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Obama To Assign Fault; Propose Plan D, Different From Last Friday's Plan C - Live Webcast

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We would expect the ingredients of the speech to be a pinch of self-denigration mixed with 6 fluid ounces of 'millionaires-and-billionaires', and a quart of "it's the other guys' fault." This coming from the man who precisely a week ago announced he would propose a "scaled down" plan, which today turned out was a complete lie: some leadership. Nevertheless. it will be interesting to see how his 'new' plan, same as the 'old' plan, is different from the 'new new' plan-to-come as he pushes the Senate to propose a 'new new new' deal that will really be a 'skinny irrelevant' deal - no doubt heralded by all asunder as a 'grand new' deal. Though it appears we should have no fear as McConnell and Reid are working on it and McConnell is "hopeful and optimistic." Farce!

 

For those who missed it, here is the WSJ rundown:

President Barack Obama said "the hour for immediate action is here" on a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. The president said he remains "optimistic" that an agreement can be reached in Congress before a looming year-end deadline to avoid tax increases and spending cuts.

 

If Congress can't reach a deal, the president said Congress should allow a vote on a basic package that would preserve tax cuts for middle-class Americans while extending unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and working toward a foundation for a broader deal. Senate leaders said they hope to reach a compromise that could be presented to lawmakers by Sunday, little more than 24 hours before the deadline.

 


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Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Plan "D.C."

Second verse, same as the first.- Sugar Hill Gang.

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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YEAH! He's here to save us!!!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:56 | Link to Comment economics9698
Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment TuesdayBen
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All Hail 'The Amateur'...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:35 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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 'Obama To Assign Fault'. 

His entire presidency, summed up in one short phrase...someone put that on the teleprompter please!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:14 | Link to Comment Michaelwiseguy
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It was the Democrats who insisted on an expiration date for the Bush tax cuts. Place the blame where it is due.

Sat, 12/29/2012 - 03:58 | Link to Comment JuliaS
Sat, 12/29/2012 - 07:52 | Link to Comment saturn
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Wake me up when there's plan O.

Sat, 12/29/2012 - 08:01 | Link to Comment Caggge
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OOh yeah! Our political leaders are going to save us from the problem they created...the problem they developed....the problem that is their excuse why we need them as our employees.

The fact that this problem wasn't solved a year ago should embarrass all of them into resigning. The fact that this problem wasn't solved a year ago should make the employer, we the people, give all these fucktards their pinkslips.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Questions?

Fuck off...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment cossack55
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I thought that was "Henry the 8th" by Herman's Hermits.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:31 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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cossack55- great link on the 7.83hz. (last week)

Thanks!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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Throw a bag of burning shit at the podium!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:29 | Link to Comment knukles
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...ring the meeting bell, run off giggling, hide behind a the TV cameraman and try not to laugh too hard...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Just burn the bag of shit behind the podium?!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Stick it on a shoe.  It translates better.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment candyman
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Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on any other bills. What a fucking idiot. Constitution, what is that?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:52 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Obama left his teleprompter in Hawaii...this is what happens when a "constitutional law professor" tries to wing it on his own, after having had all the test answers given to him, for his entire life.

Ah well, lets sing some more Christmas Carols...Over the cliff & through the ditch...to grandmothers house we go, the horses are blind, but I don't mind, cuz we got the big O...Ohhh!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Silly Boehner, taxes are for Republicans.

The tax increases will be a nightmare!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/the-fiscal-cliff-and-...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Silly Boehner, taxes are for Republicans.

The tax increases will be a nightmare!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/the-fiscal-cliff-and-...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Bacon
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He votes "present" again by treating us to another ambiguous, vague lecture without details or Q&A. Quite a leader.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:36 | Link to Comment ball-and-chain
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Obama!

I call him the Velvet Hammer.

I really respect that fascist.

I wouldn't mess with that Chicago-style gangster.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2012/12/yesterday-was-freezing.html

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment BraveSirRobin
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I'm so glad he's our president! He's sooooooo dreamy.

