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Cliff Rumors Start Early As Lindsey Graham Says "Obama Has Won"

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As largely expected, Sunday would be a day marked by rumors, anti-rumors, headfakes, jukes, denials, counter-denials, and much more groundless speculation if zero facts, however without an open market reacting to every single headline like a collocated stung dog. Sure enough, in the first such rumor of the day, we just had Republican Senator - a long time opponent of the Norquist tax pledge - Lindsey Graham, pushing for his agenda in the same way that the Greek finance ministry would unleash perfectly wrong rumors to the FT and Reuters, who said on Sunday that chances for a small "fiscal Cliff" deal in the next 48 hours were "exceedingly good" and that President Barack Obama had won: i.e., taking an opinion and making it fact - something seen so often in the European negotiating tactics. "I think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it," Graham said on Fox News Sunday. Of course, how Graham views the world, and how potentially filibustering Senators do, not to mention the majority of Congress do, is a totally separate matter.

"This deal won't affect the debt situation, it will be a political victory for the president and I hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as Republicans, but hats off to the president, he won," Graham said.

And hats off to Graham for speaking for himself if not anyone else. As to whether the president has won, tune in much later today after the emergency Congressional meeting takes place late Sunday, and especially after tomorrow's follow up GOP meetings. Something tells us Graham will be, five days ahead of Boehner's reelection vote, dead wrong.


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Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:47 | 3106309 Everyman
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Lindsey Graham is one of the biggest Pieces of Filth on that GD hill!  What a pathetic POS!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:01 | 3106339 maxmad
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Hang em high!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:06 | 3106346 bania
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Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:11 | 3106358 GetZeeGold
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We''re all Greeks now!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:57 | 3106438 ratso
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Unfortunately many of the financial issues now miring the political process are more about defeating Obama then about finding the best course for America and for all Americans.

Snarky pomposity has never advanced anything other than writer's sense of his own ego.  There's an endless amount of that on ZH. It's really rather childish and boring.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:28 | 3106525 Pinto Currency
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This is all just grade school theater before the hurricane.

There is a strong wind starting to blow and these twits don't fully understand the consequences.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 16:42 | 3107163 Manthong
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All aboard!

We know where this little trip will take us.

How many degrees from Ozzy is Obama?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:36 | 3106534 Pegasus Muse
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"Lindsey Graham is one of the biggest Pieces of Filth on that GD hill! What a pathetic POS!"

We would be remiss to not acknowledge John "Darth Vader the Traitor" McCain and his good buddies, Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman and Phil "Banksta Boy" Gramm's contributions to Amerika's devolution to a crony capitalist totalitarisn state:

McCain, Lieberman and their baby - NDAA:

McCain & Lindsey Graham on NDAA: 

Phil Gramm:  Where is the scumbag now?: 


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:03 | 3106736 derek_vineyard
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ratso---  you made your point about ego, but adding the sentence 'its rather childish and boring' shows that you are extremely driven by ego; because personal attacks are the most blantant form.  many philosophies teach reduction/elimination of ego as a linchpin of a meaningful existence.

i come here because i am frugal and i clearly see the insanity of overspending and debt and enjoy reading about this topic and the consequences/forecasts.


ratso, the recognition of your own ego is the first step in letting it go.  but its also okay if you choose to remain ego driven.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:08 | 3106771 eatthebanksters
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I would like to know where Lindsay Graham get his marching orders...

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:14 | 3107268 tango
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"Graham get [sic] his marching orders" from: (1) 1% crowd, (2) rich bankers, (3) evil Jews/Zionists, (4) the secret cabal not so secretly running the world (and doing a pisspoor job of it) or (5) Wall Street.   There, I've about covered the usual culprits on this board.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:44 | 3106420 monoloco
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Obama and the Democrats have won the chance to arrange the deck chairs how they want, it doesn't matter though, the Titanic's still going down.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:01 | 3106460 ISEEIT
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Read my mind much?


