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Pentagon To "Temporarily" Fire 800,000 If No Cliff Deal; Chaos To Ensue
Just in case the stakes in the final episode of the 2012 season of the "Fiscal Cliff" soap opera, and a 30 second advertising block was not selling for a record amount, here comes the Pentagon with a warning that it may fire almost 1 million civillians their services will be required but unpaid if there is no Cliff deal. From the WSJ: "Mandatory federal spending cuts designed to be prohibitively drastic will become a reality on Wednesday if negotiators remain unable to reach an agreement to avert the reductions. Illustrating the gravity of the cuts, the Pentagon plans to notify 800,000 civilian employees that they could be forced to take several weeks of unpaid leave in 2013 if a deal isn't struck, and other agencies are likely to follow suit. The cuts, which members of both parties have referred to as a "meat ax," are the product of a hastily designed 2011 law that required $110 billion in annual spending reductions over nine years to reduce the deficit. Their severity, representing close to 10% of annually appropriated spending, was intended to force Democrats and Republicans to come together on a broader package of deficit-reduction measures, which would replace the cuts. That effort failed, raising the prospect of the cuts' taking place."
It gets worse now that it turns out absolutely nobody is prepared for precisely the contingency America is now facing:
Complicating matters, the White House hasn't informed federal agencies or contractors of precisely how the cuts might be administered, leading to confusion about the potential impact. Several federal agencies referred questions about the cuts to the White House's Office of Management and Budget. OMB didn't respond to questions.
"The biggest challenge is just the uncertainty," said Steven Glass, chief financial officer at the Cleveland Clinic, a medical center and health-care system that expects to see a $22 million cutback in its Medicare payments in 2013 if the government doesn't reverse the cuts. "It's really hard to plan when you're literally looking a few days out and you don't know what Washington is going to do."
Oh well, luckily according to the latest bout of optimism spewing forth from Politico, things are fine and a deal, at least in the Senate, is imminent.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Vice President Joe Biden engaged in furious overnight negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff and made major progress toward a year-end tax deal, giving sudden hope to high-stakes talks that had been on the brink of collapse, according to sources familiar with the discussion.
McConnell and Biden, who served in the Senate together for 23 years, only started talking Sunday, after negotiations between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and McConnell sputtered.
Sources close to the talks said a deal is now more likely to come together but cautioned that obstacles remain, including how Speaker John Boehner and House Republican leaders react to any tentative agreement.
“The Leader and the VP continued their discussion late into the evening and will continue to work toward a solution. More info as it becomes available,” a McConnell spokesman said.
Then again, this wouldn't be the first time Politico has gotten absolutely everything wrong about the near and far-term outcome of the cliff. So sit back, grab the popcorn, and watch as algos proceed to respond with furious stupidity to every single unsourced, unvalidated, and untrue rumor and various other flashing red headlines.
As for those millions of people who, like the guy in the basement in Office Space, and like the New Normal Schrodinger cat, are employed and unemployed at the same time but certainly unpaid, better luck next time.
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$15 per hour to rake leaves? Where do I send my resume?
When DoD downsized several years ago, many actice duty positions were converted to civilian jobs. This reduced the longterm personel costs for the DoD (VA care, retirement). These civilan jobs vary from staff, secretaries, training, network specialists, finance, contracting, etc... Anything that would allow the warfighter to focus more on the mission. These civilians are the continuity that keeps the mission going as the active duty deploy or as the active duty rotate in or out of bases. They are not the criminals. They are just going to work serving their country. Look higher up the food chain for the criminals.
I want to wreck the food chain for the entire war ecosystem lol
"You can question the value of those employees, but not their existence."
Well, the same can be said of non-military government employees, but of course, they're not "heroes"....
Lay the fuckers off. I got leaves to rake. It's damn hard to find an illegal alien anymore. Bitches left for greener pastures.
OMFG!! NOOOOOOO!! NOT THE WAR MACHINE!! WE CAN'T CUT THAT!!
Not to worry it won't be anyone involved in "Crowd Control" that will be laid off. They go last.
Bullish. Buy more Crapple stock.
The funny thing about the entire story is that there are tens of millions of dolts who don't pay attention to this bullcrap and when they open up their paychecks in about 4 weeks, they will be mad at the reduction in pay and have no clue as to how this happened. Hilarity will truly ensue.
please remind me again... what do those people at the pentagon do?
fly drones you say?
read blogs on the internet you say?
...
okay....