 

 

Sat, 12/29/2012 - 04:49 | Link to Comment Old Earth Chaos
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Actually, "Second verse, same as the first." originally came from Herman's Hermits in "I'm Henery the Eighth, I am".  But yes, I agree. :-)

Sat, 12/29/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Lewshine
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What has anyone learned from the past when it comes to the these Fed and Government deadlines? They arrive, and miraculously the goal post is moved to in order to reward those that have frontrun the inside wink and nod of Ben's I got your back moment....Therefore, GOT MONDAY CALLS??? a complete no-brainer, take candy from a baby, risk on trade (even IF they have no deal)!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment NemoDeNovo
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Same shit Same Puppet

 

Long metals

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:38 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Bayonets, even.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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Blame the Republicans.

Just a repeat.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:36 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Your fault, bitchez!

(Oh wait, I thought it was all George Bush's fault)

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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It was only his fault that he didn't go to Baghdad. Give him a break, he's very old and not well.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment knukles
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Who, George?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:55 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Hillary has a concussion, no independent recollection, yeast infection, all the above..., WTF?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:57 | Link to Comment knukles
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So it's still Bush's fault.
Thank God for that!

I was gettin' a little hinkey there for a moment.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment krispkritter
Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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she has had plastic surgery and needs time to recover for her 2016 run as the next puppet.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:26 | Link to Comment knukles
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Butto and Kankle Suction as covered under ObamaDon'tCare in place of the RFID!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:50 | Link to Comment NemoDeNovo
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+100 Kankles, gota Love 'em, and Billary has the SWEETEST Kankles in DC Bitchez

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:00 | Link to Comment One World Mafia
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They'll never let her win with those loose lips of hers...

Hillary Clinton Admits US and Al-Qaeda On Same Side in Syria

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-admits-us-and-al-qaeda-on-same-s...

Clinton Announces al-Qaeda as Legitimate Government of Libya

http://www.infowars.com/clinton-announces-al-qaeda-as-legitimate-governm...

There's even vid of her admitting it.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 21:32 | Link to Comment Element
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Put this with it - from a few days ago:

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SYRIAN GIRL - Obama Directly BACKING AL-Qaeda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ptLizwNUGM

Could it be any more clear that Obama Sin-laden is the defacto head of Al-Qaeda in Syria? (FSA - Free Syrian Army) He's politically recognized them and he's now knowingly supporting their forming an acting as the Al-Qaeda-based Govt of the 'newfree' Syria, and he's arming and funding them. So we have a nuclear power actively using and backing Al-Qaeda proxies to achieve USSA state policy, formulated by Hillary Clinton and the CFR.

 

Your new Al-Qaeda allies, FSA at their best (gruesome video - you were warned):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-wO9fGIQdqA

 

At least Syria's real Army knows what to do with Barry's-boys.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Freddie
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The Pentagon, Joint Chiefs, CIA and pathetic newsmedia are cowards and traitors.  Al Qeada is in Egypt, Libya and trying to get Syria.  Seal Team 6 was set up and no one says shit about any of it.  The Clintons are up to their fat necks in it as well.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:09 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
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I feel as much sympathy for GW Bush as he did when invading Iraq, among other things.

A pity that old bastard won't feel but a fraction of the pain that he inflicted on others.

GW Bush makes me wish I believed in hell....because if there was one, he'd be in it. 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Bacon
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No, we are in it.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 23:25 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Poppy or GW?  Poppy's crew tried to whack Reagan.   We have had NWO since Poppy.  Bush, Clinton Bush, Hussein.  All stooges for the NWO and Mena/Latin drug cartels.    I was totally convinced when the Bush clan "became" best buddies with the Clinton.  Poppy was like the sober WASP CIA daddy that Bill never had.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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The Bush's were great can kickers. Why do you think they got contracts.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Hey easy on the guy. He already took full blame for Benghazi.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:52 | Link to Comment knukles
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Who, George?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Well, it WAS his fault after all...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Well, maybe the Iran-Contra thing...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment XitSam
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Not Teapot Dome?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:24 | Link to Comment knukles
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Arch Duke Ferdinand, fer shur.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Cdad
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It is not immediately clear to me just what the President intends to say to CEOs on his upcoming conference call.  