Drawn and quartered would be much more entertaining.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:14 | 3106364 FMR Bankster
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Now, now, you just don't understand Washington. Let me explain.The federal goverment is going to spend more money next year than this year but that's a spending cut because someone made them spend less than they wanted. However, if taxes stay exactly the same next year as this year that's a huge tax cut. (especially for the wealthy) Meanwhile the Potus just signed an executive order to make sure all federal gov'ment employees get another pay increase. The Senate was busy as well, passing a $60 billion "Hurricane relief" bill to cover the $20 billion in infrastucture costs not covered by insurance. Of course huge amounts of that money goes to people who don't live within a 1000 miles of where the hurricane hit. Understand now?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:53 | 3106579 Clycntct
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Nice Job!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:52 | 3106437 Joshua_D
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FU Lindsey! FU Boner! FU Obama! FU Reid! FU Pelosi!

Oh, and FU Feinstein!

And ... FU Bernake!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:54 | 3106447 ratso
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If you are trying for alliteration, you did not succeed very well.  Maybe poetry is not your forte.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:20 | 3107288 tango
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And this is the sum of your thoughts on this possibly historic event?  I can only thank my lucky stars that the Founding Fathers did not have this attitude. 

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 09:32 | 3108552 Goner
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I think they did have this attitude but I maybe mistaken. You can read about it in a few places but here is a helpful hint

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:07 | 3106599 spondoolix
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Everyman:  Which members of Congress have your endorsement?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:40 | 3106685 FL_Conservative
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A douche in a suit, if there ever was one.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:06 | 3107245 DosZap
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Don't forget McCain, War hero, now traitor.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 20:33 | 3107737 ball-and-chain
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A horse...

A horse...

My kingdom for a horse.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:46 | 3106310 kliguy38
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Just the name of Lindsey Graham makes me nauseated....what has this country become when a scumbag like that becomes a U. S. Senator? Nevermind ....we already know that answer.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:04 | 3106341 maxmad
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Mods ban that -1 bandit!  They are an obvious shill!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:13 | 3106365 mrdenis
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The only Senator who was a bigger scumbag ....Corzine 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:50 | 3106433 Everyman
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Maybe, but you have to talk about that asshole HARRY REID.  The guy that has held up budgets for 1300 days, illegally  I might add.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:11 | 3106484 icanhasbailout
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At  least we know Lindsey isn't going to get a lawyer.

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 07:53 | 3108416 Vagabond
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Seriously, If I could wish him dead he'd already be hanging.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:50 | 3106320 I am Jobe
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Pussy Lindsey Grahma and his charade about the NDAA. Hang them all

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:22 | 3106636 11b40
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But he owns a Bushwhacker :-)

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:50 | 3106321 Everybodys All ...
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I doubt Lindsey Graham knows even what the deal is let alone if it will pass either House of Congress.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:52 | 3106325 Landrew
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Have you ever held or sat in a meeting where a small subset of people want to talk trivial facts for hours because it's easy? I learned a long time ago to cut that off immediately before it takes hold. Seems CONgress is in an endless discussion about the number 16.4 ha!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:29 | 3106398 azzhatter
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yes I was a VP at GE

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:13 | 3106491 Stud Duck
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Ditto, a retired Insurance Ex in charge of a Special Investigative Unit for a large insurance company.

The system has collasped we just don;t know it yet, we are past the point of no return, the management class at these large corps are without a clue. just wrapped up in their own world of themself, no feeling for the people that they are in charge of, only their own path of promotion only.

WE ARE SCREWED, face it !

