Guest Post: On New York Times Op Ed: "Let’s Give Up on the Constitution"

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

This New York Times Op Ed by Louis Michael Seidman, a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University, is one of the most absurd and dangerous articles I have read in a very long time. This guy’s incredible conclusion is that it is the Constitution of the United States itself that is causing all that ails the nation at this time.  Not once did I read about the Federal Reserve, or the “war on terror,” or the banker bailouts, or the complete destruction of the rule of law in recent years.  Nope, none of that.  Instead, this scholar’s conclusion is that the founding document, which created the fertile breeding ground for freedom and free markets and led to tens of millions of people to flee to from all corners of the globe, is the problem.

I suppose someone failed to remind Mr. Seidman that the oath of office for the military and those that hold political office continues to be:

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

As I have said for years, a key part of the macro agenda of the corrupt elite has been and continues to be the destruction of the U.S. Constitution.  While the Bill of Rights is already being dismantled behind the scenes, Mr. Seidman is part of the effort to “sell this”to the sheeple  as I noted in my article: Here We Go…Slate Magazine Bashes the First Amendment.  I expect more of this type of propaganda going forward.

From the New York Times:

As the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.


This is not to say that we should disobey all constitutional commands. Freedom of speech and religion, equal protection of the laws and protections against governmental deprivation of life, liberty or property are important, whether or not they are in the Constitution. We should continue to follow those requirements out of respect, not obligation.

The above paragraph is important for two reasons.  First, he picks and chooses what part of the Constitution he agrees with and then says those things are good and should remain.  More disturbingly, he then says we should defend freedom based on “respect not obligation.”  This is insane.  The reason the Bill of Rights exists is to enshrine the protection of civil rights under the law so that an authoritarian government cannot trample them.  Do you really expect government to protect civil rights out of “respect” if they are not obligated to by law?  Not a chance.  Then he concludes with:

But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance.

Full Op Ed here.

Please pass this on to every freedom loving American you know.

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Jim in MN's picture

A few starting points:

1.  Note in all meetings and discussions involving business or finanacial planning that corruption is taking at least 1% off of GDP growth, and ensuring zero real returns on all major asset classes for the forseeable future.  Back up with good articles and citations such as Bill Gross (PIMCO), etc.


2.  Boycott the crap out of all DC/NY/TBTF institutions you can.  That means using local banks and credit unions.  Try to get your local churches, small businesses, friends and town government to do the same.


3.  Tell the truth.  Simply and at times with humor.


4.  Voting and politics are vile these days but it's worth trying to keep them viable.  Just ask about corruption a lot.


5.  If anyone cares, we should also close the NY offices of the Treasury and Federal Reserve, ban all contact between TARP recipients and any government/elected official, impose a lifetime ban on any TARP recipient employees or paid consultants/lawyers working in government, raid all HQ offices of TARP recipients, "temporarily" jail their executives, and mirror their hard drives on the Internet for public examination.  But, no one cares about actual policy.

autonomos's picture

Election is not democratic

InvalidID's picture


 I hope LOUIS MICHAEL SEIDMAN chokes to death on hooker spit.

Lin S's picture

Seidman choking to death on a big black penis would be funnier, I think.

A Lunatic's picture

Especially if the owner of said penis was in fact named George Washington. Oh the irony........

Lin S's picture

Yes, by all means, let's give up on the Rule of Law.  We'll outlaw freedom of speech first. 

On second thought, what say we keep the Constitution and just HANG this treasonous motherfucker, instead?

newengland's picture

I vote for the second option, but apparently, it is bad manners to kill the crypto-communist profiteers...err, professors... although their ideas kill anyone with impunity.

lakecity55's picture

It will soon be time to prosecute these lizards.

Patience, Patriots.

We may be able to arrest this guy before he flees to Cuba.

His statements are open sedition against the United States.

Dr. Engali's picture

Most of the sheeple don't know what the constitution is an how it protects them. The majority that do know what the document is don't have a clue what's inside of it. To them it's like the bible is to most Christians..... " I know it's important but I'm too lazy to read what's in it".