As for "the plan"...be it the new new one, or the old new one...it will be a "skinny deal" as has been apparent all along.  There is no market favorable solution here.  We've known this all along.

 

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:40 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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How long will he keep the peasants waiting?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:57 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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as long as it takes to snort a line off larry's ass.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Esso
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There went dinner. Is puking allowed in Fight Club?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment knukles
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Larry?  I thought it was either Moe or Curley's turn this week?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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Plan Z: meteor strike

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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Press conference starts at 5:45, obama will show up a little after 6 count on it

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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let me get my shots ready

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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1/2 shot for "bi-partisan"

1 shot for "fiscal cliff"

1 shot for "looms"

1 shot for "in the balance"

2 shots for "the american people"

3 shots for "you know, mr. speaker"

5 shots for "ample"

10 shots for "the rich"

20 shots for "pay a little more"

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:48 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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Wnat about the word "Fair"

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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"workin folks"

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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30 shots for "uh", teleprompter is still on holiday break.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment JustPrintMoreDuh
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"Let me be clear"

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:07 | Link to Comment The Gooch
Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment TuesdayBen
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We can all agree that...[insert falsehood]
No one would dispute that....[insert falsehood

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:43 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Why doesn't he go head up the troops in Africa like Eisenhower.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Bawneee Fwank
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Because he is a pole smoking chicken shit!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Esso
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Yeah, there's that.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment TuesdayBen
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Cuz there ain't as many mirrors in Africa

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Forward ! ...bitchez...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Wait,

Obama got re-elected?

Fuck...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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I'd give him closer to 6 months than four years.  His resume is pure bull shit and there's a few millions for whoever gets a scoop on the nasty.  On to dentu-cream man. 

America often prospers under idiot rule. 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment knukles
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Wait...
Hold on a moment...
The last 10 years been pretty bad so are you insinuating that....

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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I see your point, knuks.  May have to check my math;)

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Bawneee Fwank
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This is all part of the planned economic collapse.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment therealmonty
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Preparations A through G were failures...now it's time for Preparation H!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Oldballplayer
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On the whole, it feels good.

--  Dr Evil

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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ew you mean "in the hole" doncha... u nasty

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:48 | Link to Comment FishHockers
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Let fire them all or set them all on fire

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:48 | Link to Comment H H Henry P P P...
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You better not be short over the weekend. They will take advantage of Monday's low volume half trading day to agree on something and reverse today's drop.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment riphowardkatz
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who is they? and if they are so f'ing smart why did they need a bailout?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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HA HA HA indeed....if 'they' are so fuckin' brilliant and all then why do they need bailout life preservers thrown to them every few months.

What people dont realize here is 'they' are lunch....'they' think they're part of the club but are lined up to be Bear Stearns-ed real soon.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment XitSam
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They didn't need a bailout, so they got a bailout.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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How blind can you be?

You don't recognize looting the treasury (and taxpayers by extension) when you see it right in front of your freikin eyes?

It's ALL a big fucking LOOTING SPREE, they've been looting the damn country 4 fucking years now.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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They've been looting for a LONG time - way more than 4 years. 

 

they've been looting the damn country without trying to hide it anymore 4 fucking years now.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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70% of the Fiscal cliff will be enacted in the best case scenario. You could be right with the ALGOS in charge, but negative growth in 1st and 2nd quarter 2013 seems baked in the numbers!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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Gold been tryin to tell yall all the while.  I mean wouldn't we be pushing 2k gold price if all they had to do was push the easy button... extend/pretend/kick the can ? Gold's not really trying to feel all the luv out there... more like it's saying duck bitchezz.. or so I'm thinking

 

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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A room full of journalism degrees and not a single real reporter among them. Jake Tapper excluded.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:50 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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The plan is to do what?

Is it to reduce the deficit?  Nope.  It's to . . . avoid reducing the deficit because that would be de-stimulative.

So best that there be tax increases on the rich (about $80B in tax revs for 2013 out of deficit of about 1.15T) while increasing spending 80B in 2013, to avoid damaging the "fragile economy" (in its 3rd year of recovery).