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 21:21 | 3107862 jumbo maverick
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Yes there is usually one or two fuckheads in the meetings. They will always try to talk over everyone and dominate the meeting even when they are not in charge.
So near the start of the meetings I get up and say excuse me I need to use the bathroom and I leave. I don't go back to the meeting. They don't miss me and my time ain't waisted.
Fuckheads everywhere. Like stepping in dog crap. Capitol hill is one big gathering of fuckheads. And they are all walking around with dog crap on their shoes saying "Do you smell anything fuckhead?" then the other fuckhead says back "well I do smell something fuckhead but I can't figure out what it is"

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:52 | 3106326 Cdad
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The President will take to the airways shortly, and he will offer his compromise once again.  Raise taxes...the end.  It will be tough to rumor that away.  And never mind that, even if every Republican caved in and voted to raise taxes on quarter millionaires through billionaires, it won't even come close to addressing the underlying problem.

Hello Moody's. 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:09 | 3106352 GetZeeGold
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Raising taxes should pay our way for the first week.....not sure where the money is going to come from after that.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:32 | 3106402 GMadScientist
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Bang on; none of the proposals from either side would make a dent in anything other than short-term prospects for astro-turf shoots.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:57 | 3106735 Karlus
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Obama: I've offered to them multiple times to raise taxes, and the Republican leadership keeps refusing my deal. It's their fault we are going over the cliff and raising taxes on hard working middle class families...heh heh heh

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:56 | 3106329 tradewithdave
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According to this 89 year old judge who has finally myth-busted aging and the metals manipulation in the swipe of a pen, we've all won.  Aging is a thing of the past and "ripping it up" is for everyone and everything, including the rule of law.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:09 | 3106775 shovelhead
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“Because it is not clear that Plaintiffs’ Complaint is viable or that the CFTC’s lengthy investigation into Defendants’ conduct will result in any criminal action being filed, Plaintiffs’ motion to compel limited discovery is DENIED.”

 At least he got it half right.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:56 | 3106330 fonzannoon
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I think they get a deal done. The Dems get taxes raised on everyone 250k and up. The repubs keep the debt ceiling in their pocket. Spending cuts get punted to the debt ceiling debate in March. Market celebrates everyone coming to their senses and avoiding immediate pain. Same as it ever was.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:05 | 3106344 DoChenRollingBearing
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Indeed, fonz, The Fiscal Curb is just a speed bump.

(I wish I had coined that one, but "Nobody" did)

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:23 | 3106389 Spastica Rex
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And all negotiated at the last possible moment for maximum dramatic effect.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:19 | 3106383 NoDebt
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That's what I'm thinking as well.  Taxes go up, spending does not go down, game continues.

If I've really "learned" anything from this fiasco and the previous debt ceiling fiasco is that markets will not react negatively to any impending precipice until 1 week before the deadline.  Which means if we get through this with a deal (no matter how bad) it'll be party time until 1 week before the next debt ceiling deadline in ~March.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:55 | 3106449 Harbanger
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They can't put a "real" debt ceiling in place because this whole system it's based on debt.  Real spending never goes down.  A reduction in the amount of increase is considered a spending cut.  Here's the formula they use 2+2 = 3 + 1 from Ben

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:44 | 3106422 Sooth
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And for under-$200k/$250k earners, payroll taxes go up, health care insurance premiums go up, the Obamacare taxes kick in and weekly hours get cut to less than 30 to avoid the Obamacare fines for employers. 2013 should be the year of the incredible shrinking paycheck -- at least for most people outside the Washington DC beltway.

Even if the "fiscal cliff" gets avoided, there's the "fiscal abyss".

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:58 | 3106455 CrashisOptimistic
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But see, that's the MSM meme.

All you are talking about is taxes.  It is the Sequester that is the main event.  