I like playing flight sims also and I spend about 4 hour reading stuff on the internet also!
WHY DIDN'T I GET PAID FOR THAT?!?!?
Yes, they fly drones. There is also a guy with squinty eyes in an air-conditioned trailer with 100 antennas on top of it who looks at the images sent back from those drones to figure out what the hell they're looking at.
They definitely do NOT read internet blogs while working in said trailer.
Ask me how I know that someday.
"They definitely do NOT read internet blogs while working in said trailer."
And they don't "protect" us, either. So whatever...
THEY don't. But another 99 people in the chain leading up to that one guy flying the drone are surfing the web.
They spy on you. What the hell else does anyone do in government anymore?
View Porn?
Sweet "Office Space" reference!
Yeaaahhhhh.... we're going to need this space... to put boxes in and stuff... soooo... eehhh.. you.ll have to move....
and this stapler.... we'll need it as well....
Cut social security, and not one mention of cutting or freezing SNAP.... Social Security is an entitlement and Welfare is a right? This country deserves everything it's going to get.
Snap is for the new ethnic citizen, SS is mostly white folk - Get the picture.
I get the bill and I am starting to get the picture.....
Hmmm..million people working for free...defending the very same liars and crooks that swore to protect the ever so castrated constitution?.....
That will work..
Close up Northern Virginia and half the State of Maryland.
...oh and lets not forget the very same lying criminals, just got a raise!
do tou really think their job is easy?
they need to fuck at least 2 assistants a day plus the people who voted for them....
they never actually go to the place where the people voted for them unless it's election time. so I can imagine they get homesick from time to time...
they constantly need to take the elevators... so they can spit on the people walking below them...
and they pay is just their pay he!
They need to constantly bend over to pick up their lobbyist friends brown enveloppes and stuff...
Make decisions like how many people need to be kicked out of statistics, write their names under bills they never read,....
it's a hard job.
While the propaganda is going on :
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/19/north-korea-emp-attack-c...
PRY: North Korea EMP attack could destroy U.S. — nowNorth Korea now has an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to the United States, as demonstrated by their successful launch and orbiting of a satellite on Dec. 12. Certain poorly informed pundits among the chattering classes reassure us that North Korea is still years away from being able to miniaturize warheads for missile delivery, and from developing sufficiently accurate missiles to pose a serious nuclear threat to the United States. Philip Yun, director of San Francisco’s Ploughshares Fund, a nuclear disarmament group, reportedly said, “The real threat from the launch was an overreaction that would lead to more defense spending on unnecessary systems. The sky is not falling. We shouldn’t be panicked.”
In fact, North Korea is a mortal nuclear threat to the United States— right now.
Be scared sheeple!!The new "Red Dawn"? Bring on the "Year of the Comet".
Just watched old Red Dawn w my Russian wife. Its pretty funny how cool i thought it was at the time and how bad it is now.
The only cool part was the Hind helicopters.
Im afraid to watch Top Gun now....
That's bs. Don't you need to detonate a nuclear warhead to get the EMP burst?
LOL!
NK and ICBM's. Whatever...Deploy the goats with bottle rocket systems. Man the spears with dynamite! go go go go!! NK is working it's way backwards to feudalism, working...has pardon.
I've just been reading this article - "Out of Desperation,North Korean Women Become Breadwinners"
http://www.npr.org/2012/12/28/168193827/out-of-desperation-north-korean-...
North Korean state-run industries are not paying workers:
"If you don't go to work, you go to prison," one male interviewee tells NPR. The one escape is a system where some men, like Mrs. Kim's husband, pay between 20 to 30 times their tiny monthly salary not to work."
You would think that being suspended without pay or "temporarily fired" was bad enough, but it could be much worse. It is already happening around the world.
In Spain and Greece, public officials work merely for the chance to still collect that pension; the idea of a living wage has long since passed (free will sark-or-not choice).
American response: "Why they call the .223 (5.56) the "Meat Ax"" (and yes, this is fair game to the gun crowd here for them to mock).
MySpace flashback: Meat Axe Two Whiffs and your Greedy
Aurora, this is a myth. One of many currently going around
I know, I know, you have it from ZeroHedge,
for example http://www.zerohedge.com/news/its-official-greece-unveils-negative-salary
and yet, it's an EuroMyth
I'm aware of that; thus the "snark-or-not"; I was poking fun at the usual Euro-bashing response raised whenever public servants & paycuts in the EU are mentioned. (And, although it's usually ignored, the military are all in the public sector, arguably even the 'private contractors' as well).