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Please allow me to fill in the script:

1)  They came for the AKs, and I said nothing because I did not own an AK

2)  Then they came for the hanguns, and I said nothing because I did not own one

3)  Then they came for the rest of the guns, I said nothing because I did not own any

4)  Then they came for the gold, I said nothing because I did not own any

5)  Then they came for all of my money...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:52 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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Oh yes... that fantastic "no pain" deal which has eluded everyone for years... the magnificent Obama will reveal to us right now...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:26 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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And now for my next trick....watch me shove this pineapple up americas ass! Don't worry, you wont feel a thing!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment davidsmith
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Nope, there isn't going to be any agreement.  There is NO indication that Tea Party members have broken their vow of silence.  As I said before, they have formed a hedgehog defense in response to the 2012 elections.  This is the LAST opportunity they will have to break the Constitution, and they are not about to pass it by.  Probably what will happen, once we go over the cliff and the ceiling is not raised, is  that Obama will proclaim a national economic emergency.  That's just what the Tea Party wants--so they can say that the Administration has broken the Constitution, so tax strikes and any other kind of anti-Constitutional activity is permitted.

 

Just study the last days of Weimar or the Spanish Republic--same script.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment EINSILVERGUY
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If you think the Tea Party is the bottleneck in negotiations then your an idiot. Obama does not want a deal. He wants more revenue for government spending, the rest of this is just kabuki theatre.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:06 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Sir, you are unfortunately right.

Prepare for more of the same, tax & spend...

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:24 | Link to Comment knukles
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And somewhere, today I think it was, somebody mentioned that the problem in the House (as per drama, complexities and analysis, not them and us shit for there is no more them and us) is not just the Tea Party, but 4 or 5 Democrats from Red States up for reelection next time about... so scared shitless about loosing  their seats on the Gravy train Express.....

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:35 | Link to Comment nmewn
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You got it.

Course, Reid could just bring a floor vote on the bill already sent over from the House and resolve it...up or down...but what fun would that be? ;-)

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:41 | Link to Comment knukles
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Exactly.
Would eliminate all the fine political drama.

It's exactly this kinda horseshit that got us downgraded last times around, by the way.  The inability of the governing to govern.
I'm a gettin' real tired of this shit.

And just think... the second four years hasn't even begun, yet.

(think my nuts just shriveled up into my torso)

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:16 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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.

"And just think... the second four years hasn't even begun, yet."

(stop giving me nightmares...)

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:31 | Link to Comment franzpick
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Nationwide NoBama-inflamed polarization has already gone disturbingly way too far: its time to prepare for the american economic and civil fragmentation that will erupt when tax and spend hits dead end.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment knukles
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"Nationwide NoBama-inflamed polarization has already gone disturbingly way too far..."

Amen to that, brother.
Way past anything considered acceptable civil, moral, ethical, mature behavior.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 23:37 | Link to Comment Freddie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjB8z0Bvi14

2:10 "Totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct."

Tyler's had a GD Spradlin clip with Al in another Coppolla film.  This clip was written by John Milius (Wolverines!).

Note the evil CIA guy.  They are always there helping - like today with Bronco Hussein during these times of tumult.

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:54 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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............tax & REDISTRIBUTE......FIFY.

 

 

"From each, to each............"

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Absolutely correct. The only question I have is what's the next move when all the blood has been squeezed out of the middle class. I just see visions of tractor buckets ala Solent Green but I tend to run on the pessimistic side.Perhaps they'll just put Soma in the water supply and we'll be passive and happy in our new state. Too bad for me I'm on a well.

Miffed:-)

Sat, 12/29/2012 - 16:52 | Link to Comment monad
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Read The Stand by Stephen King.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:05 | Link to Comment riphowardkatz
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I pity you fool. The tea party hahaha. and that is why Obama brought the same proposal that he knew would never be accepted. come on, I am guessing even you are not that dumb

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Chewybunny
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Someone! Make a drinking game out of this.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment f16hoser
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Fuck It. Lets go right to plan Zulu.

Our government is broken. All levels. Let's not call it a Civil War, which we all know is coming. Let's call it a Governmental Enema. That’s what it is. Flush the shit-heads down the toilet and let’s start over.

