. Eat a dick. It's not my fucking fault your socially and emotionally devoid of attractiveness. Have fun masterbating FOREVER.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 08:06 | Link to Comment blown income
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Fuck our government

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:14 | Link to Comment ItsDanger
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I suspect selling the 'assets' at a loss is a likely scenario to keep the fraud train rolling.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Benjamin Glutton
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gotta love it when a plan comes together...+1000

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:16 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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If I knew Obama winning would speed up the collapse. Wish I voted for him.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:18 | Link to Comment CPL
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a.     Disinvestment of the Civil Service Fund ($72 billion (bn) up front, plus another $2bn per month)

 

Translated COLA is suspended, you are going to pay a lot more and be receiving a lot less. Welcome to the beginning of Greece two years ago except the US is hundreds of trillions in debt.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:39 | Link to Comment Water Is Wet
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Yeah, but we have our own printing press.  SUCK ON THAT GREECE.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:38 | Link to Comment ramacers
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a death spiral by any other name....

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:42 | Link to Comment chump666
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Wow the future is getting shorter and shorter...

 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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"The weak have one weapon: the errors of those who think they are strong."  Georges Bidault (1899-1983); French politician

Hang on, Sloopy...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Benjamin Glutton
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"the actual debt ceiling breach"

 

Overtopped, not breached bitchez!

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/isaac-makes-second-landfall-levee-overtopped-in...

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:22 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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My greater fear is not that the FED and central banks are corrupt and have evil goals, but that that they are so dysfunctional and chaotic with no effective capacity for leadership that no one is in control of any destination. It may be that no cogent sentient rational force is piloting our economy. Just the illusion someone is in charge.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 05:27 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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I fail to see the difference, both lead to The Great Implosion™!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Kastorsky
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US Treasury "Rises Above" The Debt Ceiling - Now What?

SSDD

 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment larz
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I have absolute faith that our upstanding leaders in Washington will do us proud! 'Oh say can you see........'

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:34 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Bump er up to 30 tril. and get Bernanke priinting.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Cut the defense spending allocated to killing Arabs and Blacks.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:47 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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During the time I actually READ all that shit, I failed to do anything to improve my personal situation in life.  Fuck me.

My understanding is that shit is fucked up and bullshit, and our politicians have based their career strategies on making sure that this natural equilibrium is not disturbed.

The most obvious way to diminish the politician's power is to start ignoring him.  He'll die like any other celebrity.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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Timmy G still putting out the hits!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:13 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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    ,and by 2015-16... 'Obi`majikwand`Kenobi's white house budget will have breached $2 billion annually!    

"Obama Family cost Taxpayers $1.4 Billion per year"     http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210323/Obama-family-costs-taxpa...

Has Obi put a spell on hi$ people?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwXai-sgM-s

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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This is not the ceiling you're looking for.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Payable on Death
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+1

That's why I ask, what is the penalty for a breach? Sell too many bonds, and then what? Who loses their job?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Element
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Fine but the raiding the piggy-bank is pure Washington theater, and part of the pseudo-'democratic' ... um ... "debate" thingy, they need to run past everyone, so it still kind of looks like that what you think or say matters - even a little bit.

How much did the Benocide secretly pull-out of his freckle, to loan to countries like, well, like Libya, in 2008-09? ... about $22.5 trillion USD or sumfink wosnit?

That tells us all we need to understand about where this is going to go, regardless of any legal obstacles, or the outlandish er, ...'democratic' ... er, ... "debate" about it all.

Grab ye bowl of buttery popcorn, and get ready to laugh until you cry, at the hand-wringing and tear-filled high-dramas, as it's going to be absolutely fucking spectacular acting from here on!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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The LAST time we 'hit the ceiling', didn't Cali-exico have to print up 'IOU' script?

 

They should print up fiat-like bills with pictures of Ahnold....."Can't pay you now, but OLL BE BACH!

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:03 | Link to Comment TonyCoitus
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Isn't the Treasury and Federal Reserve one in the same?

I'm so confused.

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:40 | Link to Comment bobert
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They are getting very close to being the same. It wasn't framed and sold this way, however, in the years leading up to 1913 when the Fed Reserve was created.