A bit meta for the morning, perhaps - look at the tone of the other two videos, however, to get the gestalt of the post.
[translation: I'm aware that the issues are complex, but this thread really isn't going to rise above crude humour, at a guess. Nor is this "threat of 800,000 job losses" being used as anything but ammunition against the GOP 'traditional base', if we forget who the military actually sent the majority of their dollars to for the elections. Hint: He's popular around here]
tldr;
This 800k job loss is more kabuki, and doesn't deserve a serious answer.
this is not a myth this is very real :
Grèce: un ex-ministre socialiste menacé de poursuites pénales
Only the tip of the corruption iceberg.
And the MIC is the corrupted pinnacle of crony government; now head to head with finance and oil.
come on, we are still coddling our corrupt officials in europe
not like our American cousins who are torturing poor Corzine this very moment
stop Corzine's waterboarding - FREE CORZINE!
Yes, we're all aware of the rampant nepotism / corruption.
Prime Minister Antonis Samaras, leader of the New Democracy Conservative party, has asked the Justice Ministry to draw up a bill that would prevent Members of Parliament from hiring their spouses or other relatives as employees... That comes on the heels of news that one of his deputies, Vyron Polydoras, had hired his daughter and a few days after Panos Kammenos, the leader of the right-wing Independent Greeks, admitted that he had hired his cousin. Another New Democracy MP, Yiannis Tragakis, also hired a relative to work in his parliamentary offices.[source] [1]
Same thing all over - from UK MPs employing their families, to the USA and internships and so on and so forth, even all the way down into "saintly" Iceland.
"He has just published a new book, ‘Þræðir valdsins: Kunningjaveldi, aðstöðubrask og hrun Íslands’ (“Threads Of Power: Nepotism, abused positions and Iceland’s collapse”), which covers a subject many Icelanders are all too familiar with: the culture of nepotism, cronyism and corruption in Iceland." [source]
If there's one thing that all ZH readers can probably agree upon is that Government (and sometimes in business as well) revolves around corruption. We do all differ in our solutions, however.
[1] Comment: this will hardly stem the abuses; you'll just get a more American solution, with people horse-trading favours to each other's relatives. The old system of sending your sons to another Noble's house to be mentored has never died.
Just out of interest folks.
What in the fuck is the pentagon doing with 800,000 people more than it needs?
Am I missing something here? If it can lay off 800,000 folk for a time why does it need them in the fucking first place?
The mind is boggling here friends???
What a colosal waste of money-printed-from-thin-air.
Remember that missing $2.3 trillion?
Those 800,000 are the accountants.
Yea
The $2.3 trillion that Donald Fucksfield announced as missing 1 day before 9/11 and before all the records were destroyed during 9/11
"Remember that missing $2.3 trillion?"
No, I don't. Completly forgot about that when those evil muslims attacked us on 9/11. The ONLY thing important now is bombing brown people.
The 800,000 workers are across the entire DoD, not soley workers in the Pentagon.
"Illustrating the gravity of the cuts, the Pentagon plans to notify 800,000 civilian employees that they could be forced to take several weeks of unpaid leave in 2013 if a deal isn't struck, and other agencies are likely to follow suit."
It's not like civilian contractors live paycheck to paycheck. This proposes to be just an unscheduled(?) vacation while still accruing the beni's.
Smoke and mirrors.
The Pentagon can't function without their bloated trillion dollar budgets......not only did that organization completely drop the ball on 9/11 they couldn't even protect a US ambassador in a third world shithole. Hell we'd have better chances hiring the fucking girl scouts to protect this country. I say bring it on.........The Pentagon and most of the goon squad Americans that work within that organization might finally wake up out of their braindead stupor. The FDA will get a nice big fat $300 billion dollar budget cut if we go over the fiscal cliff.........BRING IT THE F'K ON!!!!!! Talk about an utterly corrupt organization......they can keep cheap overseas generic blood pressure medication out of the hands of geriatrics but they can't do shit about all the toxic chinese crap flooding in from China killing us all! Or worse the pill happy feely futz narcotic dealers called doctors in South FL...making millions shuffling their third world pain clinics in and out of cities destroying communities. It doesn't take a 2 hour special with Soonjay Dipshit to realize how corrupt the FDA is.
Think of it this way.
Whoever is left over from the cuts are guilty. Take names for later reference.