Random's picture

The constitution thing is a trap imho, on one hand only the US citizens, the residents or the legal aliens benefit from its protection and on the other hand invoking the constitution means that you recognize yourself as a trustee or franchise of the United States Of America corporation (headquartered in District of Columbia that poses as the olden US), as a property, that inherently has no rights. In this light, in this day and age (opposed to the intended Constitution of free men) you are relinquishing ALL your rights as a free human being by being under the "protection of the Constitution" accepting its privileges (that can be revoked at any time, without requiring a reason for doing so).

I might be way off though.

Theos's picture

Jesus fucking christ.

Grinder74's picture

Really?  How about you show a little diversity and use some other religions' deities instead.

Mohammed Fucking Prophet.

Freewheelin Franklin's picture

"The Constitution has no inherent authority or obligation. It has no authority or obligation at all, unless as a contract between man and man. And it does not so much as even purport to be a contract between persons now existing. It purports, at most, to be only a contract between persons living eighty years ago. And it can be supposed to have been a contract then only between persons who had already come to years of discretion, so as to be competent to make reasonable and obligatory contracts. Furthermore, we know, historically, that only a small portion even of the people then existing were consulted on the subject, or asked, or permitted to express either their consent or dissent in any formal manner. Those persons, if any, who did give their consent formally, are all dead now. Most of them have been dead forty, fifty, sixty, or seventy years. And the constitution, so far as it was their contract, died with them. They had no natural power or right to make it obligatory upon their children. It is not only plainly impossible, in the nature of things, that they could bind their posterity, but they did not even attempt to bind them. That is to say, the instrument does not purport to be an agreement between any body but “the people” then existing; nor does it, either expressly or impliedly, assert any right, power, or disposition, on their part, to bind anybody but themselves.

Freewheelin Franklin's picture

The ostensible supporters of the Constitution, like the ostensible supporters of most other governments, are made up of three classes, viz.:

1. Knaves, a numerous and active class, who see in the government an instrument which they can use for their own aggrandizement or wealth.

2. Dupes – a large class, no doubt – each of whom, because he is allowed one voice out of millions in deciding what he may do with his own person and his own property, and because he is permitted to have the same voice in robbing, enslaving, and murdering others, that others have in robbing, enslaving, and murdering himself, is stupid enough to imagine that he is a “free man,” a “sovereign”; that this is “a free government”; “a government of equal rights,” “the best government on earth,”2 and such like absurdities.

3. A class who have some appreciation of the evils of government, but either do not see how to get rid of them, or do not choose to so far sacrifice their private interests as to give themselves seriously and earnestly to the work of making a change.

newengland's picture

4. My family and our community since the 17th century.

You are a nihilist, Lord Haw Haw.

It is time for new immigrants since WWI to speak up for why they fled to the USA, the Constitution and Declaration of Independence - away from the hateful regimes abroad: the monarchists, oligarchs, communists, socialists, feudalists who still exist, aided by wage slaves like you, and the profiteer professor Siedman, the 'educated fool' and 'useful idiot' as Lenin would say.

Oldwood's picture

So there is no law I am bound to other than those I have personally signed and agreed to? Cool, cause I ain't signed shit! I'm free!

Ghordius's picture

this means that the Luisiana Purchase is null and void because both president Jefferson, Napoleon and all the others living in 1804 are dead, so a quarter of the USA rightfully belongs to France, eh? ;-)

interestingly, Jefferson had to defend the constitutionality of the deal, as well as it's place among other treaties

oh, and Alaska belongs to Russia, of course, because nobody that was present at the Russo-American Treaty of 1824 is still living

just sayin' - funny legal opinions coming from those guys

Smuckers's picture

Finally, maybe a good reason to cue the drones on his ass.  Out of respect, of course.



nmewn's picture

Monarchist, oligarch, statist, quack...teaching kids constitutional law.

Savyindallas's picture

When I was in law school at Catholic University 27 years ago, Georgetown law School was 80% Jewish. God knows what it is today. Anyone from Georgetown should certainly not be seen as reflecting the views of the Jesuits or Catholics-not that I have any respect for the Jesuits or catholics in general.   

MFLTucson's picture

Why don't we throw this fuckin Jew the hell out of the country or move his sorry ass to China? 