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Fuck It. Lets go right to plan Zulu.

Our government is broken. All levels. Let's not call it a Civil War, which we all know is coming. Let's call it a Governmental Enema. That’s what it is. Flush the shit-heads down the toilet and let’s start over.

I liked Op Phoenix better.

If Feinsteins bill is passed(as written), you are 100% dead on, there will be Massive Non Compliance, and the SWHTF.

Just dropped by local two largest gun shops, all semi auto's (rifles),and used handguns,were bare.People were buying 1911's, as if they think since they are 6-8 shots, they are safe...........NOT, they make 20rd mags for .45ACP of 1911's.

Only semi clone assault (misnoner) style items for sale are consignments by customers, and only 3-4 of them, and all at 4-6x's original cost.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:56 | Link to Comment muppet_master
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ZH's video feed

is about 1-2 seconds AHEAD of bloomberg tv and 2-3 seconds AHEAD of cnbc !!! go figure !!

maybe the stupid HFT's can "capitalize" on those 3000 milliseconds !! LOL !!!!!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Conman
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TV stations run a delay for FCC reasons. Dont want to get a dick or fuck on the air.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment XitSam
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Then why is Obama being broadcast?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment El
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That's it? That's all he had to say? What a waste of time.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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not nearly as much of a waste of time as the congressional leaders meeting at 3pm. Though they are still getting paid so they gotta look like they're doing something I guess.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment FubarNation
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What a useless waste.  Shame on the election machines that elected this guy.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Thanks you very much everybody.

I'm going back to Hawaiii now.

Gotta work that par 5.

R.I.P. Dave Brubeck - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2In5a9LDNg

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:00 | Link to Comment Surrealist
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Looks like a stop-gap measure a coming.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment RedToad62
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So let me see if I got this right...Now they want to ram through a deal that repeals the laws that go into effect to try to remedy the debt situation.  What was the point?  Were the laws all for show?

1 step forward, 2 steps back.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:34 | Link to Comment XitSam
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No, no. You don't understand. They want to ram through a deal that repeals the laws that go into effect to try to remedy the debt situation. And war is peace, hate is love, defecits are free money.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment SKY85hawk
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We don't want Taxes to go up on middle-class families?

What a CON-JOB!

I hope Y'all remember that Obama and Boehner and the House and the Senate signed the 2011 Budget Deal. 

If Barry was true to his campaign promises, he would have vetoed the expiration of Bush tax cuts for the NON-wealthy last year.


 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment knukles
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Well, looks like they at least got back to the same "no deal, you gotta be kidding me" place they disagreed on a week ago before everybody went off for the holidays and then came back for the Total Enlightenment..

How wonderful.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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What can Congress possibly agree to without a hint of austerity spending cuts?

Kicking the can...will not pass REP House. ES = 1200 by end of January? Gold down heavily...until Ben warms up the helicopter....to limited effect. Gold screams like Smith and Wesson stock price.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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They got nothin left.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:49 | Link to Comment Tenshin Headache
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Other than the actual thing that we sent them to Washington to do.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:05 | Link to Comment FubarNation
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To be honest all I care about this moment is the putting through the AMT patch.  Extending Bush tax cuts would be icing on the cake. 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:06 | Link to Comment MyBrothersKeeper
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"Barry Christmas Baby"!!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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Wednesday they raise the debt ceiling and don't raise any new revenue.  Gold goes to $2K. 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment justanothersucker
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Hey, at least the long shormen didn't strike.  We can still get ALL the cheap Chinese crap we want!  That's a big win for the middle class!

What a load of crap that news conference was.  That was BHO smacking congress down again.  He sits back and does nothing except sandbag for months and then rides in on his 747 to SAVE THE DAY!  The republicrats will bite and there will be NO cuts and NO defecit reduction and NO relief for our children.  Sorry kids but this balancing the budget thingy is just too darned hard.  Now go do your homework!

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:20 | Link to Comment knukles
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Narcissism on Parade.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment FreedomCostsaBu...
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TelePrompTer auto feeds:
"Let me be clear...
"Make no mistake....
"Millionaires and billionaires...
"Ordinary folks....
"I inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression
"Create jobs in this country...