It would be interesting to catalog which parts of the wealth transfer operation were subject to this cliff. SS and Medicare are untouched, while extended unemployment will be cut off immediately. What's the impact to food stamps? Obamaphones? Might help produce a riot gauge.
The way they are pushing the futures, they don't have anything to worry about, the 'market' will be up 300 at the end of the day
The US is a fat moron person who wants to lose weight by eating more. Hey America, you're fucking broke. Stop spending NOW. You don't have that money anyway.
But, but but... Biden said you have to spend money to save the US from going bankrupt
No.....the US is a day lazy alimony sucking anorexic vegan house wife who's brain can't f'ing function because she's scared of "fat" and "redmeat".
Sometimes you have to wait for a friend to drink themselves to passing out to get them into bed.
Fcuk the FASB Committee Members who changed the accounting rules in April 2009.
We should have had the collapse then.
And would have started the recovery by now.
Each and everyone of them needs to have basic accountin standards shoved up their backsides and then face the firing squad
Do you know of any reasonably reliable estimates of solvency of banks today using the old rules for asset valuation?
The banksters have self-dealt themselves another few hundred billion in boguses over the past four years under the pretense of solvency, but is anybody tracking where things really stand? Or is the Fed's levitation of the unreal economy so complete that it can't even be reasonably estimated any more?
While a Marine tells Feinstein to shove her gun control bill up her stinking wazoo :
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-902515
No ma'am.
Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government's right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma'am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.
I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.
I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.
I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.
We, the people, deserve better than you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012
Fuck yeah.
Please......most Marines get their 'fing marching orders from ugly dikes like Feinstein. If he wants to actually make a difference he should quit fighting for the corrupt overlords that write his paycheck. Talk about some of the most braindead sleep walkers in the country...it's your average combat soldier. The top military brass are as corrupt or more so than our politicians. I mean talk about a revolving door......
And how the hell can anyone wear the uniform nowadays with losers like Patreaus wearing the uniform......seriously? That guy can send young men off to die into battle, take on the Taliban, Al-CIADa in far corners of the world.....yet manages to fall for the oldest trick in the book......PUSSY? Looking at his hag ugly wife Patreaus never should have made it through boot camp if he was going to flounder all over a woman. Talk about a f'ing liability. That guy is the Tiger Woods of the military. No matter how much money you make or how many stripes you wear or wars youv'e been through......You'll always be a fucking nerd who was ruined by a woman!
Seriously, do these "marines" ever stop to think that the Feinsteins of the world are no different than the McCain's of the world? My question is why the idiots in AZ and CA keep re-electing these morons into office!!!
Soldiers are brainwashed but a big portion of them still follow the constitution... and will tell the US government to go to hell if they start confiscating guns.
But yeah, the army should go on strike till all the illegal wars end.
Most of them don't know what the Constitution says.
will they fire the Tampa fillies and Petraeus's GF?
I'm sure the moles stay on and the honest folk get burned.
The cum dumpster from West Point?
Theres always a job for cum dumpsters...
social security is a tax. the supreme court said so. scamed again
This will definitely free up some parking spaces.
The cliff is meaningless. Wait for the next stimulus so we can pay again for shovel ready jobs to rebuild roads and bridges. FORWARD !
I'm I reading this that the entire civilian military work force is being notified of layoffs but that so as not to spoil xmas credit card shopping they did not release how or who will be getting the ax ? With xmas over all that's left is to step off the cliff and blame the other guy for the cuts that will be coming and holding out of course until they can close the accounting books on 2012 kinda thing ?
800,000? That's a lot of paper that won't get shuffled...
And drinking fountains that dont get refilled.
Staples left unsorted...
Total chaos.
800,000 is a good start. As far as the "chaos to ensue" I'm sure that the chaos suits the community organizer -n- chief just fine.
"The cuts, which members of both parties have referred to as a "meat ax," are the product of a hastily designed 2011 law that required $110 billion in annual spending reductions over nine years to reduce the deficit."
Idiots believe $110 billion over 9 years is going to mean something. Obviously you've not seen the latest defciit tally for November. Some fuckheads want to believe it's all the American War Machine, if we can just stop it, everything will be alright. They've not noticed the $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities portion of the balance sheet.
The Ron Paul circle jerk will only get you so far, ladies.