Good question. Or was that a good observation on your part. (Use sarc on and off so slow old guys like me can be sure about what it is you are saying.)

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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The Debt Ceiling - sounds like a gameshow, which of course, it is.....

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:31 | Link to Comment ItsDanger
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Maybe the granny in that wonga ad can help out here?

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:32 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Lets get it over with and go ballistic with debt. Wiemar here we come. 

Wed, 12/26/2012 - 23:54 | Link to Comment Gmoney
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They will create Orwellian interpretation of the 14th Amendment to get around the debt ceiling once and for all, the language being "Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:16 | Link to Comment shuckster
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I remember doing a report on the FedGov. The report concluded that the FedGov spends $4 billion per day (July 2011). That rate has since increased to $20 billion per day. The Fed's current purchasing program alots $85 billion per month, or an added $2.8 billion per day added to the money supply. Regardless, going from spending $4 billion a day to $20 billion a day in 1 and a half years is an increase of 500% or just a little bit under 1% per day. But I think we are starting to enter the period of diminishing return. I certainly felt a lot richer 1 and 1/2 years ago than I do now, and I imagine its the same for others. In other words, it could be interpretted that the value of our dollar, in real terms, has dropped by 80% in 1.5 years

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Manthong
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That ceiling must be a glass one made in China.

It won't contain the sharks here, either.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 01:33 | Link to Comment One World Mafia
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There were supposed to be automatic military spending cuts. Where does that stand? I guess now that they are using cheap drones it doesn't cost so much to butcher Arabs and blacks.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 03:45 | Link to Comment Element
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Doesn’t matter what is done, the US is going to follow a path approximating Spain, and the rest of them. The best that most minds in banking and economics can come up with, is to keep expanding the public-sector whenever the private-sector is contracting, or else you'll definitely get a recession, so no austerity. And yes, austerity certainly will produce recession, and require spending/printing to try and ease out of it.

But obviously that approach will not keep working, or for very long. Plus it requires endless monetization of debt, and implies intensifying currency war, and shocking rates of currency debasement.  And the plain truth is, when you cut away the Govt statistical BS, even that isn't working:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

But despite it's not working, it's still the only 'plan' out there. More like a default-position really.  Because regardless of all the talk and nonsense and rank stupidity that's coming over the next few months, Washington is going to agree to maintain spending and high deficits and to not raise taxes by much.

Instead, they'll somewhat agree to more-or-less remove the debt-ceiling 'problem', pretend the budget is viable, and to keep kicking the can much more quietly, until kicking it does absolutely nothing detectabe or at least positive, except to begin to break some toes and to start to kick right back.

So any way you look at that it implies the US is headed for another, and in fact, a whole series of debt-rating downgrades, and a steady real decline in prospects and conditions (that Govt stats will almost, but not quite, completely fail to capture and reflect).

--

Bill Black: Kill the “Fiscal Cliff” Instead of the Economy
Tuesday, December 25, 2012
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/bill-black-kill-the-fiscal-cliff-...

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 05:31 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Such is the nature of exponential functions...

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 07:31 | Link to Comment cebri88
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"We can always print money"

 

 

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 09:04 | Link to Comment Bob Sacamano
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The much repeated "the US could default" refrain is 100% false scare tactic by the left (Timmy et al) and the MSM.   Covering interest expense on the US debt is easy and any debt maturities get refinanced by issuing new debt (as is done now).  There is no chance of default besides voluntarily choosing to do so.  It is not due to any cliffs or ceilings.

Thu, 12/27/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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How about (iv) The Treasury issues trillion dollar platinum coins (with Obama's face on them - aka Obamacoins) and covers the deficit with pure seigniorage.

 

"So the question now is what are the options before Tim Geithner and what are the "emergency measures" the Treasury take to delay the inevitable moment when one of three things happens: i) the US hikes its ceiling, ii) the US begins living within its means, iii) the US defaults on its debt."

 

Obama has already said he will not negotiate over the debt ceiling, and I believe he means it. If he blows away the debt ceiling and utterly defeats Boehner with the coin seigniorage loophole, he will become a true legend in his own time. The cult of Obama will grow by enough leaps and bounds to put him on Mt. Rushmore before the decade is out.

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