Delay or let it occur.  It's not taxes that matter in the math.  It is the Sequester.  That can't be used in the debt ceiling fight upcoming because it was the outcome of the last debt ceiling debate.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:57 | 3106332 PeeramidIdeologies
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Obama has his way, taxes up, and the market shits anyways. All those unprotected longs get slaughtered. Can I get a What, What?!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:58 | 3106335 tooriskytoinvest
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The Fiscal Cliff Is Nothing More Than Kabuki Theater Used To Distract The Public

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 10:59 | 3106336 geno-econ
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Lindsay Graham will be flexible so long as military /defense budget is held intact.  That is his constituency, prime interest and career background.  Too bad other Republican's are not as flexible opting instead for for ideological nonsense. As a  nation we are in deep trouble and all must sacrifice or all go down together.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:08 | 3106350 Oldwood
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Yes, raising taxes on "The Rich" is in no way ideological nonsense. After all, we all understand that adding 80 billion in taxes a year will save our bankrupt asses. And Obama won! by 51%! Fuck the other 49%. They never really mattered anyway.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:21 | 3106634 Bad Attitude
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As soon as inflation takes off, we will all be "rich". Even the teenager sacking groceries at the local supermarket will be making more than $250K a year. I say this as I look at a Zimbabwe One Hundred Trillion Dollars note that is worth more now as a novelty than it was ever worth as currency.

Things are going to get interesting soon. Buy beans, bullets, and bandages, bitchez!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:01 | 3106748 Karlus
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That would solve a lot of problems putting grocery sackers in the top tax bracket. Revenue, bitchez.



I would actually support this in a way if it meant ALL people paid taxes. The downside is giving the govt half of everyones earnings, and thats not good.

Off to the lake to see if my newest purchases float this time....they never do :(

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:34 | 3106404 azzhatter
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this nancy boy graham blows all the military brass

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:00 | 3106457 CrashisOptimistic
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No one has said the Sequester isn't going to hit.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 15:08 | 3106917 fattail
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Fine.... My vote is we go all down together.  parasites, moochers, crony criminal contractors, banksters, dhs , tsa, and all the other worthless state, federal employees and the taxpayers.

Let us have our big reset and get on with our lives.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:00 | 3106337 maxmad
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Lindsey "get your pencil and paper ready"...... oh wait/.)

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:04 | 3106342 LoneStarHog
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I would, except for the fact that all my available cash has purchased lead in another form than #2 pencil. Maybe the old Abe Lincoln trick of using charcoal from the fireplace?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:39 | 3106410 GMadScientist
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Viagra? ;)

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:00 | 3106338 Rainman
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Happy Fukkin New Year, bitchez !...same as the old year

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:02 | 3106340 wcvarones
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Lindsey is a flaming RINO.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:08 | 3106474 gtb
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Did you mean gay RINO?  There's no doubt he's "flaming"...

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:31 | 3106668 wee-weed up
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The people of SC despise that miserable pantywaist Grahamnesty and have been waiting a LONG time to be able to vote his sorry ass out of office.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 18:02 | 3107383 roadhazard
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Ooooh no, he is a fucking wingers winger. It's amazing how wingers can stretch when they need to.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:08 | 3106353 tooriskytoinvest
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OBAMA: 'I Was Modestly Optimistic Yesterday, But We Don't See An Agreement'

Read more:

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:12 | 3106360 AC_Doctor
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Gutless, POS Congress couldn't cut a fart...

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:12 | 3106362 MFLTucson
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Winning means further enslavement by this trash!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:14 | 3106369 Oldballplayer
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Do these people realize they just breathed fresh air into the "original" tea party folks-- the ones that protested on the mall --not the social conservatives that took over the movement.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:15 | 3106370 pacu44
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they are going to vote on this over a holiday... all these great pieces of legislation always get passed over a holiday... they really are for the people, they work, while we get a day off...

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:15 | 3106373 james larson
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The President "won" exactly nothing.  Republicans lost the narrative/negotiation  the moment they considered anything other than creating a bill that would have made all the Bush Tax Cuts permanent and forced the "explanations of veto: on Obama.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:33 | 3106382 Banksters
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I guess we are heading toward a 2nd half 'summer of recovery.' Snark.