Sorry dude, not getting the Ron Paul connection here? Seems to me there's been no LOUDER voice WARNING of the perils inherent in $100+ trillion in unfunded liabilities? Even so, you must admit that spending $1 trillion annually to maintain bases in OTHER countries seems a bit.....odd, wouldn't you say?
Temporarily my ass. Can them for good. The Federal economic war racket is way too fucking large and over priced.
Can them today, not tomorrow, not in 6 months - today.
People not needed.
With so many of the public workers driving top-end $50,000 autos you can visualize the waste.
The problem is the way they're going about cutting.
It makes sense to cut, but they should have a solid plan and inform companies along the way - the way they're going about it now, ALL businesses related to potential cuts are worried and won't hire people due to the uncertainty... just spread the cuts out over time and the economy can take it
The Pentagon doesn't have nearly enough staff or resources to adequately plan for absorbing a potential budget cut like this. Not in the tiny 15-month timeframe they were given, anyway. Plus, they have insufficient data to conduct a thorough cost/benefit analysis of their various options.
We need at least a 200,000-accountant "surge" at the Pentagon and a blue-ribbon fact finding commission to address this crisis properly. And it will take a minimum of 12 months to come up with preliminary proposals for Congress to consider.
/s
All these Gubmint jackasses actually believe what they do is important, commendable, good, critical for the well-being of the USA. The world, even!!
So twisted.
Remember guys, the first American revolution was about taxation without representation... history repeats!!
And the colonialists were considered "terrorists" as well.
History will repeat when you keyboard warriors get off your ass and do something about it.
Majority of "jobs" are unnecessary, non essential and often counter productive.
To add insult to injury 60% of the US econony is subsidized in some form or another.
No problem for the 800,000 soon-to-be unemployed. I hear Homeland Security has as many positions open for Statist Thug.
If you read the article, you'd see that no-one is being fired. It says that 800,000 civilian workers MAY be required to take some time off without pay, not lose their jobs. Think about how much money could be saved if they all went to a four day week.
They have to prepare for the purges that inevitably occur right after the revolution.
Why are there 800,000 civilians in the "Military" to begin with? Seems like a waste right from the start. No wonder the military has become so politicized.
truth, friend
What I want to know is why it takes 100k people to run the U.S. Treasury...
yes while the cliff approach is regretable it maybe the most responsible and bipartison step in last 20 years - really this is what the people voted for complete gridlock and collapse the people have mandated incomptence and our government is up to the task
It's pretty sad when merely cutting the rate of increase in spending is truly "the most responsible and bipartisan step in the last twenty years". Is letting off the gas a little when approaching a known hairpin turn at maximum velocity considered responsible? I'd call it a trillion dollars short and a decade late.
true and really i think a slow death like japan may be far worse result than a rapid unplanned collapse - we may become trapped in a long term malaise
pk and bb aré akin to Thelma and Louise - with a touch of Deliverance
There are even more defense and aerospace workers/contractors than there are civil servants. The acquisitions, maintenance, and logistics tail of mechanized forces is huge. Most of the equipment is too complicated for grunts to fix.
2.9M active and reserve military members
1.6M executive department civil servants (0.8M DoD + VA 2007)
1.1M aerospace and defense workers
I dream of a time when we are not the Policemen of the world. I dream of a time when we bring every service man and woman home to take care of US. How many killer drones, nuclear warheads, cool new planes and better guns do we need to protect US? Let those nations who want to kill and ruin their countries just do it. Let them take care of their own. We cannot do it any longer.
We do not have the desire, we do not have the funds to continue. We need to stop being the killers of the world. We need to Come Home. Our defense spending needs to contract by at least half. It will be enough for US> Let the rest of the world police the planet. It is time to bring peace to our shores. We have so many issues. No, it is way past time.
Happy New Year to all mankind and especially to those of us at Zero Hedge. Maybe, maybe, some day.......
Apt sentiment I suppose, if policing the world is what the military really is about. My guess is that some corporate banking giants monetary interests is more appropriate.
Never-the-less, a Happy New Year to you and yours and the lot of us.
err, dude, your boys are in those countries neither to protect humanity nor to spread democracy but to leech and profit. get your facts straight.
Just write up a bill to fund the pentagon via ctrl-p. What the fuck is the difference anyways?
empire sucking itself down with unbearable army expenditures is how all fallen empires ended through out history
Meanwhile, the Security State continues unabated in preparation for the real war to come when the people come to realize they've already lost the War of the Banksters against the rest of us:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/28/americas-deceptive-2012-fiscal-cliff/
All this hand wringing over $110 billion in annual cuts?!