-- I can't add more, I might have an Obasm

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Oldballplayer
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If the Tea Party had any balls, they would vote no on any bill, and get the rabble out on the mall with pitchforks.

That way they will be easier for the Social Security Department to shoot with all of their extra ammo.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Getting Old Sucks
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Video not working.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:59 | Link to Comment sitenine
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That's because you missed it.

Go here to view the archived video on C-SPAN: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ObamaStatement

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Printfaster
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It is all China now.

This is nothing but the grave robbers playing dice for the dead man's watch.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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More 'I offer you nothing' from the Commander of Theives.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Incompetent D.C., total farce, as ZH predicted.  Kick them all out.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:29 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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My dream is dragging them all out with ropes around their necks kicking and screaming and hauling them up lamp posts.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:35 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Nice dream. Also do not spare their families.

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment stant
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flew all the way back early to say fuck you

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Esso
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That was money, well... spent.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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It is pretty clear what is happening.  At least to me.

He brings everyone back on his supposed reduced deal.  Yet, he does not have a reduced deal. He only has his original deal.

He said in the Press Confrence that the Congress and the Senate were going to work on a deal.  IF they cannot come to an agreement then he wants them to vote on his original deal.  Put his deal to the Congress for an up or down vote.

That deal gives him everything he wants including no Debt Ceiling over site from Congress for 2 years.  He is hoping that the Republicans will vote for HIS plan to avoid all of the Tax hikes on almost all Tax Paying Americans.  He has pushed it down to the wire where they will feel pressure to cave to his demands to save the Average American or made to look like they are against saving the Average American Taxes.

If I was in the Congress I would vote down any deal that gave him the authority of Congress to spend the nations money without the approval of Congress.

I disrespect him for using the tactic of having a reduced plan and then pulling it away like Lucy and the football with Linus.  Just to try to get a vote on his plan all along.  This is in my opinion dishonest, manipulative and not fitting behavior of the President of our United States.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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Obama has always wanted to go over the cliff - there was never going to be a deal prior to 1/2/13 (at the earliest).

 

None, never, not any.

 

Once we go over the cliff, then the Republicans are forced to accept whatever Obama wants since they can't override a veto or even get a vote in the Senate unless Obama wants it. 

 

And it's not much different than Georgie Boy, Clinton, and most presidents before him. Remember FDR's court-packing plan?

 

Don't mistake politics for some morality of dishonesty or manipulation just like one should not bring a knife to a gunfight. Boehner has a swiss army knife and Obama's got a fucking bazooka. Might may not equal right, but it does in politics until the next election or scandal rearranges the deck chairs. 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:34 | Link to Comment NeedleDickTheBu...
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I recognize that using soundbites like "millionaires and billionaires" in the ongoing debate provides a huge serving of red meat for the Democratic base. It would be helpful if these politicians and the people that lap up the message had a basic understanding of numbers and figures. There is a substantial difference between a billionaire and a millionaire - $999,000,000 to be exact.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:34 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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I guess there are a few more alphabets to go thru.

Fucking idiots whore house and congress.

 

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment TheMayor
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Obama is a liar, pure and simple.

He may be the devil himself.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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May be?

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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What is rather ironic in the whole thing is that Obama is trying to impress all of the People who do not pay Taxes.

They have no interest in the Debt Cliff as they have nothing to lose if a deal does not get done.  Their Government checks will come no matter what.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:56 | Link to Comment SKY85hawk
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We don't want Taxes to go up on middle-class families?

What a CON-JOB!

I hope Y'all remember that Obama and Boehner and the House and the Senate signed the 2011 Budget Deal. 

If Barry was true to his campaign promises, he would have vetoed the expiration of Bush tax cuts for the NON-wealthy last year.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 19:59 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Their Government checks will come no matter what.

RONG!, the extended UE checks cease..........................if they go over the cliff.

Fri, 12/28/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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You are right but I was refering to the Welfare, food stamp crowd.

The unemployed are normally taxpayers.  Just not right now.

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