Seriously,  the tax issue is  based off of a false argument- how much vs how little.  This type of debate gives the federal reserve a hard on.   The real question should be:  Are Americans responsible for paying tax accrued by politicians who lied to get elected?   For example, shrub bush said he wouldn't nation build and yet that is exactly what he did, much to the delight of KBR, Haliburton, and many other contractors.  They never did find WMD's did they?   In fact, I don't believe the govt story on 911 one bit.   


DEBT REPUDIATION!  YES WE CAN.  Fuck you bernank.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:23 | 3106386 Brokenarrow
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I love zh. It's well written, smart, sophisticated, and widely read, even by those that claim it's a "cassandra cheat sheet." Fuckers, like Joe Weisenthal, the new and improved James Cramer.

But, I have lost a fortune shorting the equity market, and I don't suspect that will change anytime soon.

I long dog, sds. Long some dia puts--all in the money. By the end of the week my guess is that I'll be under water again. I'm bailing on all shorts am.

I'm tired of being "smart" and wrong.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:33 | 3106405 LoneStarHog
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If you are truly "smart" you would have left these CORRUPT markets long ago.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:42 | 3106413 GMadScientist
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I heard about a guy like you; covered right before the "big short" in 08.

We miss his wife's cookies. ;)

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:52 | 3107368 Papasmurf
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They'll run your stops again tomorrow.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:25 | 3106392 ptoemmes
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Wait until they all scramble to the mics and cameras proclaiming how they came together to save America....and the gutless reporters and pundits will all nod in awe. I figure before 3:00PM tomorrow to ramp the markets. You know it's gonna happen but you are powerless to stop it.

Unless I'm (hopefully) wrong.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:36 | 3106680 wee-weed up
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Yep, you're right about them "coming together" to save America... all they know how to do is circle-jerk!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:32 | 3106401 Banksters
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Debt repudiation!   Spread the word, just like Patrick Henry's rap.   No taxation without representation!!!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:30 | 3106399 Oldwood
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No better business than selling hope to the hopeless. Its a bonanza!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:32 | 3106400 I am Jobe
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Amerika a land of yak yak and more yak to nowhere. None of these idiots will survive in the outside world. Ship the MOFO's to Somalia or somewhere in Africa and see how they squel like a pig.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:35 | 3106407 I am Jobe
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If Lindsey Grham wants his family ship the entire family as well with him, airdrop the fuckers and say goodbye.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:41 | 3106412 dogfish
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Never trust a man named Lindsay or Lola.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:42 | 3106417 GMadScientist
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"Damn, got some big big feets."

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:42 | 3106416 MickV
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Graham and every member of congress are protecting their own ass by protecting the Usurper--- because they allowed a non natural born Citizen to sit in the WH. They all committed treason. National Debt was increased 60% by Obama, this congress and the Fed. Now they say we the people have to pay w/ higher taxes. If the top 2% were taxed 100% it still would not pay the debt. It's about power, and taking advantage of the jetisoned "no tax w/o capitation" clause. Like an addict, the more they get, the more they need.

Criminals all.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:46 | 3106426 Bastiat009
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Bailouts of losers after bailouts of losers, deals are always reached at the last minute ... it's just a bad show that leads nowhere, but as long as retards are elected nothing will change. 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:50 | 3106435 moneybots
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The gaming of the American people continues.


Neither party has proposed balancing the budget, let alone paying down the debt.

As Obama said, the debt is not a problem in the short term, it is a problem in the medium and long term.  So nothing is really going to be done, other than cosmetics, to put lipstick on a pig.

It is all a game.  Neither party means what they say.  Obama decried Bush's deficits while Cheney said Reagan Proved deficits don't matter.  Obama talked of cutting the deficit in half in four years, while ramping up a 5 trillion dollar debt, as republicans screamed about deficits that "don't matter".  Then Romney ran on putting 50,000 troops back in Iraq, which adds to the debt.  It is all phony baloney.  A scam, a fraud.