We need to cut $1.5 TRILLION annually!!!
Fuck me
Precisely.
Ben Bernanke at the Fed is conjouring up $85B from thin air every month. The $110B "meat axe" defense cuts are 1 1/2 months of printing.
The "unaffordable" $30B extended unemployment benefits are 11 days of printing.
Nobody in Congress or the press ever mentions this. Voters can't be expected to do math on their own.
The unit of account is no longer the dollar but the POMO
$110B over 9 years? About $12B / yr they're haggling over when the deficit is 130 times larger?
No $ to pay 800k fairly well paid employees. Biggest employer in US: Walmart whom almost all employees pay little tax because of poverty status.
Courthouse here in town............looks like it should be on display at the Smithsonian as a piece of artwork. All of the houses around it: Slum, falling down.
I think it's safe to say they've sucked us dry. Of course they still have that damn printing machine and digital zero replicator.
800,000 to me means we can easily get by with that many less. What I also find interesting is that not ONE of the over two hundred American military bases around the world can be shut down to save money instead of American jobs at home.
How smart of the military to put the pressure on at home.
Also never addressed is the "double dipping" of Gov. monetary benefits to military retires.
stupe
O walks away puts the loudmouth drunk in charge(or dementia inc), and he bargains w/McConnell,UP's the ante to $450,000!!!!!!!!!.
If O insists on having control of all (Debt ceiling)spending GOP should have walked long ago, if they give in to that, may as well go home, no need for them anymore AT all.
Wonder if this shows up in the unemployment stats?
Let's see if we could get by with 100 fewer F-22s over the next 9 years....well there's your $110B. BUt if did that:
1. S. Vietman would fall to the Commies
2. Then it would be the Phillipines
3. Then Austrailia
4. India, all Africa, S. America !!!!!! OMG!
GOTTA HAVE THOSE PLANES.
Services will probably be the same after the 800,000 fat is shaved off
Falling Down... on a grand scale.
Actually, everything is on the chopping block except for support of ongoing combat operations.
I think.
Actually, I am going to have a lot of friends stranded overseas, with no pay, and no way home.
Just like that novel, Patriots.
With no pay, our forces will maybe have to stand down, leaving the US ripe for assault. Almost as if there were a cunning plan, Blackadder.
This is really confusing.
Lets not forget that Obama told them not to warn. Obama is going to be facing lawsuits for not giving 60 day notice.
800,000 fired from the gubbment? Now that's something to celebrate!
We spend nearly $70 billion a year on Foreign Financial Aid.
We give China 10 million every year
Republicans probably let this go over the cliff because of one issue:
2M unemployed fall off the dole next week. Unemployment rate goes down to 6.5%. Ben has to stop buying...game over.
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Doit sukkahz
Riiiiide your pony
Now
Shoot, Shoot Shoot
Since it would be a disaster to let those 800,000 be laid off then by any sense of logic it would be a better deal to hire 800,000 more instead. /sarc
The pic associated with this post says it ALL! Deer-in-the-headlights, obese, clueless, unaccountable, overpaid, unproductive seat warming takers on the taxpayer dole. FUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bernanke calls for ZH to be shut down: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=458516190871911&set=a.41953758476...
Tea Party-Crashers about to set us on the right course. A compromise will not pass the house, Boehner is out. Likely got some revenge and things done his way when he booted those senators off the committees, but he was just cashing out on his dwindling vestiges of power.
"The cuts, which members of both parties have referred to as a "meat ax," are the product of a hastily designed 2011 law that required $110 billion in annual spending reductions over nine years to reduce the deficit."
That's a joke right? It's going to take a lot more cuts than that. They sound like they are not seriously contemplating REALLY permanently firing them but rather asking them to keep working until they get what they want, and they're afraid to put their threat in stronger terms for fear employees won't show up.
Great...!!!!!
Maybe I will see some sun.
These Chemtrail spraying terrorist need to go anyways.
Hey eveyone,start telling and SHOWING ,your friends and family about CHEMTRAIL spraying and tell them about HAARP, and Own the Weather in 2025,thingy the USA Military has on the go...
Wake them up......
Time is now,Aint seen the sun in months now.
Fuck you to anyone spraying me...!!!
...........FUCK OFF...!!!
The Pentagon claims that it employs 23,000 employees:
http://pentagon.osd.mil/facts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon
So how could they "fire" 800,000 people?!?
Rounding errors?