Ghordius's picture

tsk, tsk, what language... why? because he is under the protection of the constitution and laws of the US

Savyindallas's picture

Jewish name, and Georgeton Law is almost entrierly Jewish   - so he's almost certainly a Jew. There are lot's of good Jews, but there sure are a lot of bad ones who subvert all that uniquely distinctive about the American culture  -they have been actively working to subvert and destroy this culture since the early 20th century. That's not conspiracy or anti-semitism  -it's fact. Of course the orther internationalists like the Rockefellers have been working hand in hand with them. Can't say the subversion of all that we know as American is a Jewish conspiracy. Jews clearly are the front men for their dirty works.

MFLTucson's picture

And that is because history has proven the TRIBE to be sewer rats. 

F. Bastiat's picture

It seems that over 90% of the Marxists are Jews. That is most certainly not a good reputation to have.

Twodogs's picture

Which rear end of yours did you pull that figure from?

F. Bastiat's picture

Well, let's name some names: Cass Sunstein, Karl Marx, Seidman, Andrew Stern, Gyorgy Schwartz, Joseph Schwartz, Fox-Piven, Stephen Lerner, Peter Orszag, and Bill Ayers. 

That's nine Jews out of ten well-known marxists.

Obviously, the converse doesn't apply.

Twodogs's picture

Dude, you're a little short on the marxists front.  You could get that it one room in any university in the western world.  Half of the Australian government are marxists, and i doubt any of them are jewish.  Get a grip!

WTFx10's picture

But their Bankers are

MFLTucson's picture

What difference would it make; the fact is accurate and more likely 95% not 90%. Your people have been the most hated in the world, any explanation as to why?  Your mouth or someone’s rear end, same difference to me!

Tsunami Wave's picture

I see he's collaberated on books with Cass Sunstein, Geoffrey Stone, and a bunch of other liberal douches that want to destroy the constitution.  Man.. this is just fucking CRAZY


sun tzu's picture

The scary part is that those inbred chimps are in power. Hopefully enough of the military and police will refuse to obey their orders when the time comes

Tsunami Wave's picture

I think there will be an inevitable cultural civil war in this country.. I don't know about a real one.. but one sort-of experienced in England in relation to their problems with the IRA minus the car and other bombings.  People will be mad as hell.. and it's these fucking disgusting PRICKS have NO BUSINESS saying we should get rid of the most influential document in this history of the world. If they wanted, why the hell don't they move to another country that fits their political beliefs.


This utterly useless and completely disgusting piece of shit, and his other minions not only have no appreciation or capability of understanding just what this document gave us when it was introduced in a world of kings, shoguns, tsars, sultans, and other completely autocratical leaders.... whom by the way their subjects had NO property rights, total freedom to start and run businesses, pass inheritances on to their family members, etc (Yeah, revolutionary, I know)... but they want to fucking destroy this country! Just UNREAL.

ebworthen's picture

Some people deserve denunciation, some a brow beating, some a flogging, and some just need hanging.

I'll leave it up to the mob what to do with sods like this guy.

XitSam's picture

I vote for banishment. Seems appropriate.

devo's picture

Any foreigners have a spare couch??

XitSam's picture

Simon Black thinks Chile is a good idea. And Doug Casey will be glad to sell you a home site in Salta, Argentina.

devo's picture

That all sounds very complex. I'd rather just have a couch or chair in someone's woodshed.

I'm pretty good with markets, but turn into a Bernanke-level-idiot when it comes to moving out of the country.

XitSam's picture

I agree, I'll be staying. I will soon have a (drafty) woodshed, feel free to drop by.

Element's picture

not letting that on the rug, might be useful in a crab pot.

Blazed's picture

Simply another dual "citizen" rat!

MFLTucson's picture

If not for the US Constitution this piece of shit paper would not have been printed.  Does this Cock Sucker think the Chinese Government or Mr. Puttin would like him telling the people to disobey there governing documents or government?

piceridu's picture

I guess for today, let's not feel obligated by the First Amendment...Where's the nearest lamp post?

XitSam's picture

The TSA Out Of Our Pants guy had a response too.

newengland's picture

The profiteers...err professors of law...  agree with fascist ideas, and CONgress - contrary to the Constitution.

However, implementing their cowardly ways will be a different matter when push comes to shove.

Element's picture

Hmm ... "Wednesday" ... that would be last Wednesday, the 26th of December 2012.

Seasons Greetings!


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sgorem's picture

just fuck it all.