How many times has this game been played, yet people act as if they don't know the outcome.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 11:57 | 3106453 g3h
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Graham is a military establishment agent.  So easy to see his bottom line:

Keep spending.  Trade anything else.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:08 | 3106479 roadhazard
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I really hate that little suck up fag.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:40 | 3106686 wee-weed up
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And he's such a blatant attention-whore! I don't think he's ever missed a Sunday Morning TV talk show. He's on EVERY damn week!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:44 | 3106561 Catullus
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Lindsey Graham is a total piece of shit. The man bathes in blood of all the children the military industrial complex has killed all over the world. As a senator, he's been well paid to continue this disgusting warmongering and racism against Muslims. He says "Obama has won" because there's the CHANCE that the Pentagon's budget increase may be curtailed in the slightest.

Fuck you and every stupid motherfucker down in South Carolina who continues to vote for this honkey.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:58 | 3106590 WTFx10
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So how do you really feel?

Actually I love the rant, feels good don't it?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:05 | 3106597 Catullus
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Pretty good.

Anytime I think that there are some redeeming qualities to the republican party, this guy's name pops into my head and I know that it's hopeless. I'm sure every government around the world and throughout history has had a Lindsey Graham lurking around in some fashion. It's just that this particular Lindsey Graham is so openly brazen about it.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:12 | 3106608 Everyman
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So if it is OK to call Lindsey a "honkey", (and I hate that fucker), is it OK to call Sheila Jackson Lee a "nigger"?  (Which I do not use that word and do not like it.)  I mean as long as you are introducing race as a negative.  Funny how only one side gets that.  As in South Park either everything is on the table, or everything is off.


Can't have it both ways

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:27 | 3106655 Tortuga
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This ain't TV, The progressives don't know "Cain't".

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:15 | 3106772 NuYawkFrankie
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Forget "Honkey".

Try "Cracker" on for size... Graham Cracker.....

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:59 | 3107379 roadhazard
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"...South Carolina..."


Don't forget the mouth breathers voted for Gingrich. Thank God Jim DeMint called it quits. Getting out while he can still blame someone else.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 22:40 | 3108004 lakecity55
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We don't like him, either.

North Carolinians were bussed in for the last election Miss Lindsey won.

AND, in other news, RP had a ton of support here before the primary, but somehow the votes did not add up.

In the age of Die Bold, voting is a scam.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 15:22 | 3106587 NuYawkFrankie
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Re "Obama has won" - Lindsey Graham


I think what "Lindsey" might have been referring to was the game of "Hide The Soap" that he and Obumma were playing in the Congressional bath-house.

Hey "Lindsey" - yeah you Sweetie - next time, try to make it more difficult by not using "Soap On A Rope" with the rope hanging outta your butt-end. 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:08 | 3106602 Tortuga
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Hey, he may be right about the senate and then over to the house where the "weeper in Chief"  will reconcile, hypothecate, triple double secret re-hypothecate, in double secret with only his aides and the sunlamp. Done deal. the WON rules!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:09 | 3106606 bugs_
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can always count on Grahmnesty to beat his fellow foot-tapping RINO's to the sellout.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:16 | 3106622 Mad Muppet
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If any of you have any doubts whether we live under a Democracy or an Oligarchy, the latest news ought to clear things up for you. Due Process, kicked under the bus. The Constitution, gone. Privacy rights, gone. Dictator in Chief, Present!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:34 | 3106675 foxmuldar
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This is what Obama wants. We go over the cliff and watch how quickly Obama starts acting like the dictator he really is. Using executive orders to get everything he wants. 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 15:23 | 3106950 dracos_ghost
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And the people I tell this too say "He's a tool and all but he would never DO THAT". Wait for the the fiftieth shoe to drop. He's going to attach gun control to any deal.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:30 | 3106665 mvsjcl
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"Obama has won."


The people have lost.


No deal will be made.


The countdown begins.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:33 | 3106670 foxmuldar
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Graham is a winnie. At least he could keep his mouth shut instead of patting Obama on the shoulder. Reminds me of what Governor Christie did for Obama's election chances when he came close to bending over and kissing Obama's ass. 

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:43 | 3106693 unununium
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I'm guessing you meant "stunt dog," but I'm not sure. You are so far off my wit and imagery radar screen it's like plugging in to God.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 13:46 | 3106700 Pharming
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...but hats off to the president, he won," Graham said.


And with that...Senator Graham clicked his heels, gave his Nazi salute, said a silent "Sieg heil" and quietly passed gas...

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 09:02 | 3108489 tango
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This kind of response is the reason many give ZH a try only to conclude many posters are truly disturbed.  No one can simply be wrong anymore.  Instead, it's the old Bolshevik ploy - anyone not in total agreement with ZH is an evil monster who deserves a noose.  Needless to say, this kind of talk is the best way to quash any progress on any front.

Graham was simply acknowledging the obvious - Obama won the argument and he won big.  No one, especially the GOP, speaks of spending cuts.  How stating this obvious fact turns someone into an instant individual is beyond me.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:01 | 3106752 Joebloinvestor
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Get rid of the profession and start fixing the system.

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 09:06 | 3108495 tango
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Term limits are another way (like blaming the 1%, banks, Jews, etc) to excuse the American people (or the preferred "sheeple" on ZH).   We repeatedly elect the same officials whose philosophy is quite clear - debt, redistribution, central planning and to hell with the future.  Why would term limits change this?  Would the American voter suddenly become more astute?

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:07 | 3106768 Oldwood
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The only thing that matters to these people is how to cause a financial collapse while avoiding undeniable blame. It is apparent if you simply judge the results of their actions rather than their stated reasons. Financial collapse is the only way they can rest absolute control from the people. They have effectively used one crisis after another to manipulate as many as is possible into voluntarily surrendering their rights. The critical holdouts will take much more direct pressure to give in. Things like prison and starvation that will only come about through a financial collapse. Our future leaders will be those who can most effectively deflect the blame for what they most definitely created.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:24 | 3106811 shovelhead
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Linsey Graham, male prostitute.

Slurp derp.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:30 | 3106832 devo
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DOW +300-400 tomorrow.


Sun, 12/30/2012 - 15:26 | 3106869 earleflorida
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'MIC's'... the undeniable corporatism tool-- where freedom pays literally and figuratively for democratic merc[y]enary jingoism via... 'rich mans' war and poor mans' fight!!!

This is lindsey graham:   *[notice the company he keeps?]   [? just keep linking]

Ps. subcommittee on defense has been compromised by feinstein many times... yet she's never been impeached-- also, notice that all the good guys [what a fucking joke!] play good cop- bad cop, depending on who's running the casino at the time [obi kenobi?/ rockefeller and of course the great one... de`Rothschild's]

Ps2. oh... and lest i forget-- check out ms. lesley kalan [staffer/ lobbyist/ a true bureaucrat [socialist/communist?]  for northrup grumman,.et.el.] and mr.[cleanest dirty shirt in israel-- laugh!] cohen [kissingers best friend as of clinton's era?] chum[?]my relation?

note: all belong to the cartel?   nice!!!

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:22 | 3107296 bilejones
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Someone, Somewhere must have pictures of little Linda Graham diddling small boys.


Unleash them.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 14:49 | 3106871 Walt D.
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Lindsey Graham has been bought off - Obama has offered him a free backbone transplant under Obamacare.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 22:33 | 3107998 lakecity55
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No, Blackmailed.

They won't reveal anything about Miss Lindsey if he caves.

Sun, 12/30/2012 - 17:27 | 3107304 tango
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Lindsay was dead right in one sense:  We've managed to go through this entire mangled mess without the real issues - massive and rising spending on social programs - being mentioned.  That is Obama's real win - nebulous but in politics it's all appearances.

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 09:04 | 3108492 fiftybagger
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Thanks a lot Republiqueens, that's all we needed ;-)

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